CrotchBomberGate report: What’s missing
President Obama had his teleprompter tuned up this afternoon and apparently sipped a bit of Red Bull before taking another stab at making an I’m Really, Really Serious This Time statement about the UndyBomber case. Resolve does not come naturally in this White House.
You can read the brief, 6-page “security review” released by the White House here.
This is the sum total of what the review says about Abdulmutallab’s visa:
As I’ve been noting the past week on Fox, all of the discussion about airline security, intelligence-sharing, and connecting the dots has given short shrift to the atrociously lax visa issuance policies at the State Department. My column tomorrow will go into these failures more in-depth, but for now, you can watch some of my remarks on the subject from Fox and Friends last week and Hannity last night:
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Same old same old from Obammy. Where was the “shock” that the White House spoke of in this speech?
Janet Napalitano owes an apology to this country, as the President noted, “the system” did not work!
At least Obama gave mention to Al Qaeda, but not “radical Islam.”
I bet those jihadist are really scared about trying something now. That speech was will surely keep us safe…/sarc
And the BS spewed by our now know liar president doesn’t change a thing. The plane came within an inch of it’s life of being destroyed and the people on it …
All you need know is what would have happened if the Bush administration had the exact same thing happen on Bush’ watch.
we know what is going on, it’s obvious — the rehabilitation and self esteem program for Muslim suicide bombers isn’t working … Only a complete dunce, or an ideological fool, thinks that words mean anything to these terrorists.
J-No and that other guy are co-opting Glenn Beck. I set the DVR for midnight show–NO DAMN LIBERALS ON CONSERVATIVE TIME SLOTS.
I guess they want body scanners as NO TSA agents will pat down Rosie O’Donnell or Whoppie Goldberg. And who would put their hand on Chris Matthews leg? Ugh. But then if we would stop letting young men named Mohamed from terrorist sponsoring states or California into the country we could radically reduce the threat. I know that would confuse the NBA but that is their problem.
My question is not how he got through airport security, but why in the h*ll is he given a visa in the first place? That seems to be completely overlooked. Tighten up the d*mn visa approval process to ensure we weed out 99% of all potential terrorists (ie if there is any inkling they might even be remotely related to a terrorist, DENY THE VISA). Quit inconveniencing Americans (and costing us $ to provide security) in order not to hurt the feelings of some muslim immigrant. It’s a privilege to come to America, not a RIGHT.
It is so obvious that Big Sis is terribly unqualified and completely incompetent.
Dennis Miller:
I have the Hindenburg Fire documentary: The System Worked
That’s because The B.O. doesn’t believe there is such a thing as radical Islam. Being Muslim himself, he is doing everything he can to re-educate the masses.
This type of stupidity is similar to when Hoover ran the FBI. He didn’t believe the Mafia existed (or much of organized crime) and never used the term. The nutty part was the agents knew and were the ones that had to suffer through his idiocy.
Just the way we are with Obrainless.
A MISSPELLING!!!
GEEEEZZZZZZZ. Why didn’t he just go for the old – “A dog ate my teleprompter.”
Obama blaming it on a right wing conspiracy to make him look bad in 3..2..1..
I would like to have a dollar for every memo like Obama’s I read while in government service.
It never dawns on them that havng all of the agencies mentioned in the memo just might be the root cause of the problem.
Whoever, proposed the DHS should be charged with giving aid and comfort to the enemy. When it was formed and a governor was put in charge (Tom Ridge)you knew it would be as effective as a snowball thrown at a tank.
Michelle has nailed it. One hour after that father appeared at the embassy his son’s visa should have been pulled pending an investigation. Not pulling it “without due process” is in a word, INSANE!
I have an idea. Let’s ask the State Department to continue the Diversity visas from countries with names like Mohammed.
The reason Israel takes this seriously and we don’t is because they’ve experienced the reality of people wanting to kill you and killing you based solely on your race and religion. We still find it hard to fathom. When these fanatics start killing our children in our schools, we’ll see it differently. The only thing that has stopped it from happening on a larger scale (more incidents) is that our citizens have guns. Speaking of guns, I got a sig sauer .380 for Christmas. Merry, Merry!
