Explosive: The not-safe-for-school reading list of the safe schools czar; Plus: GLSEN sponsors gay Santa play; and a “Fistgate” flashback

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 4, 2009 12:25 PM

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Doing the investigative work the dinosaur, Obama-enabling media won’t do, Scott Baker and a collaborative research team have waded through the sexually explicit reading list endorsed by safe schools czar Kevin Jennings and the group he founded — GLSEN.

Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit posts the team’s report.

Make sure you have an empty stomach before you read.

A few excerpts to get you started:

Reflections of a Rock Lobster – Pages 13 + 14

(At the age of six, the author played “sex therapist” with a five-year-old friend, and “explored our sexuality to its fullest.”)

One friend I was very close to was Billy Marlen. Billy was a year behind me in school yet we got along well together. In our friendship, a special camaraderie existed that was rare in my other friendships. There was a brotherhood that does not often occur even between brothers. We shared our toys and spent many summer days building sandcastles on the beach. On rainy days I’d walk down to Billy’s house where we spent the day reading books and building racetracks and playing sex therapist in his basement. We were human beings who knew no social inhibitions and were willing to explore our sexuality to its fullest
.

….

Passages of Pride – Page 4

(Beginning at the age of five, a young child has sexual encounters with his playmates.)

Throughout his childhood, from age five on, Derek would sneak off with a friend into someone’s basement or the woods along the back alley, where they would take off their pants and play with each other, usually fondling each other’s genitals. It became habitual.

“At that time, I didn’t quite have a name for it,” says Derek. “It was something that I liked doing, that felt good, that I wanted to do as often as I could. The other kids always recognized it as being something bad and dirty. And all I wanted to know was, When can we do it again?”

In Your Face – Page 150

(The author describes how a sudden and impulsive sexual encounter was the healthiest relationship he’s ever had, then regrets the incestuous relationship he had with his cousin.)

But I know in the immediate future I want a very healthy relationship, because I’ve never really had a healthy relationship. The closest I’ve had was with a guy that I met at the lake when we lived in Davenport. I just met him at the lake, and he already had a boyfriend and stuff. I just walked up to him and said, “Do you want to f**k?” and we did. For a week. And then I went home because I couldn’t handle it anymore. The relationship I had with my cousin was very, very twisted, and I didn’t like hiding it. I mean, he was my cousin, and so it feels rather disgusting. But I think that you’re gonna fall in love with whomever you’re gonna fall in love with.

Would Barack and Michelle Obama approve of their daughters reading this in their classrooms?

Is Kevin Jennings bringing his reading list to your children’s school?

Email: Kevin.Jennings@ed.gov

Email: Arne.Duncan@ed.gov

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Related: GLSEN sponsors “Santa is Coming Out:”

Join GLSEN December 8th, 2009 at 6:00 p.m. for a benefit evening of festivities and entertainment with Santa Claus Is Coming Out, an Off Broadway show written and performed by Jeffrey Solomon, and directed by Joe Brancato.

Santa Claus Is Coming Out is a Santa story like you’ve never heard before. Developed at Penguin Rep Theatre, this mock-u-mentary follows Santa in his heartfelt struggle to reconcile his romantic relationship with Italian toy maker Giovanni Geppetto, and he better think of something fast because Christmas is just around the corner! Garnered to induce plenty of hearty chuckles, this clever Santa story is sure to leave you with a new found appreciation for the cheery, snowy-bearded icon.

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I first encountered GLSEN in Seattle in 1997, when it was known as GLSTN. They’ve been at this a long time. A flashback:

Tuesday, November 25, 1997 – Page updated at 12:00 AM
And Now Some News That’s Fit To Print – But Wasn’t
By Michelle Malkin
Times Editorial Columnist

A bulging file stashed in my bottom desk drawer bears the label “FIT TO PRINT.” It contains numerous and sundry news items that, for whatever reason, have never been published in the pages of our local newspapers. Until now:

– Citizen watchdog exposes Seattle schools’ link to Internet smut. Picture this: Two bare-chested boys embraced in a kiss. A third person, whose face is not shown but is also bare-chested, stands off to the side with his hand on the head of one boy. Below the vivid color photo, which is posted on the Internet home page of a group called “AltKids,” is a caption explaining that the group provides a service “in which gay and bisexual kids can find partners or friends of the same sexual orientation.” To post messages on the site’s “Alternative Connections” page, users must register not just their name and age, but their height, weight, hair color, eye color, address and phone number.

