The indelible whiteness of MSNBC

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 23, 2009 05:07 AM

MSNBC host Chris Matthews, MSNBC reporter Norah O’Donnell, and MSNBC guest Joan Walsh shamelessly played the race card against Sarah Palin and her book-buying audience last week.

In Michigan, O’Donnell smugly noted that Palin’s fans were “largely white — almost no minorities in this crowd.” Matthews parroted the line, assailing the “white crowd.” Walsh likened the gathering to a “paranoid tea party.” Matthews hammered away at the “monochromatic” scene.

Ahem. Check out the masthead of MSNBC TV, “The Place for Politics.” Wear sunglasses and SPF 30 lotion. You’ll need protection from the blinding white glare:

Take a closer look:


White and white.


White.


White.


Pallid white and pasty white.


Does it get any whiter than this?

Oh, and these are the colors of the gang that sneered at Palin’s “white crowd:”


Self-righteously white x 3!

MSNBC’s p.c. pontificators have some nerve clucking about lack of racial diversity.

After the Don Imus debacle, NBC hired a “diversity leader.” By the left-wingers’ own tallying in 2007, guess which network boasted the whitest programming on cable TV during a randomly selected period? Hint: Starts with “M” and ends with “SNBC.”

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Palin-bashing racial bean-counters in monochromatic houses shouldn’t throw stones.

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Speaking of the MSNBC ghouls, Allahpundit’s got video of when Sarah met Andrea Mitchell.

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  1. #1
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 5:12 am, islandman78 said:

    I guess that makes it all white.

  2. #2
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 5:23 am, islandman78 said:

    They aren’t diverse in color nor ideology. Perhaps MSNBC should trade out the peacock for a white flag. It would better represent their world view and monoculture.

  3. #3
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 6:16 am, Brian72 said:

    Which one of these oh-so-tolerant and progressive whities is going to turn their program over to a non-white for some history to be made, and to practice what they preach at the rest of us about affirmative action and diversity?

    Maybe MSDNC can replace that dolt Ed Schultz with the Jeremiah Wright Show.
    It would serve him Wright. Heh.

    Of even better, Rachel Madcow can move out of her time slot to make room the best idea they will never consider in a million years, On the Net with your host, Michelle Malkin.

    That would really be a great move for the network. They would throw up just thinking about it. Makes me smile :)

  4. #4
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 6:47 am, zorro said:

    Just when I thought Chris Matthews could not become any more pathetic he goes ahead and sets another new low.

  5. #5
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 6:48 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Tingly leg Chris Matthews is also a pale faced hypocrite? Me thinketh pale face speak with forked tongue. Obama’s pet peacock is looking much like a turkey this Thanksgiving week ;)

  6. #6
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 6:56 am, BadIdeaGuy said:

    The worst part of these guys for me is that Olbermann’s been part of Sunday Night Football on NBC. I swore Sundary night football off because of him- at least until last night. Go birds.

  7. #7
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 7:43 am, Rob said:

    I don’t have a problem with the “whiteness”… in fact I prefer it to the politically correct Al Sharptons being paraded in front of the camera in order to prove that America is evil. It is time to call a spade a spade… so to speak.

  8. #8
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 am, JammieWearingFool said:

    If MessNBC is going to be the all-white cable station, could they at least get some good-looking white people?

  9. #9
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 am, Rob said:

    I just heard Mika Brzezinski say the success of Jon and Kate plus Eight shows the “stupidity of America.” I think that just about sums up MSNBCs liberal view of Americans…

  10. #10
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:07 am, CJ said:

    Strange. They don’t look white to me. They all look red.

    Must be my monitor.

  11. #11
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:27 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 7:43 am, Rob said:

    I don’t have a problem with the “whiteness”…

    Are you talking about PMSNBC or Spanish Language television? Go to Telemundo and see how many metezo (Mayan-Spanish hybrids as one person so unkindly said) or indios there are. They be more Cortez than Benito Juarez. Chris Matthews would do fine, Sharpton couldn’t get a job in the parking lot.

    Telemundo y PMSNBC: where the white people are.

  12. #12
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:28 am, tre said:

    Sure, there’s not a single, solitary non-Caucasian there.

    But, they all CARE, so that make it all right.

  13. #13
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 am, iamsaved said:

    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, these liberals are so unabashedly hypocritical even a 4 year old can see it.

    Would someone just place a nail through the heart of MSNBC and let it die in peace?

  14. #14
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:35 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Hey MSNBC! “Got milk?!”

  15. #15
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:37 am, zyzzyg said:

    I don’t see what the problem is.

    Is it true that Palin’s book signing was “monochrammitc” and “largely white – and almost no monorities . . . “? Is it also true that MSNBC’s line-up is also “monochrammitc” and “largely white – and almost no monorities . . . “?

    How often should each be stated? Should it be stated at all in either case?

  16. #16
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 am, graysonret said:

    MSNBC? If cable dropped the channel, no one would miss it.

  17. #17
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:57 am, Bicyea said:

    If a White Birch falls in the woods—

  18. #18
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 am, swede said:

    Palin-bashing racial bean-counters in monochromatic houses shouldn’t throw stones.

    “Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:3-5

  19. #19
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 am, Reliq6 said:

    The problem Zyzzg – is that like most liberals, MSNBC and their ilk are obsessed with what color people are. They are race mongering buffoons pretending to be serious journalists. And Michelle is right in pointing out their obvious hypocrisy and idiocy.