Michelle, never saw the photo of the actual panties of the Pantybomber. it appears he wore bikini briefs of an odd putrid color and had quite the package that screeners missed. Thanks for this imprint on what little is left of my brain!
Really, thanks for all you do, Michelle, as I know, from reading your blog, that we know more detail and information than the rest of the American public who rely on CNN and others.You rock!
What a huge case of if-dog-rabbit. If Bho and his party happy cronies had actually been as concerned about national security as they have been about ramming every socialist idea down our throats, this whole thing might not have happened.
So, I guess Obummer gave a “Shout Out” to Al Qaeda.
I was under the impression that DHS was created for the sole purpose of coordinating/sharing intelligence between the different agencies.
Of course we all knew it would turn into another red tape factory.
Excellent comments Michelle. I think Rush may be getting his wish, all indications are that this administration is a complete failure. They are infesting DC to enrich themselves, at that, they will probably be successful. As for the country, we’re screwed.
By the way, I heard one report that the photo of the undies being circulated by this deceptive administration is not the actual bomb. I won’t get into details but I trust the people who informed me of this fact.
since the gang known as al queda claimed responsibility for 911, they are the only terrorists out there. it’s like you la residents, only ms13 are gangsters, all those other crips, bloods, gangster disciples, hells angels etc are just wanna be criminals not worthy of concern until the kill someone, and then we will read them their rights.
The shock was that Obama actually appeared more animated when talking about national security than usual.
Can’t you just see Muslim men letting their wives, daughters, etc. go through a body scanner??
Oh yes, I can picture it now.Cair, ACLU screaming about religious belilefs, and Muslim rights being trampled on. Soooo Muslims get no body scans, and evil Christians do, as usual!!!
That will be one heck of a scene! Camera phones at the ready…
I’m sorry but his statement is not clear to me. Obama, can you please be clear when speaking? I seem to have this issue a lot as he doesn’t seem to be clear on things.
Can you clear that up for me?
After the shoe-bomber, we had to start removing our shoes to pass through security.
What are their plans for us after the skivvy bomber?
Are we to remove skivvies prior to going through security?
I have no real desire to show the world my shortcomings.
James Rosen’s report tonight on FOX 6pm News was alarming, with John Bolton’s comments (paraphrased):
Security satellites are now following freaking “ice floes” rather than some terrorist camps—tracking that dreaded foe of global warming. This gives us warmth and security, right?
I knew that global warming would impact my taxes, but had not thought of it impacting our security. It does.
The CIA Director, Leon Panetta (from the Clinton days) supports the satellite tracking. I think it is time to give them hell.
Maybe this has been said, and if so apologies. Obama actually said we were at war. If that’s the case whey are our enemies being tried in NYC?
Stay tuned: Body cavity searches for everyone, even you, Grandma…We absolutely refuse to single out anyone. The TSA will hold the line by refusing to profile no matter what pressure or common sense dictates.
Off microphone: See, I did it just like you said…can I be invited to your ACLU cocktail party now?
What’s missing? Names and addresses.
Surely an issue like NATIONAL SECURITY is important to the citizenry. We could go to them try to convince them to change their behavior in order to protect us.
You know, like Union Card Check Workers could knock on your door and ask you to change your mind about your vote? Or like the activists who visited people that voted against Prop. 8 in California and then disrupted the voter’s business. National Security is at least as important as gay rights and card check, isn’t it?
Has he registered as a community organizer yet
Or a democrat / welfare
Or maybe a Census canvasser
I mean if he gets an OJ / Mohammed jury he is going to need some employment while his lawsuit against america makes it way through the court system
if we are at war as the president said then why isn’t the bomber being treated as a prisoner of war instead of being afforded all the rights of a common criminal?? And why didn’t any reporter ask this??
P.S. I haven’t read happyscrapper (the other happy) here in ahwile, I hope she’s OK.
That was my question too mikeg
sorry Misscheryl didn’t see your post until too late
but you asked it in a much better way than I did Mikeg
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Taking care of BVD bombers is easy. Just require that all persons in line at the “security” checkpoint remove all clothing and put them in the box with the shoes, etc.