Until last week, after West Seattle citizen activist Linda Jordan and other concerned parents complained to the school board, this on-line “service” was advertised on the “links” section of the National Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Teachers Network (GLSTN). GLSTN provides support to a chapter in Washington state, many of whose members are employed by the Seattle School District’s Sexual Minority Advisory Council. The Council promoted the national GLSTN office’s web site in literature made available to schoolchildren.

Prior to Jordan’s complaint, Seattle students had unlimited access to the GLSTN site and to the smutty AltKids link. After viewing the photos, the district’s legal counsel, Mark Green, contacted the national GLSTN office, which has removed the AltKids link from its site pending further investigation. Green told me that district computer technicians have blocked the site from public school computers. Kudos to Jordan for making the schools safer. But where were all the district’s guardians? What other exploitative materials are children being exposed to in the name of teaching tolerance and self-respect?

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MassResistance first posted audiotapes of a sordid 2000 GLSEN conference advocating “fisting” for young high school students last June. Jim Hoft revisits the scandal.

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  1. #101
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:03 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Suppose I’m walking around Seattle, like I do, and a handsome man catches my eye. I do not make a conscious choice “that man is attractive and I choose to find him attractive. Unless you, and many other heterosexual males here, are going to claim that you made a conscious choice to find your wives attractive, I submit to you that you understand this notion quite well, but feign ignorance because it’s politically expedient.

    That depends, are we talking about Tom Brady here? :smile:

  2. #102
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:03 pm, swede said:

    Curious, Jeddite how your sexual preference became the topic of the thread. I thought the topic was pushing a sexual agenda of any sort on children, upon which we apparently agree.

    Regarding your personal preferences:

    I. Do. Not. Care. Give it a rest already.

  3. #103
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:07 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    I didn’t bother to respond to that particular statement. If you define something as “subconscious” it must eventually work its way into your conscious or you wouldn’t be consciously aware of it.

    And at that point you choose to act or not on the impulse or thought or whatever you want to call it. Still, ultimately a choice.

    Please don’t tell me you have “subconsciously” engaged in sex with a male or a female. No, you thought about it and it was a “conscious” decision, or choice…

    On December 4th, 2009 at 4:48 pm, Jeddite said:

    Curiously also, you didnt even attempt to refute my claims that subconscious physical attraction isnt a conscious choice.

  4. #104
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, Jeddite said:

    Curious, Jeddite how your sexual preference became the topic of the thread. I thought the topic was pushing a sexual agenda of any sort on children, upon which we apparently agree.

    Regarding your personal preferences:

    I. Do. Not. Care. Give it a rest already.

    Curious indeed. Since somehow I made the galling mistake of trying to draw attention to the fact that I, an individual homosexual, also very much disagree with Kevin Jennings’s choice of reading material for school children.

    I’m going to go right ahead and conclude that you haven’t read many comments here, because this thread isnt about me, nor was it intended to be. However, if I’m going to be snarled at for the howling crime of being gay on the internet, then I am going to defend myself against my accusers.

  5. #105
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:08 pm, purealchemy said:

    Okay, Jeddite, what well known males do you think are hawt?
    How about Barack Obama? :shock:

  6. #106
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:09 pm, Jeddite said:

    Please don’t tell me you have “subconsciously” engaged in sex with a male or a female. No, you thought about it and it was a “conscious” decision, or choice…

    Yeah, I didn’t say that. Might be hard to find, since I didn’t say it.

    Being attracted to an individual isn’t a choice. Acting on that attraction is a choice. I can see how you might be willing to confuse to the two.

  7. #107
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, purealchemy said:

    Curious indeed. Since somehow I made the galling mistake of trying to draw attention to the fact that I, an individual homosexual, also very much disagree with Kevin Jennings’s choice of reading material for school children

    .
    I read it! He should get snaps for that, don’t ya think?

  8. #108
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:10 pm, Jeddite said:

    Okay, Jeddite, what well known males do you think are hawt?
    How about Barack Obama? :shock:

    Now, now, miss. As you saw swede observe, I am not to be flagrantly broadcasting my sexuality in a hilarious attempt to make this discussion about me.

    I think I shall call it The ZeroAngel Effect.

  9. #109
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, twofoot said:

    Okay, Jeddite, what well known males do you think are hawt?
    How about Barack Obama?

    Um, no. No, no, no. There is only so far a thread can be allowed to devolve. And that is just way past that point. lol

  10. #110
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, purealchemy said:

    What’s wrong with the thread becoming about you? Why not?
    I was just trying to lighten the mood a bit.

