Bombshell: Brown leads Coakley in MA Senate race; Update: Globe poll shows Coakley up 15
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I noted on Friday that libs were getting “anxious” about the MA Senate race.
The latest numbers from Public Policy Polling should have them hitting the panic button even faster:
The Massachusetts Senate race is now a toss up.
Buoyed by a huge advantage with independents and relative disinterest from Democratic voters in the state, Republican Scott Brown leads Martha Coakley 48-47.
Here are the major factors leading to this surprising state of affairs:
-As was the case in the Gubernatorial elections in New Jersey and Virginia last year, it looks like the electorate in Massachusetts will be considerably more conservative than the one that showed up in 2008. Obama took the state by 26 points then, but those planning to vote next week only report having voted for him by 16.
-Republicans are considerably more enthusiastic about turning out to vote than Democrats are. 66% of GOP voters say they are ‘very excited’ about casting their votes, while only 48% of Democrats express that sentiment- and that’s among the Democrats who are planning to vote in contrast to the many who are apparently not planning to do so at this point.
-Brown has eye popping numbers with independents, sporting a 70/16 favorability rating with them and holding a 63-31 lead in the horse race with Coakley. Health care may be hurting Democratic fortunes with that group, as only 27% of independents express support for Obama’s plan with 59% opposed.
Hey, remember when Biden campaigned for losing Democrat gubernatorial candidate Jon Corzine in New Jersey and when Obama campaigned for losing Democrat gubernatorial candidate Creigh Deeds in Virginia one week before Election Day?
Please, Mr. Obama, go up to Massachusetts and campaign for your SEIU-backed pal Martha Coakley. Work your reverse-Midas magic again!
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Culture of Corruption, Bay State-style: The Dems want to keep Ted Kennedy’s seat by any means necessary….
Friday, a spokesman for Secretary of the Commonwealth William Galvin, who is overseeing the election but did not respond to a call seeking comment, said certification of the Jan. 19 election by the Governor’s Council would take a while.
“Because it’s a federal election,” spokesman Brian McNiff said. “We’d have to wait 10 days for absentee and military ballots to come in.”
Another source told the Herald that Galvin’s office has said the election won’t be certified until Feb. 20 – well after the president’s address.
Since the U.S. Senate doesn’t meet again in formal session until Jan. 20, Bay State voters will have made their decision before a vote on health-care reform could be held. But Kirk and Galvin’s office said Friday a victorious Brown would be left in limbo.
In contrast, Rep. Niki Tsongas (D-Lowell) was sworn in at the U.S. House of Representatives on Oct. 18, 2007, just two days after winning a special election to replace Martin Meehan. In that case, Tsongas made it to Capitol Hill in time to override a presidential veto of the expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program.
Friday, Brown, who has been closing the gap with Coakley in polls and fund raising, blasted the political double standard.
“This is a stunning admission by Paul Kirk and the Beacon Hill political machine,” said Brown in a statement. “Paul Kirk appears to be suggesting that he, Deval Patrick, and (Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid intend to stall the election certification until the health care bill is rammed through Congress, even if that means defying the will of the people of Massachusetts. As we’ve already seen from the backroom deals and kickbacks cut by the Democrats in Washington, they intend to do anything and everything to pass their controversial health care plan. But threatening to ignore the results of a free election and steal this Senate vote from the people of Massachusetts takes their schemes to a whole new level. Martha Coakley should immediately disavow this threat from one of her campaign’s leading supporters.”
Fight Demcare corruption/SEIU/Massachusetts’ political machine: Support Scott Brown for Senate here.
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William Jacobson at Legal Insurrection blogs from Brown HQ:
My expectations were fairly low. I figured I’d stay an hour or so, talk to some people, get a better “on the ground” sense of things, send out some tweets and do a post.
I arrived at around 11 a.m. The best description of the experience was that it was like one of those movies or commercials where everything is quiet until the actor opens a door, and then there is a blast of noise and light.
From the moment I arrived until I left about 5 hours later, the atmosphere was electric. I had not expected the frenzy of phones ringing, people walking in the door to write checks, dozens of people making calls to voters, and generally ebullient mood.
Those of you who follow this blog know that I am a big supporter of Scott Brown. So I claim no neutrality. And you can believe me or not when I tell you that there is an air of excitement and movement which is beyond belief.
They are out of lawn signs and bumper stickers. Completely. Nothing left, but people kept calling all day wanting to find out where they could get them. I was told it has been this way for days.