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Then have them bend over and “crack a smile” for the TSA screeners to check for any fuzes sticking out from various cavities. A bunch of procto exam gloves, K-Y jelly, and baby wipes will be available for secondary searches of people selected due to suspicious behavior, questionable documentation, good looks, random probability, screener mental state, etc.
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Look out for the cold dog noses during this process. No expensive high tech equipment required.
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This plan is at least a good as the ones we are using now. And it will definitely reduce wait time in lines as most people drive instead of flying. And the jet fuel and pollution savings will be tremendous.
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John Bibb
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“It’s a dog-eat-dog world out there, Sammy, and I’m wearing Milkbone underwear.”
-Norm
Wow, the day they implement your plan is the day I stop flying. You know they only pick on old white ladies.
One of the many reasons the left wants these terrorist tried in a civilian court is that the american system can be turned on its head by the process
They can impune the military
They can turn the whole process into a circus
They can get an OJ jury and laugh as they are set free
These are just a few of the reasons
Do we scan muslim children with these scanners?
If not how do we search muslim kids?
This is a bit delicate but how do these scanners show feminine hygiene products?
Can an hourly employee actually tell the difference between a pad and a crotch full of explosives?
Really
Do you trust that they can?
And how do women feel about that level of invasion? Do you care who sees that image?
And don’t forget that they think this will take down Bush and Cheney.
Will there be a “print” button next to the “scan” button?
Tiger, yep
As always Obama inherited everything
Unless it he thinks its a good thing, then he created that
Of course
Sun rises in the morning
Obama responsible
Muslim terrorist blows self and others up
See Bush
You know, for a family man taking his family on vaction this shouldn’t be rocket science or a Gordian knot; is someone’s brief embarassment more important than my family being blasted to hell forever? Someone do the sanity math, please!
James Greenidge
Queens NY
Do you really want one? I fly all the time and don’t think I would care to see 99% of those flying along side me. Besides, that black/gray/white picture leaves a little lacking in the sexy department.
Wow. A sluggish and inefficient bureaucracy. Who would have ever guessed?
Let’s make government bigger. That’s always the best answer.
So much for the “They hate us because we’re free” theories.
The corruption and incompetence start at the top, “Oblame-a.” Oh for the days when adults were in charge and didn’t fear using their authority to do what was necessary.
When it comes to national security and/or the war against terror, Obama is all yack and no sack. At root, he just doesn’t care. The allegedly alleged suspects are people in need, the victims are not. What more is there to say? It’s all a yawn and a distraction to him — as long as his precious posterior is preserved.
The State Department issued the visa. Enquiring minds like mine want to know:
What type of visa.
When was it issued.
Which embassy issued it.
Who was the adjudicating officer that approved the visa.
And where in the He!! is foggy bottom? Is she like the Secretary of State or something?
I’m sure Janack Obamitano will throw something against the wall and see what sticks.
Will we finally get to see beneath the burka?
Full body scanners for Muslim woman?
If we cannot keep a Muzzie from damaging this country from the Whitehouse what makes you think we are going to keep a Muzzie from damaging this country from an airplane?
Those will be right next to the “image capture” and “post to Facebook” buttons.
Miss Malkin, TIP:
Happening in my country now (Malaysia) because Roman Catholics want to retain the right to use ‘Allah’ to refer to God in their Malay language Bibles and publications, whereas Muslims claim exclusive use.
Malaysia church torched amid Allah row
http://www.malaysia-today.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29463:malaysia-church-torched-amid-allah-row&catid=21:special-reports&Itemid=100135
Judiciary website hacked over ‘Allah’ issue
http://www.malaysia-today.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29462:judiciary-website-hacked-over-allah-issue&catid=19:newscommentaries&Itemid=100131
EDITOR’S NOTE
We were also told that eight churches were attacked, one an attempted arson, but we are yet to get confirmation about the matter.
*This administration does not want to get to the root cause problem, same as the last administration; First identify the root cause problem, which is a 7th century invented religion of death cult savages(Check the news daily and you will see the slaughter of the innocents 24/7/365 around the globe); After that, put all emphasis on prevention, as El Al does.
*You cannot possibly address a problem if you don’t properly identify it first; The truth hurts, but political correctness kills!