  11. #111
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, Patronedheart said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 4:59 pm, twofoot said:
    And conservative! And a monstrous sexual deviant pervert child seducer with AIDS who exists only to ruin “the family” and corrupt society. And a whole host of hilarious, negative labels ascribed to me by total strangers because I do not engage in sexual behaviors with those that theyGod deems correct. =]
    Sorry, madam, it just wouldn’t work out between us. =[

    Sorry, but He condemned it, not us:

    1 Cor. 6:9
    Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

    http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/6-9.htm

  12. #112
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:12 pm, purealchemy said:

    Do you have any Cher albums? :grin:

  13. #113
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:14 pm, twofoot said:

    Um, Patronedheart? Think perhaps you need to have a look at who said what. What you have quoted there makes it look like I said that when in fact I was quoting what somebody else said. Try again please.

  14. #114
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:17 pm, Patronedheart said:

    sorry twofoot. cut and paste can be a pain if you don’t pay attention to what you’re doing.

  15. #115
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:18 pm, Jeddite said:

    I thought about doing a brief synopsis of the comments thus far, but a thorough job would require more effort than I can dedicate in my 60 second bursts between diligently working on a busy Friday afternoon and commenting.

    COMMENT: Kevin Jennings is disgusting
    COMMENT: I agree. Why doesnt the gay community speak out against this?
    JEDDITE: I’m gay and I object to this reading material
    COMMENT: THE GAYS DONT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT
    JEDDITE: I’m speaking out. This certainly isn’t what I want.
    COMMENT: PERVERT
    COMMENT: CHILD PREDATOR!!
    Chapoutier: Sup all, I’m Chap
    COMMENT: Y MUST U FLAUNT UR SEXUALITY HERE JEDDITE
    JEDDITE: Well, I’m really not, just wanted to point out that I also ob…
    COMMENT: DEVIANT
    COMMENT: We’re not going to accept your choice of lifestyle, Jeddite
    JEDDITE: I wasn’t really asking you to do that…
    COMMENT: THIS DISCUSSION ISNT ABOUT YOUR SINFUL SEXUALITY JEDDITE STOP THROWING IT IN OUR FACES
    purealchemy: Hi, Jeddite!
    JEDDITE: Hello there, ma’am.
    COMMENT: HEINOUS MONSTER
    COMMENT: All gay people think the same way and act the same way and they are obnoxious and hostile to non-gays
    Jeddite: *grown* =]

    and on it goes :D

  16. #116
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:19 pm, frostrt said:

    Okay, Jeddite, what well known males do you think are hawt?
    How about Barack Obama?

    —————————————

    Given his political/social views, I’d give Jeddite better taste in men than that . . . in fact, it’s kind of a shame he’s “playing for the other team” . . .

  17. #117
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:21 pm, twofoot said:

    Pretty much sums it up Jeddite.

  18. #118
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:22 pm, Jeddite said:

    @purealchemy

    This is for you, ma’am/

    CAVEAT: IT TOTALLY MIGHT BE SOME GAY PROPAGANDA. IT IS TOTALLY NOT SHARKS WITH HUMAN TEETH.

  19. #119
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:23 pm, purealchemy said:

    . in fact, it’s kind of a shame he’s “playing for the other team”

    That happpens a lot!

  20. #120
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:25 pm, purealchemy said:

    This is for you, ma’am/

    For me???? Oh boy!
    But I like totally do not understand it.
    :sad:

  21. #121
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, frostrt said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:23 pm, purealchemy said:
    . in fact, it’s kind of a shame he’s “playing for the other team”
    That happpens a lot!

    ————————————–

    Yup, if they’re not married or living with their parents . . .

  22. #122
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, purealchemy said:

    and on it goes :D

    Jeddite has been exceedingly long suffering here.

  23. #123
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:36 pm, Jeddite said:

    Jeddite has been exceedingly long suffering here.

    Now, now. There is to be no pity parties for Jeddite, because he won’t attend and that would be very rude.

    I knew what I was getting into when this whirlwind of opinions and egos got started. I am certainly not the only homosexual who objects to exposing young children to sexually graphic reading material (dare even I say propaganda), and I’m not likely the only gaydudebro at MM.com who holds this opinion. I may just be the only one with a post count at this blog greater than 5.

  24. #124
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:40 pm, swede said:

    COMMENT: I know at least one gay person who is a rather narcissistic troll, who much like zero delights in persecution – perceived or otherwise. Yaaaawwn. Have fun. Out.

  25. #125
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:41 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    Awww hell, I aint even getting into the middle of this one. Except to say, regardless of sexuality Kevin Jennings wears the stamp of “Incompetent At Any Speed” for one huge reason:

    Obama picked him

    Obama has constantly proven himself incapable of surrounding himself with anything except small little people with small little agendas pushing their small little ideas down everyone’s throat because they are incapable of imagining anything outside of their small little world.

