ClimateGate: Both sides of the pond demand probes into data manipulation scandal
Yeah, you better pray.
I blogged the ClimateGate scandal last week. It keeps going — and growing. There are calls on both sides of the pond for an investigation into data manipulation. A former British lord is demanding an independent inquiry:
This morning Lord Lawson, who has reinvented himself as a prominent climate change sceptic since leaving front line politics, demanded that the apparent deception be fully investigated.
He claimed that the credibility of the university’s world-renowned Climatic Research Unit – and British science – were under threat. “They should set up a public inquiry under someone who is totally respected and get to the truth,” he told the BBC Radio Four Today programme. “If there’s an explanation for what’s going on they can make that explanation.”Around 1,000 emails and 3,000 documents were stolen from UEA computers by hackers last week and uploaded on to a Russian server before circulating on websites run by climate change sceptics. Some of the correspondence indicates that the manipulation of data was widespread among global warming researchers.
One of the emails under scrutiny, written by Phil Jones, the centre’s director, in 1999, reads: “I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature [the science journal] trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie, from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.” Prof Jones has insisted that he used the word “trick” to mean a “clever thing to do”, rather than to indicate deception. He has denied manipulating data.
Here in the U.S., GOP Sen. Jim Inhofe — a longtime watchdog over the global warming mob — has also called for a probe.
Calling corruptocrat eco-czar Carol Browner! She knows all about avoiding sunlight (“Put nothing in writing…ever”) and evading data disclosure.
John Hinderaker at Powerline delves into the damning e-mails here and here.
Michael Goldfarb shines light on the blabbermouth NYTimes’ newfound reluctance to discuss sensitive information.
And such selective blabbermouths they are.
Danny Glover has more on NYT climate change spinner Andrew Revkin.
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Why are liberals so disappointed to discover the world is NOT ending and we won’t all die of heat stroke?
*Cue Halleluja Chorus* . . .
Did anyone see that FOP on Fox News this a.m., spinning and freaking out about this? He’s a CEO of an Eco-firm, supposedly “objective”, who agrees we should have debate but really just for show because this is all settled now, isn’t it?
Unbelievable. It’s a religion. Call it out.
I’m sorry to ask but how do you spell “schadenfreude”?
The Tiems had no problem linking to illegally hacked Sara Palin emails and family photos now did they…
shocked!
I have no doubt this will lead to an in in-depth investigation with calls for head to roll (of the hackers, that is.)
It would probably be too much to expect these frauds to resign their posts since they probably will never get hired to another cushy government science job again.
That’s what’s so great about living off the public trough. Never ending swill.
“I was for global warming before I was against it.” John Kerry
Hand, cookie jar……..
Beautiful!!
Piltdown Man-made warming.
This will get swept under the carpet just like everything else they don’t want you to know. The media is not/will not put any effort into it and it will die a quiet, happy death.
“It’s such a personal thing. They’re my cashmere sweaters. I’ll do what I want with them. … People say, ‘You didn’t throw your cashmere sweaters away.’ Who said I had to? And why should I? It’s my business. I did not want to throw my cashmere sweaters away.”
(Not an actual quotation – but most of you will recognise the bulk of the quote…
Excellent!
This will go nowhere. The libs and their global warming hogwash are neck deep in this charade. They will never admit they were wrong, ever. They will spin, and chastise, and accuse, and lie until their dying breath.
Not to mention they are making a ton of money creating “green” businesses, getting investors and tax dollars to create a product that doesn’t work and few will buy. The money is flowing into these green companies. They will never let that stop either. Al Gore is raking in money hand over fist. They will continue the deception until we dry up the money they are making to produce nothing viable.
Perhaps they are thinking if they lie long enough, one of these green businesses will produce a viable alternative of more energy for less cost. While that may be possible, they have to lie today to possibly get soemthing to work in the future.
I love the link to the NYT’s article:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/11/nytimes_we_wont_publish_statem.asp
The NYT says it wont publish the emails because they werent intended for the public eye. ROFLMFAO!!!! But they WILL publish secrets that endanger national security and the lives of American troops!!! I wouldnt wipe my a** with the treason manifesto of record; it would be an insult to my rump.
Errah, who knew that all the Eco-jobs Obama promised were for the lawyers to defend their clients and their fraudulent claims of 80% efficiencies they will get by going green on buildings.
Or try this for a quote:
–Everyone was for me before they were against me.–
Errah can’t stop thinking of Ren & Stimpy when I scroll past the pictures of John Effing Kerry and Lindsey Gramnesty on the page above. This is the best and brightest we have to offer??!! Dig hole, drop em in! Start Over!
Does this mean I can’t grow bananas on my Iowa farm 40 years from now????
Dang, LibTards, get your friggin’ doomsday scenarios straight, will Ya?
