Torch-wielding leftists at UC Berkeley attack chancellor’s home
This is what happens when you coddle liberal tantrum-throwers:
Eight people were in custody Saturday after a crowd of angry protesters broke windows and threw burning torches at UC Berkeley Chancellor Robert Birgeneau’s campus residence in protest of fee hikes and budget cuts, authorities said.
As many as 75 people – some of them carrying torches – surrounded the mansion, known as University House, on the north side of campus off Hearst Avenue at about 11:15 p.m. Friday, police said.
The crowd, including a man taken into custody in a university protest a day earlier, chanted, “No justice, no peace,” and began smashing planters, windows and lights. Several hurled their torches at the building, said campus spokesman Dan Mogulof.
Birgeneau was sleeping at the time and was awakened by his wife, Mary Catherine, Mogulof said. They were frightened, but unharmed, he said.
“These are criminals, not activists,” Birgeneau said in a statement issued Saturday morning. “The attack at our home was extraordinarily frightening and violent. My wife and I genuinely feared for our lives.”
Via SFGAte.com.
The Daily Cal has pictures and more details of the barbarians at the gate:
Between 40 and 75 people marched to Birgeneau’s home near the northwest corner of campus at about 11 p.m. Friday night. Some wielded torches that were allegedly thrown at police, while others broke the outside lighting to the house, overturned planters, damaged “impact resistant” windows on the house and scattered garbage brought from a nearby student housing cooperative, police said.
…Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said in a statement Saturday that the attack was an act of terrorism. “California will not tolerate any type of terrorism against any leaders including educators. The attack on Chancellor Birgeneau’s home is a criminal act and those who participated will be prosecuted under the fullest extent of the law. Debate is the foundation of democracy and I encourage protestors to find peaceful and productive ways to express their opinions,” he said in the statement.
It’s just another example of the unhinged, left-wing vigilantism that the dinosaur media elitists who smear conservative Tea Party activists as a frightful “angry mob” gripped with “insane rage” will ignore.
“Social justice” in action.
Left-wing SEIU mob beats black conservative …
Left-wing mob punches conservative Campaign for Liberty witness with camera…
Left-wing ANSWER mob attacks anti-illegal immigration protesters…
Left-wing mob shuts down speech at Columbia University…
Left-wing mob shuts down speech at UNC-Chapel Hill…
Left-wing mob blocks military shipments in Olympia, WA…
Left-wing mob illegally trespasses and breaks into a home in Baltimore in the name of “social justice”…
Left-wing mob chases Christian evangelists out of San Francisco’s Castro district:
Left-wing mob stomps on elderly Prop. 8 supporter’s cross:
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Related: At Copenhagen, hundreds of global warming warriors were arrested after throwing rocks and breaking windows to save the planet.
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Well when you birth/feed the BEAST the BEAST will eventually eat you and the reality is these are ANIMALS that WE are discussing. The left BREEDS ANIMALS and then they are surprised when they act like the ANIMALS they are!
When is the Night of Long Knives II going to take place? Things are getting very similar to Germany in the 1930s. We will see if the authorities walk the talk. I thought the Democratic party was the feel me, touch me party. Their true communist thug ways are becoming very evident. I’d like to see that happen here in the south.
One of these days, people are going to wake up, and realize that the liberals are the domestic terrorists.
You’re precisely right, Michelle, in noting that this is what these universities have sown. University administrators defend and rationalize this kind of criminal behavior when it’s aimed at anyone with whom they disagree — most likely non-leftists. They have allowed these budding fascists to shut down conservative speaker after conservative speaker with violence and threats of violence. So now the violence has turned toward them. That they didn’t know the guns of leftist tyranny would eventually be aimed at them (and everyone else who doesn’t submit) tells us more about the state of “critical thinking” at today’s university than anything else. Tyrants always eat their own, eventually. Our universities’ “great thinkers” should know that.
*Expect plenty more of this during the reign of P-BO, as they now feel empowered; And don’t forget that they have been frequently encouraged by the comments of Pelosi, Reid, Durbin, et al; Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder, and like in the 60′s, its’ ugliness is in the forefront; Order will be restored in due time by conservatism, just unsure by what means this time, but it is sure to be more painfull thanks to these numnuts running the country.