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The Boston Globe shows Coakley up 15 points.
Charlie Foxtrot notes:
Why the difference? Well the Globe poll is a poll of 554 likely-voters, but was conducted from 2-6 January. The PPP poll was made up of 774 likely-voters, and conducted from 7-9 January. Perhaps the PPP poll is more updated due to the very recent phone-bank ops conducted by the Brown campaign.
What is interesting is the political make-up of the Globe Poll. PPP breaks out its respondents as 44% Dem, 39% IND, and 17% GOP. The Globe is 55% Dem, 15% IND, and 28% GOP.
So the Globe immediately has a heavier disposition towards the Dems. Now perhaps their weighting is better than that of PPP, only time will tell.
JWF adds:
OK, so this is a Boston Globe poll and who’s to say they’re more trustworthy than PPP? Well, PPP was way off on the NY-23 race most recently, so consider their recent track record.
I suspect the reality lies somewhere in between, with Coakley probably up by single digits and Brown gaining. Is there enough time for him to make up a single-digit gap? Perhaps. But 15 points? Highly doubtful when you consider this is the bluest of blue states and Democrats will probably be spooked enough to show up come election day. A scare for Democrats, no doubt, and an ominous sign for things nationally come November.
Karl in the Green Room takes a closer look at “What’s Up with the Mass. Polls.” An excerpt:
One point of agreement between the two polls is the role of relative intensity. PPP reports that “66% of GOP voters say they are ‘very excited’ about casting their votes, while only 48% of Democrats express that sentiment.” The Globe reports that “Brown matches Coakley – both were at 47 percent – among the roughly 1 in 4 respondents who said they were ‘extremely interested’’ in the race.” Some might be tempted to frame these numbers as an “enthusiasm gap,” though it is probably more accurate to note that the Right tends to vote more regularly than the Left, and that the key for Coakley will be turning out enough of the state’s much larger pool of Democrats.
Gird your loins, in other words, for more SEIU shenanigans.
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Oh my, this is exciting!
2010 is going to be a roller coaster ride!
So maybe there is hope for MA after all.
Goes to show that no one is immune from the Tea Party fever. Voters from across the political spectrum are fed up and sense an opportunity to finally shake up the establishment for real. Now I have to take off and return to my hate-filled racist life.
It’s a bombshell, but I won’t believe it until Dingy Harry seats Brown (which I predict will not happen this year – there’s more than just PlaceboCare to ram through).
Participate in the Brown Internet Money Bomb on Monday, 1/11. Donate directly to his campaign on that day, bypassing the totally ineffective RNC and NRSC.
Scott Brown: A Stimulus Package You Can believe In.
Go Scott Go!
John Adams would be proud!
Marylanders – January 13, 2010 – Lawyer’s Mall 7pm:
So we can tell Massachusetts South the same thing the voters up north are saying.
as their “der leader” said to a room full of elitists last year…”you ain’t seen nothing yet”…the dems know they are cooked, done, fini”…they will do everything and anything to get any of these unconstitutional bills made law.
Congrats to Mr. Brown whether he wins or not, he has shown the depth of political trouble the left is in.
GOOD LUCK SCOTT BROWN!
Now if we could only get a Republican as good looking as Scott Brown to run against Barney Frank…
Michelle,
Obama campaigned here in NJ four times. He’s a disaster. Ha!
Scott Brown is a great republican and we need him in the senate!
Let’s donate and help him get elected. Call relatives or friends in Massachusetts and persuade them to get to the voting booth and vote for Scott Brown.
Scott Brown is hardly conservative, but for Massachusetts is a huge improvement.
Once he is in office, though, we will need to keep an eye on him.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
While a HUGE improvement for Massachusetts, Scott Brown is NOT a Tea Party-appropriate candidate.
He’s all for big government, as long as he and his are in control.
Don’t be fooled by candidates’ claims of advocating “smaller government”. Making something smaller that’s already out of control huge is not an achievement in and of itself.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
This is great news, but we can’t rest on our laurels.
Word is that the Boston Globe will come out with another poll shortly showing Coakley ahead by 18.
The Dems are desperate, and Bill Clinton is coming to campaign for Coakley on Jan 15.
Irony here is that Coakley is trying to use her (shabby) record as a fighter against sex offenders to help her campaign.
[Put the off-color joke of your choice here]
Remember, http://www.brownforussenate.com/
We have to match the SEIU and ACORN money coming into the state.