In of all places, the Washington post had this to say about the latest Obama & Company news conference regarding the BVD bomber. Oddly enough I agree with some of what has been said here. Regarding Mr. Obama’s statement that “I’m directing that our intelligence community immediately begin assigning specific responsibility for investigating all leads on high-priority threats so that these leads are pursued and acted upon aggressively, not just most of the time but all of the time.” Mr Milbank retorts, “Um, you mean we weren’t doing that already?” I totally agree with him. During the reign of the initial Incompetent In Charge Tom Ridge, databases were being mined by analytic/data mining software to make sure that there was to be follow-up and before that to assure that we could identify “high risk targets/high priority threats” Apparently thousands of man-hours has gone to naught. Somewhere along the line those projects were either re-tasked, re-vised or just plain lost in the political theater that is DHS. Later on in the news conference held by John Brennan and Janet Napolitano provided their Mea Culpas and Ms. Napolitano looked like she was doing a rosary throughout her speech and imploring heaven to let her keep her job. One of the explanations given by Mr. Brenner really got my goat though. It was in his answer to WSJ reporter Jonathan Weisman who asked, why we hadn’t connected the dots.
Brennan’s dissembling remarks that went the long way around saying things like,”dots in separate databases”, “husbanding of those dots”, “making sure that we can leverage the access to those dots.” and finally the kicker, “access to more of those dots”
No wonder they can’t make hide nor hair of anything especially terrorist threat evaluations. First, if you come into an environment that is intelligence intensive, shouldn’t you make sure that your intelligence people are;
1.) Collecting All Source Intelligence from all available sources.
2.) Analyzing and correlating the intelligence gathered (‘husbanding the dots’)
3.) Warehousing the raw data for other analysts to use and to share with one another (“making sure that we can leverage the access to those dots.”)
4.) Know that the only truly ‘hard intelligence’ is an historical fact you never will have perfect intelligence so in the end, you’ll have to use your judgement and deductive, inductive reasoning and intuition to make your best guess at what you’ve got in the way of threat(s).
Not rocket science by any means. Brennan as a former CIA Politcal Officer, Terrorism Analyst, and Chief of Analysis should have known not just that DHS and its intelligence arms were not doing what they should have been, but he should also have known how to accomplish what needed to be done in a very short time (less than 1 year). If Brennan knew and given his 25 years of experience he had to have, that the intelligence collection, analysis and dissemination systems within DHS were faulty why wasn’t an overhaul being performed within three months of his taking office? Why hadn’t he briefed Ms. Napolitano on these shortcomings and gotten her buy in? Moreover, since his job at the NCTC (National Counter Terrorism Center) and its predecessor the TTIC(Terrorist Threat Integration Center) involved doing the very things he says that DHS didn’t do he cannot plead ignorance or incapacity.
Which leads me to wonder why, John Brennan failed miserably at the one thing he most certainly is qualified to do?
Might we not instead finally understand why, if such a one as John Brennan was Chief of Analysis with 25 years’ political and terrorism analysis experience behind him, the CIA was and still is so abominably inept at spotting and connecting the dots?
I don’t want to get in trouble with our lovely hostess but in my opinion the “weakest link” in our government is Barack Hussein Obama.
On January 8th, 2010 at 1:33 am, Mojamaiko said:
Good question.
Though one has to understand that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Office of Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and there’s Mr. Brennan’s post as Deputy National Security Adviser for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism. The DHS is a cabinet level post reporting to the President. The Director of National Intelligence is a Congressionally mandated (created by law) “Czar” and the Deputy National Security Adviser for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism is a sub-cabinet post under the National Security Advisor.
