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1. #1
   On December 23rd, 2009 at 11:26 am, RedDog said:

   Cash for Jihadis. Just what we don’t need. Illinis are wising up.

2. #2
   On December 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 am, b-cat said:

   “I thought the reason we fought the war in Iraq was to keep Al-Qaeda in Iraq and in their caves and not on our soil. This move by President Obama represents one of the greatest threats to homeland security in the history of the United States of America,” continued Kelly.

   Not to quibble with someone who appears to be fighting the good fight, but the much greater threat to our security and sovereignty is the wide open borders letting any and all in without even checking for syphillus.

3. #3
   On December 23rd, 2009 at 11:55 am, tre said:

   The Government isn’t listening to us about health care. They won’t listen to us about this either.

4. #4
   On December 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 am, Flyoverman said:

   “Why, why, why this will inject BILLIONS into the local economy and create THOUSANDS of jobs.”

   To guard 100 guys?

   How much does the GITMO facility cost to run? What snake oil is Illinois being sold here.

   Reminds me of the old “kiss me” joke….

5. #5
   On December 23rd, 2009 at 11:58 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

   The people of Illinois should stop worrying-Obama will protect them by reaching out to the jihadists and asking them to not make a big deal out of this. He is a citizen of the world after all.That there is an Illinois Tea Party is a hopeful sign. If only Illinois could overcome Chicago and the Lake Counties corruptocrats they might have a decent state.

   That citizens need the state’s permission to own a firearm says little good about Illinois.

6. #6
   On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:00 pm, md1964 said:

   Danger to the Local Community?? You bet there is!!!

   I can see a Afghanistan like Jihadi attack on the jail, to break out the Goat-Rapers, being planned right now in Dearbornistan, Michigan.

7. #7
   On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm, twofoot said:

   When discussing the directive to purchase and outfit the prison in western Illinois, I heard Robert Gibbs say some nonsense about this decision to move those at Gitmo will not affect their legal status.

   So, if that’s the case Mr Gibbs, why move them?

   They are in a purpose built facility that already suits the needs of prisoners and military. The facility is in perhaps the best location in the world for such a prison. If the prisoners manage to escape the detention facility, where are they going to go? If they manage the not insignificant miracle of escaping the prison, they are in the middle of a US Navy base full of sailors and Marines, not to mention the soldiers at the detention facility itself. Where exactly can they go?

   The prison facility at Gitmo is purpose built to house the scum of the earth. It’s already paid for and has been in operation for years. But Mr Gibbs, you would have us believe its perfectly reasonable to buy an older prison facility in Illinois to house those that want to destroy this nation? Then pay to retrofit that prison to make it suitable to the kind of prisoners you plan on housing there?

   And all this supposedly comes with no change in the legal status of the prisoners? So, again, why move them in the first place?

8. #8
   On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm, rocketman said:

   ***
   HI TWOFOOT–#7.
   ***
   Don’t waste your time trying to convince them with facts. They are on a mission to protect Comrade Obama’s (PBUH) stupid promise to close GITMO and end the cause of the Jihadi’s attacks on our innocent civilians. A little “collateral damage” is acceptable to them. Stupid is as stupid does.
   ***
   A BESLAN style attack on an Illinois school–with a simultaneous attack on the Jihadi prison–may be coming. There is a big Islamic “fifth column” building up in the U.S.A. now. I pray this never happens–but this is how our enemy thinks.
   ***
   The only good news is that if this happens it will be the final nail in the coffin of the Messiah and his congressional ilk.
   ***
   John Bibb
   ***

9. #9
   On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm, Southpaw said:

   I hope they’ve installed anti-helicopter mesh over the prison. How many private and corporate helicopters are within flying distance, waiting to be commandeered for a breakout attempt? In addition, all private planes in the area will have to be secured.
   I can just imagine Eric Holders response to that one:
   “Oh, no. People wouldn’t be crazy or suicidal enough to fly airplanes into buildings on U.S. soil.”

