Here comes a new Demcare Trojan Horse
What are the Democrats cooking up now? A new health care turkey casserole with public-option entrails. Yet another Demcare Trojan Horse. Watch out:
A new measure on the public option will be unveiled next week, which Senate Democratic leaders hope will break the logjam on healthcare reform.
Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.), who has been tapped by Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to come up with a Plan B approach to the public option controversy that has divided Democrats, has been working closely with liberal and conservative Democrats, as well as Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine).
…Carper, a junior member of the Finance Committee, was tight-lipped on the details of his plan, but noted that he has been talking extensively with Snowe. He pointed out that he served with Snowe, and her husband, former Maine Gov. John McKernan (R), in the House.
Snowe favors a trigger proposal, where a public option would go into effect if the private health insurance market falters. The trigger has been soundly rejected by some liberals in Congress.
Carper has been working on variations of the public option for months. Recently, he has touted a so-called hammer public option that he believes answers centrists’ criticisms that the public option in Reid’s bill is government-run and government-funded. The public option would kick in for states where insurance companies fail to meet standards of availability and affordability of plans. Unlike Snowe’s trigger proposal, which would give insurers at least one year to satisfy those requirements, Carper’s public option would start the first year the bill goes into effect. States might be permitted to opt into the public option even if the benchmarks are met.
Under Carper’s proposal, the bill would establish a national public insurance program founded by the government but managed by a non-governmental board. In addition, the plan would be unable to access any taxpayer dollars beyond its initial seed money. This public option would operate alongside private insurance and, potentially, the nonprofit healthcare cooperatives and state-based public plans authorized by Reid’s bill.
This plan is fluid and final details are expected to be ironed out in the coming days.
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Snowe will be involved in the sellout of America, make book on that.
So is pee! So much for Plan B!
(cough! bull**it! cough!)
How’s a trillion sound, would you like a trillion?
Seems to me she already has sold us down the river, or at least had a big part in it.
whatever democrats come up with on health care will be a scam. they can call it whatever they want, but total government control is the objective. democrats however know that being honest (an unknown word to democrats)will not win over any tax payers so they prefer to lie over and over again.
These pathetic weasels never give up.
Neither do we.
Preston Brooks- born a century too early…
Trigger option, hammer option, schmoption option… Politicians are mainly like magicians with their patter, in this case of option, when the truth will be the opposite.
Once this is in, there’ll ultimately be no option. We’ll all be in the charity ward together, supplicants of Big Government.
Translation: They will change it once they get the BS version to pass.
We’re getting attacked from every angle. They know they’re running out of time, so they have the peddle to the metal.
Socialist Health care
Gun Control
Socialist Energy control
Free Speech Control
Neutering of our military
Socialist Tax increases
Socialist business takeovers
it just goes on and on.
The trigger itself is the Trojan Horse. Any thinking person can see that premiums will spiral out of control even further with all the new mandates and requirements to cover pre-existing conditions. In fact this bill, which shamelessly is presented to a dumbed-down public as something that will lower costs, is almost perfectly designed to do the exact opposite. I can already imagine the hearings in a few years with Democrat congressmen feigning outrage at insurance execs who have failed to control costs despite the wonderful legislation they gifted the American public.
Bingo. In the Senate bill, HHS will be responsible for setting the premiums for private health insurance companies.
When you are the referee and a player in the game, there is only one the game is going to end… .
FTA: “Under Carper’s proposal, the bill would establish a national public insurance program founded by the government but managed by a non-governmental board. In addition, the plan would be unable to access any taxpayer dollars beyond its initial seed money.”
OK … let’s give ‘em the benefit of doubt, and really stretch our imaginations. Let’s assume that it will be the first government-run social program in recorded history to operate efficiently, and without any additional taxpayer support.
…anyone else with me on that?
“…managed by a non-governmental board”; “…unable to access any taxpayer dollars” — until the program goes belly-up, that is … then, what next?
Why a bailout, of course !!
And they’ll see to it it falters.
And they’ll see to it they don’t meet the standards.
That’s what they meant to say.
But Obama would manage the non-government board.
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“No taxpayer dollars”, how many times have we heard THAT before?
At least until the private insurance is driven out of business.
Good, then lets pour it down the drain!
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BURN THAT HORSE–NOW!!
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And smoke any politician who votes for this (or any other) C**P SANDWICH–vote them out in the 2010 and 2012 elections. Sometimes unemployment is a good thing.
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John Bibb
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Yeah, like that’ll happen!
I hesitate to be so crude as to call Sen Snowe a dumb broad but really…Isn’t she?
Pardon me while I choke on my sandwich.
libs will NEVER give up on a public option, as that is what they really want. they want a beaurocracy just like the medicare/medicaid beaurocracy full of 80i.q. step and fetch it democrat voters. they see this as the means to ensure socialist governance in the u.s. forever. anyone who doesn’t understand that is delusional of stupid, including senator snowe.
And why not? Look how well it has worked with the post office. /sarc
Is there any reason why Olympia Snowe hasn’t taken the Specter route and just declared herself a Dem?
I have my own “trigger” proposal. They would not like it. Nope, not a gun.
My trigger proposal would be if this boondoggle passes it would trigger states to secede. The only way to stop this runaway train of government take overs is to take away their ability to do so. What could your state do with the amount of tax revenue we send to Washington every year? Would your state do a better job of looking after your needs while keeping costs down? Let’s find out.
Not sure, how wide is she? (the dumb part is a given)
and just what fund will all these up front taxes be placed into?? the general fund to be used at will? a health care fund (to be raped like medicare/medicaid)? just where will it be placed??? questions and no answers from them as usual….
This is all part of the donk game plan: Keep moving the goal posts during the game, keep adding more and more pages to an already monstrous bill, keep slipping new things in behind closed doors, and then cram it up our @sses in the dead of night.
Somehow, I envision Michelle up in a tower somewhere trying to warn us of what’s coming: “One if by hook, two if bf crook…”
Lets face it. None of this is about improving healthcare or providing insurance for those without it. It is about grabbing our money. The gov would like nothing better than to take our entire paycheck and then dole out what it thinks we should have. If the gov passes this BS, then we need to stage a nation wide strike against the power grab.
The Christmas rifle needs to be zeroed.
I’m concerned that the Speaker of the House couldn’t believe that a question concerning the potential jailing and fining of a hypothetical citizen for refusing to buy healthcare coverage was serious. I guess she is not familiar with the Constitution. She’s probably also not familiar with the oaths I took in the Army to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.”
ECS
ummm… You heard about the hidden VAT tax also, right?
Yeah fluid. I’m thinking fluid as in diahhrea.