Obama brings the Gitmolympics home

By Michelle Malkin  •  December 16, 2009 09:10 AM

Obama brings the Gitmolympics home
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2009

President Obama’s hometown cronies lost their bid to bring the 2016 Olympic Games to the Windy City. But this week, they got a consolation prize: the Gitmolympics. On Tuesday, the White House went public with its official plans to purchase the Thomson Correctional Facility from financially-strapped Illinois to house Guantanamo Bay detainees. The War on Terror meets the Chicago Way.

Political boosters of the Illinois budget bailout masquerading as a national security program can’t wait to roll out the jihadi welcome mat. Unions representing federal prison workers also cheered the move. Leading the lobbying delegation for the new Gitmo-in-the-heartland located a few hours west of Chicago: Democrat Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, last seen on the international stage in 2005 likening American interrogators and military staff at Guantanamo Bay to Nazis, Soviet gulag operators and genocidal maniac Pol Pot.

And co-chairing the bid to bring suspected jihadis to American soil: Beleaguered Illinois Democrat Gov. Pat Quinn, who is salivating at the prospect of an estimated $1 billion injection into the local economy over four years. (Never mind that the jobs predictions from the Council of Economic Advisers use the same fuzzy math methods that gave us bogus porkulus numbers.)

Sensibly, the people of Illinois who will have to live with this raw deal aren’t waving their pom-poms. A Rasmussen poll shows that 51 percent of voters in the state oppose the transfer of suspected terrorists from the Cuban detention facility to their backyard – including 70 percent of Republicans, 37 percent of Democrats, and 57 percent of independents.

Left-wing advocates of closing Gitmo accuse these Americans of “NIMBYism” and groundless fear. But can you blame anyone who watched the Crashergate debacle at the White House or the Scare Force One debacle in New York City for choking on disbelief when Team Obama promises airtight safety, security, and competence?

Moreover, Illinois is already suffering its own severe prison overcrowding crisis – which Gov. Quinn has alleviated by secretly releasing more than 850 inmates, including violent offenders, since September, according to the Associated Press.

GOP gubernatorial candidate Dan Proft points out that “[t]he state’s 28 current prisons are 32 percent over capacity. Why not alleviate the overcrowding and bring the Thomson prison online” for existing criminals instead of importing them from abroad? Another Republican candidate Kirk Dillard blasted Gov. Quinn’s fiscal desperation: “I think Al-Qaeda needs to stay in Cuba. It shows how pathetic the state of Illinois’ finances are where we have to stand with our hat in hand and have the federal government give us money to open a penitentiary that the Democrats have let sit vacant for years.”

Obama officials stress that the prison would house Gitmo detainees separately from federal inmates, and that the two would be “managed separately” with “no opportunity to interact” between them. Which entirely misses the point that Gitmo detainees’ lawyers and translators have been primary security concerns – not just other inmates:

*Last month, jihadist-enabling lawyer Lynne Stewart was finally ordered to jail after her conviction in 2005 for aiding and abetting imprisoned blind Egyptian Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman by smuggling coded messages of violence to terrorist followers abroad — in violation of an explicit pledge to abide by her client’s court-ordered isolation.

*Earlier this summer, the Justice Department launched an inquiry into photographs of undercover CIA officials and other intelligence personnel taken by ACLU-sponsored researchers assisting the defense team of Guatanamo Bay detainees. The pictures of covert American CIA officers – “in some cases surreptitiously taken outside their homes,” according to the Washington Post – were shown to jihadi suspects tied to the 9/11 attacks in order to identify the interrogators.

*As investigative journalist Paul Sperry reported recently, a number of Arabic and Pashtu interpreters who served at Gitmo are “under active investigation for omitting valuable intelligence from their translations of detainee interrogations, among other security breaches.”

The corruptocrat Attorney General Eric Holder is, of course, in no position to raise any principles objections to the Gitmo-in-the-Heartland plans. Remember: He served as senior partner with Covington & Burling — the prestigious Washington, D.C. law firm, which represents 17 Yemenis currently held at Gitmo – and top attorneys at his Justice Department have had to recuse themselves numerous times over their conflicts of interest in Gitmo-related cases. Holder has failed to provide a full recusal list of all the Gitmo detainee cases from which current Justice Department political appointees have had to recuse themselves.

Meanwhile, Team Obama is now championing the very same indefinite detention powers for detainees deemed untriable that it condemned the Bush administration for exercising – and for which it targeted Gitmo for closure in the first place. Give the White House a gold medal for costly incoherence and reckless redundance.

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  1. #1
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:13 am, RedDog said:

    This is going to be a FUBAR case study.

  2. #2
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:15 am, Ignatius Reilly said:

    Very interesting item by Power Line’s Scott Johnson on how NYT attempted to ignore the Gitmo to Illinois transfer story even after Andrew Breitbart broke it on Friday. These arrogant and irrelevant people in the MSM — the NYT especially — think they can define their own reality.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/12/025168.php

  3. #3
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:15 am, jangar said:

    This reminds me of a routine George Carlin did 30-something years ago about putting a fence up around Kansas to contain criminals.

