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“light skinned” and “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.” Dingy Harry?
Ha Ha
Some of his best friends are colored folks. Now back to the kitchen and fetch a gin and tonic-boy
“the governments conclusion that government should decide when our elders must accept their notion of, end of life.”
While the government is not of course the solution there is a very large and costly problem in this country of unnecessary medical procedures and I’ll say it wasted money in terms of health care dollars on people who receive NO benefit from the expense of those dollars.
If folks want to spend their own money receiving futile medical care that is their business and I say spend all your money you want.
IF we are talking take MY tax dollars and spending them, well then I have a legitimate expectation to have a dialog about how that money, my money, is being spent.
Harry: And you should see him dance, regular Sammy Davis Jr., he is!
Boston and Massachusetts needs a history lesson–didn’t they help kick out King George?
Dancing M-16s at 5PM.
Re: Reid
WTF?
Time and again our black neighbors are shown where the real racists are
The democrat party is the home of racism in america
If not for TV/Hollywood and democrats our children would never hear offensive language about blacks
Issues are what matter to conservatives not skin color. The democrat party is all about identity politics
Where is Jackson, Sharpton, Powell?
They are STILL trying to the killer for OJ
“I was a proud and enthusiastic supporter of Barack Obama during the campaign and have worked as hard as I can to advance President Obama’s legislative agenda.”
That’s a flat out lie. All Harry Reid has ever done and is ever going to do are things that he thinks will advance HIS interest.
I hope no one thinks the media is going to suddenly start taking the left at the left’s word and holding them accountable for the meaning of those words. If anyone does I have a bridge I’d like to sell them…..
The timing of this Reid release is very interesting though
Who had the info and why did they wait till now to release
Who politically gains the most
Pelosi in the negoitations over health care
Obama in some power play to get Reid to go along with more socialism / government takeover
In politics there are no coindences
This was released now and pumped for some political calculation
I’m thinking they are sticking stuff to losers. Reid is going down. He is not going to win in Nevada. So since he is losing anyway, lets stick stuff to him so it won’t stick to anyone else.
Probably going to see a lot of this manage bad stuff by sticking bad stuff to folks who are already losing in hopes of preserving some winners.
Dont be silly oldcollegeguy.
Have you seen those photoshops of Obama as a witch doctor or with a shine box? Where do you think those came from?
And surely you heard about teaparty.org’s founder Dale Robertson and the lovely sign he was carrying recently.
AP article
Halperin and Heilemanns book
Huh
Must look up their preferred candidate leanings…
Very True. The leak was from by O friendly Ambinder. They want to take away attention from O’s recent blunders. A gossip is going around about Jimmy Carter’s son’s intention to run for Reid’s seat.
It always has been a racist party; from the civil war to today. Oh, they love to tout that Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. What they won’t tell you is that is was passed by a Republican congress over the filibusters by Byrd, et al. They have constantly put down the minorities with empty promises of help, when they are nothing more than making them “slaves” of the government.
I’ve seen those Chappy
I do not know where they came from
Do you?
And do you know for a fact that they were not created by democrats as a diversion and disinformation campaign
Politics is a blood sport
Nothing would suprise me
You got that right.
You may not know exactly who made them, but you sure as hell can’t deny who was circulating them.
I do not know that either
you are entitled to your own opinion
Just not your own individual set of facts
I saw them on the internet as a result of others discussing them
No one ever sent them to me
Let me know when the “Your side is more racist then my side” debate stops.
Oprah is bi-lingual, too.
I was cracking up watching her on TV at the Texas State Fair. She was talking “good-ole boy” on national television. Eee-hawwwwwwwww.
(Hold it! I know what you’re thinking. I was just channel surfing, swear to God.)
oh please oldcollegeguy. Now you are just being purposely obtuse. I was sent one or the other of those emails 3 or 4 times. Let me just say it was never a liberal that forwarded it to me.
And no comment on Dale Robertson? Is he a liberal plant too?