RWR: Brown is solid. Never voted for a tax increase in the State Senate.
Wm. Jacobson from Legal Insurrection visited a different office (could tell by his photos), but he pretty well described what went on at the Littleton office today.
Vote, Baby, Vote!
People mobilizing to help a sincere candidate, that IS what it’s all about.
Good news, but remember one thing with these socialist/marxist states, it’s not who votes, it’s who counts the votes.
None the less, I’m going to donate again to Brown’s campaign, tomorrow morning.
Brown had better win by a crushing landslide if he hopes to win the office. Close victories rarely go to the Republican.
Sounds perfect,
a Tea Party success in Boston.
Michelle, this news should make you feel better! Hope you get well soon.
I am thrilled to see this about Brown, but I want to say “shhhh” until the last minute to not awaken the MA Dems.
Fantastic news. Good luck Mr. Brown! Will donate.
Democrats are constantly demonstrating that they believe the ends justify any and all means. When Romney was Governor of Massachusetts, Kennedy got the law changed to prevent him from appointing someone to a vacant seat. Then, when Kennedy’s own seat was about to become vacant, he got the law changed back to allow a democratic governor to appoint his replacement until a special election could be held.
Kennedy never said he was flip flopping on the issue because he had made a mistake. He didn’t even try to explain the contradiction. It was simply a political move to maintain a filibuster proof Senate. And now Democrats plan to delay seating the lawful winner of the special election, but only if it’s a Republican. This is even worse than “politics as usual” because they are pulling stunts that go beyond anything that has been done before.
Democrats have had no problem flip-flopping on their promises to be bipartisan, ethical, and transparent; to end earmarks and to end politics as usual. But there are two policies they never flip flop on: Bigger government and the higher taxes needed to support it. That’s why they are so inept at creating private sector jobs and turning the economy around.
We only need one slogun to win in 2010: “Got Work?”
It fits very nicely on a button.
Here’s a very interesting aspect from the polls showing Brown leading Coakley (from PPP):
The Republicans have little to celebrate here. We are witnessing the Tea Party anti-incumbent effect yet again. America is so ready for a new party.
Brown is not the future of the GOP but his winning would be a huge kick in the groin to the liberal agenda. And we get to do it in a way that makes the RNC and the GOP grumble again.
It’s great being us.
The democrats will refuse to seat him (until february 20th at the earliest) no matter what happens. Unless the Non-left has a plan to besiege the capitol and close it down, his victory, nice moment that it would be, will be meaningless. Sorry, but the dems are a popular front and popular fronts play for keeps. I strongly suspect right now they are thinking of ways to stop the seating of the 2010 congress which will likely, though not certainly, be less to the leadership’s liking.
So what are we, that means you and me, going to do? The question is not rhetorical.
Wimpy libs will stay warm at home when they read that Coakley has such a comfortable lead – and they’re the only ones who still read it.
I’m forcasting severe wind chill and maybe occasional blizzard conditions on Monday 18th going into Tuesday 19th so…
“Brave the cold and freeze out liberals – vote for Scott Brown”
That is the duty of every citizen is to keep the elected official in check. That is why we’re in the current mess because we sent them to DC w/o checking on them. they’re like children we have to always make sure they’re following the rules. We send them to DC we need to support and watch them. There is nothing worse than a politician saying I AM going to do this when you elect me. It should be WE wil do this when you elect me.
Unbelievable! Look out Progressives, DEMS and RINOS…We pay the bill and you’re fired…. one seat at a time.
We have 10 days before the election to plan for this. We need to protest even if Brown doesn’t win. We know the Dems will cheat. We also know that the Dems figure we will whine and complain about it and hell maybe even file a court case or two. What they will not be expecting is for conservatives to hit the streets in protest.
We need to get in their faces for once. We need to make them afraid of us to the point where they wet thier pants in fear!
Go ahead,Mr. obama….make my day!
Indeed,RWR…This kind of flip-flopping by the electorate over the past 5 years indicates that neither party has less and less sufficient pull to make voters choose them outright;people are voting more for individual candidates then they for a party, IMO.
I do not think the Tea Party movement will die if repubs do re-take the legislative branch in 2010/2012. If anything, Steele/RNC stupidity this past year (and in years past) will ensure that.
I’ve thought the same a few months back myself, actually wonder if there will be an election in 2010…could there possibly be a reason to have Marshall Law invoked? Don’t blow it off, I put nothing passed these Marxists. They will stop at nothing to keep control…rules, laws, bills and statutes have no bearing with the left.