    He had the wrong state in mind.

  4. #4
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:18 am, tarpon said:

    What exactly is accomplished moving GITMO north? Don’t they know it’s getting cold up there?

    Or is it just something to make up for the $20 million the ACLU investor, who lost his money in green shoots, used to give the ACLU?

    If it were me, I would stay south, until at least the current ice age passes — LOL

  5. #5
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:25 am, Flyoverman said:

    This is less than 90 miles from my home.

    My only comment consists of a single word. BESLAN

    These people have no clue how to protect us. Get ready, the innocents are going to pay for Obama’s stupidity.

  6. #6
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:26 am, JVsbrother said:

    I was wondering if someone was going to ask who was being paid off. No surprise, it was our gal MM!

  7. #7
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:29 am, mchristian said:

    I am shocked, SHOCKED, that the GITMO prisoners are going to Illinois. Why, that seems like cronyism. I’m sure it was just a coincidence that the president’s home state was selected for this dubious honor. Weren’t there some other political machines the administration needed to buy off?

  8. #8
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:29 am, BobK said:

    I heard a comment on Hannity this morning.

    Basically, Obama isn’t closing Gitmo – he is relocating it.

    It’s just smoke and mirrors.

  9. #9
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:29 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:26 am, JVsbrother said:
    I was wondering if someone was going to ask who was being paid off. No surprise, it was our gal MM!

    Please explain.

  10. #10
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:32 am, Doug Powers said:

    Great column Michelle!

    That this stuff is viewed as a “job stimulus” is troubling… I’m not sure I want to live in a country that relies on terrorism to fuel its economic engine.

  11. #11
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:35 am, SpeakEasy said:

    Give the White House a gold medal for costly incoherence and reckless redundance.

    Don’t you mean a B+?

  12. #12
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:36 am, Doug Powers said:

    Don’t you mean a B+?

    Ahaha! Nice.

  13. #13
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:36 am, SpeakEasy said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:26 am, JVsbrother said:I was wondering if someone was going to ask who was being paid off. No surprise, it was our gal MM!

    Marilyn Manson?

  14. #14
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:37 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Obama’s running his own “Special” Olympics! These cretins are being despicably retarded on purpose!
    (I apologize to our mentally challenged brethren, for this alliteration, just trying to make a poorly formed point.)

  15. #15
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:39 am, Edouard said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:26 am, JVsbrother said:
    I was wondering if someone was going to ask who was being paid off. No surprise, it was our gal MM!

    ?? Do you have a problem with MM’s column?

  16. #16
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am, SpeakEasy said:

    This is called pay-back. The Chicago machine promoted a clueless community organizer and now they get some cheese. Are the unions the only ones? I have a feeling there will be more news to come. Stay tuned kiddies.

  17. #17
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:41 am, SpeakEasy said:

    Edouard, I think he is praising our host for exposing this folly.

  18. #18
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:45 am, Flyoverman said:

    The Cordova nuclear power plant is 15 miles from Thompson, IL. Their pucker factor just went up.

  19. #19
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:46 am, granite said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:32 am, Doug Powers said:

    Great column Michelle!

    Agreed.

    That this stuff is viewed as a “job stimulus” is troubling… I’m not sure I want to live in a country that relies on terrorism to fuel its economic engine.

    Excellent point.

    Hypocritical socialists/fascists/statists.
    Over the past 40+/- years, we’ve heard endlessly from them about the evil military/industrial complex, and about how evil arms manufacturers were fomenting wars around the world so that they could cash in.
    Now, we have socialists/fascists/statists actively seeking to essentially profit from war:

    Leading the lobbying delegation for the new Gitmo-in-the-heartland located a few hours west of Chicago: Democrat Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin,….

    And co-chairing the bid to bring suspected jihadis to American soil: Beleaguered Illinois Democrat Gov. Pat Quinn, who is salivating at the prospect of an estimated $1 billion injection into the local economy over four years.

    America-haters…could they belong to the entity “…enemies…domestic….” to which the oath to support and defend the Constitution refers?

  20. #20
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:46 am, stillontheroad said:

    Now let me get the straight – Gitmo is moving to Illinois but these thugs will be put on trial in New York? If thats the case, daily flights, weekly? Where will they be housed in NY? And above all, just how much is this going to cost in time, manpower and money?

  21. #21
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:47 am, granite said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:41 am, SpeakEasy said:

    …I think he is praising our host for exposing this folly.

    Yes.
    Michelle is the one doing the asking, not the one being paid off.

  22. #22
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:51 am, graysonret said:

    I wonder how long it will take, after moving to Illinois, for the terrorists to start filing all sorts of lawsuits on anything they can think of, encouraged by the throng of lawyers wanting to represent them?

  23. #23
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:56 am, John Deaux said:

    You’re not supposed to be paying attention to this or the health care bill.

