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1. #1
   On January 7th, 2010 at 11:57 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

   Yeah, let’s see how they make the sausages!

2. #2
   On January 7th, 2010 at 12:00 pm, Misscheryl said:

   Keep the pressure on!

3. #3
   On January 7th, 2010 at 12:00 pm, b-cat said:

   Our government is at war against us. One never lets one’s enemy see the war plans being made.

4. #4
   On January 7th, 2010 at 12:08 pm, Flyoverman said:

   This is stunning. The tipping point with the media may have been reached. Maybe? Could it be?

   Check out Jack Rafferty’comments on CNN about Obama and Pelosi.

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pO1oJPps1I

5. #5
   On January 7th, 2010 at 12:13 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

   Democrat Rep. Joe Sestak acknowledges the Darkness

   …and the darkness will bite him wait and see.

   Good going Joe. My hat is off to you for making such a bold statement about your party.

6. #6
   On January 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm, tre said:

   Criminals don’t like cameras. Because then we will be able to record them robbing us.

7. #7
   On January 7th, 2010 at 12:16 pm, Flyoverman said:

   Democrat Rep. Joe Sestak acknowledges the Darkness

   Rat

   Ship

   SPLASH

8. #8
   On January 7th, 2010 at 12:21 pm, zyzzyg said:

   You have to say what you mean, and mean what you say.

   Make a promise and keep it. If you can’t, explain why not. Then take your lumps.

   I understand that conference committee meetings are not normally broadcast, maybe this should change. And, more importantly, once the bill leaves the conference committee to be debated on the floors of the Senate and House, don’t abuse the rules to limit debate.

9. #9
   On January 7th, 2010 at 12:21 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

   Fly,

   More like:

   Obama-bus

   Toss

   Thud

10. #10
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:25 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:08 pm, Flyoverman said:

    This is stunning. The tipping point with the media may have been reached. Maybe? Could it be?

    Check out Jack Rafferty’comments on CNN about Obama and Pelosi.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pO1oJPps1I

    Jack Cafferty has is right about “crap”….Thanks Michelle for shedding more light on the cancer that is our congress!! and to you zero liability voters…thanks for your selfishness and stupidity continuing to vote for these morons….

11. #11
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:25 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:21 pm, zyzzyg said:

    …And, more importantly, once the bill leaves the conference committee to be debated on the floors of the Senate and House, don’t abuse the rules to limit debate.

    Agreed but the debate will be pointless. There is only a simple majority needed for this crap-care to pass. The Dems will be more than cooperative now. It will make them look like they did their part before we are forced to choke on this bill.

12. #12
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:29 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    Idiot media, they could have been fighting for transparency a year ago (based on BHO’s campaign promises).
    Think of how much more they would have had to report!
    Irony:
    Now, in some back room they are thinking… duhhh, maybe transparency isn’t so bad – we might benefit from this.

13. #13
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:38 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Democrat Rep. Joe Sestak acknowledges the Darkness: “They said it would be transparent. Why isn’t it? At times, I find the caucus is a real disappointment. We aren’t transparent, not just to the public but at times to the members.”

    Democrat Rep. Joe Sestak will be taken to the Obama woodshed in short order for his public insolence. At the very least, he can forget about any bling from the White House.

14. #14
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:38 pm, bsmarj said:

    Joe still voted for the H’care bill.
    What’s so bold about him coming on and saying what he said?
    Actually, I saw a little hand wringing while the question was being asked.
    The dems are in control.
    If they wanted it to be out there for the public to see what they are doing then they should have voted different or demanded that they open the process to the people.
    Now we see all these pols backpeddling and trying to look good for their next election.
    Remember they will say anything to get re-elected.

15. #15
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:40 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Idiot media, they could have been fighting for transparency a year ago blockquote>

    Katie Couric was on Leno last night, you don’t expect her to follow the news too do you?

16. #16
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:40 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    What we’re about to see is the gears of the vetting process slowly spinning to life. A couple years late, but the media is starting to slowly wake up from their drunken stupor and realize they bedded what is a called a “Coyote Date”. Only time will tell if they’re willing to gnaw their arm off.

17. #17
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:42 pm, guitarplayer said:

    Democrat Rep. Joe Sestak acknowledges the Darkness: “They said it would be transparent. Why isn’t it? At times, I find the caucus is a real disappointment. We aren’t transparent, not just to the public but at times to the members.”

    And what are you going to do about it?

    #crickets#

    These guys will talk tough and express outrage, but in the end, they won’t do a thing and follow the party line as set by Obama/Pelosi/Reid.

18. #18
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:45 pm, TomB said:

    Oh, what a tangled web…

    You can fool all of the people some of the time…

    The web begins to unravel when all of the people are no longer fooled.

19. #19
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:47 pm, Hangfire said:

    Does this make Bahney Fwank the “Princess of Darkness?”