    Why do they state it you ask? They do it because it serves their need to further vilify anyone with differing opinions. Over 95% of the black vote goes to Obama? No problem there, just amazingly informed voters right? But every white voter for McCrosstheaisle and anyone at all who supports Palin are obviously racist. (Do I need a sarc tag for that last line?)

  20. #20
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    zyzzyg said:

    I don’t see what the problem is.

    Are you kidding?

    They are calling Palin and her supporters racists. You don’t see the &$^%^ing problem with that?

  21. #21
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am, happyscrapper said:

    It doesn’t matter to me one way or the other what color those pinheads are. The color of their comments is communist red. Those idiots need to just leave the airwaves while they still have some dignity. Wait…too late. Sigh.

  22. #22
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:17 am, Ron said:

    At least FNC should get credit when Juan Williams hosts The Factor, right? Not only is he black, he’s pretty much to the left of the rest of the FNC commentators, even if he’s somewhere to the right of MSNBC…but then, who isn’t?

  23. #23
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 am, LOBOMAN said:

    You know better than to point out the facts! That is just not acceptable to a Lib —- Do as I say, not as I do

  24. #24
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:24 am, Rob said:

    At least FNC should get credit when Juan Williams hosts The Factor, right?

    And that is the problem, giving blacks something just because they are BLACK. That is how Obama got his job… and look how well that is working out.

  25. #25
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:25 am, Flyoverman said:

    The Left is running out of ammo. Keep pushing Sarah……

  26. #26
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:29 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    At least FNC should get credit when Juan Williams hosts The Factor, right?

    No, nor should they get credit when O’ Reilly hosts The Factor. When Laura Ingrahm and Michelle Malkin host the Factor and Geraldine Rivera has to serve them coffee-while wearing a spit mask of course- we can give The Factor credit.

    Yes, I hold a grudge even if the more gracious do not.

  27. #27
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:31 am, jsr said:

    largely white — almost no minorities in this crowd

    I’d be willing to bet this is true of MSNBC’s audience, except you could hardly call it a crowd, or even a group large enough to get an accurate statistical sample.

  28. #28
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 am, Paul Revere said:

    But they are the smart whites! Ya know…the ones that keep blacks in their proper place!

  29. #29
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 am, Dimsdale said:

    The funny thing is, their heads are so pointy, it looks like a Klan meeting!

    Why is it that liberals are so blind to their own racism and biases?

  30. #30
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 am, Dimsdale said:

    Who knew MSNBC could build a plantation out of glass?

  31. #31
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 am, swede said:

    What’s the problem. MSNBC should be applauded for their efforts to employ the mentally challenged.

  32. #32
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 am, CO2 Producer said:

    Re: the MSNBC lineup—

    Well, they look like a white crowd to me. Not that there’s anything wrong with it, but it is pretty monochromatic up there. No surprise in terms of the ethnic nature of the people showing up. But it is a fact.

    Oh, I’m sorry. Did that last paragraph belong in a quote box?

    Here is Mathews in that same segment regarding Palin’s remarks about profiling in the wake of the Ft. Hood tragedy:

    Profiling has a particular meaning…Driving while black…We know what it means. If you come from a Middle Eastern country, keep your eye on this guy. Check him out…That’s profiling.

    Go with that definition if it makes you feel angrier, however untrue it is. Profiling takes into account the behaviors and activities of the individual under analysis. If it doesn’t, it isn’t profiling, it is conjecture which may sometimes be influenced by a racial bias, though not even conjecture is automatically racist. Where is the racist conjecture in the Palin quote:

    And I think that there were massive warning flags that were missed all over the place. And it was quite unfortunate that, to me, it was a fear of being politically incorrect, to not — I’m going to use the word — profile this guy, profiling in the sense of finding out what his radical beliefs were.

    Now, because I used the word profile, I’m going to get clobbered tomorrow morning. The liberals, their heads are just going to be spinning. They are going to say, she is radical. She is extreme.

    But I say profiling in the context of doing whatever we can to save innocent American lives, I’m all for it then.

    Palin didn’t bring up ethnicity, but Mathews heard between the lines. Mathews profiled Palin based on these remarks and on…what else? Palin’s previous behaviors and activities? Has she said anything like, “I don’t trust those Middle Eastern folks?”

    It should be pointed out that Hasan’s radical beliefs were evident and that little analysis was needed because the evidence of Hasan’s radicalism ought to have been overwhelming, even by liberal standards. Profiling him would have been simple to the point of obviousness—as in, “Gee, he sure quacks like a duck, don’t he? Ya think he might be a duck?”

    Whether it was apathy towards ducks or fear of offending all avian walks of life, somebody or somebodies dropped the ball with that filthy mallard. And seeing how Mathews and Co. react to Palin, it would appear that she profiled them to a T.

  33. #33
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 am, b-cat said:

    There are alot of minorities at MSNBC. They sweep the floors and fill the water glasses.

  34. #34
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:51 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Enter; The OPRAH channel on cable.
    Love her or hate her … she’s a pretty sharp cookie, eh?

  35. #35
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 am, Rob said:

    Love her or hate her … she’s a pretty sharp cookie, eh?

    Never watched her…

  36. #36
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:57 am, Mixer14 said:

    So, Michelle – will this be in your next national column? This really needs to go far and wide.

