Incident on NWA Flight 253? Update: suspect claims al Qaeda direction; Update: An attempted act of terror
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Via BNONews, a passenger on Detroit-bound NWA Flight 253 was arrested in what MAY have been an attempted hijacking. Also reports that the suspect may have attenpted to light something.
TSA and FBI investigating.
Update: MSNBC retracting story, according to BNONews.
FoxNews and other reporting the arrested passenger lit firecrackers. ABC News reporting incident involved powdery substance.
Update: Nigerian suspect claims he was directed by al Qaeda, according to ABC News.
Reminiscent of Shoe Bomber Richard Reid, no?
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In what was described as an act of terrorism, a Nigerian passenger attempted to ignite an incendiary device aboard a Northwest Airlines flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Friday as the plane began its approach for landing, federal officials said. The plane landed safely shortly before noon local time.
The suspected would-be bomber suffered burns as the result of his attempt, and two of the other 277 passengers reported minor injuries, authorities said. FBI agents were investigating the incident, which a White House official said was believed to be terrorism.
“He was trying to ignite some kind of incendiary device,” said a federal anti-terrorism official, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case. “He lit himself on fire and he’s suffered some burns.”
The official did not reveal the nature of the explosive device and said it was too early to say how potent or sophisticated it was. The passenger has been identified as a Nigerian who began traveling from Nigeria and caught the flight in Amsterdam, the anti-terrorism official said.
Victim card/lone nut card in 3, 2, 1…
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HI SSNARK–#95. I saw demolition / EOD personnel use primacord a few times when I was in the Army long ago. It was pretty impressive stuff–cutting power poles in half, blowing out no longer needed reinforced concrete blast protection walls, etc. I seem to remember that PETN was used in it–a little bit went a long way.
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I don’t think you buy this at WalMart–or make it from stuff you can buy at your local beauty supply store! The passengers and crew really dodged a bullet on this attack.
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John Bibb
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On December 26th, 2009 at 7:07 pm, rocketman said:
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That’s the stuff alright, and no you don’t get it at WalMart, but except in the USA, in a lot of places it’s used in lieu of bulldozers and chainsaws. So, not too hard to get a hold of if you know where and how. But the amount he was carrying would have been more than enough to breach the plane’s skin. However, given his seated position, the location of the explosives (in his underwear) and the tamping factor of his body most of the explosion would have been directed upwards and a hull breach unlikely. Still, this should not be taken lightly.
According to this AP article, his father warned the US Embassy in November, yet it wasn’t enough to yank his visa.
…and obviously not enough for anyone to pay more attention to him such as where he traveled and how.
Here was a guy that was in a database, but not the right database it seems, who was warned about last month, yet he is still flying pretty much care-free.
Yeah I think I will be a little PO’d next time I get some TSA snot complaining I didn’t take my laptop out of the bag, need to take my shoes off and put my belt in the container…then pulled aside for extra screening as my laptop and other valuables are left on the screening chute for anyone to paw through them.
Oh, and Jug Ears is still sunning himself on a rock in Hawaii.
I have been reading DU comments for laughs since this happened. I have seen everything from it being some sort of Cheney/Rove plot to comments (more than a few) about the suspicious timing of it of it occurring in the midst of the healthcare debate. Two words that are real scarce though are “muslim” and “terrorist”. Oh, another word that is hard to find is “Obama”. If it had happened before his election you can be sure Bush policy would have been all over the comments.
Let’s see, enemy combatant not in uniform attempts to sabotage a commercial airline. Sounds pretty straight forward to me. Any questions?
The next few days will bring:
1. A statement by the msm not to rush to judgment. He could have been a rogue Nigerian just mad that his soda was warm, or wanting to celebrate the July 4th holiday a bit early.
2. ACLU steps in to investigate possible lawsuit as the terrorist sustained a bloody lip while terrified passengers tried to prevent him from killing all of them 5000 feet above Michigan.
3. He will get 5 US attorneys working for free to put the US on trial. Was he justified in doing this?? We must know! Did he have Miranda rights read to him??? Did the airline do enough to make sure that if a terrorist tried to blow up a plane, that agitated vigilante passengers were not able to attack him.
4. Shortly he will sue the airline, the hospital, the US govt and certain passengers because his burns were not attended to quick enough, causing him untold pain and suffering.
5. At taxpayer expense he will be given round the clock care. His interrogation will consist of threatening not to fluff his pillow at night before he goes to sleep.