Be sure and watch Glenn Beck today (or tonight) on Fox. His entire audience is of the Nubian persuasion, and they are conservative Americans that are fed up with the Democrats.
jsmiddleton, it had nothing to do with more or less. It has to do with the on it’s face absurd contention that racists are the exclusive provenance of the Democratic Party.
So a couple of people with bad taste makes the entire conservative movement racist? Like I always said, you are some lawyer.
How about looking at the history of the Donk Party? How about a comparison between a lapse in taste or judgment with policy?
Chappy your individual expeience is your individual experience
Perhaps racist individuals for whatever reason feel comfortable corresponding with you
atheling, you are stupid. I didn’t say anything close to that and you know it. Crawl away now. Grown up time.
oldcollegeguy,
STILL no comment on the founder of teaparty.org?
I do not know who he is or what you are asking about
So no I cannot comment on something I do not know anything about
What ever this person has done, take it up with him
“racists are the exclusive provenance of the Democratic Party.”
So the Democratic Party has racist policies but they just aren’t exclusive in doing so?
Perhaps you and your e-mail pals can start a chain mail about whatever this person did
just don’t send me anything
LOL, is that the best you can come up with, lawyer? Ad hominems?
Thanks for proving my point. You are a crappy thinker. And you belong to the Party of Racism.
you can google it easily enough. But you clearly prefer staying willfully ignorant to the racists on your side.
So be it.
atheling,
I would respond to an actual point of yours, if you had one. As it is, the best I can do is call out your obvious lies about my statements.
While this may be very important to you, some one I do not know doing something is of little concern to me
However since Harry Reid is my senator I am concerned that he is either racist or operating with apparent diminished capacity at best
I think my priorities are in order
jsmiddleton,
I said racists, as in persons. I said nothing about policies on either side.
Oldcollegeguy,
I never said you should care as much about Dale Robertson as you do Reid. I just used him as an example to counter your absurd contention.
Chappy thank you for the concern
It is always good to have others concerned for me
I agree with Chap, on this. Both parties have been negligent with minorities. A true conservative, lacking in both parties today, believes and supports equal opportunity, regardless of race.
Talk about wilfully obtuse. The topic was about the Donk Party’s racism in policy – and Reid’s gaffe reflects that mentality. And you invoke a few individual conservatives’ bad judgment or even outright racism to compare? Lame.
Now that I’ve spelled out my “point”, I doubt you have the intellectual honesty to address it. But then honesty is not part of your “character” (and I use that term loosely).
I think we can all agree though that Harry Reid has outed himself as a racist
He should step down from leadership immediately
He should serioously consider resigning
The dialog in terms of which “side” has more racist is pointless. What is not pointless is which policies are or are not racist. The policies of the left and creating voter blocks and people groups who become dependent on government it totally racist. It is the left that sees people in categories so the government can “help” them.
It is the left that needs victims to sell the idea that the government will fix their victomhood.
It is the right that says the government is the problem, not the fix.
The right promotes freedom and as a consequence destroys and breaks down racism. The left promotes dependence and categories which as its consequence promotes racism.
Are there individuals on both sides that are racist? Sure. Who cares?
I’d rather live in an America that is dominated by conservative philosophy ALL of us would be more free.
Please continue with “My side has less racist then your side….”
atheling,
I am glad you agree with me that there are racist conservatives.
I feel we’ve made a real breaktrough, you and I.
And what racist policies, exactly, did you want me to address?
Let me guess…you want to throw that stupid canard about southern Democrats.
As I am sure people here of all places would agree, party label is independent of political philosophy. At least that is what I hear ad nauseum whenever discussing RINOs or whenever Republicans do something that the peanut gallery here doesn’t like.
Failing you being able to grasp that, I would encourage you to look at Buck v Bell. Which justices, exactly, voted for eugenics?
Eugenics lasted well into the 20th century as a means of controlling minority races. At the time, many thought it was a valid scientific fact.
“stupid canard about southern Democrats.”
Nope.
Hardly fair to compare what was, like democrats who belonged in the KKK 70 years ago, to now.
I know folks do that. But it is meaningless.