Since this is a fight to save our country, we on the right should use every tool available to regain control of our country. After GITMO is closed there will be plenty of space waiting for the traitors of the people…that applies to RINO’s as well.
The menu and attire will have to be changed some, more along the lines of Maricopa County jail cuisine and dress.
That should read “…either party…” not “…neither party…” in post #30
I hate to be an ass, but it is “Martial Law” I believe you are referring to, not “Marshall Law”…
Could I be wrong?
d’oh…damn drugs…ty l2r
love2rumba, no you weren’t wrong, I was. 1st time for everything…lol.
If Brown wins, he ought to go to the Senate and stand at the door and ask to be admitted. Make his presence felt. Focus the media on his being denied his seat by a corrupt Democratic Party and president.
If we only had real leadership at the RNC we could make this the turning point.
I’ve been waiting for Bambi’s poll numbers to go into the low 40′s but the Koolaid drinkers are still guzzling. This could be the beginning, though!
Shot heard around the world, baby!
Whoooooohoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Brown wins is there not a way to force the Dems to seat him without the state approval?
I seem to remember Pelosi seating the winner of NY23 so they could vote prior to NY certifiying the election.
On the House side, it is nigh impossible for the Democrats to refuse seating for strictly partisan purposes on 1/4/2011 – the entirety of the House is reconstituted every two years.
On the Senate side, it’s another story – there always is a quorum (i.e. at least 51) Senators around to judge the returns of an election. Fortunately, there are only 44 Democrats in Classes I and II, including those up for election sometime this year (Kennedy’s old seat, Biden’s old seat, and Clinton’s old seat). If there were another 7 ‘Rats, I wouldn’t doubt that they would refuse to seat a non-’Rat.
Wasn’t that because Hoffman threw in the towel way too early?
Even if the Supreme Court were of a mind to violate the Constitution (it gives the Senate sole power to judge the returns and qualifications of its members), it would not without state certification.
And yes, you are correct that SanFranNan repeated history by prematurely seating a fellow ‘Rat for partisan purposes.
Do not sweat out this guy winning and yet not getting to vote on whatever healthcare bill there is.
Many senators, including democrats, will not allow a final vote on this bill by an unelected senator while an elected replacement is waiting.
How much money is in your wallet? I’ll put it up against the money in my wallet.
Doesn’t make him a Constitutionalist (Tea-Partier).
On his own page, he advocates (1)government healthcare (just not what the Donks are doing), (2) illegal energy policy, (3) illegal government involvement in education, (4) legalized abortion, and only references the Constitution with regard to the Second Amendment, and then not even taking a very strong stance.
Like I said, he’s a huge improvement for Massachusetts, but even his own advertising reveals his lack of appropriateness as a “Tea Party” candidate.
Vote for him by all means. Massachusetts is unlikely to produce a real conservative any day soon. Brown is likely the best that state is going to do for quite some time.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Brown may not be the answers to all our dreams, but a step in the right direction. He could be the start in the return to sanity in my ancestral commonwealth.
It will also be interesting to see how the professional democrats will try to keep him from being seated in time for THE vote.
If Brown wins, it could very well be Mary jo Kopechne’s Revenge, would it not?
It makes me wonder, though, if Brown is all the above why is it the NRSC doesn’t hand him more money ($50,000 for Brown vs. $1,000,000 for DeDe Scozzafava)? This is a mystery.
On January 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pm, CleanGuy said:
Now if we could only get a Republican as good looking as Scott Brown to run against Barney Frank…
Unfortunately, they love him in Newton Mass. I cannot understand – maybe they are a lot of his “type” – ya know idjits!!
gooooo SCOTT
William is on the ground and is posting
updates:
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/01/brown-hq-report-1.html
He’s a RINO, a Fraud!
http://www.rightcondition.com/2010/01/voting-for-scott-brown-and-big.html
HE’s A TAX AND SPENDER, DON’T BE FOOLED!
SCOTT BROWN SUCKS FOLKS!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/46967.html
Were Screwed 2008 is now were screwed 2010.
Rightwing,
I am not aware that all teaparty folks are Constitutionalists as you stated.
Your passion is wonderful but your
projection is overruled
NOBODY speaks for all and the attempt
by some ( not you am generalizing ) to
pidge hole or profit from the movement
is foolish.