They were just getting in Birgeneau’s face. Not for being conservative or even a Republican, but just for exhibiting, to a small degree, that you don’t get something for nothing. They really can’t stand that. I guess it’s safe to say that Birgeneau isn’t a big 2nd Amendment guy. Let them bring it to someone who is.
Torches? I thought Berkeley outlawed fire to “fight global warming.”
My, my, what a surprise! Liberals acting badly?
Hundreds of tea-parties over several months and NO acts of violence by the tea-party people. Then you have the liberal side. Violence is guaranteed wherever more than a few of them gather.
It looks as if the liberals are getting a taste of their own medicine. Now they’re understanding someone has to pay for their bleeding heart liberal causes. They have allowed the 3rd world country of California to become a liberal mecca and now the bankers have come to get their pound of flesh!
No Respect for Property. These people have not been taught “Boundaries?” I wonder if they already have criminal records?
AWW come on. The right wingers do this allll the time! What’s that? They don’t? But the MSM says they do. It’s a lie? Never mind.
The first idiot to show up on my doorstep with a torch get two in the chest. What’s the bag limit on terorist?
Terrorists. Sorry.
If I may borrow a line from the GREAT YOGI BERRA,”It’s DE JA VU all over again”… Hate breeds hate, for sure… In our ME, ME, ME society, they are being taken advantage of, and DEMAND their just rewards, that you worked for, by the way… If we continue to CODDLE the young in this COUNTRY, this is what you can expect in the future…
just a taste of what’s to come…don’t forget obdopo’s community civilian army is on the way…financially supported every bit as much as the military…buy ammo and supplies while and when you can.
It’s ok. The Bay Area Air Quality Management District didn’t declare a “Spare the Air” day yesterday. The Comissars at BAAQMD decreed that we couldn’t have our traditional fire in the fireplace on Thanksgiving, but it’s a-ok for the unruly mob to carry torches to the witch hunt.
Exactly. According to local news, the protestors were shouting “No justice, no peace.” Where have I heard that before? What does that have to do with raising fees and tuition? Is world peace now in jeopardy because an agitator at UCB has to get another Pell grant or a bigger Stafford loan to pay for his/her education?
like to know how many of these terrorists are students and how many are paid anarchists.
I’ll believe Arnie when he actually starts prosecuting these tantrum throwing leftist terrorists with the full weight of law, which I seriously doubt. Putting this BS down by using the National Guard (provided they are allowed to defend themselves with deadly force) would be a good start!
Why are those on the left always the ones to resort to violence? They always manage to leave a mess where ever they pass, but the radical conservative Tea Party crowd always seems to leave the places they gather at untouched or better than they find it. I wonder how much longer before the behavior of this spoiled children finally ignites the much needed watering of the tree of liberty.
These brats think they are “entitled” to a free lunch. This is what the libtard ideology has brought us. Yet, Pelosi accuses the right of violence!! What a turned-upside-down world we live in. Insanity seems to be in the majority right now. How do we fight them when we are not violent by nature??
These little punks deserve jail time…let’s see if that happens!!
Dr. Frankentstein waking up to realize what a monster he created.
Oh my God! My ox is being gored by my own people!
Good thing Berkeley is a “nuclear free zone”.
Another difference between conservatives and leftists – we joke about pitchforks and torches, and they actually bring them to the party.
In the words of the Obamessiah’s favorite “Christian” cleric, Berkeley’s CHICKENS! are coming HOME! to ROOST!!!!!
Raised in day care centers and told their whole lives about their specialness, what else can you expect from today’s entitled college students?
Conservatives need to relentlessly press for prosecutions in these types of incidents – we have to keep in mind that the mass majority of law officers on the streets support our cause, and they will be the ones called to these incidents. Nobody has to file charges for assault – the police MUST make the arrest, so long as someone calls for them.
Glad to see cameras, but there should be more – it looks like they even need cameras to watch the backs of other camera operators.
Most liberals aren’t evil but the liberalism that infects them, is.
This is why you keep a gun in your house to protect yourself — in this case an AK-47 or better. These juvenile thugs need more that an arrest and a wrist slap when they do damage and frighten people. (What if Birgeneau had been injured trying to hide from the attackers, or what if he had had a heart attack and died.)
I note that the DC Tea Party on 9/12/09 was completely non-violent as opposed to these leftist terrorists. Here is a realistic warning to the elected politicians, the authorities will either punish this behavior or the people will punish this behavior. You either exercise your responsibility under the law or vigilantism will erupt.