20. #20
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:47 pm, granite said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:38 pm, bsmarj said:

    Now we see all these pols backpeddling and trying to look good for their next election.
    Remember they will say anything to get re-elected.

    Exactly.
    That is all this is…nothing more.
    It is most certainly not courageous.

21. #21
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:50 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Fox: Cavuto Congressman Joe Knollenberg: its not your (our) money

    And that is how these slimy night-crawlers think. “Joe Knollenberg is a parasite and a bum” and sad to say a Republican. If they did have cameras in the meeting they would run the tape on Americas Most Wanted or Cops.

    Now I await an IRS audit of C-SPAN and Brian Lamb. Chicago, Chicago-it’s not my kind of town.

22. #22
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:54 pm, Uplander said:

    @zyzzyg

    I could be wrong, but I believe the uproar includes the fact that they are bypassing the Conference committee all together and meeting behind closed doors.
    Congress is not even in session.

23. #23
    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:56 pm, Uplander said:

    So, here we are, it’s almost time for the training wheels to come off and the ‘Manchild’ is panicky and desperate.

    He has accomplished nothing to brag on in his State of The Union Address.
    Beware the Tantrum of a powerful child.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C34g5mz1ZQ

    Your assignment, should you choose to accept it is to:
    Google –
    Narcissistic Personality Disorder
    and
    Cloward-Piven Strategy

24. #24
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:04 pm, Southpaw said:

    “I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.”

    Joseph Stalin Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi

25. #25
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:06 pm, Uplander said:

    @Flyoverman
    Jack Cafferty Rips Obama

    That was truly amazing, from CNN?

26. #26
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:12 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    granite said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:38 pm, bsmarj said:

    Now we see all these pols backpeddling and trying to look good for their next election.
    Remember they will say anything to get re-elected.

    Exactly.
    That is all this is…nothing more.
    It is most certainly not courageous.

    what he said…. (emphasis added)

27. #27
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:13 pm, Uplander said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:50 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Fox: Cavuto Congressman Joe Knollenberg: its not your (our) money

    I grew up in Detroit, or as I say it, ‘I spent 22 years there one night and got up in the morning and left’. Knollenberg, being Republican from Michigan literally makes me want to puke.
    Southern Michigan may be lost between this idjit and the Detroit City Govt.

28. #28
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:18 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    zyzzyg said:

    I understand that conference committee meetings are not normally broadcast, maybe this should change. And, more importantly, once the bill leaves the conference committee to be debated on the floors of the Senate and House, don’t abuse the rules to limit debate.

    There are no conference committees. It’s just Obama and a bunch of Democrats making decisions that the rest of us will have to live with.

29. #29
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:20 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:25 pm, On-my-soap-box said: #11

    Agreed but the debate will be pointless. There is only a simple majority needed for this crap-care to pass. The Dems will be more than cooperative now. It will make them look like they did their part before we are forced to choke on this bill.

    Thank you for agreeing. However, debate is not pointless, especially in the Senate.

    A single bill containing the same language will be presented before each body. The greatest opportunity to address concerns in the bill will be in the Senate. The House can limit their members to minutes for comment. Not so in the Senate. Once a Senator has the floor, that Senator has the floor as long as that Senator wants. The Senate can still make ammendments, the House, not so much.

    Debate is good. Questions are good. Getting answers is even better.

30. #30
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:23 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:04 pm, Southpaw said:
    “I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.”

    Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe!

31. #31
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:24 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:54 pm, Uplander said: #22

    I could be wrong, but I believe the uproar includes the fact that they are bypassing the Conference committee all together and meeting behind closed doors.
    Congress is not even in session.

    Yes, that is part of the problem. Typically, in conference committee, both sides of the aisle are represented. Not doing so now is an abuse of tradition and the rules.

    Congress not being in session is not important. (Sounds bad, I know.) When Congress goes back into session that will be the time to address the bill in debate, especially in the Senate.

32. #32
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:30 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:18 pm, NJ-Aviator said: #28

    There are no conference committees. It’s just Obama and a bunch of Democrats making decisions that the rest of us will have to live with.

    True. There is no conference committee with regard to the healthcare bill, and hence the term ‘ping-pong’.

    And, the Senate will have the opportunity to have their concerns addressed. Recall several Senators have said they would vote to move the bill forward but reserved their right to vote against the final bill.

    It will be the Senate that will stop the bill. The House is, well is the House.

33. #33
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:37 pm, jlhudg23 said:

    On Fox News this AM, some jerk-off Dem was saying, basically, that “you’ll never get a bill in this town if you don’t allow for some ‘private’ negotiations”.

    Screw ‘em all. Where’s the tar and feathers?

34. #34
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:37 pm, tarpon said:

    People I meet with, not many are political followers, are wondering what is going on …

    It’s like a ticking bomb, because when they find out …

35. #35
    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:54 pm, granite said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:23 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe!