Any and all teaparty gatherings and conventions damn well better be free
and no speakers paid for, attendees will naturally chip in for cost of venue but pro pundits can pay their own way like everyone else.
my two cents.
I guess this is why I no longer consider my self a Republican. I’m still registered as a Republican, but I will no longer vote for RINO’s. Sorry. The “Lesser of two evils” thing doesn’t work for me. If they are both evil, why would I want to vote for either? This guy is BAD. As bad as Ted Kennedy? Probably not, but as Huey Lewis said, “SOMETIMES BAD IS BAD”
Too bad Michelle is a Jersey person, rather than a Constitution lover.
It’s funny, I had just read about him before seeing what Michelle had.
No worries. The RNC will swoop on and give Coakley a million bucks at the last minute to keep another conservative out of office.
I live in suburban MA and can attest that Brown is the real thing. He is not as conservative yet as a Coburn or DeMint but given time, he may well turn out be. In any case, he is light years than better than any Dem in this state.
Go support him on his website.
Globe is saying he is 15 points behind, rigged poll for sure.
Michelle writes:The Dems want to keep Ted Kennedy’s seat by any means necessary…
Me: Ya, but you don’t care what RINO wins, as long as he has an “R” on his Jersey.
What are You getting? More of the same, that’s what!
As I said to the poll-taker on Friday, when Scott Brown wins, I promise to dance a jig in the middle of Government Center – downtown Boston!
MDT:
I live in suburban MA and can attest that Brown is the real thing. He is not as conservative yet as a Coburn or DeMint but given time, he may well turn out be.
Me: Can You Name ONE RINO that went to the senate and became CONSERVATVE over time?
Richard Burr, John McCain, Lindsey Grahm, Susan Collins, etc. NONE of them, and many more, became Conservative the longer they were there, THEY ALL GOT WORSE!
scituate_tgr said:
As I said to the poll-taker on Friday, when Scott Brown wins, I promise to dance a jig in the middle of Government Center – downtown Boston!
Crazy. Jersey worshiping got us where we are today…We never learn….
Time to move on.
totally, for a guy famous for his “I won” comment, he sure is losing a lot.
I don’t know about Brown’s record or positions. But I did see the clip of him on Hannity and he seemed pretty impressive to me. He wouldn’t take the bait that Hannity was throwing out and maintained focus on message.
It was nice to finally see a R politician STAY ON MESSAGE even when somebody like Hannity tries to get you off message (like for instance “grade Obama”).
He says he won’t vote for the current health care. Whether he gets seated or not doesn’t matter because they still need 60 votes. Without the D from Mass, they only have 59. He doesn’t have to be #41, he just has to not be #60.
After all is said and done, finally some honesty from the debate from the AP that the Senate Health Care bill will increase health costs. . . although currently they quantify the increase as “slightly” (however you define that term).
Senate health care bill will increase health costs (from the AP).
I hope you are feeling better Michelle.
For those bursting with excitement over Mr. Brown, how is he going to help with this mess??????
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Bush’s prescription Drug plan is now an 18 TRILLION Dollar Liability, and now a Bigger liability than Social Security!
Do we need or want more people like Bush?
He said he’d bring Romney Care to D.C. Have you seen that mess?
When did he say that? The comment I heard from him on the Hannity interview he said, “why would I support health reform from DC? Mass already has 98% coverage already and they don’t need federal health care legislation.”
Again, it is nice to see a politician focus on the issues as they pertain to their constituents. Mass has zero to gain from Obamacare. . . even though they’ll still have to pay taxes. Mass has some of the highest health care costs in the country thanks to Romneycare.
Let me know where you saw that he said he’d bring Romneycare to DC. I don’t even think Romney is saying that, but he’s supposed to be a GOP presidential front runner (gag).
A state Senator serving during Romney’s administration supporting and voting for billions in additional spending, millions of dollars in fee hikes and the utterly broken MassCare system known as RomneyCare.
A man who voted for a property tax hike in his town of Wrentham, purposely overriding proposition 2 ½ designed to keep property taxes limited.
A man who went on air to publicly speak out against ending the state income tax on the 2008 ballot and returning 12 billion dollars back into the pockets of Massachusetts citizens. Claiming that depriving 12 billion from the State coffers is reckless, despite knowing full well that the state spent almost 49 billion in 2008!