  26. #126
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:42 pm, purealchemy said:

    I know at least one gay person who is a rather narcissistic troll, who much like zero delights in persecution – perceived or otherwise

    I’d prefer to not have to recall all the narcissistic straight male trolls I’ve dated.

  27. #127
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:50 pm, Cadman said:

    Patronedheart said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 4:59 pm, twofoot said:
    And conservative! And a monstrous sexual deviant pervert child seducer with AIDS who exists only to ruin “the family” and corrupt society. And a whole host of hilarious, negative labels ascribed to me by total strangers because I do not engage in sexual behaviors with those that theyGod deems correct. =]
    Sorry, madam, it just wouldn’t work out between us. =[

    Sorry, but He condemned it, not us:

    1 Cor. 6:9
    Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

    Actually, the bible says that, the bible which was written by man. You trust that the the wording is correct and that it is God’s will.

  28. #128
    On December 4th, 2009 at 5:53 pm, Jeddite said:

    COMMENT: I know at least one gay person who is a rather narcissistic troll, who much like zero delights in persecution – perceived or otherwise. Yaaaawwn. Have fun. Out.

    That’s clever – I’m a troll now. I’d find that barb insulting if it wasn’t so overused as to lose all meaning. But you have fun there, ace.

  29. #129
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:01 pm, chapoutier said:

    But to knowingly, willfully choose something that is self-destructive and fatal is hardly acting responsibly.

    Heterosexual females have a far greater chance than lesbians of contracting most STDs, including AIDS. Lesbians also face zero risk of death during childbirth.

    Have you condemned your wife, WarEagle, for choosing the potentially more self destructive and deadly path? Did you call out her irresponsible behavior when she bore your children?

  30. #130
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:07 pm, purealchemy said:

    Chaps, I don’t think this is one of your best postings. Especially the part about lesbians not dying from childbirth.

  31. #131
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:09 pm, zeroangel said:

    Deja vu?

    I don’t have time for this nonsense tonight.

    Jeddite:

    See you in HELL!!!~~~

  32. #132
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:10 pm, purealchemy said:

    LOL

  33. #133
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:11 pm, Cadman said:

    Lesbians also face zero risk of death during childbirth.

    It is rumored that men also have a near zero percentile of death during childbirth – both straight and homosexual.

  34. #134
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:12 pm, purealchemy said:

    I don’t have time for this nonsense tonight

    zero doesn’t have time because he’s too busy beating me for the ten thousandth time for what I said once about atheists.

  35. #135
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:13 pm, chapoutier said:

    Chaps, I don’t think this is one of your best postings. Especially the part about lesbians not dying from childbirth.

    Well…I hadn’t consider AI. That’s true. Point still stands that female heterosexual sex is far more deadly than lesbian sex. That seems to be WarEagle’s criterion for condemning male homosexuality, or at least the one he uses to tiptoe around the fact that he simply thinks it’s immoral.

  36. #136
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:14 pm, chapoutier said:

    It is rumored that men also have a near zero percentile of death during childbirth – both straight and homosexual.

    I am not sure about that. I hear the woman’s hormones are running pretty high.

  37. #137
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:20 pm, purealchemy said:

    LOL!

  38. #138
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:21 pm, purealchemy said:

    Point still stands that female heterosexual sex is far more deadly than lesbian sex.

    But if women only have lesbian sex, there will be no more people.
    Not such a valuable point either.

  39. #139
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:23 pm, purealchemy said:

    Then they can’t make another more little lesbians. :cry:

  40. #140
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:25 pm, chapoutier said:

    pure,

    Bad for society, perhaps, but not SELF destrucive. Nor, in a strict sense, deadly.

  41. #141
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:26 pm, purealchemy said:

    Oh puhleeze!

  42. #142
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:30 pm, purealchemy said:

    Reminds me of an expression: Your decision-making tree has its roots in the air.

  43. #143
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:31 pm, chapoutier said:

    Oh puhleeze what? How would you define SELF destructive?

  44. #144
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:37 pm, shimauma2 said:

    Particularly ones that make a point of telling others where they are spending eternity.

    no conservative here said anyone is spending eternity anywhere(note that I said *conservative*) as true conservatives know that decision is up to God. Just because those of us familiar with Him bother to point out what He’s mentioned as far as how He handles what He considers sin, does not mean we are condemning anyone.

    Again, everyone’s eternity is up to Him, but He did mention when He was on earth that anyone who would lead a little child astray would better have a millstone hung around his neck and thrown into the sea than face judgement. Kevin Jennings will have a lot of explaining to do if he doesn’t rethink his agenda.