    Don’t you know that Tiger Woods had an affair!

  24. #24
    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    I notice Dems still see Americans as enemies in this column. Nice to point this out.

    Gives a whole new meaning to the “Fighting Illini” I should think: Protecting terrorists rights from the evil Bush administration at any cost.

  25. #25
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:56 am, John Deaux said:
    You’re not supposed to be paying attention to this or the health care bill

    or the cash for caulkers
    or the crap and tax
    or the lack of secutiry at the WH
    or the criminals in the BHO admin
    or the…

  26. #26
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am, jangar said:

    More gubmint tax sucklers for Illinois. The residents should be so proud.
    I wonder if Obama had to fight Ahnold for the rights… :shock:

  27. #27
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:02 am, Savage24 said:

    Idiocy compounded by stupiity. The whole foundation of the Obama administration.

  28. #28
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:05 am, jangar said:

    Waiting for this to backfire, as all liberal democrat policies do. Obama has officially painted a target on Illinois for terrorists to zero in on and do more open recruiting and destruction.

    There is a good reason for Gitmo, which wonderboy will never understand.

  29. #29
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:08 am, JHSII said:

    Ok, I want to be sure I have this right.

    They’re holding trials for Al Queda terrorists in New York City – just down the street from what was the World Trade Center.

    They’re moving Al Queda terrorists from Guantanamo to the Thomson Correctional Facility in Illinois. How are they going to be moving the terrorists to Illinois? Boat and bus? Airplane? Jetliner?

    Will they be flying the Al Queda terrorists back and forth between Illinois and New York for their trials?

    Yeah, that’s a good idea. Planeloads of Al Queda terrorists flying on jetliners in and out of New York City.

    Yeah, nothing could go wrong there, huh????

  30. #30
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:08 am, backwoods conservative said:

    The flow here is in the wrong direction. Instead of terrorists being brought here from Gitmo, the people involved in the planning and execution of this reckless assault on our national security should be rounded up and sent to Gitmo.

    There are three things every plumber needs to know; hot water, cold water, and crap doesn’t go uphill. Maybe we should send Joe the Plumber to have a talk with the Obama misadministration and explain that to them. They need to get their pile together and flowing in the right direction.

  31. #31
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:09 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    OT on not exactly Republican Governor Arnold Scharzenneger-ShriverKennedy critcizing Sarah Palin as being stone age on global warming (even after Climate Gate!)

    I guess California is like Massachusetts or Maine. What the rest of the country might consider as a “moderate” Democrat is the only kind of Republican who can win statewide office.

    Except, of course, California is full of real conservatives and patriots, but their votes are drowned out by the loonies in SF and LA.

    There isn’t a single Congressional district in the 6 New England states represented by a Republican. If one considers how Collins and Snowe vote, worse than Landrieu last year, there isn’t really a single Republican from all of New England in Congress.

    I still think the damage done to Palin by the none stop Dan Quayle type demonization will probably make it hard for her to win a general election in 2012, but I think if she endorses a conservative early in the process, before Super Tuesday, we won’t have a 2008 scenario of 2 outright liberal/moderates, one of whom campaigns badly (Giuliani), leaving McCain to benefit from cross overs and independents, against 4 or 5 candidates claiming the conservative mantle and splitting the vote.

    And that will be especially important in 2012, if Obama is essentially unchallenged, Markos, Randy Andy Sullivan (The Bareback Queen) and Charles Johnson will be sending their sycophants over to monkey-wrench our open primaries. We’ll need one front running conservative to unite the party.

  32. #32
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:11 am, TigerLady said:

    Savage24 said:
    Idiocy compounded by stupiity. The whole foundation of the Obama administration.

    But, he’s so articulate and cool.

  33. #33
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:11 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    But why out in the hinterlands of Thompson so far from a major airport their lawyers will need. Now every time one of these jihadist lads needs to speak with an attorney we will have to pay to transport them to Chicago–important lawyers do not travel far from the amenities.

    Wouldn’t it be better to house our mohammedan guests in Chicago itself- The Sears Tower, Merchandise Mart, one of the Field Museums? Or one of Chicago’s great hotels with full staff would be nice. We do wish to be polite to our jihadist guests now don’t we?

    After all it was Chicago itself that gave us Obama, Rahm Emmanuel, Miss Valerie and such; a stay in that fair city might enlighten these wayward lads. During their week-end passes they could take in the sights, sounds and foods of a great city-learn the Chicago Way as it were. And as Mayor Daley and the city fathers have disarmed the citizens of that city there is less chance of our jihadist guest being hurt during their escapes.

    Mr. President rethink Thompson! Chicago is the answer.

  34. #34
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:13 am, cheapseat said:

    i bet that by the end of 2010, 30 of these terrorists will be on the streets of a city near you. aclu will get writs of habeus corpus and some federal judge will find the constitution doesn’t allow incarceration without charges and a trial. they will be released, then claim they will be persecuted if they are sent anywhere, and will become defacto american wards.