10. #10
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm, Thors_Hammer said:

    It was an interesting day in Sterling on Tuesday. Nice to see a large number of average, hard-working folks show up to the hearing to voice their concerns. As expected, union members were bussed in for the event. I would say they were in the minority, though. No real surprises. Exactly the ‘dog and pony show’ that every clear thinking person around here was expecting.

11. #11
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Kelly, who deeply opposed the plan had this to say: “They say this is about jobs. This is not about jobs. The State of Illinois is better off cutting taxes so that businesses can actually stay in Illinois and create real jobs. Only bankrupt tax and spend politicians would view Al-Qaeda as a jobs program.”

    I love that last line. I could see a comercial. Imagine if you would, a bunch of guys in Afghan garb with beards in orange jumpsuits with a caption that says Obama promised us jobs and here they are courtesy of Al-Qaeda!

12. #12
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The only good news is that if this happens it will be the final nail in the coffin of the Messiah and his congressional ilk.

    He will blame Bush for not having not taken care of the “problem.”

    P.S. I think a terroist attack is likely in that area, but I am sure they know that breaking their people out will be impossible. It will be a one way mission to do something that is horrific as possible.

    A Beslan type attack is a good possibility, rocketman. I agree. You also have the Cordova reactor 20 miles away….. but there are SO MANY targets for them to pick.

13. #13
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm, b-cat said:

    P.S. I think a terroist attack is likely in that area, but I am sure they know that breaking their people out will be impossible. It will be a one way mission to do something that is horrific as possible.

    A Beslan type attack is a good possibility, rocketman. I agree. You also have the Cordova reactor 20 miles away….. but there are SO MANY targets for them to pick.

    They are not limited to that area. They could pull off something horrifying in, say Florida, and justify it by linking to the facility in Illinois. They try to go where no one is looking.

14. #14
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Only bankrupt tax and spend politicians would view Al-Qaeda as a jobs program.”

    Dems: Al-Qaeda are just really really passionate “Community organizers”! They’re as harmless as sea kittens!

15. #15
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm, b-cat said:
    A Beslan type attack is a good possibility, rocketman. I agree. You also have the Cordova reactor 20 miles away….. but there are SO MANY targets for them to pick.

    The Cordova reactor will just be the decoy!

16. #16
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm, Southpaw said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm, b-cat said:

    They are not limited to that area. They could pull off something horrifying in, say Florida, and justify it by linking to the facility in Illinois. They try to go where no one is looking.

    Chicago seems like a more likely target. High P.R. value.

17. #17
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Perhaps. A feint with a strike on a soft target is certainly one option.

    And as mentioned it does not have to be in Illinois. Once they are in the U.S. anything is fair game.

18. #18
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm, Southpaw said:

    Chicago seems like a more likely target. High P.R. value.

    Nah that might give Obama an excuse to not treat them with kid gloves as it would hurt his political cronny base.

19. #19
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm, Southpaw said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Chicago seems like a more likely target. High P.R. value.
    Nah that might give Obama an excuse to not treat them with kid gloves as it would hurt his political cronny base.

    I suppose you’re right. The Chicago Machine is pretty good at buying off enemies to protect its’ cronies.

    You have my sympathies Saint Louis.

20. #20
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm, RedDog said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm, Flyoverman said:
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    Perhaps. A feint with a strike on a soft target is certainly one option.

    All they have to do to lock up our national bowels is stand out in the middle of a major intersection with an AK47 and start firing. Do that once a week, anywhere, and they would have us all running around like Keystone Cops. And they don’t need Gitmo North as a pretext. These cretins are inbred throwbacks capable of anything. Better to profile and limit immigration of muslims into the country. Unless you don’t care about the country, in which case nevermind…

21. #21
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:10 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    It’s stories like this that gives me hope that this is far from over. We haven’t lost yet. Public endangerment. I’d be very interested to hear from someone with a legal background in this area.