  37. #37
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:59 am, Marc said:

    One of most unintentionally hilarious things I have seen Chris Matthews do recently was to discuss “the neocons”. A guest of Matthews mentioned that “Neocons are aggressive” and before the guest could finish the sentence, Matthews interrupted and said “Well you must be referring to verbal aggression because that is the only kind of aggression the neocons are capable of”. Matthews then said none of these neocons had ever been in a street fight and bragged that when we went to school in Boston, he had to fight his way to school each day. So I looked up where Chris Matthews grew up. He grew up on a quiet tree lined street in a nice neighborhood in Boston of middle class folks and very good quality public schools. You don’t fight your way on to the school bus in New England, trust me on that one. Matthews tried to make it out like he grew up on the mean streets of Compton, Ca. Since Matthews said he was a street fighter in contrast to what he said were wimps from the Weekly Standard, I thought it would be fun to look up Matthews’ military record. He was of draft age during the VietNam war when many working class kids from Boston were shipped off to VietNam. But alas, Chris Matthews appears to have had a student deferment so he preferred Trilling to drilling. Then after his deferment ended, Matthews did not enlist. Instead he went into the peace corps. It must have been awfully dangerous for Chris as he dodged those kids with their pencils and lunch boxes in the hot zone of the Carribean Islands. Gosh, Matthews is a wimp!

  38. #38
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 am, conservativesRus said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am, happyscrapper said:

    It doesn’t matter to me one way or the other what color those pinheads are. The color of their comments is communist red.

    Well said.

  39. #39
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:02 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Never watched her…

    Me either but I don’t have to watch The Oprah Show to know she’s a shrewd business woman.

  40. #40
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Why is it that liberals are so blind to their own racism and biases?

    Practice?

    When talking about the field work we did so many years ago I often hear-”never saw a white man in those fields”; so I tell them MOST of the people in the fields in the 50′s and 60′s were white. I will tell them MOST of the migrants were in fact small farmers themselves who worked others fields when they could to pick up extra cash-we were not full time migrants nor homeless.

    But these Proper Liberals know I am wrong-they all saw Edward R Marrows “Harvest of Shame”-it was on TV so it must be true. So I will ask these Proper Liberals who killed the Labor Camps-”labor camps”?

    Most of that eras field work is gone except picking-I do not miss it but a few seasons of chopping cotton and clearing canals might toughen some of these Proper Liberal wusses a tad. Think Chris Matthews could last a season? He would be a Red Neck :)

    And I do not care what that country song said: Nobody dreams about cotton fields-nightmares perhaps.

  41. #41
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am, behiker said:

    Someone changed the channel at work from Fox to MSNBC earlier this morning (just like they always do). I didn’t catch what they were discussing, but I noticed that there were 7 people on the screen… all white.

  42. #42
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 am, Tazed and Confused said:

    MSNBC: “All our Negroes are on MTV…”

  43. #43
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:22 am, chapoutier said:

    You don’t fight your way on to the school bus in New England, trust me on that one.

    Not true. When I was in 3rd grade (maybe 4th), I was a mouthy little cuss (surprise) and the “big kids” did not take kindly to that, particularly, Shawn, who was, I believe a sophomore or junior.

    I was sick of him picking on me by reaching under my seat from behind and pulling my shoe laces. So I proceeded to take said shoe off, snuck up from behind him, and hit him over the head with it as hard as I could.

    He proceeded to grab me and smash my head across the floor, causing a nice big bleeding gash on the base of my skull.

    Shawn never bothered me again after that. Though, that may have had more to do with my huge stepfather going over the the farm he worked at, choking him against a wall and threatening his life than it did with my shoe.

    Point: the school bus gave me street cred and made me the cold, efficient killer I am today.

  44. #44
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:32 am, jdsbc98 said:

    hmmm looks like this is the new dem talking point…posted on CNN today, and its poorly crafted and lacks any sense of logic.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/11/23/granderson.palin.race/index.html

  45. #45
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am, zyzzyg said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 am, NJ-Aviator said: #846058

    Yet again you’ve managed to avoid answering the questions from my post. But, I will answer yours.

    Are you kidding?

    No, I am not kidding. The answer to both of the questions is ‘true.’ I have no problem with the truth. Do you?

    They are calling Palin and her supporters racists. You don’t see the &$^%^ing problem with that?

    You are seeing things that aren’t there and are responding to dog whistles. And, yes both sides do it.

    When the race of a group of people is mentioned, does it automatically mean there is an unsaid subtext of racism? Does MM mentioning, and pointing out, the racial line up of MSNBC make her a racist?

    The mere mention of race does not mean that someone is being racists. Yes, I see a problem with calling someone a racist just because they mentioned the racial make-up of a crowd, a group of people, or the line-up of a cable network.

  46. #46
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am, DBNinKY said:

    By the left-wingers’ own tallying in 2007, guess which network boasted the whitest programming on cable TV during a randomly selected period? Hint: Starts with “M” and ends with “SNBC.”

    Love it, MM! Great job in pointing out MSNBC’s holier-than-thou hypocrisy; I hope they see-read this article at the “White-People’s Place for Politics!”

  47. #47
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:39 am, max said:

    Yeah, but they’re not white-white….

  48. #48
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Chappy hits people with a shoe and goes to law school? So that is how it works ;)

    I was still wearing my shoes when I hit him so I had to go to the B school. As grandfather said: kick them when they are down-it’s easier that way.

  49. #49
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:01 am, Tuesday said:

    Color has nothing to do with anything. S-t-u-p-i-d-i-t-y in making comments when keeping their mouths shut would have been the correct thing to do will sink MSNBC and the other networks!

    Couldn’t say I’ll mourn their demise. ;D

  50. #50
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:03 am, Atlanta Media Guy said:

    I can’t wait once Comcast and CEO Brian Roberts get their hands on NBC. Hopefully, change is in the tealeaves as GE gives up their majority control.