  35. #35
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:16 am, sbw999 said:

    Meanwhile, Team Obama is now championing the very same indefinite detention powers for detainees deemed untriable that it condemned the Bush administration for exercising – and for which it targeted Gitmo for closure in the first place. Give the White House a gold medal for costly incoherence and reckless redundance.

    The despicable ACLU has made this point already, which at least gives me the satisfaction of knowing that Obama’s nutjob base will soon no longer be supporting him on this and other issues. The way I see it, the only thing changing is the location of the facility, from safely offshore, to recklessly within our borders. So why bother??? Just keep Gitmo open. Now, more taxpayer money is to be wasted to give these scum another Club Fed, while they laugh at us 24/7. This Country has lost its collective mind.

  36. #36
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:17 am, jangar said:

    Thomson Correctional Facility – the Obama approved muslim jihad education and training facility of the United States.

  37. #37
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:23 am, walterc said:

    I thought about this story the other day when I heard about the mulsims attacking a prison in the Philipines to free their co-horts.

    Unless my geography is off, this isn’t all that far from the jihad infested Dearbornistan.

  38. #38
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:26 am, happyscrapper said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:51 am, graysonret said:
    I wonder how long it will take, after moving to Illinois, for the terrorists to start filing all sorts of lawsuits on anything they can think of, encouraged by the throng of lawyers wanting to represent them?

    You can be sure they will complain about the weather!! Coming from the sandbox in the ME and then GITMO, now Chicago?? HA!! I hope they are put out into the yards for a couple hours each day when it is 20 degrees BELOW ZERO.

  39. #39
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:26 am, Flyoverman said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:51 am, graysonret said:

    I wonder how long it will take, after moving to Illinois, for the terrorists to start filing all sorts of lawsuits on anything they can think of, encouraged by the throng of lawyers wanting to represent them?

    The ACLU has already started the process. They are also “judge shopping” looking for sympathetic judges.

    Krauthammer is all over this side of the issue.

  40. #40
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:28 am, happyscrapper said:

    Off topic, but I want to thank RedPill for the article about the Continental Congress on another thread the other day!!! Not only was it interesting, but I found one of my ancestors, Joseph Palmer as one of the signers listed and have since found a ton more about him that I didn’t know. Thanks, RedPill for helping me with my genealogy!! :grin:

  41. #41
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:32 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Krauthammer is all over this side of the issue.

    Have a link?

  42. #42
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:39 am, Jvette said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:16 am, sbw999 said:

    This Country has lost its collective mind.

    Half its mind….the lame brained side that believes in unicorns and rainbows and voted for this idiot.

  43. #43
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    This entire thing should remind us all of the problems with Jurassic Park. Nature and man will find a way to undo all kinds of schemes intended to keep these terrorists contained. Whether it is some change in the environment, a major earthquake, a terrorist attack on the prison, or legal scheme by a devious lawyer, these GITMO terrorists will find a way out to the detriment of America and the world.

  44. #44
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:49 am, ssnark said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 9:25 am, Flyoverman said:

    This is less than 90 miles from my home.

    My only comment consists of a single word. BESLAN

    Yay, team Obama!

    Chicago has one of the largest populations of Palestinians including active PLO and Hamas supporters. Detroit/Dearborn Michigan has a large Muslim population that also includes supporters of various Jihadist groups and those with links to Al Qaeda.

    So we’ve taken these very dangerous people, and moved them from splendid isolation into a highly populated area near where they may have not just sympathizers but outright support. Why?

    This is about a hundred kinds of stupid. Like playing with sweaty dynamite.

    I have family in the Milwaukee area. That’s too close to them for my comfort.

    Too bad the USMC or Navy can’t ‘lose’ a spatula of C4 or better yet five M112 charges on the aircraft carrying these ‘wonderful people’ and then detain the flight crew long enough for it to be ‘accidentally’ detonated by an RF signal. Hey, I can dream can’t I?

  45. #45
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:49 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    The GUBERNATOR must be ticked off to see this valuable industry being lost to Kalifornia.
    ***
    Alcatraz Island would be a better choice. Just dump the Jihadis there. Chum up the sharks and let nature take its course. Lawyers swimming to the island to help out their clients. And the clients trying to learn how to swim with the sharks to escape.
    ***
    And Frisco is already a sanctuary city full of illegal aliens. A few more would fit right in. And if anything goes wrong just blame the evil BOOOSH and CHENEY.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  46. #46
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:50 am, sbw999 said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    This entire thing should remind us all of the problems with Jurassic Park.

    To continue on your analogy, since an ice age likely killed the dinosaurs, perhaps the cold Chicago winter will have the same effect on the Gitmo criminals in detention. Or we could just clone, and release a T-Rex in the prison, and let it hunt all the enemy combatant velociraptors behind those walls. Jihadists: the other white meat. :o

  47. #47
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:51 am, happyscrapper said:

    If they let any of these creatures out, you can be sure someone will take care of the situation pretty quickly, if you know what I mean. If the law fails, there are other ways to get justice.