22. #22
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:16 pm, John Deaux said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm, twofoot said:

    The prison facility at Gitmo is purpose built to house the scum of the earth.

    The best part of it is that if they ever should escape, they’d be Cuba’s problem.

    As far as an attack, I don’t personally think it’s any more likely than at Gitmo. By and large, these “sleeper cells” aren’t the best and the brightest. They’ll either show their hand prematurely or be taken out quickly should they try an escape. It’s the Fort Hood style jihadist that worries me. It requires little intelligence, causes too much damage and is difficult to defend against.

23. #23
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm, letget said:

    Does the senate have to vote for funds for buying this prison? If so, I wonder if they will do it?
    As for ‘public endagerment’, this bho, team, and the d’s in dc have been seeing to it our Republic is in almost fatal danger since 1/09.
    L

24. #24
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:21 pm, walterc said:

    I remember hearing somthing about a bunch of islamic terrorists attacking a prison in the Pilippines to free some of their friends.

    Just attacked with RPGs, grenades, guns etc, blew a hole int he outer wall and they all walked out (less any that the security teams managed to kill).

    I picture something like this in Illinois when the rest of us are watching a Beslan type diversion. Or possibly some high profile athlete caught cheating on his wife. Or the finals of American Idol.

25. #25
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:27 pm, Hangfire said:

    If we absolutely MUST bring the Gitmo Jihadists to American soil, I can think of no finer place than the formerly great state of Illinois.

    (There is a state representative here in Hawaii that believes bringing the Jihadists to the Big Island would fill them with ALOHA, and they would change their evil ways.)

26. #26
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm, J S Ragman said:

    I don’t know, Hangfire, how many sheep are there on the big island?

27. #27
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Hasn’t that Rep in Hawaii seen that tropical zones just don’t seem to make the Jihadis happy…They have spent all these years at Club Gitmo and still haven’t changed their evil ways. I say send them to the Artic to go collect “global warming” data…

28. #28
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:35 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    I’d prefer one of the smaller Aleutians. But, is there still a leper colony on one of the Hawaiian Islands? Maybe that would be acceptable.

29. #29
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:36 pm, Thors_Hammer said:

    letget, I believe that very topic was brought up during the hearing. If I remember right, some time back, the White House asked for $200 million to be added to the defense budget for ’10. Apparently, Congress balked at that and didn’t make the additional appropriation. If that’s correct, there is NO funding for this project.

30. #30
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    I don’t know, Hangfire, how many sheep are there on the big island?

    72 female lambs? There you go: Jihadi paradise. “I love ewe!”

31. #31
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm, letget said:

    Thors_Hammer,
    Thanks, this might just be the nail on the coffin on this if the funds have not been approved.
    L

32. #32
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:41 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm, Dexter Alarius said:
    I don’t know, Hangfire, how many sheep are there on the big island?
    72 female lambs? There you go: Jihadi paradise. “I love ewe!”

    But it is Hawaii, so they may be promiscuous lamb and not make it as much of a paradise for the Jihadis.

33. #33
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 1:50 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm, Flyoverman said:
    I think a terroist attack is likely in that area, but I am sure they know that breaking their people out will be impossible. It will be a one way mission to do something that is horrific as possible.A Beslan type attack is a good possibility, rocketman. I agree. You also have the Cordova reactor 20 miles away….. but there are SO MANY targets for them to pick.

    Just wait until all the relatives of these prisoners move closeby. They will set up nice little mooslum communities full of jihadi-loving, burqa-wearing, religion of peace, arab-speaking foreigners. Obama will welcome them to America with open arms. How will Illinois feel about that? Illinois, how is that hope and change working for you? Your Chicago-Mafia POTUS is screwing his own home state.