    Nothing like capping off Green Week on NBC, to find out that the whole Global Warming farce was a pack of lies. False data and scare tactics used by liberal special interests to turn the USA into a banana republic faster than then the speed of light.

    Hey NBC! More hope and change headed your way! Mr. Roberts we can’t wait to see what you’ll do with the most liberal biased news organization in the world!

  51. #51
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:03 am, zyzzyg said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 am, Reliq6 said: #846056

    The problem Zyzzg – is that like most liberals, MSNBC and their ilk are obsessed with what color people are. They are race mongering buffoons pretending to be serious journalists. And Michelle is right in pointing out their obvious hypocrisy and idiocy.

    I would broaden that beyond liberals and MSNBC to include the entire country. We are all obessed (though the word obsessed is a bit strong, can I use ‘aware’) in varying degrees with race.

    Yep, MM is correct in pointing out that the answer to both of my questions are true. And, there is no hypocrisy, unless MSNBC does not acknowledge that their line-up is monochrommatic, too. They will have to be asked because they may not volunteer it.

    Why do they state it you ask? They do it because it serves their need to further vilify anyone with differing opinions. Over 95% of the black vote goes to Obama? No problem there, just amazingly informed voters right? But every white voter for McCrosstheaisle and anyone at all who supports Palin are obviously racist. (Do I need a sarc tag for that last line?)

    They state it because, as I said earlier, the country is aware of race, and it is a part of who we are. Like it or not, race is a deeply woven thread in the fabric of our Nation.

    As for who voted for Pres Obama and in what percentages, it supports the notion that race is an element of the equation that makes up our nation. Will you agree that there are people who voted for, and who voted against, Pres Obama because of his race, regardless of how well they were informed on the issues?

    Nope. No one is obviously racists. It requires more than pointing out the race of any group, crowd, or Cable network line-up, to call them racists for doing so.

    Nope. No sarc tag is necessary.

    It would be nice if we were able to excise the need to mention race at all, wouldn’t it? Yes, we have come along way, and still may have far to go, but that thread will always be there.

  52. #52
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:10 am, sbw999 said:

    Excellent point Michelle, but who will call MSNBC out on its OBVIOUS hypocrisy??? Nobody of course. Liberals are unable intellectually to comprehend how stupid they sound. With blacks voting 98% for Obama, did they expect the million man march at the book store? MCNBC is of course the bottom of the barrel; the Jerry Springer show of “political” shows, so nobody is really surprised. But the funny thing about liberal commentators/politicians, is that they can correctly count on the stunning imbecility of their viewers and constituents to accept this stuff as profound or factual.

    Funny thing about Chris Matthews is that I recall about 3 years ago, or so, I could watch his show because it was semi-authentic/semi credible, with some decent debate. Then with the Obama campaign and his infamous “thrill down his leg” comment, he became a cheerleading groupie, a parody of himself gone off the rails; a joke even on MSNBC (ask Joe Scarbrough).

  53. #53
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am, happyscrapper said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am, zyzzyg said:
    Yet again you’ve managed to avoid answering the questions from my post.

    Yet again, ZY, you fail to realize that we try not to feed trolls, thus your questions will quite often remained unanswered.

  54. #54
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:26 am, Gorebot said:

    If MessNBC is a “viable” cable network, then Mother Teresa was a Devil Worshipper.

    If only al Qaeda had aimed one of it’s planes at 30 Rockefeller Center, its conceiveable (marginally) that they could’ve whipped up a bit of sympathy (of course, at this point, Oprah Winfrey’s bother, Attorney General Eric [Be]holder, has already provided that).

  55. #55
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:30 am, Gorebot said:

    “Since liberalism begins and ends with moral posturing, its practioners never have to face the harsh reality of addresssing facts on the ground as they really are.”

    Just one of my many favorite quotations by the former leftist radical David Horowitz!

  56. #56
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI CHAPOUTIER and ARIZONA NEANDERTHAL–we all apply “proper solutions” to solve bully problems.
    ***
    On my first day in school–first grade recess–the bully and his buddies came up to me and laughed at my cheap tennis shoes and made fun of me. While I was watching him one of them knelt down behind me and the bully pushed me over him. I hit the rocky ground and scraped up my elbows. They started to walk away laughing.
    ***
    I noticed a fist sized rock nearby. I picked it up and “applied an engineering solution” to the back of the bully’s head and knocked him down–it cut him some.
    ***
    We were both in the principal’s office soon–he had a nice band aid the school nurse put on his cut. DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS!
    ***
    As far as “diversity” or “blackness” on TV and news shows–I like Juan Williams on Fox. Yes–he is a liberal–but a good person with a real history in the Civil Rights movement. I don’t think he is there because of his skin color.
    ***
    The good Black and Minority people I know and worked with advanced in life due to their courage, skill, and hard work–not due to some politically “correct” skin color or ethnic qualities.
    ***
    Ditto for Oprah Winfrey–she earned her wealth “fair and square”–and shares it with poor African girls in the school she set up for them–using her own money–not other people’s money.
    ***
    Caucasians are 60 percent of our country. If 90 percent of us Gringos take pride in a good White candidate–like Sarah Palin–and put her into office it won’t be racism. Just good judgment–54 percent wins.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  57. #57
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:49 am, Rob said:

    Caucasians are 60 percent of our country. If 90 percent of us Gringos take pride in a good White candidate–like Sarah Palin–and put her into office it won’t be racism. Just good judgment–54 percent wins.

    Next year it will be 59%… sigh

  58. #58
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am, happyscrapper said: #846151

    Yet again, ZY, you fail to realize that we try not to feed trolls, thus your questions will quite often remained unanswered.