  48. #48
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:53 am, sbw999 said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:49 am, rocketman said:

    Lawyers swimming to the island to help out their clients.

    The sharks would never eat the lawyers: it’s called professional courtesy.

  49. #49
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:56 am, sbw999 said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:51 am, happyscrapper said:

    If they let any of these creatures out, you can be sure someone will take care of the situation pretty quickly, if you know what I mean. If the law fails, there are other ways to get justice.

    Id like to think that too Happyscrapper. But I’m sure that they would quickly find refuge in the homes of like minded individuals: either other Muslims, or non-Muslim American liberals.

  50. #50
    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:57 am, backwoods conservative said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:49 am, ssnark said:

    This is about a hundred kinds of stupid.

    1. Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

    2. Never underestimate the stupidity of Democrats.

  51. #51
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:01 am, astonerii said:

    I could care less where they put them as long as there are two aspects to their captivity.
    1) they have absolutely no contact with other types of inmates. They are fanatics and fanatics recruit.
    2) They have 0.0000000000% chance of escaping over a period of 50 years and gaining access to attack america from the inside.

    That is all I care about. The government can meet these requirements, and I will be happy.

    So, anyone know what reality is for Illinois?

  52. #52
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:04 am, Thors_Hammer said:

    Chicago, Detroit, Dearborn? How about the Minneapolis-St. Paul area (any news about Somali A-Q sympathizers, lately in and around that locale?)? How about the close proximity to the Canadian border (huge muslim population there)? This is stupid on SO many levels.

  53. #53
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:10 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI SBW999–#48.–I like your plan also–T-Rex works for me.
    ***
    As far as lawyers and “professional courtesy”–when money is in the arena it looks more like a FEEDING FRENZY.
    ***
    Or like the old collegiate CANE RUSH where the Sophmore and Freshman classes tried to get a cane down from a greased flagpole in the football stadium. The person who got the cane to the judging stand got a $100 prize. And the class that the person belonged to decided if real hazing continued for another month or not. Lots of teeth on the field after the festivities were over.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  54. #54
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:12 am, happyscrapper said:

    Id like to think that too Happyscrapper. But I’m sure that they would quickly find refuge in the homes of like minded individuals: either other Muslims, or non-Muslim American liberals.

    Well, those people better be very careful who they take in. They have a way of losing their heads over things like that!

  55. #55
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:16 am, prendad said:

    I cannot decide, as I watch this administration, if it is akin to watching Animal Farm, The Three Stooges, or The Keystone Cops in real life. Maybe it’s a combination of all the above.
    As Obama approaches the one year mark, I cannot think of one solid achievement he can brag about. Instead, I only see a never-ending line of broken promises and failed deadlines. Can somebody help me out here? Has this guy done anything constructive for the country yet? His tarp bill was essentially a pork-filled monstrosity for congress to feast on. The health bill has nearly started a civil war in the country (and still might). Gitmo will never really be closed, only relocated, renamed and essentially a blank check for Illinois. Cash for clunkers was a fiasco and it looks like it will be followed by a never-ending series of deadbeat programs just like it. Cash for caulkers etc. The first state dinner was a security flop and the person in charge has been designated “untouchable” and I guess too busy doing magazine covers. The Nobel Peace Prize has been accepted for “my aspirations” due to the fact, I guess, that the president could not think of any real achievements to describe. Our national debt is soaring off the charts. Our military is getting raped (again) as programs are cancelled and troops are asked to do the impossible and fight a “war” with insufficient assets while our strategic plans are announced to the enemy in advance. The CIA has been handcuffed and I can only guess is still trying to figure our what it is supposed to do nowadays. Air Force One will likely have to be scrapped soon from metal fatigue. Photo “happy-snaps” over NYC scaring people to death, “57 states”, the health care debate will be on CSPAN, Refusal to release birth or school records, “I won”, never-ending Bush-bashing, “the police acted stupidly”, “fat cats”, czars. . . .where is the good here? Can anyone name ONE THING, JUST ONE ACHIEVEMENT THAT THIS ADMISTRATION HAS ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTRY?????????

  56. #56
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:20 am, zorro said:

    15 miles from a nuclear power plant. That’s just great. This crowd of Chicago Thugs is making the Klinton Administration look professional.

  57. #57
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:20 am, sbw999 said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:12 am, happyscrapper said:

    Well, those people better be very careful who they take in. They have a way of losing their heads over things like that!

    Might wake them up (well their liberal survivors anyway) to the reality of dealing so lightly with insane murderers.

  58. #58
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:22 am, stillontheroad said:

    prendad said:

    In a nutshell – like watching a Monkey having relations with a football.

  59. #59
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:23 am, Thors_Hammer said:

    Zorro, actually there are two nuke plants within 50 miles of the site!