The DHS has under it, an Office of Intelligence and Analysis. The DNI is responsible for coordinating the Intelligence activities, including analysis of all of the military and civilian intelligence agencies (CIA, NSA, DIA, FBI) and the National Security Advisor has jurisdiction over the NSA. So in typical Washington fashion they’ve re-divided the very resources that DHS and DNI were supposed to coordinate and combine the various intelligence agencies and assets. Ultimately creating a new playground for the ancient government game of ‘turf war’. In truth, the NSA (National Security Advisor) was originally the source of coordination of intelligence and analysis using the National Security Agency as the coordination point back in the 1950s. It ended up not working as Law Enforcement intelligence primarily the FBI was left out of the NSA (ref: J. Edgar Hoover). So after 11 Sep. 2001, the Congress enacted legislation that created the DHS (2003) and it was to coordinate domestic intelligence gathering and analysis from all agencies and act as a clearinghouse for domestic security intelligence. The NDI was created on recommendation of the 9/11 Commission (2004) to coordinate all intelligence gathering and analysis by Federal agencies. The legislation crafted by Dianne Feinstein, Jay Rockefeller and Bob Graham proved too namby-pamby to really give the office any real capacity to act when the NSA, National Reconnaissance Office, and National Geo-spatial Intelligence were left under the DoD(more turf wars).
Mr. Brennan’s role in all of this is somewhat murky as he seems to be the point man in all of this yet, the roles of Ms. Napolitano at DHS and the DNI Gen. James Jones (USMC ret.) would seem to supercede his. Neither Napolitano, nor Jones has a real background in intelligence. Something I find disturbing about most of the DHS and DNI appointees to date which does not bespeak of an understanding of the importance of intelligence in any undertaking be it military, political, economic/business or social. This shows significantly in many ways from the way that Mr. Obama embarrassed the Emperor of Japan by failing to keep eye contact during his bow (a sign of subservience for those who are beneath notice) to his abysmal lack of knowledge about the politics and social/economic affairs of most countries he’s spoken of to date, to his current situation regarding the latest attack by radical muslim jihadists on this country.
We are ill served by the organizations at the cabinet and advisory levels to the Presidency, and have been for some time. This is exacerbated by Mr. Obama whose ignorance, naivete and incomprehensible lack of appreciation for the role of intelligence and its function have led us here.
MacEamonn, summed it up well when he said, “n my opinion the “weakest link” in our government is Barack Hussein Obama.”
OOPS! When I spoke of the DNI I meant Dennis C. Blair (ADM USN ret.) who is DNI and other than a short stint as Associate Director of Central Intelligence for Military Support also does not have an intelligence background. James L. Jones (Gen. USMC ret.) is the NSA under whom Mr. Brennan serves. Never post when angry.
Intelligence agencies are only are good as the culture allows
The frist rule of government service is to remain in government service
The second rule is to get pay raises yearly
The third rule is to get longevity raises
The fourth rule is to never do anything that is not in your job description
The fifth rule is that if you are not ordered to do something then it must be someone elses job
The sixth rule is that even if you are ordered to do something does not actually mean you are required to do it
The seventh rule is that if the person who ordered you to do that thing you were ordered to do actually wanted it done, they would have done it
The eighth rule is that deadlines are only suggestions
I could go on, but lets see what you can do to add to this list
RE: Airport scanners (virtual strip search), a few personal, highly opinionated observations:
1.) The executives at OSI Systems Inc., Smiths Group Plc, Safran SA and L-3 Communications Holdings Inc. are no doubt dancing on their desktops in response to this latest bombing attempt. It would be interesting to see the stock portfolios of those most enthusiastically advocating the use of these machines. That “hold” rating just became – what?
2.) Advocates (like Sen. Joe Lieberman) are suggesting that a full body scan by one of these machines will become mandatory. No choice. That includes your kids. Currently it is voluntary with refusal resulting in a metal detection wand scan and pat-down which, while invasive in itself, at least respects your right to keep your clothes on.
3.) According to reports, the machines will be operated by a “remotely located officer” (translation: a TSA hourly employee) in “closed off areas” not visible to the “general public”. Originally, it was mandated that scans would only be viewed by same sex TSA personnel, but that requirement seems to have disappeared in the latest reports. And what is a “closed off area” in the airport? Accessible by whom? Airport security, police, TSA employees, housecleaning staff, facilities, etc.