    Then why comment on what I post in response to what MM has blogged?

    You fail to realize that if you take me to task and comment on what I post, then I will more than likely respond.

    Answer the question, or don’t answer the questions. Once you engage me and then tuck tail and run back under the shadow of the bridge where you hide, well it says more about you, than it does about me.

  59. #59
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm, zyzzyg said:Then why comment on what I post in response to what MM has blogged?

    You fail to realize that if you take me to task and comment on what I post, then I will more than likely respond.

    Answer the question, or don’t answer the questions. Once you engage me and then tuck tail and run back under the shadow of the bridge where you hide, well it says more about you, than it does about me.

    Just thought I would save you the trouble of asking your stupid questions in the first place. When you ask a dumb question, chances are it won’t be answered. But go ahead, be my guest. Just stop complaining when your question doesn’t get answered. Your whining is annoying, and so are you. Now, I didn’t tuck tail and run, did I? But I do have other things in my life, so I can’t be here all the time. Now, back to work.

  60. #60
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Matthews and Olbermann? At least they have plenty of wimmin’…

    PS – Obama is half white, and less than half black…for those who care about such things…

  61. #61
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Not true. When I was in 3rd grade (maybe 4th), I was a mouthy little cuss (surprise) and the “big kids” did not take kindly to that, particularly, Shawn, who was, I believe a sophomore or junior.

    Shawn Emanuel? The kid who always had a raw tuna fish sandwich he’d leave in other kids’ desks?

  62. #62
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    If I were looking to diverisfy my newsroom, I’d go find that African woman who told Don Lemon that Africans gave Bush a warm welcome…

  63. #63
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    rocketman said
    Caucasians are 60 percent of our country. If 90 percent of us Gringos take pride in a good White candidate–like Sarah Palin–

    There you go Gringo Loco-leaving your little brown brother out of the loop; heartbreaking it is being the sensitive type I am. I am forced to report you to John “Reach and Grab” McCain and Lady Lindsay.

    But I will support even a good White candidate–like Sarah Palin; if she can skin a moose I am sure she can skin a Democrat or RINO.

    Now I feel better-you’re forgiven.

  64. #64
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm, happyscrapper said: #846258

    Just thought I would save you the trouble of asking your stupid questions in the first place. When you ask a dumb question, chances are it won’t be answered. But go ahead, be my guest. Just stop complaining when your question doesn’t get answered. Your whining is annoying, and so are you. Now, I didn’t tuck tail and run, did I? But I do have other things in my life, so I can’t be here all the time. Now, back to work.

    How kind and thoughtful of you to think of me, my time and trouble. LOL.

    Ummm, pretty sure that I am MM’s guest.

    Stating facts is not complaining or whining. Troll like behaviour is commenting on what someone posts and then disappearing. Do you have a problem with that definition?

    Did not say you tucked tail and ran. You interjected yourself into what I said to another blogger, and I stated my position. You engaged me and I responded. Don’t engage me and I won’t have anything to say to you. Does that work for you? Ooops, that was a question.

    Just don’t comment what I say, or what I say to others. Yes, otherwise I will respond.

    Now, get back to work, slacker. LOL. C’mon, have a sense of humour.

  65. #65
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm, almiller said:

    Liberalism is about marginalizing minorities. Minorities are energy consuming, food eating, polluting animals that should be reduced by abortion, substandard healthcare and etc.

  66. #66
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    THANK YOU ARIZONA NEANDERTHAL.–My Mexican wife of 40 years–a Chihuahua ranch girl who became an American Citizen long ago–says that I am more “Mexican” than most of her family. That was a real compliment.
    ***
    I am fluent in Spanish, and my two sons–specialist doctors in Phoenix–and my business lady daughter in El Paso–are all fluent in Spanish also.
    ***
    Sorry to have left my Hispanic brothers out of the post–I have the highest respect for good people of all races and ethnic backgrounds.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  67. #67
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm, Speakup said:

    MSNBC, boldly keeping racism safe for..ummm..wellll.

  68. #68
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    zyzzyg said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 am, NJ-Aviator said: #846058

    Yet again you’ve managed to avoid answering the questions from my post. But, I will answer yours.

    First, I’m not obligated to answer your questions.

    But frankly, your questions in this case are either ignorant, naive or disingenuous.

    But I’ll answer them anyway.

    Of course Matthews, O’Donnell and Walsh meant to insinuate that Palin and her supports are racists. That has been and continues to be part of their agenda. That is to claim the political right are bigots.

    Q1: Are Palin’s book signings mostly white? Perhaps. But I’ve not been to one. As to why that might be, you’d have to ask the blacks that opted not to go. But since the vast majority of blacks voted against Palin, it’s not surprising you do not see many at her signings.

    Don’t pretend that this was an innocent observation of those at MSNBC. It was intended to paint Palin et al as racists.

    Q2: Are the MSNBC hosts mostly white?

    No, they are all white. And why was THIS pointed out? As a response to the MSNBC statements so that it’s easy to see that they are hypocrites.

    Q3: How often should it be stated? Never in the context of MSNBC’s statements. In MM’s context…. anytime one’s integrity is challenged, it’s appropriate to respond as she did here.

    Are you kidding?

    No, I am not kidding. The answer to both of the questions is ‘true.’ I have no problem with the truth. Do you?

    It’s astonishing the degree to which you seem to feign ignorance. While MSNBC’s statement may be mathematically true, the underlying message is clearly…. “Palin’s a racist white chick with a bunch of racist white people behind her.”

    They are calling Palin and her supporters racists. You don’t see the &$^%^ing problem with that?