Entitled vs earned – the entitled are never satisfied with what they are given nor do they value the gifts. Those that earn what they have know the hard work which went into the achievement. It never pays to give freebies to those who demand it. These students found it more fun to destroy property than to attend classes. They should all be expelled.
Tea Party people would have cleaned up that mess before leaving. Of course, we wouldn’t have made a mess in the first place.
It is something strange to understand when people that set up “free zones” it never seems to stop that something from being brought into the zone. I pray this is not something that happens to Berkley though, there are some right minds there.
Trespassing.
Like most “riots”, some anarchists inciting “useful idiots” and gullible kids.
I wonder how long it is going to be before the left really mounts its own version of the ‘Tet Offensive’ in the US against those who don’t 100% cow-tow to their beliefs?
I remember wondering in January (as I left one of my favorite gun shops) why anyone who supported Obama (with a bumper sticker on their car), would still be going to a gun shop…but then the ‘inconvenient truth’ hit my brain in about a few seconds…
As we learned this year, the left just doesn’t have the numbers. They are a very loud, very violent, but very small minority. Obama gave them marching orders this summer to counter-protest the Tea Party events… Crickets. Tumbleweeds. Gentle breeze.
It’s interesting to note that the first time the “students” took over Wheeler Hall was Friday, November 20. This day coincides with the culminating event of a 3-day strike by UPTE, one of the University’s unions:
(http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/11/23/18630180.php).
It’s also interesting to note that the student demands include rehiring of union employees.
http://www.ucstrike.com/
http://savingucsd.ning.com/profiles/blogs/2-updates-about-ucb-student?xg_source=activity
The only progressive group missing from the starting line-up is ACORN.
I wonder sometimes if the rest of us shouldn’t take torches to all the universities for the mediocre educations we got at top dollar. It took me years to shake off the liberalism and to realize the shaft-job, second-rate education I got for so much money wasted.
From the NYT, Associated Press…
The eight were arrested on suspicion of rioting, threatening an education official, attempted burglary, attempted arson of an occupied building, felony vandalism and assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer.
They include two Berkeley students and one from the University of California, Davis, Mr. Mogulof said. Their ages ranged from 20 to 41, and at least three were women.
Throwing a lighted torch at a home where people are sleeping should be charged as attempted murder.
Let’s call it for what it is..
Nail-head.
That pretty much sums it up-Chancellor Robert Birgeneau is sowing what he reaped. But to attack an occupied structure-with fire no less-crosses a line the California authorities best not ignore-for all our sakes. But then California is one of the more dangerous places to defend yourself. We’ll see if the State or County charges and prosecutes this as a felony or yet another “but they had feelings” go away misdemeanor.
An AK-47 is not my Home Peace Keeper of choice but there other fine 7.62X39 platforms, 12ga and .357 that would have stopped a torch barer before he reached the front porch.
If (obligatory God Forbid >HERE<) you are ever forced to protect youself this you might want these guys on you side;
ASDI
These punks well may be the vanguard to the Night of the Long Knives.
Fortunately here in Tennessee if someone through a lit torch at me or my family from the position of an unruly mob, I would be justified in opening fire on them to protect my family & myself. That is of course why this type of thing doesn’t happen here.. Only a socialist/leftist state similar to Californication will have this type of problem ona constant basis.
BTW – did they also have pitchforks? A Berkeley education produces film-extra ready peasants?
My previous comment was made in partial jest, since I do not advocate such hideous violence. I DO advocate being physically and mentally fit–prepared–for more violence against these types of nutjobs. Taking back our universities and government may prove less peaceful than we think, and we need to be prepared to defend ourselves by great force if necessary.
This shouldn’t surprise anybody, this is Berkeley. The home of nutty left. If the main stream media finally gets around to it, it will be George W’s fault.
I keep seeing these “get a gun and get ready to use it” comments and I have to laugh. I own more than my fair share of guns and plan to buy more but advocating armed insurrection is really silly.
First of all, Americans are not Nazis. When we ordinary citizens say “us”, we include our police and military. Despite what is commonly portrayed in movies and TV, “That’s an order Colonel!” doesn’t fly in America. You will never ever see our military officers defending their actions by arguing that they were “just following orders” in front of any tribunal. Our military and police took an oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. It is their personal honor (and ours) that in the end will save our freedoms.