  60. #60
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:24 am, sbw999 said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:16 am, prendad said:

    “Can somebody help me out here? Has this guy done
    anything con destructive for the country yet?”

    That question I can answer: Everything.

  61. #61
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:33 am, John Deaux said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:16 am, prendad said:

    As Obama approaches the one year mark, I cannot think of one solid achievement he can brag about.

    The Peter Principle in practice.

  62. #62
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:37 am, Truesoldier said:

    My question is how long after the terrorists show up will it take for ACORN to show up and register them to vote? I would be willing to bet it will be in time for the 2012 election.

  63. #63
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:40 am, Thors_Hammer said:

    The local public television station (I live about 35 miles from Thomson Prison) was showing “Al Jazeera – English” newscast last evening. My first thought was, “why in the hell are they broadcasting Al Jazeera?” I flipped to the channel and guess what the headline story was? You got it. Gitmo detainees heading for Thomson, Illinois. Complete with video of the prison and town.

  64. #64
    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:42 am, JVsbrother said:

    In answer several questions on my evidently obtuse comment:
    Michelle is looking beyond the fact that transferring prisoners from extracontinental GITMO where several million dollars where spent to make the Moose Limbs confortable before we try and convict them to a facility which is unoccupied on the continental Umited States is not about whatever the White House spin of the day is but about money and paying off the friends of Zero.

    Most of the stories bing written are about whether or not US citizens will be put in danger by the reloaction.

    As stated in All the President’s Men -”Follow the Money.”

  65. #65
    On December 16th, 2009 at 12:06 pm, greenfairie said:

    For Obama, it’s always been about paying back his cronies.

    I’d only support this move if the prisoners were holed up in West Hollywood, Nancy Pelosi’s neighborhood, and the Upper East Side.

  66. #66
    On December 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm, sbw999 said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:33 am, John Deaux said:

    The Peter Principle in practice.

    I submit that this fool rose to his level of incompetence long before he became President; probably upon his arrival as a member of the Illinois State Legislature.

  67. #67
    On December 16th, 2009 at 12:12 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:23 am, Thors_Hammer said:

    Zorro, actually there are two nuke plants within 50 miles of the site!

    Then Chicago could be a glowing example to the whole world ;)

  68. #68
    On December 16th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    maybe they can put a few of these people in the prison as well…

    Check out this story….more training camps right here on our soil…when will this pc crapola stop and the real protection of Americans begin?? these are Americans who have been radicalized!!

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag

  69. #69
    On December 16th, 2009 at 12:13 pm, sbw999 said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 11:40 am, Thors_Hammer said:

    The local public television station (I live about 35 miles from Thomson Prison) was showing “Al Jazeera – English” newscast last evening. My first thought was, “why in the hell are they broadcasting Al Jazeera?”

    Just when I thought that liberal idiocy could not shock me anymore. Wow.

  70. #70
    On December 16th, 2009 at 12:18 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Doesn’t Valerie Jarrett have some extra rooms for rent? No roofs, rats running around, but why should Gitmoites live better than the good folks of South Chicago?

  71. #71
    On December 16th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, ssnark said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:49 am, rocketman said:

    The GUBERNATOR must be ticked off to
    Alcatraz Island would be a better choice. Just dump the Jihadis there. Chum up the sharks and let nature take its course. Lawyers swimming to the island to help out their clients. And the clients trying to learn how to swim with the sharks to escape.
    ***

    I like this idea.

  72. #72
    On December 16th, 2009 at 12:29 pm, roadrage said:

    Or we could just clone, and release a T-Rex in the prison, and let it hunt all the enemy combatant velociraptors behind those walls.

    I don’t think a T-Rex could handle the smell.

  73. #73
    On December 16th, 2009 at 12:34 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    15 miles from a nuclear power plant. That’s just great. This crowd of Chicago Thugs is making the Klinton Administration look professional.

    Well this way it’s closer to work for their work-release program at the plant.

  74. #74
    On December 16th, 2009 at 1:07 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    How long until many of these terrorists are quietly set free in the US by the Obama administration?

    Don’t believe Obama would do that? Look at his actions to date. He would do it.

  75. #75
    On December 16th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, stillontheroad said:

    Somebody please open a Pork Plant up wind from this prison – please!!

  76. #76
    On December 16th, 2009 at 1:10 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah he could of saved the taxpayers a whole lot of dough and sent them to be housed in the two closed guest room towers at the Sahara in Vegas. (Insert irony here!)

  77. #77
    On December 16th, 2009 at 1:26 pm, ssnark said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 12:34 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    15 miles from a nuclear power plant. That’s just great. This crowd of Chicago Thugs is making the Klinton Administration look professional.

    Well this way it’s closer to work for their work-release program at the plant.

    Don’t give the “Team Obama” ideas, they may just do it and the NRC isn’t noted for being the best at accounting for all of the materials it has jurisdiction over. Sort of like how the FBI ‘loses’ firearms.