    You are seeing things that aren’t there and are responding to dog whistles. And, yes both sides do it.

    Again. You’re kidding yourself. And then you say both sides do it. Which says you get MSNBC’s unstated point.

    When the race of a group of people is mentioned, does it automatically mean there is an unsaid subtext of racism?

    Oh, then please do tell us what their point was about all these white people.

    Does MM mentioning, and pointing out, the racial line up of MSNBC make her a racist?

    Clearly no. She’s responding to a racially motivated statement by MSNBC staff. They are throwing out that only white people support Palin. First, that’s not true. Second, they are as others on the left have done with Tea Party attendees, painting a picture of racist righties. MM is pointing out that they are idiots for seeding the racist issue on the basis of the composition of a group, when they themselves are as white as the driven snow, yet make no assertions about themselves.

    What don’t you get about that?????

    The mere mention of race does not mean that someone is being racists. Yes, I see a problem with calling someone a racist just because they mentioned the racial make-up of a crowd, a group of people, or the line-up of a cable network.

    I’ll leave you with you delusions. You are certainly trying hard to ignore what goes on when conservatives are spoken of in the leftist media. I’m not sure which would be worse. That you believe they’re just quoting demographics for the heck of it…. or you do get the picture and can’t admit it.

  69. #69
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 3:38 pm, Jim C. said:

    MSNBC – Minority Shortage, Nothin’ But Caucasians

  70. #70
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm, Rob said:

    And, yes both sides do it.

    But one side is RIGHT and the other side is LEFT!

  71. #71
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm, Common Sense said:

    This reminds me of junior high when a girl with pale skin and freckles called me, a brunette with brown eyes, a “honky”.

    I’m guessing she’s a registered Democrat now.

  72. #72
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 5:04 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm, zyzzyg said:
    Answer the question, or don’t answer the questions. Once you engage me and then tuck tail and run back under the shadow of the bridge where you hide, well it says more about you, than it does about me.

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm, zyzzyg said:
    Did not say you tucked tail and ran. You interjected yourself into what I said to another blogger, and I stated my position.

    Yes, you did say it. But that’s o.k. I have a sense of humor and that was pretty funny. It is typical of liberals to say something and then turn right around and say they didn’t say it. I am laughing my butt off!! :grin:

  73. #73
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm, docflash said:

    Mighty white of them isn’t it?

  74. #74
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 5:53 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm, NJ-Aviator said: #846406

    First, I’m not obligated to answer your questions.

    Of course you aren’t. Like I said, answer the question or don’t answer the question, but do know when you take me to task, I will pedpond. Commenting on my post without addressing the questions is weak.

    But frankly, your questions in this case are either ignorant, naive or disingenuous.

  75. #75
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 pm, William said:

    It is nice to see race obsessed crazies, like O’Donnel and Matthews, pushing their racist BS, trying to foment hatred, trying to start a fight, trying to start trouble!

    What they lack in class, style, skill, and depth, they make up for with hate and race mongering.

  76. #76
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm, Rob said:

    It is nice to see race obsessed crazies, like O’Donnel and Matthews

    Since Obama has been on my radar I have become race obsessed too…

    Remember his PEEPS?… who voted for him almost 100%… Hell, I even saw Charles Payne unabashedly say he voted for Obama JUST because he was black.

  77. #77
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm, NJ-Aviator said: #846406

    But frankly, your questions in this case are either ignorant, naive or disingenuous.

    Nope. They are just questions to which the answers are ‘true.’

    But I’ll answer them anyway.

    Good on you.

    Of course Matthews, O’Donnell and Walsh meant to insinuate that Palin and her supports are racists. That has been and continues to be part of their agenda. That is to claim the political right are bigots.

    Saying what you mean, and meaning what you say are two different things. They did not call anyone a racist. Then again you seem to have developed an Al Sharpton sensibility to hearing race in every little comment.

    Don’t pretend that this was an innocent observation of those at MSNBC. It was intended to paint Palin et al as racists.

    It was an observation and you are welcome to assign motive to others, I prefer not to.

    Q2: Are the MSNBC hosts mostly white?

    Yep. A valid observation and one where you should not be called a racist for addressing, or asking about.

    No, they are all white. And why was THIS pointed out? As a response to the MSNBC statements so that it’s easy to see that they are hypocrites.

    Nope. MM offered a qualification by referring to the ‘masthead.’ Tamron Hall is on in the time slot between Mitchell and Matthews. Oh yeah, that is a two hour time slot. We shouldn’t allow the facts to get in the way of presenting corrupted points of view.

    Q3: How often should it be stated? Never in the context of MSNBC’s statements. In MM’s context…. anytime one’s integrity is challenged, it’s appropriate to respond as she did here.

    And, as I said earlier they might not volunteer the monochrome nature of their network, they should be asked, and hopefully they will.

    Though they might subscribe to your philosophy about not being obligated to answer questions.

    It’s astonishing the degree to which you seem to feign ignorance. While MSNBC’s statement may be mathematically true, the underlying message is clearly…. “Palin’s a racist white chick with a bunch of racist white people behind her.”

    Nope, just listening to their actual words. You seem to have Al Sharpton antennae. This is about you, who like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, jump to conclusions.

    A friend once said to me, that when reporters say black clouds or black ice, they are being racists. I told to please shut up. He too is hearing dog whistles.

    Again. You’re kidding yourself. And then you say both sides do it. Which says you get MSNBC’s unstated point.

    Yes. Both sides do it, and saying so does not mean it was done in this case.

    Oh, then please do tell us what their point was about all these white people.