A man who proudly speaks of his involvement in RomneyCare, a plan widely endorsed by both Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton champions of universal single payer health systems. Yet virtually everyone from CATO to WSJ confirmed RomneyCare’s dismal failure.
In fact, Scott Brown in a debate just yesterday announced that he will go to Washington and bring RomneyCare with him.
“I helped write it….I would be happy to go down there and tell them how we did it”
RomneyCare forces individual mandates upon citizens of Massachusetts resulting in steep penalties for those refusing to pay.
RomneyCare has skyrocketed insurance premium costs doubling the national average while extending wait time for doctors by weeks and sometimes months!
This is what Scott Brown is proud of and this is what he is planning to bring to Washington DC. Ted Kennedy’s favorite claim was that health care coverage is a right, not a privilege. So does Scott Brown:
“I do believe everyone is entitled to health care coverage”
To make such an assertion in a country where no one is denied treatment is truly disturbing. A right to health insurance is as much of an abomination as an individual mandate, a direct and immediate move to collectivism. Patriots and activists are you listening?
Who is Scott Brown? A big government Republican and a sellout posing as a conservative while riding on a wave of populism spurred on by the Tea Party movement.
http://www.rightcondition.com/2010/01/voting-for-scott-brown-and-big.html
In fact, Scott Brown in a debate just yesterday announced that he will go to Washington and bring RomneyCare with him.
“I helped write it….I would be happy to go down there and tell them how we did it”
RomneyCare forces individual mandates upon citizens of Massachusetts resulting in steep penalties for those refusing to pay.
RomneyCare has skyrocketed insurance premium costs doubling the national average while extending wait time for doctors by weeks and sometimes months!
ThackerAgency said:
I don’t know about Brown’s record or positions.
http://www.rightcondition.com/2010/01/voting-for-scott-brown-and-big.html
Hannity, enough said…
Jersey worshiping?
We never learn?
You can shout RINO from the roof top, but compared to rubber-stamp Martha, and considering what’s at stake here, we can deal with Scott Brown in short order should he prove to not represent his constituents – especially this constituent!
There is a political awakening taking place and I’m in the fortunate position to be a part of it by being fully engaged and in tune to the big picture. RINO or not, lesser of two evils or not – My vote sends a clear and focused message to Duh One – it’s all I have.
You know steve, he may be worse than Hitler. . . I don’t know. I said I didn’t know. And frankly, I don’t really care. He’s not my senator. I can’t support him or vote against him.
I said I don’t know about his record or his positions. . . but they are likely similar to Romney’s. I wouldn’t vote for Romney either, but a lot of R’s seemed to like him. . . . and they like him in Mass.
The only people important in this debate are the people of Mass. I’m not full throated endorsing this guy. I’m saying he looks pretty impressive from a messaging standpoint (something Michael Steele (aka the DA ‘dumb a**’) could learn.
He said he’d ‘tell them how he did it’. Well I’m an insurance agent and I help people with their health care all the time. Sometimes they aren’t happy with the outcome, but I’d be glad to tell the people in DC where the problems are and what can be fixed and how.
Saying “I’ll show them how I did it” isn’t the same as saying “I’m going to enforce it nationally”.
He might be worse than Hitler. But he’s not a Union endorsed rubber stamp for the D party like the other candidate is. He said he wouldn’t be the 60th vote on Obamacare. That’s what we are up against right now.
He’ll probably vote for amnesty (like Graham, McCain – though if it happens this year Mac will vote against for his election and it won’t affect whether or not it passes). He’ll probably vote for global warming crap (though he likely agrees with Kennedy that they shouldn’t have wind farms in Mass off the coast).
As I said, I don’t know this guy, but he’s not my representative. If I lived in Mass and I heard him speak about Mass and not the rest of the nation (ie on message), I’d probably vote for him.
I’ll take Brown over CoakleyKennedy any day. Hes got two years to show his stuff as a Senator and frankly anything that puts the Dems panties in a knot at this point will be worth the money.
Thacker Agency, I agree with your last post. I don’t live there either, thank God!
Just saw an independent candidate that might be better for Mass.
http://www.rightcondition.com/2009/12/interview-with-joe-kennedy-independent.html
It’s very hard to know who and what your voting for, especially in a Rust Belt State. They are all probably horrible up there!
I came from Central N.Y. I never had any representation!
I do know, in the Rust Belt, it seems we never have good Governance.
Laundry Time, take care! Bye for today.