It is very possible that we are headed for revolution soon but it won’t be because a bunch of couch potatoes suddenly decide to storm the streets with their AK-47s. It’ll come when tens of millions of ordinary American (like on 9/12/09 but bigger) take to the streets peacefully to march on Washington and the state capitols on the same day to demand the heads of our politicians. The revolutionary moment will come when (if) our government panics and issues orders to our military and police to take violent measures against the peaceful crowds also known as their own family, friends, neighbors and countrymen. Will we see another “Saturday Night Massacre” in the Pentagon like we saw in the Justice Department under Nixon? That action alone would constitute a revolution. The government would then be in a very untenable position. What would they do? Call the police on the Army? No. Our government would collapse. Not the system, the government.
The survival of America under our current Constitutional is not dependent on THIS government surviving nor of either party existing. WE are America and our government exists at our tolerance. In the end, there would be no America for this government to govern once they stop shooting us in the streets. It won’t happen.
If you want a revolution, stop arguing for “sticking the barrel of a 50-caliber rifle up someone’s butt” as the solution to everything and think this through logically. We are winning here. Don’t screw it up.
(I really should activate my new blog. This is too long.)
Sad but true. It is becoming obvious that where liberal/socialist hold positions of power, civilization falls into a serious state of decay.
Think about my last comment and compare it to how our first revolution occurred. It was King George III taking away our British citizenship, dissolving our government and calling out the troops on us that turned into a revolution. We were just protesting. Isn’t that what is happening here? We are winning.
Correction (dammit!)
In the end, there would be no America for this government to govern once they
stopstart shooting us in the streets.Yeesh!
“My wife and I genuinely feared for our lives.”
In some states, that would be justification to come out armed with an intent to defend.
Pasadena Phil.. You are naive on this issue, & assume too much..
I joined a well organized militia, which contains several people with U.S. military experience.. If you don’t think a militia can be effective, you might want to look to the lessons of Afghanistan..
Lastly, a show of force by American’s is NOT SILLY.. It IS a form of protest.. I can’t believe you missed that..
Sun Tzu in the Art of War said:
“For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.”
You talk like you’re the only one with the sense to know that, & quite frankly it’s insulting..
The enemy must know that you are willing to to fight, & that they will not walk away unscathed..
You can call us silly all you want.. Just give us your home address for when they come for you.. We’ll be sure not to protect that house, because we wouldn’t want to offend you.. Then again, it sounds like you just might hand them your guns.
Yes, it was your comment is the one that triggered my monstrous post but I should have made it clear that I was addressing a bigger point than you were making. Makes it look like I was beating up on you which I wasn’t. But I read lots of comments at lots of blogs and there are lots of simple-minded nuts on our side too.
A revolution may get messy once the head has been cut off but Berkeley protests are preferable to having a global fascist government which is where we are headed. Once the head has been lopped off, we can deal with the quivering limbs. Our police and military will help us restore our democracy. But don’t throw away those guns. It is not likely that we will be using them but only because we have them in the first place.
When will Obama be having the protesters and the Chancellor over for some beers?
Someone should have told them the price was going up because they had to use the money to save a 1 1/2 inch beeble dungbug. They would have been thrilled to pay it. Especially if it had really hurt some farmer at the same time.
Leftists everywhere are violent
Yes, you need to exercise your rights and one of them is owning firearms.
Yes, Tennessee is one of them. If you fear for your life truly (And I think being set on fire meets the reasonable criteria), then those protesters could legally be fired upon.
Now me personally? If I was able to fire off some rounds without hitting anyone to scare them off, I would, because I wouldn’t want someone to die over the fact that they are brain damaged.. However if the torches kept advancing, I’d have no problem putting them down.. If its them or us that are going to be seriously injured or killed, I nominate “them”..
Let me just give you some contrast so that you can see how serious this is..
Judge re-funds ACORN by calling Congressional Action to DEFUND ACORN,(a well know criminal enterprise), “unconstitutional”.
Meanwhile,
Barack Obama (Formerly of Acorn), Harry Reid, & Pelosi among others are trying to force us to buy health insurance “or else”. THAT is what is unconstitutional..
If people keep take this lying down, these people will not only run you over like a team roller, but they will back over you a few times for good measure..
Silly? I guess you should have said that to the militia at Lexington and Concord in 1776. I think you are too complacent and smug about this.
Tell that to the police officers who seized guns from law-abiding citizens during Hurricane Katrina. They were “just following orders”.