    They made an observation. If you want to assign motive to MSNBC, or to the newscaster my friends says are racists, then you, Sharpton and Jackson can respond to all the dog whistles you want.

    Clearly no. She’s responding to a racially motivated statement by MSNBC staff. They are throwing out that only white people support Palin. First, that’s not true. Second, they are as others on the left have done with Tea Party attendees, painting a picture of racist righties. MM is pointing out that they are idiots for seeding the racist issue on the basis of the composition of a group, when they themselves are as white as the driven snow, yet make no assertions about themselves.

    So it is OK for MM to point out the race of a group and not be called a racist, but it is not OK for others to do it? OH, it is context that matters. The context of the motives you are willing to assign to someone based on their past performance. And, Sharpton and Jackson don’t do this?

    We just disagree.

    I did not hear the word racist. No one was called a racist. Any assumption of racism is made by you, and people like Sharpton and Jackson. Enjoy the company.

  78. #78
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm, zorro said:

    Speaking of the MSNBC ghouls

    Perfect.

  79. #79
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 pm, BOB said:

    If the crowd is all white, why is that a problem?

  80. #80
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm, ammo john said:

    NBC- proud as an albino peacock

  81. #81
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 6:49 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 5:04 pm, happyscrapper said: #846465

    Yes, you did say it. But that’s o.k. I have a sense of humor and that was pretty funny. It is typical of liberals to say something and then turn right around and say they didn’t say it. I am laughing my butt off!!

    Good greif.

    The first post to you was a reference to another blogger who had commented on my post, and who has since responded. You intejected yourself between me and that other blogger. I took that other blogger to task for not addressing or answering the questions in my post.

    Try following the sequence of the thread, and your contribution to it. Should you have any further difficulty in understanding, I will provide greater detail for you. OK, maybe it was me. Maybe I should have said, “Once the other blogger engaged me and then tucks tail and runs …”

    You obviously have not tucked tail and run. Others have, and others will continue to do so. They are the real trolls.

    Whoops, I better rewrite that. Don’t want to cause any confusion. Happyscrapper obviously has not tucked tail and run. NJ Aviator has since responded to my questions, and has not tuck tail and run.

    And, Zyzzyg has since responded to them both. Never tucking tail and running. Good grief, now you have got Zyzzyg talking in the third person about myself.

  82. #82
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm, rooster said:

    leave the trollzzzzzzzzz alone

  83. #83
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 7:26 pm, corkie said:

    zyzzyg,

    Nobody tucks tail and runs from you.

    They yawn and drift away from you.

    Your comments are usually either stupid and/or boring (even when you agree with everyone). The only part that’s slightly entertaining is that you fancy yourself as asking piercing, difficult questions.

    When will you realize that none of your questions are piercing and none are difficult to answer?

  84. #84
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm, rooster said:
    leave the trollzzzzzzzzz alone

    Will do. Or course, it will have the last word as usual, but that’s o.k.

    Time to get back to my book…Stephen King’s new 1500 page novel “Under the Dome”. Seriously, it is vintage King, like he used to write before his style got really cumbersome and I gave up on him for a while. I can hardly put the thing down. Very very huge book. I have to prop pillows on my lap to hold the book. This is a very good read and I am happy to report that the old Stephen King is finally back.

  85. #85
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:01 pm, happy2behere said:

    It’s the principal of “…before you comment about the speck in another’s eye, you should take the log out of your own.” Or maybe treating others as you would want to be treated if you were in the same situation…Oh wait, they are!

  86. #86
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 pm, Major O said:

    We just disagree.

    I did not hear the word racist. No one was called a racist. Any assumption of racism is made by you, and people like Sharpton and Jackson. Enjoy the company.

    Oh stop, zigzag. You’re being purposefully obtuse and today it’s just tiresome.

    What other reason would prompt the likes of Matthews to mention the crowds were mostly white? Just STOP with the inane, “Yep,
    [insert some lame observation here}”
    Sometimes you just get too much of people like you, you know?

    As I am wont to say here on many occasions, I’ve been black all my life and I can tell you without a second’s hesitation that in America, the ONLY reason anybody points out that a given gathering is “mostly white” is because they view the circumstance as a negative–period.

    My hunch is you doggone well know this so please do us all a favor and just stop with the feigned “I didn’t hear the word ‘racist’” as if that word has to be explicitly said in order to assert its reality.

    Just stop. It’s getting dumb.

  87. #87
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:27 pm, William said:

    MSNBC made an issue out of the racial issue in regard to Sarah Palin’s book signing crowd, an issue which makes no sense unless MSNBC is attempting to play the race card and foment racial animus and indict Sarah Palin and her book signing audience as racists.

    Clearly MSNBC was doing so, engaging in race mongering and attempting to marginalize Sarah Palin as racists, and in so doing using the idea that they are racists in order to marginalize them and negate the validity of their right to be attending Sarah Palin’s book signing, and, further, to be conservatives.

    Michelle Malkin justly and wisely pointed out the content of MSNBC’s masthead, all white persons, in pointing out the “allright for me, but not for thee” self righteous indignation.

    MSNBC representatives DID talk about Sarah Palin’s “followers” as a tribal scene, and did attempt to indict them as racists.

    The phony attempt on this forum’s comments by one or more posters to obscure and tap dance around the facts speaks volumes to the deceit, dishonesty, and dismissiveness, not to mention the dishonesty, of those who have attempted that form of mental masturbation.

    Yes, MSNBC WAS playing the race card and trying to trump up racial animus and minimize the value of Sarah Palin’s book tour and those who attended.