Geeese.
On November 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm, T-Bone said:
Thankfully he doesn’t work in a sperm bank.
Settled science indeed …
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Global cooling a theat? well….nope.
Global warming??…ummm….nahhh.
Global liberalism? Now there’s a threat to our existence!
On November 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm, Dexter Alarius said:
Very appropriate!
Especially since the same man-made hoax behavior (manipulation of evidence, suppression of evidence, squeezing dissenting scientists out of the peer review process) is present in both the AGW and Evolution communities.
“Obviously, if the data don’t support the hypothesis, there must be something wrong with the data.”
– Extracted from “The Liberal Guide to the Scientific Method”, 1st edition, 1971 (Forward by Rachel Carson)
Shame on all those scientists who manipulated or falsified data to create the global warming scam. This should be career ending. Corruption in scientific research can not be tolerated. I never thought that the carbon thing was high enough to correlate with human activity. The global warming movement was created not to save the planet but to have another power grab and a path to drain more money from this country. Haven’t we paid enough to fix the world’s problems only to have it not be enough or to fund corrupt dictatorships? I’m so glad the emails surfaced right after I told 2 young global warming supporting pups that they needed to find real jobs.
I’m waiting for heads to roll at green-projects-chasing NASA for years of buried/restricted(?) space probe data from the solar, Mars and Venus and Saturn orbiters that those planetary surfaces have warmed in proportion with ours over time. As far as I know we haven’t colonized too many worlds lately.
James Greenidge
Queens NY
Let the lawsuits begin … Lets start a pool, how many billions will Al Gore be sued for?
If an AlGore farts in the woods, will we all have to move to Venus for our health?
Oh you will just love this spin:
Apparently the AP doesn’t keep up too well with current events.
Hey Phil Jones, I hate to break it to you but you know, that little word, hide in “hide the decline”? Tricks or not, doesn’t the act of hiding something mean that you are deceiving people by preventing them from FINDING whatever it is that you hid?
Spin away Phil!
*I’m guessing Lindsey Grahamnesty will be calling for hearings on this surge in e-mail hacking; If only he would get his head out of Spotted Owl Bores’ rectal orafice, he would see that “it’s the sun, stupid”.
*Never forget, CO2 is NOT a pollutant, and man-made global warming is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind!
I nominate Nobel Peace Prize-winning, Academy Award-winning, former Vice President Al Gore. If he should happen to find deception, he can fine himself some of the millions of dollars he has made taking part in the deception.
Makes perfect liberal sense to me.
AGW is a crock. Climate’s been warming for 18,000+ years and Al Gore has yet to find any 18,000 year old caveman SUVs that started it.
We all know this ‘climate crisis’ was a total invention and that there is zero empirical evidence that CO2, a gas that is essential for life, has any measurable affect on earth’s temperature.
We also know that direct federal spending to ~study~ this ‘crisis’ has been over $30 billion in the last 20 years.
Suppose there was some other threat out there but a REAL one, one for which there are no skeptics, no ‘carbon credits’, no UN politics, etc. – one that would cost only $300 million to study?
Surely if we can afford $30 billion to keep a bunch of government hacks employed studying nonsense we can afford a measly $300 million to study something real right?
WRONG!!!
Ok, I’ll be the first to admit that the chances of there existing a large asteroid destined to hit us within the next few hundred years is rather slim but … asteroids are REAL because we can actually see them out there and we know that they have hit the earth and other planets and moons in our solar system in the past. Therein lies the reason why there are no skeptics in regard to the possibility of our planet being adversely affected by an asteroid… and why there are so many in regard to CO2.
unfortunately that old devil PHYSICS keeps getting in the way of these libs good intentioned ideas. if we just invent perpetual motion, time travel, and salt water that burns, we will be set for life. if the queen had balls, she’d be the king.
Sorry! The above quote was from Louis Friedman, executive director of the Planetary Society not NASA’s Lindley Johnson.
no… it was Johnson (I need a nap).
About time to show some sunshine to this junk science hypotheses.
Just today I read of giant icebergs breaking off and floating to New Zealand. Reason? Yep: global swarming.
I am surprised Nancy Pelosi is not blaming global warming and poor American healthcare on her Botox wearing off too soon.
I know and the world’s last surviving polar bear somehow managed to first get to the southern hemisphere and is now desperately clinging to one of them headed for Funafuti. (I saw it on NBC!)
Oh well, these would be the same mentally defective people who think that AIDS is spread by a lack of federal funding; that up is down, cold is hot, good is bad, etc.
I think that, unfortunate as it is, all this data being released is to late. The whole Copenhagen Treaty thing is steaming ahead regardless, and Obama will sign away our freedom as fast as he can get his hands on the papers.