34. #34
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm, Thors_Hammer said:

    Sorry, but I need to explain something about Illinois to my fellow posters here. The state of Illinois is actually two separate states. There is the state of Illinois and there is the “state” of Chicago. Those of us living in the state of Illinois (or downstate Illinois) are pretty down-to-earth, conservative leaning folks. It is the “state” of Chicago that causes the majority of problems for the state of Illinois. Unfortunately, as Chicago goes, so goes Illinois. Please don’t lump us all into one package. You’d like most of us if you got to know us!

35. #35
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm, Thors_Hammer said:

    Believe me, we understand. Most states are like that. Take WA ST, were I live, you have WA ST and then you have the Peoples Republic of Seattle.

36. #36
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm, Truesoldier said:
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm, Thors_Hammer said:
    Believe me, we understand. Most states are like that. Take WA ST, were I live, you have WA ST and then you have the Peoples Republic of Seattle.

    Same with Minnesota. There are a lot of conservatives in the outlying areas. It is generally the inner cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul which are HUGE and have most of the minorities and poor, that are liberal. Unfortunately, their votes seem to count more than the rest of us. Add in the fraud and you have an Al Franken. Sigh.

37. #37
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Happy, I must appologize to you for the AL Franken debacle. You see the frauduelent tricks that were used to get him elected in your state were the brain child of a guy here in WA ST that went out there to help with the recounts. He perfected it here in WA ST in the 2004 Gubenatorial race. Even thought the courts here determined that there were over 2000 illegal votes (the Dem one after 2 recounts by 129 votes)the judge said he could not set the election results aside unless each of the voters who cast the illegal votes came into the court and said who they voted for (yes even the dead, the fictitious, and the multiple vote voters).

38. #38
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm, Southpaw said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm, Truesoldier said:
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm, Thors_Hammer said:
    Believe me, we understand. Most states are like that. Take WA ST, were I live, you have WA ST and then you have the Peoples Republic of Seattle.

    Believe it or not, same in California. Any county that doesn’t touch the Ocean is more conservative. Must be something about the salt air that rots the liberal brain.

39. #39
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm, Truesoldier said:

    December 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm, Southpaw said:

    Believe it or not, same in California. Any county that doesn’t touch the Ocean is more conservative. Must be something about the salt air that rots the liberal brain.

    California is even more differnet than most as it is basically 2 states in the first place and could easily be turned into North and South California. I lived in San Jose for 12 years and my wife lived in Santa Cruz (how she ended up being a Conservative still boggles my mind).

40. #40
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm, Truesoldier said:
    Happy, I must appologize to you for the AL Franken debacle. You see the frauduelent tricks that were used to get him elected in your state were the brain child of a guy here in WA ST that went out there to help with the recounts. He perfected it here in WA ST in the 2004 Gubenatorial race. Even thought the courts here determined that there were over 2000 illegal votes (the Dem one after 2 recounts by 129 votes)the judge said he could not set the election results aside unless each of the voters who cast the illegal votes came into the court and said who they voted for (yes even the dead, the fictitious, and the multiple vote voters).

    Ha!! So, what is wrong with that?? You mean, the fictitious and the dead can’t show up in court? Well, too bad then. The votes stand. That is the logic of the liberals. They are certifiably insane. In Franken’s case, they “found several hundred ballots in someones trunk”, etc. Yeah, all the polls throw the ballots into someone’s trunk and they forget they are there until they are behind and need more votes. It is so blatantly fraudulent, yet they get away with it. Why do we let them??? This treason and corruption has to stop! If we lose our elections, we are done.

41. #41
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:43 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Yeah they are still finding ballots in broom closets and cubby holes in the King County (Seattle) elections department offices, the majority of which are from overseas servicemembers whose votes never were counted. They even discovered that some of the elections workers had taken home batches of provisional ballots the night before and most of the extra votes were provisional ballots…gee could they be one and the same?

42. #42
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:47 pm, Southpaw said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm, Truesoldier said:
    California is even more differnet than most as it is basically 2 states in the first place and could easily be turned into North and South California. I lived in San Jose for 12 years and my wife lived in Santa Cruz (how she ended up being a Conservative still boggles my mind).