Under Steele, there is NO platform for moving the party forward – NONE. Steele seems to be content on bashing former GOP POTUS’s while providing zero solutions. If you visit their official site, you leave with the conclusion that they are interested in one thing; raising money. Zero leadership from them.
On a positive note:
100% of dead voters will vote for the Democrat. They are, after all, the party of death.
The tagteaming by a few posters is very amusing that Brown is evil RINO.
is this a sockpuppet thang? or are you just blowmates?
Yep, it’s martial law when the military is in control. Marshall Law might be when Marshal Matt Dillon takes over. Anyway, I doubt that O will impose martial law. He might be afraid that once the military had operational control of the country they might decide to depose HIM. This doesn’t mean we’ll have free and fair elections in 2010 and 2012. The bad guys will pull out all the stops to attempt to thwart the will of the people. I expect to see every trick in the book used like never before. These people will not give up power willingly.
There is a political awakening taking place and I’m in the fortunate position to be a part of it by being fully engaged and in tune to the big picture. RINO or not, lesser of two evils or not – My vote sends a clear and focused message to Duh One – it’s all I have.
Sir, what awakening is there if you vote for equally bad people? If this guy Raises Taxes, Fees, is for Socialized Medicine, please, what have You or the U.S. Senate Gained?
Not to worry…Democrats will “Franken” the election.
I don’t get it. Brown in his first year is simple voting with all the GOP senators which ALL went against ReidCare. All we NEED is his vote which he has promised. It does not matter what he said about RomneyCare, it is water under the bridge.
This is a GREAT article about what will really happen with HCR –
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703298004574459101022338232.html#articleTabs%3Darticle
Jang,
snicker
MDT,
there is nothing to get beyond what you said, do not doubt yourself.
What else do MA voters have to choose from? It’s a deep blue state, run by liberals forever, and the majority of the people are generationally used to liberal policies. They wouldn’t know freedom and personal responsibility if it hit them upside their wooden heads.
I wonder if people pretending to be conservatives and trying to trick us into helping liberal dems are actually being paid with stimulus money.
Look at Iraq. We liberate them from a radical despot dictator, give them freedom to choose their future, and they vote for a sharia government. It’s all the people know.
Same with a blue state…give them the same opportunity, and they migrate towards something that will not threaten their concept of freedom and the status quo. Generationally dependant upon liberal government policies.
Exactly-Marshall Dillon Law available at fine Western Saloons everywhere. Get Mr. Brown a White Hat and change his evil RINO ways for the next two years. Two years for any Republican has to be the max in Mass.
Massachusetts is just one of those places from which you can not expect much in the way of good. Embarrassing the Kennedy Legacy just might be all we can hope for.
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In Mass. this election would be more of an earthquake than Obambi losing in 2012. Leadership in congress has become much more important now that the liberal democrats pulled it out from under Republicans. Hope the Republican leadership will have learned the lesson.
BTW: “martial” law
1.noun: the law temporarily imposed upon an area by state or national military forces when civil authority has broken down or during wartime military operations.
2. the law imposed upon a defeated country or occupied territory by the military forces of the occupying power.
Hope will come when this term is no longer an oxymoron.
stevevvs. if the choice is between a 60th d vote in the senate for the next year and a r vote which may be wobbly in the bluest state in the nation, that is no choice at all. do you want to get the large end of the baseball bat every day for the next year, or the small end. TAKE YOUR PICK. if you want to have senator demint be the next senator of taxachusetts, you better jettison several of your colleges and universities. they will always vote lock step for the communist homosexual.
The Republican leadership IS the problem and must be purged. It’s not a matter of them learning anything. They are at war with conservatives and that is not going to change. With this leadership, any gains by Republicans, particularly in the Senate, only mean that we return to the “Gangs of McCain” dynamic.
No incumbents in 2010.
The Globe you say? They first select a spread then conjure up the mathematics to support their outcome.
I wouldn’t hold out too much hope for Brown. I hear that Coakley’s already polling over 80% in the early ballot stuffing in the phantom precincts. By election time the Dems will have the complete confidence of over 200% of the voting populace of Massachusetts.
Some inside MA analysis- this will be an inside-128 (Boston, Cambridge, etc solidly Dem) versus outside-495 (Far outer suburbs & Western MA 60-70% GOP) election.
With the belt between 128 & 495 (Near Boston suburbs) being the decider.