    The

  45. #145
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:42 pm, purplepeep said:

    Jeddite said:

    If I choose to hook up with Random Guy A, that is indeed a choice. That I have a subconscious physical attraction to Random Guy A is not a choice.

    I think that’s a fair and honest statement, Jeddite.

    I would go a bit further and look at the “subconscious” aspect, though, in the area of the impact of cumalitive psychological experiences, especially at an early age. For example, I’ve found it almost a constant from knowing homosexual women that there are instances of various abuse – usually childhood – which they’ve often blocked out to some degree or another. It’s kind of a matter of “once burned, twice shy” in the ability to have normal sexual relations.

    I think it’s fair to say you’ll find this also at play in other areas of life, e.g. common phobias rooted in experiences we might repress which may affect our daily lives to some degree or another. I believe in such instances, including homosexual inclination, that therapy and treatment can be of help if a person so chooses to change his/her life.

  46. #146
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:58 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Yes, once again, Chappy demonstrates total, yet believable, stupidity. We all know the life expectancy for monogamous heterosexual women is far, far, far lower than that of homosexual males. If in doubt, call the CDC and ask.

    This is the reason why nursing homes are full of geriatric homosexual “queens” instead of grandmothers…

    If you thought Chappy couldn’t get any more stupid, just stick around and he’ll prove you wrong each time!

    He is a Marxist. He doesn’t have to make sense!

  47. #147
    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:58 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Another hijacked thread. Sigh.

  48. #148
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:00 pm, Leatherneck said:

    In the New Age, there is no morality. Teaching children that sex outside of marriage between a man and woman is Ok is going against G-d’s orders.

    Of course, there is no G-d to the New Agers. They can be their own god, or they can be as G-d. It is the oldest lie in the book.

    This is only one example of what happened before the flood of Noah. G-d will not be mocked forever.

  49. #149
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:00 pm, Jeddite said:

    There’s that WarEagle82 charm, grace, and civility that gives me the necessary moral ground to tell others, particularly of a different viewpoint, to “grow up”.

    Far be it from me to play Heterosexual Match-Maker, but have you thought about asking out shimauma2? I think you two would really hit it off.
    =]

  50. #150
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:03 pm, Jeddite said:

    charm, grace, and civility that gives mehim the necessary moral ground to tell others, particularly of a different viewpoint, to “grow up”.

    Curses, foiled again!

  51. #151
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:05 pm, chapoutier said:

    wareagle,

    Unless your wife can change sexes at will, your comparison of the life expectancy of a hetero female to a homosexual male is pretty pointless and dusingenuous and a pretty pathetic attempt to avoid the truth that your wife chose the more self destructive sexual path. But I guess we can assume by her choice in spouse, she is a glutton for punishment

  52. #152
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:06 pm, Jeddite said:

    Another hijacked thread. Sigh.

    Now, now, the subject here is about Kevin Jennings and the gay agenda and the comments have largely been centered around just that.

  53. #153
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:06 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Jeddite,

    You don’t have to like the fact that your lifestyle will statistically greatly decrease your life expectancy but at least be honest enough to admit it.

    I don’t really know a lot of old homosexuals. I do a lot of young ones who are now dead…

  54. #154
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:07 pm, purplepeep said:

    Jeddite said:
    Curses, foiled again!

    Now stealing from The Red Baron without attribution is definitely immoral and shameless.

  55. #155
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:07 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    No, Chappy, it is conversing with you that is pointless. This is mainly because you can never seem to get the point…

    Go and color the pages of your Wine Spectator now, like a good little boy…

  56. #156
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:08 pm, Regulus said:

    Michelle says:

    Would Barack and Michelle Obama approve of their daughters reading this in their classrooms?

    - Why do you think they send their wastrel spawn to private schools?

  57. #157
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:14 pm, Jeddite said:

    You don’t have to like the fact that your lifestyle will statistically greatly decrease your life expectancy but at least be honest enough to admit it.

    You might want to point me in the direction of where I said that. I’ve observed that you have a tendency to put words in other’s mouths. (There’s a gay innuendo here, but I just cant grasp it.)

    You also seem to be ascribing your views of a population to me, an individual, whom you know nothing about. You have no idea how I conduct myself sexually (DUR DUR DUR I DONT WANT 2 KNOW JEDDITE DUR DUR DUR), but you see fit to acribe certain behaviors to me because you believe in certain stereotypes, and, damnit, even if I do not demonstrate those stereotypes, you’ll be damned if that doesn’t stop you for attributing those stereotypes to me anyway.