You have to read this letter from meteorologist and Penn State alumnus Herb Stevens calling for faculty member Michael ‘Hockey Stick’ Mann to be summarily FIRED.
The sky really is falling – on their heads!
I loved this quote from the NY Times the other day:
“Dr. Mann, a professor at Pennsylvania State University, confirmed in an interview that the e-mail message was real. He said the choice of words by his colleague was poor but noted that scientists often used the word “trick” to refer to a good way to solve a problem, “and not something secret.””
Yeah, all through undergrad, grad school, and professionally I OFTEN used the word “trick” to describe my work…Not.
It would seem the proverbial really has hit the fan!
Even the BBC have noticed and hosted a mini debate involving a real scientist (Fred Singer) and an alarmist.
My impression is that the presenter was asking some tough questions of the alarmist and that the debate was generally fair.
Bjc (#846416) I would suggest that “hoax” is nowhere near strong enough to describe what has been happening. Billions of pounds (and dollars) have been defrauded from the taxpayers of our countries – criminal proceedings are very definitely in order!
What did the guy have to say about the phrase “hide the decline?”
These may not be hacked from the outside. These may be from a disgruntled employee or researcher at U. East Anglia. Moreover, UEA has confirmed that the e-mails which have been published thus far are unaltered.
I have no doubt that the employee/researcher/hacker will be prosecuted while the mountebanks/fraudsters who swindled billions of grant money from taxpayers will skate.
I’m all for conservation, but the MSM has hopped on the AGW bandwagon, however, they can only hide from this for so long. It’s going to break big, one way or the other.
Because problems, real, or as in this case, imagined, provide a backdrop for a liberal/socialist “cure” which provides them eternal power because the problem in never cured. It can’t be: no “problem”, no need for the liberal “blight in shining government armor” to fix it.
When one looks at the lousy schools and continued poverty, particularly for minorities, in deep blue states like Massachusetts and Connecticut, one must certainly ask where the liberal “utopia” is, i.e., how come liberals can’t ever seem to fix the problem?
Because they hate to see a crisis go to waste. The thought of all those government grants coming to an end is bad enough. But to watch the rug being pulled out from under all those social and economic programs they were planning to implement in the name of climate change is just unbearable. They were so close to realizing their goal of spreading wealth from the producers to the moochers and bringing American capitalism to its knees that they have to be really hurting right now.
Oh well, there’s always next year. I’m sure it won’t be long before they dream up another bogus crisis that they can use to play on our fears. But what will it be this time?
Will they come up with something new and original, or will they fall back on old standbys like overpopulation, genetically engineered crops, or some new desease similar to swine flu or HIV/AIDs? Maybe they’ll go back to Global Cooling. That way their climate data and computer modeling programs can still be used with just a bit of tweaking in the other direction.
That certainly explains the liberal elitists in office but not those who vote for them. To explain them I defer to Ann Coulter’s “Guilty”. Liberal voters WANT to feel guilty. They enjoy finding ways to blame themselves, our country and Christianity for every thing from AIDS to global warming to every war that ever happened on the face of the earth. It’s just in their blood to automatically assume we are all guilty of causing global warming ..and then immediately take the high ground declaring that they are going to be the magnanimous ones to now do the right thing to cure it and they are not going to allow those – ‘deniers’ – to get in their way.
Clearly it’s a mental disorder.
The feeling from the people that have been following this for many months is that this posting of the so-called hacked files was an inside job by a whistle blower at CRU.
Under UK law the whistle blower is protected from prosecution.
They might not get their government subsidies.
And well they should although they do not know why.
ManBearPig see visions of his permanent position as Grand Abbot of the Earth Children disappearing in a PUFF OF SMOKE. ManBearPig investments about ready to tank. ManBearPig scrambling – never did hear if he retracted his quote about the earths mantle being millions of degrees.
Here’s a great site where a grass root network of volunteers surveyed most of the weather stations in the US and found them to be inaccurate, poorly located or poorly maintained. They found some stations located on the tarmac at some airports or near exhaust vents, A/C units, etc. Not exactly the best way to gather data, unless it fits your ideology.
Errah Teddy, that hole has already been dug and you are in it too, aren’t you?
I am betting that Lord Lawson is still a Lord, just not a member of the British cabinet or government.
Errah, yes one big happy family. Lots of room down here for my friends!!
Yeah, that makes more sense. Seems to me the person had to have knowledge about the messages they were seeking to expose. They may in fact have come in through the outside. But the person or persons orchestrating it probably is or was an insider. Or acting on behalf of one.
Whatever they were….. they’re heroes to me.
Gee, is the House of Gore teetering, tottering, OH MY.
Hey Eco freaks…
Wanna see where the REAL fear is, look up the words “Pacific ring-of-fire”
There’s your climate changer.
Why don’t you figure out how to tax us to cap those, or even one of those.