    Yes, Michelle Malkin’s point is valid, and not an attempt at playing the “race card” but is, instead, merely pointing out the truth about MSNBC and their dishonesty and double standard.

    No, those who are aware of this dishonest attempt by MSNBC to skew the news in a racist form against Conservatives, Sarah Palin, and her attendees is not the same as racists, race mongers Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson’s race mongering and racism.

  88. #88
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 pm, chapoutier said:

    What other reason would prompt the likes of Matthews to mention the crowds were mostly white?

    Opining that minorities don’t seem to support Palin, which is all I think could safely be inferred from Matthew’s and O’Donnell’s comment, is not ANYTHING the same as claiming that that those that support her are racist. I don’t know how one makes that leap in logic.

  89. #89
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:05 pm, DubiousD said:

    MSNBC was more diverse back in the late ’90s and early ’00s, when their roster included Soledad O’Brien, Suzanne Malveaux, Lester Holt, and Lori Stokes. O’Brien and Malveaux jumped ship for CNN, Holt was promoted to the main NBC network, and Stokes left for WABC-TV in NYC. It was only after that MSNBC began its drift toward its current all white roster.

  90. #90
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:06 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    In the words of George Jefferson, honky.

    There. I said it.

  91. #91
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:06 pm, happy2behere said:

    Right, so the smugness, the repetitive descriptions of whiteness and the “paranoid tea party” comment were combined to simply point out a lack of minority involvement.

  92. #92
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:20 pm, chapoutier said:

    Right, so the smugness, the repetitive descriptions of whiteness and the “paranoid tea party” comment were combined to simply point out a lack of minority involvement.

    I have no doubt you will read into it whatever subtext you want. All I am saying is that, on its face, saying a crowd is mostly white is not the same as saying the crowd is racist. But for what its worth, the tea party doesn’t have a heck of a lot of minority involvement either, from what I saw. When I went down to the Bachmann rally on Capitol Hill a few weeks ago, out of the literally hundreds (if not a thousand or so) of people in my line of sight during my three plus hours there, I saw exactly one asian person and exactly one black person (whom I was told was Lloyd Marcus). So comparing it to a Tea Party with respect to racial composition probably wasn’t terribly inaccurate.

  93. #93
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:28 pm, Dimsdale said:

    To parody a movie:

    “The Unbearable Whiteness of Being Liberal” on MSNBC.

  94. #94
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 9:42 pm, rightisright said:

    Why is it that liberals are so blind to their own racism and biases?

    KOOL-AIDE!

  95. #95
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 pm, Major O said: #846524

    Oh stop, zigzag. You’re being purposefully obtuse and today it’s just tiresome.

    No, you stop.

    What other reason would prompt the likes of Matthews to mention the crowds were mostly white? Just STOP with the inane, “Yep,
    [insert some lame observation here}”
    Sometimes you just get too much of people like you, you know?

    I don’t know. Maybe he should be asked before assumptions are made about his intent, or whether those people are actually racist.

    And, if people like you get too much of people like me, maybe you ought not take me to task and comment on my posts.

    As I am wont to say here on many occasions, I’ve been black all my life and I can tell you without a second’s hesitation that in America, the ONLY reason anybody points out that a given gathering is “mostly white” is because they view the circumstance as a negative–period.

    The next time my family is together (probably this Thursday) I’ll say something like that, they will all pretty much say, yeah so what, but what about your niece’s husband and their children? Sorry, but no negatives here. Though it is true that race is a deeply woven thread in the fabric of our nation.

    My hunch is you doggone well know this so please do us all a favor and just stop with the feigned “I didn’t hear the word ‘racist’” as if that word has to be explicitly said in order to assert its reality.

    Did you hear the word racist? Do you think those people are racist? Nothing feigned on my part. No it does not always have to be said, but you have to be more than white to be a racist.

    Just stop. It’s getting dumb.

    No, you stop.

  96. #96
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:36 pm, happy2behere said:

    Maybe the MSNBC anchors did not outright label anyone racist because it could cause them some legal trouble. If one were an anchor and didn’t want to have legal trouble, one might use the same sort of tactics MSNBC used. In other words, some might come as close to saying it as they could, while still having plausible deniability. Hum, did I spell that right?

  97. #97
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm, Republicanvet said:

    MSNBC. Self-righteous and self-whiteous.

  98. #98
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm, Republicanvet said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On November 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 pm, Major O said: #846524

    Oh stop, zigzag. You’re being purposefully obtuse and today it’s just tiresome.

    No, you stop.

    What other reason would prompt the likes of Matthews to mention the crowds were mostly white? Just STOP with the inane, “Yep,
    [insert some lame observation here}”
    Sometimes you just get too much of people like you, you know?

    I don’t know. Maybe he should be asked before assumptions are made about his intent, or whether those people are actually racist.

    That pig Matthews doesn’t deserve any slack. Why give him any?

  99. #99
    On November 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 pm, AmericaFirst said:

    Andrea Mitchell… HA! Hilarious video. That liberal sea hag knows she will never get an interview from Sarah, so the tentacled octopus is practically falling over and sliming the cops like it’s a Beatles concert. Well Andrea, you’ll be 65 in a couple of years. You and your lunatic hubby Alan Greenspan can sit back and reflect on America’s zero interest housing bubble he brought to this country. You’ll have plenty of free time to watch President Sarah fire then prosecute every liberal hiding under their desks in her new administration.

  100. #100
    On November 24th, 2009 at 12:35 am, BrianNY said:

    Silly Rabbit…MSNBC doesn’t care about black people after the first week in November.

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