4.) Another report claims “the officer who helps the passenger through the machine does not view the image it produces”. No, but since he just texted a “heads up!” to his buddy in the scanner room, that “officer” is secure in the knowledge that a snap of the scanner screen will be MMS’ed to him shortly. Specifically — one of the points made by advocates is that the body image produced is only displayed for a few seconds and “is supposed to be automatically deleted”, “cameras and cell phones are not allowed in the viewing room”. Right. What are they going to do? Scan the “scanners”? I predict two months before images of high profile people going through these scanners start showing up on the Internet.
I’ve seen comments from advocates stating that going through one of these scanners is no worse than going into a public locker room. Let’s see:
Scenario 1 — Dad takes his two teenage daughters to grandmas house for a visit
Scenario 2 –- Dad takes his two teenage daughters to the gym for an afternoon of jogging, calisthenics and weight-lifting
How is one of these things not like the other?
And then there are the religious concerns. Consider this (from Fox News):
Isaac Yeffet, former head of Israel’s El-Al airlines, said Muslims would not stand for any widespread use of the device since it would, to some, represent a dishonor to women and their families.
“Realize that a Muslim will know that his wife was seen naked in this machine,” Yeffet said. “You know what would be the reaction? … Terrible.”
LOL, more like “sudden jihad syndrome”. Second prediction – Muslim women will be allowed to bypass these machines after CAIR goes absolutely ape-sh*t.
Joe Lieberman is a big proponent of these machines and calls privacy concerns “mild” (wonder how much stock he owns in L-3…). Guess getting the IC and TSA to actually do their jobs isn’t an option — the “underwear bomber” would have been caught long before getting on that plane if there had not been what is now widely understood as a massive breakdown of security apparatus and procedures.
IMO, if these things are allowed to go into common use, it will be a disaster for the TSA, the airlines and basic privacy rights for everyone, everywhere.
I don’t usually support the ACLU, but in this case, I think they are right on in their opposition to these devices and hope the matter gets the attention it deserves.
It really is amazing how we so desperately want some inaminate technology to do this job for us
We are so terrified of being said to have profiled a muslim that we will spend 10s of millions of dollars, maybe more, to prevent us from ever having to ask a muslim, “Do you have a bomb under your clothes?”
We are doomed as long as this mind set persists
Merry Christmas, indeed.
My wife got this from her dad for Christmas.
It goes with what I gave her for our 10th anniversary.
Did anyone else go to a scary visual place with that one?
Refusal to admit we are in a war against a religious ideology, one that Obama is very sensitive to, and history with (a real part of him). If he went full guns at it, well…never mind, but you get the idea.
very nice indeed
Well, you could be a literature buff, and then they’d get a chance to see your Longfellow.
Now take a look at what was said:
Asked “what was the most shocking, stunning thing that you found” as part of the review, Brennan mentioned the lethality of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which he described as an “extension” of al-Qaeda in Pakistan: I will remark to this” this imbecile does not understand that al-Qaeda is al-Qaeda and operates where ever it can gain a foothold – it is not an extension of anything.
“The fact that they had moved forward to try to execute this attack against the homeland I think demonstrated to us — and this is what the review sort of uncovered — that we had a strategic sense of sort of where they were going, but we didn’t know they had progressed to the point of actually launching individuals here. And we have taken that lesson, and so now we’re full on top of it,” Brennan said.
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napalitano, answering the same question, said she was particularly concerned by “the tactic of using an individual to foment an attack, as opposed to a large conspiracy or a multi-person conspiracy such as we saw in 9/11 — that is something that affects intelligence. It really emphasizes now the renewed importance on how different intelligence is integrated and analyzed, and threat streams are followed through. And again, it will impact how we continue to review the need to improve airport security around the world.”
In the real world – these dolts did not know that most of the Terrorists released in Yemen rejoined al Qaeda? They could not add 2 and 2 and see that this was/is a major threat?
Another observation – is this not why DHS was formed to begin with – to share and analyze information/intelligence?
These idiots are not aware that the Art re-habilitation in Saudi is a joke and those released walk across the border into Yemen to re-join al- Qaeda?
They have taken no lessons from what is going on in Somalia?
They are not aware that the whole middle-east is a hotbed of Islamic Radicalism?
They are not aware that al-Qaeda is a sophisticated terrorist organization and they watch our news and what is going on in this country?