That only works if the members of said military and police understand and respect the Constitution. Unfortunately kids these days are not taught that in public schools. Believe it or not, some folks in the military and police believe that might makes right. Thank God they’re not a majority, but there are some who abuse their office. That’s why this organization exists, because they see an alarming trend in our armed forces:
Were any of them seen sporting newly purchased red kerchiefs for the occasion?
Ah, the romance!
Torches? Torches??
I didn’t know that apes had the ability to make fire.
I wouldn’t even put that incident in the same category with the others cited above.
What happens in Berkeley, stays in Berkeley.
Secretly, the old hippie parents of those kids are bursting with pride for the actions of their children.
Very Dr. Zhivagoesque.
If the residence had been burned to the ground with casualties inside the left would STILL me coming up with excuses to justify it. What I would love to see is every parent who is bankrolling these morons cut them off and tell them “Get your liberal buddies to pay your tuition.”
Are you kidding! They are luvin’ it!
purealchemy Said: “Were any of them seen sporting newly purchased red kerchiefs for the occasion?
Ah, the romance!”
Between that and all the mandatory Che tee shirts it would be impossible to identify anyone for certain.
My point exactly.
Remember “The Big Chill”?
Awright, folks, calm down…we’re (or we are supposed to be) the rational ones. Leftists, almost by definition, are those who aren’t. Get and keep your firearms, train to be safe and lethal (if necessary) with them, get in shape physically to be able to fight effectively, and be mentally prepared to fight these thugs both intellectually and ideologically. If nothing else, this will prepare us better against foreign terrorists as well.
As far as the military, there ARE gangs who use the military to get trained to be more effective thugs (who also use law enforcement). I suppose leftists will do the same, but are generally such cowards they won’t even try to get through the training. However, not only will the vast majority of officers and enlisted disregard illegal orders, those who would follow such an illegal order by the likes of our current leftist masters will likely end up in military prison under the UCMJ or dealt with less mercifully by their lawful peers. Keeping your oath does mean something to servicemen, contrary to that pathetic joke made of the oath by politicians. Even so, again, the rest of us level headed people (and I include you, Dan) will overcome these social justice jerks in due course. Yes, they wield much less power than their sympathetic media friends would have you believe–and the MSM is dying off as we speak as well.
OT, the senate just passed a 1.1 dollar spending bill…hang on to your wallets, as if you could when the giverment puts a gun in your face for the money. Is this not what the revolutionary war was about. Taxation without representation?
They never stop, oh, our traitorous dolts from Maine Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe, along with Thad Cochran of Missouri and Richard Shelby of Alabama voted for it. 4 we need to get rid of next year.
Torch-wielding spawn of hippies acting like spoiled children is terrorism (and I agree), yet libs tell us that Nidal Hasan wasn’t a terrorist.
I was calm. Speak for yourself.
What happens in Berkeley, stays in Berkeley.
Does not affect any of us.
They have their own private playground.
Figure it out dudes and dudesses.
We could use the anger of lil’ crybabies:
Notice:
California’s senior Congressional Delegation
Nancy Pelosi D- 8
Henry Waxman D-30
Maxine Waters D-35 aka daHood
are proposing a $250 per semester fee for all undergraduates at California State Universities to help fund Undocumented Guests Students Healthcare. The fee is to be retroactive to September of 2009.
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A rumor a day, that is all I ask.
Fine. You go out there and shoot at… who exactly? Hippies? Liberals? Your points are nothing more than silly rhetoric and fail to address what I said.
I described a winning scenario and laid it out for you. Now lay out your “revolution” for us and skip the trite rhetoric. This isn’t a “Braveheart” movie. This is real life.
Deadly force should be answered by deadly force- IOW, shoot them and you will stop this type of behavior. These are the same morons who think talking to our enemies will end terrorism.
Surely someone in Berkeley has been dropping LSD into the city water supply.
Do they think money comes from the sky? That their professors work for free? Good gracious, they’re stupid.
Since these students would, in all likelihood, support Obama’s coming tax increases for health care and Copenhagen (since it’s our duty to pay more in taxes), they should just consider tuition/fee hikes as taxes that will go to help poorer students. Or faculty.
The fact that liberals label conservatives as violent war-mongers is laughable. They are the most destructive, violent, petty people on the planet.
Yes, that is the way it is. Just like any other state.