*I have sent money to conservative candidates across the nation as a way of turning the tide against this socialist onslaught; Although Brown doesn’t qualify as a conservative, I will send him some coin; Pragmatic messaging is just as important, and doing whatever possible to thwart a Kennedy rubber stamp continuing in the Senate fits the bill; No Senator has done more damage to this country in the last 45 years than Teddy Kennedy, so let’s start here in stopping the “Death to America” party, the Democratic Party!
The amazing thing is the media silence on this race. I just watched Chuck Todd go over all the Senate races that were close for next year. He specifically mentioned all the ‘appointed senate seats are up for election’.
He went over every one and didn’t mention this race of an ‘appointed senate seat’ of Kennedy.
Todd however did mention the evil Tea Partiers (thankfully he identified them appropriately rather than disparagingly). He mentioned them in the context of the FLORIDA SENATE PRIMARY. He said they are splitting the R’s and they are terrible terrible terrible.
They might have mentioned it before, but he sure hit everywhere around it and ended with “but there are 5 R retirements in the Senate too”.
Then I saw Scheiffer on CBS talk about the Reid racist crap. He likened it to Trent Lott by quoting Lott this way. . .
“We would have been better off if the segregationist Thurmond was elected”.
Segregation once again thrown in by the media to justify their vilification of Lott. Lott said, “if you had been elected, we would not have all these problems that we are having”.
People are never defined by one thing unless other people are doing the defining. It was a pretty vanilla statement that you would expect at a politicians party. Lott didn’t even mention race or anything racist. Lott’s case was the INFERENCE of racism that caused the outrage.
Nonetheless, it’s wonderful when you see the media show their agenda with a single word.
I’m watching Michael Steele on Fox News Sunday and he (gasp!) takes personal credit for among other things, Brown’s surge in MA. Unbelievable. Get rid of this boob.
No, Brown may not be a conservative, but there is one last thing to consider in all of this.
If Brown is elected, the establishment Republicans will not have done it. The establishment politicians in Massachusetts certainly will not have done it. It will have happened because a lot of people sick of the status quo in the grassroots did it. Grassroots who are not RINO-friendly.
If he wants to retain his job, he better remember that. Whether he likes it or not, his base is Tea Party/conservative netroots. It will be up to us to remind him of how quickly his fortunes could change (a la Crist in Florida) if he should start to slip.
Pasadena Phil #93:
You think that’s bad? I’m guessing McCain will come out of the woodwork and give credit to his endorsement of Brown as the thing that helped him win if he does.
It’s the establishment Republicans trying hard not to spin that they’re not being bypassed and shown up by us Conservative rubes. They will be desperate not to be seen as irrelevant to all of this.
It is imperative for the GOP to replace it’s leadership right now. If they wait until the elections are in full swing, it will be very disruptive all around for them but might help us Tea Party people enormously.
This is going to get real ugly later this year and I expect lots of the “we’re screwed” nose-holding Republican crowd that likes to beat up on us conservatives on this and other conservative sites will be all over us as their Titanic lists for the final time before sinking.
I just donated to Brown’s campaign online. If you have a spare few bucks, please consider doing so as well. This is the First time I have donated to candidates. I have NEVER donated to the GOP/RNC and never will. $$$ to individual Conservative candidates only! In liberal/RINO Minnesota I’ve held my nose every time I visited the voting booth. Times have changed. I am putting every spare dollar to work.
Sarah Palin (SarahPac)
Doug Hoffman
Marco Rubio
Michele Bachmann
Scott Brown
Get your list rolling!
Agree AmericaFirst. These candidates may no be perfect, but they are who we have to defeat socialism and ObamaCare. I also donated to Scott Brown’s campaign in MA.
I plan to fight hard for Rubio here in Florida!
I hate to tell you that you still haven’t made your first contribution to a conservative candidate. This special election is not about Brown but about kicking the Dems in the groin by setting up a scenario whereby Ted Kennedy’s lifelong dream of nationalized healthcare loses due to a Republican vote cast by his own replacement.
I expect Brown to be a Collins/Snowe Republican and that he will have a hard time retaining his seat later (if he wins in the first place).
Thank you Lindsay, AmericaFirst from MA!!!
This election may be for the voters of MA to decide but it is a national referendum on the Dem agenda of 2009-10. The excitement here is nothing like I have ever seen for any election. Scott’s running some great TV/Radio ads and your donations are making a big difference.
You do know she took $253,000 from government farm subsidies, right our of your pocket, right?
None of the people on your list made government or budgets smaller. Am I the only one who doesn’t see that?