  78. #78
    On December 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pm, expat said:

    If our elected representatives on the Republican side would do their homework, they would see that they cannot move the detainees to Illinois. The detainees are classified as POW’s. You cannot put POW’s in jail, prison or a correctional facility. The Geneva Convention spells it out pretty clearly and since the Obambi administration and the dhims are so hot on the Convention, then they better rethink their plans.

    Contact your representatives and point this out. Most of the representative don’t know what is in the Constitution much less what is allowed by the Geneva Convention.

  79. #79
    On December 16th, 2009 at 2:01 pm, Major O said:

    “B-bbuh but what about Palin and the bus tour??”

  80. #80
    On December 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm, expat said:

    O stands for Obtuse? Right?

  81. #81
    On December 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pm, ssnark said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pm, expat said:

    If our elected representatives on the Republican side would do their homework, they would see that they cannot move the detainees to Illinois. The detainees are classified as POW’s. You cannot put POW’s in jail, prison or a correctional facility. The Geneva Convention spells it out pretty clearly and since the Obambi administration and the dhims are so hot on the Convention, then they better rethink their plans.

    Unless there’s been a new ‘Finding’ recently, they most assuredly are not POWs under the Geneva Conventions or the Hague Convention or the Laws of Land Warfare. They are defined under the Geneva Conventions as Unlawful Enemy Combatants as they do not meet the criteria of a ‘lawful enemy combatant’ (uniforms, national affiliation, formal command structure) and are not entitled to treatment as POWs. If caught in acts or behaviors defined in the Geneva Conventions as ‘spies and saboteurs’ may be summarily tried and punished including execution.

    But, ‘Team Obama’ chooses to think of them in a context it understands and calls them criminals.

  82. #82
    On December 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, expat said:

    President Bush had them declared POW’s. I have seen nothing changing the status of them. In any case they don’t need to come to the United States. We need a place to send our home grown terrorists.

  83. #83
    On December 16th, 2009 at 3:32 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, expat said:
    President Bush had them declared POW’s. I have seen nothing changing the status of them.

    And when exactly did that happen? Last time I checked they were listed as unlawful enemy combatants which is quite a bit differnet than a POW.

  84. #84
    On December 16th, 2009 at 3:35 pm, Major O said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm, expat said:
    O stands for Obtuse? Right?

    Actually it’s the “O” in “Oh piss off!”

    I was filling in for our resident trolls who usually drop in these type of threads with a complete non sequitur.

  85. #85
    On December 16th, 2009 at 3:54 pm, expat said:

    And when exactly did that happen? Last time I checked they were listed as unlawful enemy combatants which is quite a bit differnet than a POW.

    Don’t know the exact date. Listened to a JAG Officer who was stationed in Gitmo who stated that they were declared POW’s and as a result were not allowed to be incarcerated in any of our correctional facilities. I will do more research, but not tonight. 2150 here right now. And yes the difference between POW and enemy combatant is very different. I believe I got the JAG spot from WND but need to verify that.

    Actually it’s the “O” in “Oh piss off!”

    Quaint. I refer you back to the original question.

  86. #86
    On December 16th, 2009 at 4:13 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 10:32 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Krauthammer is all over this side of the issue.

    Have a link?

    Saw him on Fox News. His column comes out Friday. I expect him to write abut it.

  87. #87
    On December 16th, 2009 at 5:00 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, expat said:

    President Bush had them declared POW’s. I have seen nothing changing the status of them. In any case they don’t need to come to the United States. We need a place to send our home grown terrorists./blockquote>

    I don’t think that is true. I remember Bush declaring that although the terrorists as unlawful enemy combatants are not covered by the Geneva Convention, the US will extend them that protection anyway.

  88. #88
    On December 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm, ssnark said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, expat said:

    President Bush had them declared POW’s. I have seen nothing changing the status of them. In any case they don’t need to come to the United States. We need a place to send our home grown terrorists.

    Can you provide a link to that? The finding that we had in the briefing package for Afghanistan from OEF I to OEF VI was that they were Unlawful Enemy Combatants. So, I’m just a bit confused here by your claim.

  89. #89
    On December 16th, 2009 at 5:02 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Let me correct my last post:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm, expat said:

    President Bush had them declared POW’s. I have seen nothing changing the status of them. In any case they don’t need to come to the United States. We need a place to send our home grown terrorists.

    I don’t think that is true. I remember Bush declaring that although the terrorists as unlawful enemy combatants are not covered by the Geneva Convention, the US will extend them that protection anyway.

  90. #90
    On December 16th, 2009 at 5:11 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    Surround the place with hog farms and don’t let any “furriners” buy land near it.

    Keep Gitmo open!

    ECS

  91. #91
    On December 16th, 2009 at 5:23 pm, expat said:

    Phil,

    http://www.wnd.com/media

    Here is the link that I referenced earlier. The retired JAG does not reference the exact “finding” that lists them as POW’s. She does reference the legal gymnastics that Rham Emanuels former colleagues will conduct to get these terrorists off.