See Election, 2008 and Election, 2006 as proof.
The one thing that gives me comfort is that the people of DU(one extreme) and the people at this site(the other extreme) are just a very small fraction of America. I’m glad that neither of you matter much nor do your opinions.
Most of us aren’t in denial like DU type people and most of us don’t want to kill all brown people and bash(or kill) the President like wingnuts.
I’ve noticed a lot of the comments on some of the liberal blogs are saying that it was just an “attempted” act of terrorism and not an “actual” act of terrorism.
I would have to say that if I would have been on that plane that it would have terrorised me ….. And I believe other people would have felt threatened and terrorised as well.
To the liberals I would say ask the people that were there how they felt.
Another attention starved little troll surfaces.
On December 26th, 2009 at 10:10 pm, moonshot said:
I rather hope that you’re wrong. I like to think that the people at DU are the very vocal minority and that the people that I associate with are a majority in the process of finding its voice. A voice separate from partisan politics that has led us astray from the ideals of our founding fathers.
I agree with you about most of us not being in denial and would have used the term like wingnuts for the descriptor of Democratic Underground people.
Ok, convince me that most of those here want to kill all brown people. I’ve spent most of my life (some 30 years all told) defending this country and perhaps understandably resent the implications of your post.
As to Mr. Obama, he doesn’t need bashing, he regularly and routinely bashes himself with his own words, broken promises and paralysis of action except where it comes to bullying weak kneed, lily livered, spineless, pusillanimous, morally and ethically bankrupt fellow politicians in this country. I might add that I’ve not read a single threat to the life of Mr. Obama here which parenthetically makes you someone whose veracity is dubious at best.
So some of you do want to kill all brown people. Sick. Huffpo’s calling for more posters ya know.
6. Get Arne Duncan to find out why we haven’t been building schools in Nigeria.
7. Get Secretary Gates to investigate what our troops have done in Nigeria to cause this.
On December 26th, 2009 at 11:48 pm, Mojave Mark said:
Please, by all means, make yourself at home on Huffington Post.
When you’re drawing inferences about a general group. You can’t be absolute in any statement. That’s unfortunately not true of people who post on Huffington Post, Daily Kos and elsewhere. Try to keep a dose of reality dude/dudette/whatever and understand that there are no absolutes in human group dynamics/behaviors/beliefs/emotions.
Sort of OT, but Senate coal thread been dead over 2 days.
Max Baucus drunk and incoherent on Senate floor.
Does anyone know if he was Mirandized?
After all, we are a civilized law-and-order nation.
Why don’t you make it your mission in life to ask his fellow passengers.
I’m sure every one of them are VERY concerned over whether he was Mirandized or not.
Well, every passenger ought to at least get a turn to ‘tell’ the bomber how they ‘feeeeel’ about almost being murdered by him. Perhaps with him chained to a chair in a closed room?
Or something like that…
(the Mikkelsons lamely tag it as just a ‘false rumor’ – yeah whatever….)
Please remember that TSA (and the equivalent organizations around the world) is nothing but a giant employment program not filled with the best and brightest. The fact that we haven’t had many planes go down has little to do with the effectiveness of airline security and everything to do with the lack of attempts. People carrying “dangerous” items aboard aircraft don’t cause terrorist events, terrorists aboard aircraft cause terrorist events.
On December 26th, 2009 at 9:09 pm, sbw999 said:
He may have been on his ‘holiday’ pilgrimage to Dearborn, MI, to worship the moon god…so lighten up people!
Has the president made any kind of statement about this attack, either to condemn it or to give a shout out to his muslim brothers?
oh wait, he’s busy displaying his manboobs on the beach.
Two days and no statement? Gibbs doesn’t count. Remember the libs whining about Bush continuing to read to those kids and not run out of the classroom screaming?
It’s been two days, not nine minutes with no response from from barry. Guess he’s in line at the Hukilau.
how did this piece of crap get into a position of power?
During the ’70s, when terrorist nuts were hijacking planes, passenger sat in their seats doing nothing and the airline industry didn’t feel that it was cost effective to secure the cockpits. After 9/11, the doors could not be secured fast enough because the flying public didn’t want to pay to be blown up. And the gov added plies of useless, time wasting searches. Now we learn that there were all sorts of red flags around this nut job and our gov couldn’t seen to have the time or inclination to have his name added to the no fly list. As a result of an office glich, all passengers will need to go to airport for a strip search and be duct-taped to the seat. The response to terrorists acts seems to be more layers of stupid conducted by the stupid!