    But take heart, I actually do not completely disagree with you on the entire matter. Rather, because of my sexuality, I take great care in perserving my own health and safety. You’d look pretty foolish if I succumb to heart failure at age 94, eh? Decades of evil, sinful, homosexual acts, only to not die to it.

    I’ll make you a wager though: regardless of the cause, whoever of us dies first, the one still living can attend the other’s funeral and perform a classic Nelson Muntz “Ha Ha”

    I don’t really know a lot of old homosexuals. I do a lot of young ones who are now dead…

    I submit to you that your specious, anecdotal posit is countered by the claim that you don’t know that many homosexuals period.

  58. #158
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:19 pm, chapoutier said:

    WarEagle, you dont have to like the fact that your wife’s lifestyle will statistically decrease her life expectancy but at least be honest enough to admit it.

  59. #159
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:20 pm, purplepeep said:

    Jeddite said:

    “I do a lot of young ones who are now dead…”

    I submit to you that your specious, anecdotal posit is countered by the claim that you don’t know that many homosexuals period.

    Y’know, Jeddite, I really woulda had more fun with that quote if I were of a mind to do so. :)

  60. #160
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:25 pm, purealchemy said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:00 pm, Jeddite said:
    There’s that WarEagle82 charm, grace, and civility that gives me the necessary moral ground to tell others, particularly of a different viewpoint, to “grow up”.

    I was just thinking on the way home that charm, grace and civility describe Jeddite. Now, if only zeroangel could be more like Jeddite. zero only has to deal with the “stigma” of being am atheist. Jeddite has that AND being gay.
    If zero had had to field a tenth of what was thrown at Jeddite this afternoon, zero would have turned inside out and back 50 times, imploded sending shards of vile accusations in all directions.

    Far be it from me to play Heterosexual Match-Maker, but have you thought about asking out shimauma2? I think you two would really hit it off.

    ROFLMAO!

  61. #161
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:27 pm, Jeddite said:

    If you read only one Jeddite comment in this thread, make it this one.

    Eh? Eh?

  62. #162
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:30 pm, chapoutier said:

    Eh? Eh?

    Oh great. A CANADIAN gay… Take your back bacon and get out of here.

  63. #163
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:32 pm, purealchemy said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:27 pm, Jeddite said:
    If you read only one Jeddite comment in this thread, make it this one.

    Eh? Eh

    I did but I still don’t understand what this has to do with the dialogue.
    But I always take things too literally and personally as Chaps knows.

  64. #164
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:34 pm, purplepeep said:

    Now, on Kevin Jennings, the mastermind behind the notorious “Fistgate” scandals – he should have been behind bars a long time ago for that alone.

  65. #165
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:39 pm, Jeddite said:

    Oh great. A CANADIAN gay… Take your back bacon and get out of here.

    Hey man, them’s fighting words. And you can represent yourself in court after all is said and done. Talk about your unfair advantages.

    ((( NOT CANADIAN )))

    I did but I still don’t understand what this has to do with the dialogue.
    But I always take things too literally and personally as Chaps knows.

    Just trying to lighten things up around here. =\ GRAWWWWWWR

  66. #166
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:51 pm, purealchemy said:

    Hey man, them’s fighting words. And you can represent yourself in court after all is said and done. Talk about your unfair advantages

    But you are in Seattle. Dangerously close! Just like my beloved Kingfish.

    Just trying to lighten things up around here. =\ GRAWWWWWWR

    So do you have Cher albums or not???
    Enquiring minds need to know!
    And what in the hell is that GRAWWWWW stuff?

  67. #167
    On December 4th, 2009 at 7:57 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    What does this have to do with reading, writing, and arithmetic?

    If you can’t think of an immediate, solid answer, then stuff like this doesn’t belong in schools.

    Period.

  68. #168
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:00 pm, Jeddite said:

    So do you have Cher albums or not???
    Enquiring minds need to know!
    And what in the hell is that GRAWWWWW stuff?

    Why would I have Cher albums?

    I do believe I provided you with a handful of links for a sampling of my tastes in music back there in the ZeroAngel v. Christmas entry.

  69. #169
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:04 pm, purealchemy said:

    Why would I have Cher albums?

    I was joking with you about gay stereotypes. That is one of them.

    I do believe I provided you with a handful of links for a sampling of my tastes in music back there in the ZeroAngel v. Christmas entry.

    Yes, you did which was most interesting.

  70. #170
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:06 pm, purealchemy said:

    I do believe I provided you with a handful of links for a sampling of my tastes in music back there in the ZeroAngel v. Christmas entry

    They sound like good music for massage therapy.

  71. #171
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:14 pm, purealchemy said:

    the ZeroAngel v. Christmas entry.

    As an atheist, how do you feel about Christmas?