Totally agreeable & sensible post!
On December 13th, 2009 at 4:17 pm, atheling said:
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Interrogative, Over!
Some of y’all scare me worst than screaming Berkeley radicals.
Let me clue you in, if there’s debate it’s not about supporting and defending the Constitution of the United States, which by the way, at least my son, his unit and several other young Soldiers I’ve met were taught if not in school then in BCT. There may be disagreement about the matters political. But, talk of armed insurrection is scary. Especially considering how unlikely it is that any people regardless of whether they’ve served who are so loudly in favor of violence were one of the 3-4 guys in a platoon who could actually fight and given that the people who saw the most combat in the 1980s and 1990s were XVIII Airborne Corps’ 101st Abn (AASLT), 82nd Abn, 10th Mtn, and various SOCOM units, the people so loudly calling for violence wouldn’t have the stomach for the sights and smells of real combat nor or the endless hours of sheer boredom punctuated by seconds of pure terror. People who have no idea what it’s like to be in combat are usually the very ones that start it. Leaving a mess for others to clean up after. So call yourself a ‘militia’ and go talk tough over your beers and be all testosterone and ‘macho’ with you and your b**t buddies and ‘PX heroes’. But you are every bit as dangerous for your bravado and hubris as the young fools at Berkeley with theirs.
Ah, but the 61st Chairborne Wing, Malin Regiment, is always at the ready to fight and… um… something-something-something… Hey, Cheetohs! Thanks, Mom!
Besides, it’s not like anybody in Tennessee or Oklahoma or wherever is actually going to HAVE this problem. You’d need a university as well known and respected as UC Berkeley there first… Where would they come from? Oral Roberts U?!
Folks, Berkeley is a world in itself.
Measure their voting power.
Don’t get stressed.
On December 13th, 2009 at 7:24 pm, purealchemy said:
ssnark,
I don’t drink beer, & I don’t do drugs, so take your ad hominem attacks, generalizations & stereotypes, & stick them where the sun doesn’t shine..
Second, I don’t remember anyone talking about an “insurrection”. What I read was people being ready to defend against a Government attack on its own people. Something our constitution provided for with the second amendment.
Perhaps you don’t understand what the second amendment is for, but that’s no mine, or any other militia member’s fault, it’s your own.
Nobody is talking about making half asses attacks on anyone, or starting a fight with the government. What we are talking about is defense of our constitutional rights, should THE GOVERNMENT decide to start arresting dissidents, or abusing the population..
Let me ask you something ssnark.. Are you so apathetic that you think what’s going on in Iran right now couldn’t happen here?
Because your Apathy scares ME more than the Berkeley radicals.. I’m not sure even they have has much trust in Government as you do.
Lastly, no I have not seen war, because my grandfather & his brothers secured our freedom for us. Some of them died.. So don’t you dare tell me a about loss, or what I think of war, because my family has sacrificed for generations to keep people like yourself safe. How have you repaid them? By attacking their offspring for carrying on the tradition of defending, & for NOT having been in war.
Your apathy sucks.. Period.
On December 13th, 2009 at 7:33 pm, Dan Lee said:
86.
My, my the brave REMF speaks, go peddle your tripe to one of your beer swilling b**t buddies, maybe they’ll buy what you have to sell.
Me apathetic? That’s funny. Considering you’ve formed your opinions of me based on prejudices.
I’m glad your forefather’s served. Too bad the good blood died off with them.
I served.
ssnark,
You’re a piece of trash, & you just proved it.. I’m not going to waste my time with you.
Why do Rhinos like you come to Conservative message boards & pretend to be one of us.. Don’t you have anything better to do? If you don’t understand & believe in everything the Constitution says, then go hang around on HuffPo.. Leave the real Americans alone ssnark..
Stop it! Stop it! Stop it!
For God’s sake!
Why would Dan Lee and ssnark be fighting?
Dan Lee,
You obviously don’t know who ssnark is.
Please do your homework.
Because he’s shown his true colors.. According to ssnark, Militias are all full of drunk idiots, & the US military is full of men who are completely beyond reproach, & ssnark says we can be guaranteed that none of them will turn on us, ever.. Especially none of those muslim ones that shoot up other soldiers, & civilian police officers..
No nothing to see here.. Move along..
Such ignorance in the face of hard evidence..
I’ve joined a militia.. But before this president Obama came into office, I didn’t even own a rifle..