Have these idiots thought for once that what is happening is they are probing our security apparatus and intelligence knowledge? Which the Lame Stream is all to happy to blare out to the world.
One more – The Billions being spent on a new DHS castle would be better spent on equipment and people to gather, share, analyze intelligence. But that’s asking way to much of this puppet show.
A couple of questions.
1. How many people will claim to be muslim to avoid the scanners? (If religious grounds are the only way out.)
2. If the scanners probably wouldn’t have caught the explosive “package”, then why the sudden push? Wouldn’t it make more sense to try to stop the kind of bombs they’re actually using?
BTW, notice that Drudge has replaced the male scanner image with a female one. Hopefully that will raise a little awareness.
JD–it’ll raise something…
Also note that the female image is of a fit, thin woman. Not your Bella Abzug type for Drudge!
Again I ask, why was this guy given a Visa in the first place? Fixing security is treating the symptom, not the disease.
I think that’s the point. When people see the doughy lump outline of the average person, they think it’s no big deal. Now that they see that people will get more of a peep show, it has them thinking that they may not want some hourly flunkie checking out their daughter and doing who knows what with the images.
Especially when it won’t do a damn thing to prevent another underwear bomb.
As long as we continue to look for potential weapons instead of potential murderers/terrorists/shady air travelers, we will continue to make one foolish move after another that will result in the death of innocent people, and political fodder for idiots.
Can these scanners detect objects inside body cavities?
How many grams of PETN could that muslim terrorist have crammed up his rectum?
Has anyone heard if these machines can detect inside the body, if not they are useless
What the security people should actually be telling people..
Flying advice for men, women and familes
Men if you see potential muslims on a flight keep an eye on them until you are completely off the plane
Women if you are seated next to a potential muslim, ask to be moved and that a man sit next to the potential muslim
Families, if you see a group of potential muslim men on your flight, get off and request a ticket change
In all instances protect yourself and take no chances, unless of course you wouldn’t mind having us lite a remembrance candle in your honor
It has certainly piqued my interest in this subject. As near as I can see, there are two important points to consider in these scans. One is firmly in the privacy area, the other is equally firm in the security area. I think the discussion will be fleshed out in the privacy area, but with other areas touched on as well, at least on the surface. The body of knowledge on this subject need to be probed; only then will we see what the curves tell us.
Gerbils.
Honestly, quit looking for banned items, because terrorists will focus on items not banned. What’s next…explosive chapstick? A ball-point pen that contains a single .22 mag shell? Chemical or biological agent in a container of an approved amount?
LOL
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Forget the scanners and imaging equipment. It is very expensive and slow–and has a lot of false positive reports. Some flag 10 percent of the luggage–and people–for explosives.
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Three years ago I attended a security seminar. An experienced dog handling lady–she was the person who “dog checked” President Bush 43′s plane and helicopter near Crawford, Texas–gave us a talk and demonstration of her drug dog.
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About 50 of us were in a conference room–the lady and the dog came in. She had hidden a very tiny amount of drugs in a small closed plastic baggie in the room before the dog or people came in. The dog sat down near her and waited during her speech.
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First she told us that anyone could leave now–and should–if they didn’t want a dog check. A few stood up and left! After her talk about how she got the Golden and Lab Retrievers at the pound and trained them, and about some of her work–she told the dog to search. The dog checked the room in about a minute. It alerted on two empty chairs–recently vacated by fellow employees. She said–no–search–and the dog moved on.
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The dog went over to a table, grabbed a drawer knob in it’s teeth, and opened the drawer. The dog rooted through the drawer and came up with the baggie–it looked empty to me.
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I asked the lady how good the dogs were on explosives–she said any dog that couldn’t get it right 95 percent of the time was rejected–and most were perfect. No false positives, no failures to find the stuff.
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So when you are standing in line at the airport TSA checkpoint–if you don’t see a dog checking out the line–it’s clown time. A good dog would have found the explosives in the BVD bomber’s shorts. And there should be good dogs and handlers checking the baggage as it is loaded on the plane.
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John Bibb
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A crotch-sniffer would work well, at the cost of a bag of Ol Roy too!