    Yes!
    Rimshot, please!!

    Also and not off-topic regarding these criminal fools in D.C.:

    “Hammond Eggar”

36. #36
    On January 7th, 2010 at 2:28 pm, love2rumba said:

    You have to say what you mean, and mean what you say.

    Make a promise and keep it. If you can’t, explain why not. Then take your lumps.

    I understand that conference committee meetings are not normally broadcast, maybe this should change. And, more importantly, once the bill leaves the conference committee to be debated on the floors of the Senate and House, don’t abuse the rules to limit debate.

    The best post of the day.

37. #37
    On January 7th, 2010 at 2:43 pm, BOB said:

    The Rev. James Manning is an America hero. Watch this video before it gets scrubbed. The Pastor accuses Obama of treason and says he has proof Obama never attented Columbia University.

    It’s true as far as I know that no one has ever been located who remembers Obama, (or Barry Soetoro), being at Columbia. Fox News interviewed hundreds of people who attented at the same time Obama claims he did and no one, not even those taking the same subjects, remembered ever having seen him. Let’s see, we could look at Obama’s school records……no, that won’t work….hidden under a pile of lawyers.

    The Pastor claims Obama was in Afghanistan when he was said he was at Columbia.

    Maybe the wheels are really falling off the Obama Deception!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kWctuAY49I&feature=player_embedded

38. #38
    On January 7th, 2010 at 2:52 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    zyzzyg said:

    It will be the Senate that will stop the bill. The House is, well is the House.

    Perhaps. I’m not sure there are 10 or even 9 Dem Senators who would vote against the Bill. Assuming the two ID voted against it. The borderline Dems were already bribed so I don’t see how it will not pass. But stranger things have happened.

    Actually, I see more bribes coming down the pipe as this might be the last chance for some Senators on the bubble to secure some Pork for their campaign donors.

39. #39
    On January 7th, 2010 at 2:54 pm, BOB said:

    OK, it’s supposed to be attended, not attented…sorry.

40. #40
    On January 7th, 2010 at 2:56 pm, orlandocajun said:

    There’s a simple answer…rats do their best work in the dark.

41. #41
    On January 7th, 2010 at 3:16 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Democrat Rep. Joe Sestak acknowledges the Darkness:

    Well, he’s running against Specter in the Democrat Senate Primary and he is a champion of the “Public Option.”

    Oh ya, sure, he’s credible…..

42. #42
    On January 7th, 2010 at 3:53 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    I love that show “How It’s Made” on Discovery. I think if I watched Obamacare Legislation being made, I’d end up needing a new TV.

43. #43
    On January 7th, 2010 at 4:08 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Dexter,

    Picture dead horses being turned into soap and glue. That’s representative.

44. #44
    On January 7th, 2010 at 5:09 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Picture dead horses being turned into soap and glue.

    That I could stomache.
    Watching Nan strong-arm someone, or Harry promising wheelbarrow-fulls of taxpayer money for votes would trigger a violent episode of ballistic vomitting, not to mention the things I’d be throwing.

45. #45
    On January 7th, 2010 at 5:33 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 1:20 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Debate is good. Questions are good. Getting answers is even better.

    Again, I can agree with this statement. I still stand on: The debate over this bill is pointless. The Dems will not fight the debate and the bill will be forced upon us.

    Under socialism, the poor keep getting poorer and the rich keep getting richer (even though we are all supposed to be on equal ground). Funny how under socialism, some are always more equal than others!

    Here is something to debate: Do you think ANY politico is going to trust his life to Obama-careless? Okay, that was a rhetorical question.

46. #46
    On January 7th, 2010 at 5:46 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Watching Nan strong-arm someone, or Harry promising wheelbarrow-fulls of taxpayer money for votes would trigger a violent episode of ballistic vomitting, not to mention the things I’d be throwing.

    True Dexter.

    Kind of like “Frog in a blender” or the old SNL Bass-O-Matic 76 skit.

47. #47
    On January 7th, 2010 at 6:18 pm, Blackstone said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 12:25 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    There is only a simple majority needed for this crap-care to pass.

    Could somebody explain this rule to me? So that means anytime the Senate gets 60 votes to approve a bill, it could be amended to be turned into a completely different bill than the one that was voted on, and it would only need 51 votes to pass?

48. #48
    On January 7th, 2010 at 9:06 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On January 7th, 2010 at 2:52 pm, NJ-Aviator said: #38

    Perhaps. I’m not sure there are 10 or even 9 Dem Senators who would vote against the Bill. Assuming the two ID voted against it. The borderline Dems were already bribed so I don’t see how it will not pass. But stranger things have happened.

    Actually, I see more bribes coming down the pipe as this might be the last chance for some Senators on the bubble to secure some Pork for their campaign donors.

    Yes, it is one of the unfortunate realities of our system.