  72. #172
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:15 pm, Jeddite said:

    I was joking with you about gay stereotypes. That is one of them.

    I know what it is. I’m exercising some of that feigning ignorance when it is politically expedient to do so that I see demonstrated by others here when it suits their agenda.

  73. #173
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:16 pm, purealchemy said:

    Wow, I like your style.

  74. #174
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:19 pm, purealchemy said:

    Are you familiar with Quentin Crisp?

  75. #175
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:24 pm, Jeddite said:

    I am not familiar with this person, no.

    Also: SEXUALLY GRAPHIC LITERATURE IS INAPPROPRIATE AS READING MATERIAL FOR YOUNG CHILDREN

  76. #176
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:28 pm, purealchemy said:

    Quentin and “you know who” If Quentin was asked if he believed in God, and he was with someone who he knew wouldn’t take offence he simply replied “No”

    However during one of his stage shows while in New Orleans he gave what was probably his longest and most involved response when asked this question.

    Do you believe in God?

    Quentin :

    “Well now the last time you know you was mentioned I began by saying I wouldn’t like to say anything which would give offence, and someone in the audience said, ‘why stop now’.

    But this is still something that worries me so if at any moment anyone finds anything I say offensive they have only to jump up and down and make a scene and we will stop.

    I believe like most people not that which logic can convince me but what my nature inclines me believe. This is so with nearly everybody. I am unable to believe in a God susceptible to prayer as peticine. It does not seem to me to be sufficiently humble to imagine that whatever force keeps the planets turning in the heavens is going to stop what its doing to give me a bicycle with 3 speeds.

    But if God is the universe which encloses the universe? Or if God is the cell within the cell? Or if God is the cause behind the cause? Then this I accept absolutely. And if prayer is a way of aligning your body with the forces that flow through the universe? Then prayer I accept.

    But there is a worrying aspect about the idea of God. Like witch craft or the signs of the zodiac or any of these other things the burden is placed elsewhere. This is what I don’t like. You see to me you are the heroes of this hour. I do not think the earth was ever meant to be your home. I do not see the sky as a canopy held over your heads by cherubs or see the ground as a carpet laid at your feet.

    You used to live an easy lying down life in the sea. But your curiosity and your courage prompted you to lift your head out of the sea, and gasp this fierce element in which we live. They are seated on Mars with their little green arms folded saying ‘we can be reasonably certain there is no life on earth, because there the atmosphere is oxygen, which is so harsh it corrupts metal’. But you learned to breath it.

    Further more you crawled out of the sea, and you walked up and down the beach for centuries until your thigh bones where thick enough to walk on land. It was a mistake but you did it.

    Once you have this view of your past, not that it was handed to you but that you did it then your view of the future will change. This terror you have of the atom bomb will pass. Something will arise which will breath radiation. You learned to breathe oxygen. So you don’t have to worry.

    Don’t keep looking into the sky to see what is happening, embrace the future. All you have to do about the future is what you did about the past. Rely on your curiosity and your courage and ride through the night.”

  77. #177
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:29 pm, purealchemy said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:24 pm, Jeddite said:
    I am not familiar with this person, no

    How can this be possible???

    Are you feigning again?

  78. #178
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:33 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Point still stands that female heterosexual sex is far more deadly than lesbian sex.

    :shock:
    Well then, dip me in chocolate and throw me to the lesbians! :mrgreen:

  79. #179
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:33 pm, Jeddite said:

    No, that was sincerity. To keep things interesting, I refrained from checking him out (LOL GAY INNUENDO LOL) on Google after you mentioned him.

  80. #180
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:34 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:19 pm, purealchemy said:
    Are you familiar with Quentin Crisp?

    Ah, The Naked Civil Servant. John Hurt killed in that role.

  81. #181
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:35 pm, purealchemy said:

    I would challenge everyone here to read the above discourse.

    Iconoclast indeed.

  82. #182
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm, purealchemy said:

    Ah, The Naked Civil Servant. John Hurt killed in that role

    Thank you, Rogue Cheddar. I knew you would come through.
    John Hurt is amazing.

  83. #183
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:38 pm, purealchemy said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:33 pm, Jeddite said:
    No, that was sincerity. To keep things interesting, I refrained from checking him out (LOL GAY INNUENDO LOL) on Google after you mentioned him

    I believe you. Then this moment will be special for us, no?

  84. #184
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:40 pm, Jeddite said:

    wink wink nudge nudge

  85. #185
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:40 pm, purealchemy said:

    There is SO much richness here in what he has to say, so much humanity, so much sensitivity on so many levels.
    So much respect for the old and the new.