    It can also be divided between east and west. If you look at the voting pattern for the vote against gay marriage, it is quite surprising:

    http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2008_general/maps/returns/props/prop-8.htm

    The McCain/Obama map looks similar, with a few variations.

43. #43
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Oh I know. My wife stillhas family in California, so we get allot of stories emailed to us. We left we I went back into the military in 1999. Now we are in WA ST and if it weren’t for Seattle (and to a lesser extent Olympia) it would be a great place to live.

44. #44
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 3:22 pm, Hangfire said:

    Speaking of 72 virgins…………..

    I notice that the number of suicide bombings have dropped dramatically since Susan Boyle has put out her CD.

    Maybe they think that virgins aren’t all that they’re cracked up to be.

45. #45
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Maybe they think that virgins aren’t all that they’re cracked up to be.

    Pun intended?

46. #46
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 3:29 pm, Hangfire said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm, Southpaw said:
    

    Believe it or not, same in California. Any county that doesn’t touch the Ocean is more conservative. Must be something about the salt air that rots the liberal brain.

    Then that’s the problem with the People’s Republic of Hawaii!!!! ALL of our counties touch water.

    And a lot of our legislators LEFT California and moved here back in the 60′s.

    The bastards didn’t start moving to Puget Sound until the ’90s.

    One of our U.S. Representatives had to cut his ponytail when he moved to D.C. He kept his beard, though. I think Abercrombie is the only one with a beard.

47. #47
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm, Hangfire said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Pun intended?

    Moi?

48. #48
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm, Hangfire said:

    

49. #49
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm, jamesgreenidge said:

    I sure hope the families of the workers in that prison won’t rue the day when the fanatic friends of these animals kidnap them in their homes to blackmail their prison worker members to help stage an escape or hold them for ransom to get their bloody buddies released.

    James Greenidge
    Queens NY

50. #50
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 4:31 pm, tbear44 said:

    If I was a terrorist housed at Gitmo it would piss me off to have to move to Gitmo North. Brrr!

51. #51
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 4:32 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 3:22 pm, Hangfire said:
    Speaking of 72 virgins…………..

    I notice that the number of suicide bombings have dropped dramatically since Susan Boyle has put out her CD.

    Maybe they think that virgins aren’t all that they’re cracked up to be.

    Just listen to her CD the same way you
    listen to the phone sex operator, close your eyes and imagine Tuesday Weld!

52. #52
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 4:42 pm, Hangfire said:

    Tuesday Weld is a phone sex operator?

    Dang, that’s a long way from Serial.

53. #53
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 4:52 pm, Savage24 said:

    We should revert to the law of the old west, string up everyone of these corruptocrats.

54. #54
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 6:22 pm, madshark said:

    On December 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm,
    

    Truesoldier said:
    California is even more differnet than most as it is basically 2 states in the first place and could easily be turned into North and South California. I lived in San Jose for 12 years and my wife lived in Santa Cruz (how she ended up being a Conservative still boggles my mind).

    I attended UCSC (affectionately known as Uncle Charlie’s Summer Camp) between 1973 and 1976. If anything, associating with those radical leftists made me the conservative that I am today. I eventually transferred schools and graduated with my bachelor’s degree elsewhere, but one notable UCSC graduate who is conservative is Victor Davis Hanson.

    Back on topic: when the Thomson prison was built, it likely went through public hearings and an environmental clearance. My guess is that what was originally anticipated for that prison was not the housing of Gitmo detainees; I would wonder if there would be potential legal challenges for violation of whatever environmental finding was made.

55. #55
    On December 23rd, 2009 at 10:36 pm, chicagojedi said:

    Illinois has such a great record on keeping normal felons in jail. Like this time. Can’t wait to see what hardened and trained terrorists do. Especially right by a nuclear power plant. Oh, and all those jobs for Illinois residents people like Durbin were bragging about? 99% will probably go to out-of-state federal employees and Iowa residents.