White guilt, black racism and a Slobbering Love Affair with the media?
*Expect P-BO and his Communist Clown Cluster to worry more about the political fallout than about prevention moving forward and saving American lives; And don’t ever expect them to give up their politically correct mantra that these are isolated incidents caused by crazed individuals; As I have said so many times, we are dealing with a 7th century invented religion of death cult savages intent on destroying the western world, no more, no less; The truth hurts, but political correctness kills, and this administration is allowing it to happen time and time again; An enemy within?, or incompetence?; Either way spells disaster for the USA; Wake up America!
joannmandolin said:
Answer to your question:
Good enough?
Same thing in public school. One screws up and everybody’s got to suffer. More pc-ness, cuz we’re nice folk. It’s a government thing.
On December 27th, 2009 at 11:03 am, rambler said:
I couldn’t agree with you more.
BOB
You forgot to mention giving the MSM a ‘tingly’ feeling up and down their legs.
It was urine.
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In an unrelated story TSA has just ordered 50 million procto exam gloves, 10 million tubes of K-Y jelly, and is rotating all personnel through strip search and cavity search school! (Not!)
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Enjoy your next flight in the friendly skies! As for me–if I hear glove snapping sounds when I’m waiting in line at the security screening checkpoint–I’ll turn around and drive instead.
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No terrorists in the back seat of my SUV. No Allah Akbars in the non-existent toilet in my SUV either. And I won’t have to call the State Department to see if any fellow passengers (wife and dog) are Jihadis in their worthless computer data base.
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I think God saved the passengers on this flight. Driving looks better all the time to me.
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John Bibb
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rocketman said:
Fixed it for you. Simpler is betterer.
I disagree. That would be the lazy conclusion. This occurred due to years of “progressive” efforts to diminish the truth and common sense of a complacent public.
The Lame Stream Media (starting with Hollywood, then Advertisements, then the News) and our educational system have been the forerunners of the cause.
If we purge our Educational system of political lies and indoctrination, then require “honest” news reporting, then eliminate communist organizations (i.e. ACLU), we may be able to recover from this cancerous “sickness” called communism and return the USA back to the greatest country on the planet.
However, if we continue on this “PC correct” path, we will become the USSA (United Socialists States of America).
Something just occured to me…
…only 1 in every 5 will get lubed?
OOPS!. In my previous quote *#136), I added the wrong quote. It should have been the following:
I disagree. That would be the lazy conclusion. This occurred due to years of “progressive” efforts to diminish the truth and common sense of a complacent public.
The Lame Stream Media (starting with Hollywood, then Advertisements, then the News) and our educational system have been the forerunners of the cause.
If we purge our Educational system of political lies and indoctrination, then require “honest” news reporting, then eliminate communist organizations (i.e. ACLU), we may be able to recover from this cancerous “sickness” called communism and return the USA back to the greatest country on the planet.
However, if we continue on this “PC correct” path, we will become the USSA (United Socialists States of America).
JamieD commented on:
and…
Whichever works. “Stupid is as stupid does.”
-PFC. Gump
Very true. They have been very patient, working in the background, for this year, to push liberal/socialism.
You’ll probably never have real “honest” reporting. Ever since the second newspaper came out, to compete with the first newspaper, they have promoted their own political views.
“The American Voter is a drooling imbecile, or hadn’t you noticed?”
Sorry but I disagree. Are some voters mindless? Yes. ALL voters? Let’s hope not. Because the place in which our future lies is in the hands of those very voters. Either you trust Americans in general will do the right thing or if folks can’t do the right thing for themselves you by default need to have a government which controls those drooling imbeciles.
Which is it?
People can be trusted in general so that we can have smaller government, less oppressive government OR people are drooling imbeciles and need someone older and wiser telling them what to do?
If you’re a “drooling imbecile” willing to to jump off a cliff with the other lemmings,
THANK A LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE TEACHER AND THE SOCIALIST PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM!
“The American Voter is a drooling imbecile, or hadn’t you noticed”?
not to mention Acorn fraud, campaign finance fraud, voter fraud, driving around Ohio voting every freakin’ day fraud, all manner of thuggery and buggery…
Hotair is reporting that
the commie ‘n chief has spent the last two days playing golf and going to the gym.
barry lowered us from “The terrorists will be hearing from us’
to ‘ain’t no thang, just thug thizzlin’.
Since Jan 2009
Islam 2
Americans 0
Is this a photo of Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab?