As I said the government, read that to mean who ever you want, is trying to fool us into believeing that if we pay enough for these machines they will do the work that “we” refuse to do
You see muslims on your flight, get off and request another ticket
We are doomed waiting on the “government”
They have failed
And they do not care
Happy2, if you are still reading this thread, thanks for thinking of me!! It is nice to be missed. I don’t want to bore everyone with my personal situation, but just to let you know I have been sick and am now recovering. Also have been having some computer problems. I’ve been able to post here and there, but I miss the back and forth stuff that is the most fun!! Will be back to that soon! I have been reading the threads and I just have to say…you guys are so entertaining!! Best commenters on the internet by far!! I have been copying your comments to WORD, then printing them out so I can read them in bed. Oh, my illness is pneumonia…lots of it in both lungs. And it came on suddenly. I hadn’t been sick at all. I was rushed to the hospital with chest pains ala Rush Limbaugh!
Spent four days in hospital, and I have to say this…our health care system ROCKS!!
There are already plastic gun components available. All the planners have to do is distribute the pieces amongst folks like the Flying Imams and have a get-together after the seatbelt sign goes off.
You think I’m joking? Can’t say much about it, but someone close to me works for one of the above mentioned entities and we used to joke that everytime there was a transportation terrorist attempt, the “friend” got a bigger house.
So good to hear from you happy1! Glad you are recovering. I was worrried. Please get well soon.
What do people not understand about the fact that these scanners are dangerous to your health. They are radiation. They are being administered by the most incompetent people in the world. Consider what would happen if you administered this to a pregunant woman and the effect on her fetus. Plus, IT IS AGANIST OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. We are not the enemy, yet. Our enemy is Islam, take the scrutiniy to them.
Thank you ssnark, your disertation was enjoyable as well as informative.
Thanks, Happy2!! I am going to be fine and my sweet hubby is taking good care of me. Life is good. And I’m still happy!
(Raising hand) Professor ssnark, could it be that Brennan was tasked with other PC priorities before the Pantybomber attack?
Dogs are pretty effective. If I recall correctly, when dogs were mentioned as a possible security measure several years ago they were rejected.
Why were they rejected? Because Muslims believe dogs are unclean and were offended by being sniffed by dogs.
Oddly enough, it appears that Muslim taxi drivers in Norway were refusing to pick up blind passengers with dogs for the same reason.
I used to see dogs deployed in customs areas in Miami airport, pre-9/11, and it wasn’t a big deal back then. Of course, Muslims weren’t exempt from reality back then…
On Drudge:
Of course they can. They are MILLIMETER Wave scanners (duh!).
On January 8th, 2010 at 12:57 pm, happy2behere said:
Could be, but he’s been the Administrations point man on anything that has to do with terrorism and terrorists from Gitmo to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. In fact IIRC he’s the one they trotted out to tell us how a civil trial rather than a Military Tribunal was somehow better for us.
This man knows better than what he’s saying publicly. The last news conference showed it. Here’s a man who knows how things work and how they don’t who’s beating around the bush, dissembling and otherwise playing semantic games like some attorney. All of which irk me because that’s my general reaction to having a D-8 sized bucket of horse manure dumped on me by someone especially when it isn’t an ‘accident’ as claimed later.
WarEagle82 said:
Fine. Feed ‘em to the dogs. Anybody else wanna play?
I guess things could be a lot worse.
Check out this story about the Slovakian airport police.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/06/ireland.explosives/index.html
They placed a bag of explosive powder into some unsuspecting passenger’s luggage, and forgot about it. The poor schmuck carried the explosive onto a plane and found this nasty surprise when he got home in Dublin. Then to top it off, the Irish police arrested him.
Yes. Make them hold the shoes of the passenger going through security ahead of them. Sole up.
In light of this Slovakian story, I think we are being too harsh with Obama and Napolitano. At least they are not stuffing dynamite into our bags before takeoff. Well, at least they haven’t been caught doing that yet. We should all be thankful for this.
spacey, I have a hard time giving my shoes to someone who wants me dead.
I still love Dennis Miller’s description of Carvile.
“He looks like a muppet that somebody washed on hot”.
I think I’ve seen similar-appearing aliens in a 1950s sci-fi flick or two.