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On December 20th, 2009 at 6:14 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
Tea Party is now the biggest party. How dense are you people anyway?

One more thing…I think Pasadena is confusing the Tea Party with an actual political party. It is not. It takes a lot more than calling something a “Party” to make it one. The reason for the name is historical, not political. I assume he knows that, but I’m just not sure.

On December 20th, 2009 at 2:31 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

Don’t you know that “perfection is the enemy of the good”? See the problem? Conservatives are throwing their votes away voting for those Republicans. That is why the GOP is now the defacto 3rd party. Don’t throw your vote away voting automatically for a Republican.

On December 20th, 2009 at 4:18 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:
Phil, you are a simple-minde, G.D. bore.

On December 20th, 2009 at 4:44 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:
…the belief that the point can be won by relentless repetition to the same audience is extremely grating. As is the opinion that persons not drinking third-party Kool-Aid must necessarily be libs.

On December 20th, 2009 at 6:14 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
Jangar and the rest of you “Republican Uber Alles” zombies. The Republican IS the 3rd party. Conservatives outnumber what is left of your doomed tribe of losers by more than 2 to 1. Do the math. Tea Party is now the biggest party. How dense are you people anyway?

On December 20th, 2009 at 8:54 pm, sbw999 said:
On December 20th, 2009 at 8:43 pm, chapoutier said:

Not that I would ever discourage you all from splitting the vote (by all means!),
There ya go Pasadena and Flyover man…The Socialist Party awaits your willing assistance!!!

O.K. Where to start!! I am sorry I have been away this afternoon because I would have definitely chimed in here. First, Pasadena…Many of your posts are very astute and right-on. But you seem to have a real hang-up against any Republican, no matter who it is. And you are determined that the GOP should go down in flames. Every Conservative voice out there says just the opposite. Rush, Beck, Hannity, Ingraham, and, I believe, Malkin, are all for reforming the GOP, not tossing the baby out with the bathwater. But yet, you have decided you are the authority on the subject and any of us who disagree are morons and, of course, liberal trolls. Your insults are very annoying and unseemly. Why alienate many of the conservatives on this blog by calling them liberals when they don’t march lock-step with your agenda? You are the one sounding like a liberal when you act that way. I haven’t forgotten your insults to me a long time ago when I asked a simple question…”what do you find so wrong with Michael Steele?” It was when he was newly selected as head of the GOP and I thought he was pretty conservative. Of course, I have since found a number of things I don’t like about him, but at the time, I just asked an innocent question. You tore into me like I was crazy. You insulted me, called me a liberal troll. I was really hurt by that. When I asked you to apologize, you said even worse things. Then later, you were all reasonable again, like it had never happened. In my opinion, you have a bit of schizophrenia going on there. Sorry, but I call it as I see it.

Ignatius is right…your constant harping on the subject of third party is getting very tiresome. I would have mentioned that long ago, but Ignatius said it so much better…”Phil, you are a simple-minded, G.D. bore”.

The worst part about it is that it will be nearly impossible to fix it.

We are unlikely to take the Senate at all, since there will only be 18 Democrat seats up for election in 2010. The Democrats will win most of those even if there is a Republican landslide that takes back the House with a substantial majority. Even if we take the Senate, there is the filibuster. And even if a filibuster can be beaten, there is Obama’s veto.

However, there is one thing a conservative House of Representatives could do: Cut off funding. Shut down the federal government.

Since that is what they should do anyway, there really isn’t any problem.

Oh, it’ll create chaos, and the dinosaur media will be blaming conservatives for the chaos every step of the way with an unprecedented bombardment of propaganda, painting Obama as an heroic figure standing against “barbarians” who want to “roll back civilization” and all of that kind of garbage, but it can be done with ‘only’ a landslide in the House.

The primary consideration is not crafting the most sophisticated and intelligent health care reform… it’s getting a bill pushed through before angry voters have a chance to blast the Democrats out of Congress.

The worst part about it is that it will be nearly impossible to fix it. We would need veto- and filibuster-proof majorities in both houses to dismantle this monstrosity.

The bill is not being examined with transparency and careful deliberation by representatives who behave as humble servants of the people and their Constitution. Instead, it’s being hastily rammed through in the dead of night, over the objection of powerful majorities of the American people, with desperate last-minute deals cut to acquire the necessary votes, financed by vast sums of taxpayer money. The primary consideration is not crafting the most sophisticated and intelligent health care reform… it’s getting a bill pushed through before angry voters have a chance to blast the Democrats out of Congress.

And that’s it, in a nutshell.

They have complete and total disdain what the majority of America thinks of this all-time turd of a bill.

It’s like the Senate is taking a club and just clubbing ordinary Americans with it.

This Christmas week will never, ever be forgotten for its betrayal of America by the Senate.

My loathing of them has hit an all time extreme.

Never will I forget, for all my life, what is happening in Washington right now.

I shall continue faxing the “NO to healthcare ‘reform’ until we, The People, see and approve the provisions!” to Washington and the individual State offices of all senators.

I know.  The question is a rhetorical one.  Get over it.
Chris ……

On December 20th, 2009 at 8:19 pm, sbw999 said:
but if you don’t get exactly who it is you want, your advice is to vote for the candidate that has no chance of winning, and allow Obama another 4 years to bury us. God your brilliant!!

Your lack of vision exemplifies the reason “conservatives” are so inept when it comes to politics. The irony is that “conservatives” claim to be the principled ones.
I’ll quote Geffrey Botkin on this:
“Until the Palin selection, McCain did not have the hearts of Evangelical voters. He probably had their votes, however, because he is a Republican. But the campaign wasn’t taking any chances that the ‘fright factor’ would work in November as it has before.
“Fear can go a long way to secure the loyalty of the demographic known in Washington as ‘the Stupid Demographic’: The other candidate is a Democrat. He is therefore scary. Be very afraid. Vote Republican.”
Words of advice from John Quincy Adams:
“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”

On December 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

sbw999: Automatically voting for the Republican no matter what. Genius. If you RINOs insist on warring against us conservatives, you will lose.

Really what are you talking about?? Im glad that you have annointed yourself “Thee Conservative”, a conservative’s conservative, the most interesting conservative in the world. But Ill try to use words that even an argumentative little child like yourself can understand. I WILL vote for the candidate that has the best chance of winning, whether they be from the Tea Party, or the Republican Party. Splitting the vote between two candidates (one conservative, and one not as conservative) that allows the current cancerous administration to survive is nothing but suicide for our Country.

Do you really think that George Bush, as disappointing as he was to conservatives, would have been pushing this health care bill through? Cap and tax? Would Bush have shown up at Copenhagen? Would Bush have waited 3 months to send more troops to Afghanistan, and then only send 75% of what his general had requested? Would he have bowed to sheiks and emporers, while apologizing for America across the globe? Would he have communists advising him? Pedophile supporters in charge of education policy? People in his administration that had Mao as their philosophical influences??? Any lights starting to go on in that dimly lit skull of yours???

So go ahead and you vote for the person that cannot win…but by God, you’ll have showed those awful moderates a thing or two. You can be smugly satisfied as our Country is completely destroyed.