  86. #186
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:47 pm, purealchemy said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:24 pm, Jeddite said:
    I am not familiar with this person, no

    YOU LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  87. #187
    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:49 pm, purealchemy said:

    “Well now the last time you know you was mentioned I began by saying I wouldn’t like to say anything which would give offence, and someone in the audience said, ‘why stop now’

    My point exactly!

    There is no such thing as hijacking a thread!

  88. #188
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:05 pm, purealchemy said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 8:40 pm, Jeddite said:
    wink wink nudge nudge

    Thomas Crown Affair?

  89. #189
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:10 pm, purealchemy said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 6:58 pm, happyscrapper said:
    Another hijacked thread. Sigh

    NO WAY!

    we need happy here!!!!!

  90. #190
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:17 pm, purealchemy said:

    December 4th, 2009 at 8:33 pm, Jeddite said:
    No, that was sincerity. To keep things interesting, I refrained from checking him out (LOL GAY INNUENDO LOL) on Google after you mentioned him

    You TOO cute!

    XXOXOOOXOXOOOXOOXOO

  91. #191
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:19 pm, purealchemy said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:17 pm, zeroangel said:
    shimauma2:

    Oh geez, I was just about to retire for the evening and now zero shows up.

  92. #192
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:21 pm, Jeddite said:

    @purealchemy

    Ma’am, there are unconfirmed reports that you might be hitting the Christmas brandy a little heavy tonight. =]

  93. #193
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:25 pm, purealchemy said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:21 pm, Jeddite said:
    @purealchemy

    Ma’am, there are unconfirmed reports that you might be hitting the Christmas brandy a little heavy tonight. =]

    I am having my usual gin and tonic.

  94. #194
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:28 pm, purealchemy said:

    zero:

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  95. #195
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:29 pm, Jeddite said:

    I’m drinking lukewarm, heavily-diluted McDonald’s sweet tea. =]

    with some of this

  96. #196
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:29 pm, zeroangel said:

    Jeddite:

    I loved your comments summary above. I’m modding it to fit my threads. Wait one… almost done.

  97. #197
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:34 pm, purealchemy said:

    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:29 pm, zeroangel said:
    Jeddite:

    I loved your comments summary above. I’m modding it to fit my threads. Wait one… almost done

    I don’t like the path here.

    What is moddimg and threads?

    Waiting for Jeddite to betray me.

  98. #198
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:35 pm, zeroangel said:

    Jeddite:

    Wha cha think?

    COMMENT: Why can’t they leave Christmas alone!
    COMMENT: I agree. Why do all atheists hate Christmas?
    ZEROANGEL: I’m an atheist and I celebrate Christmas.
    COMMENT: ATHEISTS HATE GOD AND JESUS BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO SIN!
    ZEROANGEL: I’m sorry, I’m a father, a husband, an Iraq War vet, and I am a decent person.
    COMMENT: YOU’LL BE SORRY ON JUDGMENT DAY!
    COMMENT: WHY DO YOU HAVE TO INSULT CHRISTIANS?
    Chapoutier: Actually, zero is right, and WE82 is a moron.
    COMMENT: Y DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO HIJACK A THREAD ZERO?
    ZEROANGEL: I’ve told you guys a million times, the day you stop stereotyping atheists is the day I stop posting concerning this topic…
    COMMENT: ONLY A FOOL SEZ THERE IS NO GOD!
    COMMENT: We aren’t going to tolerate you trying to take down our Christmas trees, zero!
    ZEROANGEL: I wasn’t really asking you to do that…
    COMMENT: THIS DISCUSSION ISNT ABOUT YOU ZERO! WHY DO YOU KEEP HIJACKING TREADS?
    Jeddite: Hey Zero, I got some marshmallows for the fires of hell, you in?
    ZEROANGEL: Hey dude, sure!
    COMMENT: HEINOUS MONSTER
    COMMENT: All atheists think and act the same way, they are hostile communists that want to take away our nation and religion.
    ZEROANGEL: *sigh*

  99. #199
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:36 pm, zeroangel said:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/29/sigh-tis-the-season-to-start-targeting-christmas-again/comment-page-7/#comment-852035

    In case zero ever shows his face here…

    you should be more like Jeddite.

    He is a better person than you.

    You are a piece of work, pure.

  100. #200
    On December 4th, 2009 at 9:37 pm, purealchemy said:

    On

    December 4th, 2009 at 9:29 pm, zeroangel said:
    Jeddite:

    I loved your comments summary above. I’m modding it to fit my threads. Wait one… almost done

    Reading between the lines…

    you guys are two peas in a pod.

    And you have both broken my heart.


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