Seems that MSM is going WAY out of its way to NOT show a photo of the POS?
So the American people can’t be trusted and we need to elect an oppressive government, a government that will oppress the way WE want. The problem isn’t that we have a government that oppresses. The problem is when the oppressive government is liberal and leftist?
As long as the government oppresses the way we want, we are happy little clams?
So if the government made everyone have a Nativity Scene we’d be ok with that. The problem is when the government forces everyone to NOT have a Nativity Scene?
Big government which by definition and its mere existence is oppressive is ok as long as it looks conservative?
Ah, that worked real well for the last round of “Republicans” hey?
What did you expect from Obama bin Lyin’?
Or at least those who believe that eliminating forensic proof by using electronic voting equipment doesn’t make it a lot easier to rig elections.
In my efforts to find out if the president had made a statement regarding the ‘Overseas contingency operation’ coming home to roost in Detroit, I went to msnbc.
Their earlier headline was
“Jetliner attack suspect is very honest person”
Curently it’s
“Bomb Subject’s Family Dismayed”.
Howzabout “America weakened and screwed by golf playing Community Organizer”
“Umar Farouk (Leroy) Abdul Mutallab was always such a nice boy”
*Napalitano, part of the Communist Clown Cluster in D.C., has come out to say “the system worked”; I guess today the emphasis is on the “clown” part of the equation; Is she coming from an alternate reality or what?; Insane!!
I think Obama, Holder and Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab can settle this thing over a beer…
Somebody explain to me how anyone in their right mind can say “the system worked”.
The only thing that “worked” here was the terrorist’s inability to get the explosive device to “work”.
I agree. One flight I take usually lasts 1 hour 20 minutes. I guess anyone needing to use the restroom must do so within that first 20 minutes.
Maybe even less than that since Bawney Fwank would become a frequent flier just for the generous cavity searches before the flight.
Congress needs to hold hearings into this immediately, and this damn fool needs to be one of the highlights.
Do you have a link to an article? I’d like to see what other asinine comments she made….like how she could claim any system that allowed a jihadi bomber to light his bomb and a landing aircraft worked. Or how a civilian could take him down instead of a Federal Air Marshall could possibly be construed as working.
This kind of stupidity ensures a plane will be going in.
It’s amazing/appalling the hoops that a small bunch of fanatics has this country jumping thru! Instead of accommodating them we ought simply covertly ferret and WIPE THEM OUT! Do the Israeli (Sword of Gideon?) assassination route stealth style! One bullet one hit! Neighbors won’t even know our SEALS/Delta/ Berets/X-Force were even next door snuffing out the bastards.
James Greenidge
Queens NY
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and a landing aircraft = on a landing aircraft.
…and to add, PETA will need to be added to TSA for the cavity searches for Bawney to ensure any gerbils or hamsters found will be treated humanely.
Never gonna happen. Too busy socializing us and running for re-election.
A couple of you seem to have misconstrued the meaning of my comment.
I used the singlular: “The American Voter.” This means I was speaking of the average, the election result, not every individual in the class. I was speaking of the class of people considered as a whole.
If you think the election results in 2006 and especially in 2008 are not proof positive of the ongoing imbecility of that class of people, then perhaps you belong to that class.
However, I figure you just misunderstood my meaning. I am inclined to think there are very few people who comment here who don’t realize just how incredibly stupid the American Voter was in 2006 and 2008.
I agree with you completely the only real hope for the world is still the American Voter.
Consider that truth and pray.
Same thing can be said of Obama’s legitimacy to run for President.
What would make anyone think that a Democrat controlled Congress would give a rat’s a$$ about doing their job? They haven’t yet, at least on the left side of the isle.
Republicanvet: She made the statement on “State of the Union” with Candy Crowley; There’s more on Sweetness & Light.
Thanks bjc. I see our gracious hostess has added a separate post on this…as it should be since this needs to go in the permanent memory file for when the next attack occurs.
Sheeesh. Even I do it.
It should have read: “If you think the election results in 2006 and especially in 2008 are not proof positive of the ongoing imbecility of that class of people as a whole, then perhaps you are one of the members of the class that make it so imbecilic.”
Of course we both belong to that class (the class of American voters). We are among the people in that class who do not represent the class, since the class does not choose to elect the kind of leadership we think it should.
Idiot. The hostess here is brown. Many posters here are brown and some are black. Others are or were married to brown and black spouses and have brown and black children. I repeat. Idiot.