A few years before that, I didn’t even own a gun! I’m 41 one years old! Do you think I had some bravado switch that I flipped on what day? What a stupid thing to say.. NO, it is that the government is waaaay out of control, & they need to know that they will not go unchecked.
I know what he’s just said to me.. He’s an enemy now, until he apologizes.. He is a presumptuous idiot for saying the things he said to me. He knows where to reach me if he wants to discuss it in person.. info@danleereport.net
In fact, it would make a good debate for my upcoming podcast..
“Idiot” Militias against “Do Nothing” Commentators” on message boards..
I have to go with Pasadena and ssnark. And if a guy that risked his life in combat for my freedom is trash, then please call me trash too. Thank you ssnark.
I’ve been on the road a lot, but to my knowledge no police or military have come to my house arrest me, even though I’ve been to 3 tea parties – so I’m one of them there dangerous dissidents Napolitano is so worried about. Nor has anyone come to confiscate my guns. Nor will they.
This stuff is not going to happen. When we start fighting one another the battle is lost. The enemy now is the liberal machine. Stay focussed.
If any of them were registered students enrolled at Berkley this semester, I will eat my car.
Having endured MANY campus protests, I know from direct experience that this kind of nonsense is always conducted by non-students.
When convisced these parasites should be permanently banned from any state supported campus in the state.
On December 13th, 2009 at 7:44 pm, Dan Lee said:
From you that’s a compliment.
As to supporting the Second Amendment. I make my last payment on an Endowment membership in the NRA and have supported the ILA for years. I shoot competitively in both rifle and pistol. I don’t advertise if I own any firearms or carry them. You may continue to assume anything you wish in this regard.
As to the rest, you’re entitled to your prejudices and your opinions.
Do you know how many jobs I’ve lost because I wouldn’t cave into liberals & their hate for my Christian beliefs? The financial hardships they put me through before I escaped Massachusetts? The Jobs I was run out of just for being a Conservative who would not hide it to fit in?
There’s more than one way to wage violence against a person, & I’ve been on the receiving end of my share..
So when you tell me that “I’m glad your forefather’s served. Too bad the good blood died off with them.”
You are an elitist piece of sh*t, who is part of the problem, & should probably be working right next to Rham Emanuel..
So if you want to take sides with whomever, go right ahead. You think that your guns can’t be taken away, & you think that none of these things can happen in America. You are arrogant & apathetic to think so. You can band together like a little brood of vipers to attack me if you like, but in the end, you will be the fools who did nothing, & will live with the consequences.
Do you really think your whining about the government on this message board bothers them? Well you are pretty naive.. Sadly naive..
But you had no prejudice agianst militias huh?
Can you even beging to be honest with yourself??
I’m an NRA instructor.. So what??
That & a million dollars won’t by you a second of range time if liberal judges are allowed to just cancel laws at a whim.. Did you know we passed a restaurant carry law in Tennessee, & a libtard judge just decided on her own, she doesn’t like it, & that it’s unconstitutional? What about the ACORN funding ruling? They don’t even heed Congress, do you think they care about your NRA membership? Be serious..
Let the record show that ssnark believes I’m as bad as people who throw lit torches as someone’s home, just because I train with a Militia (one that doesn’t allow drinking, because it’s run by Christians). One that doesn’t promote or allow any explosives making, or the typical “crazy” militia activities that get bad militias in trouble..
Yes, according to him, I’m a flame throwing leftist, or at least a “Right Wing Extremist”.
ssnark, are you sure you’re not working for Janet Napolitano? You insulted me, & you were wrong on every count. Man up & apologize.. I apologize for calling you names, because it’s not solving anything, & I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m promoting. But really bro, don’t paint everyone who wants to show the government that we’re not going to take socialism & fascism with such a broad brush. I didn’t not survive 41 years without having one brush with the law by running around starting fights with the cops or the Government.
Some of the things you said were totally unfair.
On December 13th, 2009 at 8:09 pm, swede said:
Thanks Swede! Like you I’ve been active in the DFW Tea Parties. I’m definitely on Janet Napolitano’s list of potential terrorists since I’m a vet and a Second Amendment supporter among other things.
I’ve not been visited by the police for any real or imagined crime. While I don’t like Mr. Obama,or his administration. There’s no reason to begin talking about some kind of violence.
Sounds like the crusades. That didn’t work out so well either. Just sayin’.