    In the interview she talks about the challenges their lawyers can try but does not cite the actual proclamation making them POW’s. However, as a former prosecutor I will side with her. Also, I remembering some pronouncement about them being POW’s and being very pissed off. More research needed here, but I am very sure I am right.

  92. #92
    On December 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, expat said:

    ECS,

    Keep Gitmo Open! You are on the right track. We need a place to send the home grown to!

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=119087

    Check it out.

  93. #93
    On December 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pm, expat said:

    Nite all. Its 2326 hrs and I have to work tomorrow.

  94. #94
    On December 16th, 2009 at 5:34 pm, graysonret said:

    President Bush had them declared POW’s.

    They can be classified as international criminals which isn’t in the Geneva Conventions. They can’t be called POWs because that recognizes them as representing a country at war with us. However, if they are enemy combatants, they were captured out of uniform, “behind our lines”, committing acts of terrorism. They should have been immediately tried and shot. All this “touchy-feely” politics shows just how weak we have become; much like the Roman Empire, in its fall.

  95. #95
    On December 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    Michelle have you seen this story…if true this amounts to the story of the year and tantamount to treason in my book…this is about as low as politics can go without be below the gutter! Glenn Beck just covered it on his show…as a former AF member this disgusts me to no end…

    http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2009/12/obama_threatening_to_close_off.html

    http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2009/12/15/obama-threatens-nebraska-senator-ben-nelson-close-offutt-air-force-base-senate-aide-reports-december-15-2009-senate-health-care-vote-rahm-emanuel-and-white-house-extort-nelsons-vote/

  96. #96
    On December 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm, swede said:

    Some fun facts about Thompson from the Illinois DOC.

    Thomson Correctional Center is a Level 1 adult male maximum-security facility comprised of 1,600 cells and eight housing units. The facility also has a 200-bed minimum-security unit. The facility is 146 acres and consists of 15 buildings, totaling 625,000 square feet. Construction in the cell houses is pre-cast, reinforced cement walls. The facility is enclosed by a 12-foot exterior fence and 15-foot interior fence, which includes a dual sided electric stun fence.

    Currently only the 200-bed minimum-security unit is open with no opening date set for the main complex.

    Thomson Correctional Center was built between May 1999 and November 2001. Its completion cost $140 million, but the state omitted opening costs from the 2002 budget, and Governor George H. Ryan called for a delay to the opening to save $50 million per year in operating costs.[6] By 2009, the total cost to the the state of Illinois exceeded $170 million.

    So the Illinois machine put $170 mil into a facility that has not taken a single prisoner, while pardoning felons because of lack of prison space. Got it. And we need 1600 cells to house the 215 detainees remaining at Gitmo, at $50 mil / year. Okie Dokie.

    How about Gitmo:

    In June 2005, the United States Department of Defense announced that a unit of defense contractor Halliburton would build a new $1 billion USD detention facility and security perimeter around the base.

    Since October 7, 2001, when the current war in Afghanistan began, 775 detainees have been brought to Guantánamo. Of these, approximately 420 have been released without charge. In January 2009, approximately 245 detainees remained. This number has further decreased to 215 by November 2009.

    We already have $1 Bil in Gitmo, and operating cost is essentially zero. We pay the Marines anyway.

    Barry’s reason for doing this is so Muslims will like us better?

    THIS – IS – NUTS.

  97. #97
    On December 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pm, emjem24 said:

    Interesting article but only confirms what is the norm for self-involved, arrogant Dems like Obummer:

    Special favors for special friends.

  98. #98
    On December 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pm, ssnark said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm, swede said:

    Some fun facts about Thompson from the Illinois DOC.

    Sounds like the Chicago way, spend money on a substandard (Level 1 is the lowest security) prison for extremely dangerous men. Put Law Enforcement guards who are trained to deal with criminals in charge of people who aren’t sociopathic and who can work well together and are highly trained.

    Put them in the heartland of the US within striking distance of a major metropolitan area and in the midst of densely populated nearby suburbs

    Abandon a perfectly good Level IV plus facility and trained Marine Guards in an isolated locale for the above.

    This entire recipe for disaster all in the name of transferring money to crony’s in Chicago who will bollux the entire thing. Oh and when it happens it’ll be the Eveeel Booosh’s fault.

    I just hope the casualties when this ball drops will be light.

  99. #99
    On December 16th, 2009 at 8:12 pm, Dan Lee said:

    This is one good possibility for where militia groups could come in handy.. When the day comes that they unleash these animals on the public, (& it will come now that they have lawyers & constitutional rights) militia groups can run surveillance on them without being beholden to any corrupt authority..

  100. #100
    On December 16th, 2009 at 8:27 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On December 16th, 2009 at 8:12 pm, Dan Lee said:

    This is one good possibility for where militia groups could come in handy.. When the day comes that they unleash these animals on the public….

    Before or after the same lawyers hit you with a restraining order?

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