What is meaningful is the left’s victim mindset in its policies that are designed to create voter blocks, to create folks who think they deserve money, to create folks who keep voting for Democrats even though those same folks stay in a dependent roll.
The left is oppressive and will always be simply because of its belief system.
This case, in particular, dealt with the mentally ill. But I am sure you agree that, whatever the position of Republicans back then, it would be silly of me to claim that Republicans today are the party of eugenics based on what it may have been then, no?
“there are racist conservatives.”
There are racist independents. There are racist athiest, there are racist black Southern Baptist Democrats.
So?
Chappy in that case, has there been a study of the lawyer who represented carrie buck?
Or a discussion of who her counsel was?
I have heard of this case but have not studied it or the players involved
jsmiddleton,
I know no intelligent person would. But please understand I was responding to atheling.
“This case, in particular, dealt with the mentally ill.”
Well lets just get to the Nazi’s and avoid all the fooling around shall we? The Nazi’s were socialist you know. They were leftist. Shall we examine the record of totally commited socialist and the treatment of minorities, handicapped, homosexuals, etc.?
Socialism, progressives, lefist, today’s Democrats will always foster groupings, differences, races. Leftist will always end up being more racist and bringing about more racism and seperation than folks like today’s “right” and conservatives.
It is what leftist end up doing as an outgrowth of their belief system. It is unavoidable.
Just like prosperity for most of us is unavoidable when we have a smaller government and have an generally unhindered pursuit of personal liberty, life and happiness.
It’s interesting. Once again a liberal is throwing out a slur against Conservatives.
Let’s look at one of the most common slurs that liberals throw out against Conservatives – “A Conservative is a Nazi”.
What is a real Nazi?
A real Nazi belongs to the National Socialist Workers Party.
Note the operative term there – Socialist.
There are no known cases of a Conservative also being a socialist. That’s because Conservatism is the antithesis of socialism. So, liberals call Conservatives Nazi’s all the time because they know it infuriates Conservatives while at the same time projection their own ideology.
And now we have another liberal calling Conservatives “racists”.
Different term, same projection.
…aaaaand with that, folks, I will bid you adieu and devote my full attention to something with a semblace of sanity. Jets v Bengals.
Don’t be dumb JHSII. I didn’t slur conservatives by pointing out that a conservative can he racist any more than I am slurring all MM posters by calling your last post stupid and purposly deceitful.
Go Jets !
Jets vs Bengals. Me too. Waiting for the Eagles/Cowboys game.
Meanwhile…in the world…
A typical Chavez reponse:
Let me guess…tomorrow, it is the U.S. at fault. The old political game…create an enemy….
Major oil producer complaining ? Quit pumping then ! Problem solved.
Poleo said investments have been hobbled by a lack of planning, waste and corruption, and that based on his research only about 25 percent to 30 percent of the funds approved for infrastructure upgrades have reached their intended uses.
True conservatives believe that rights should belong to individuals and that all individuals should have exactly the same rights.
Before you agree, let me remind you that tying things like Social Security benefits to marriage gives married people special rights.
Socialism is all about putting the rights of the workers above the rights of others.
Private property rights would mean that owners would have the right to deny admission to their property to anybody, or any group of people, they wanted to exclude. It would also mean people could still smoke cigarettes in restaurants if the owners chose to allow it.
I don’t think that most people actually want freedom any more. They just want power.
That’s why the bans were enforced. Bars that refused smoking lost money so, they used the coercive power of the state to enforce their desire.
Most Americans want to be left alone. They have little interest in specific government action, and have more interest in making ends meet for themselves and their families. They know little of the Constitution, and really could care less. They tend to let emotion and feelings make the decisions for them, politically, rather than logic, which takes time and understanding. Many don’t even know how the government works…and don’t care.
I’m not the one being “dumb”, chappy. Thanks for proving my point though.
Grey this is a very accurate statement
What I see a lot is individuals using that emotion and lack of knowledge against these same people
Misinforamtion passed off as reality
Using emotion to gin up anger about this or that by intentionally misstating facts
The only area of your statement where I have seen some differences, is where you say they don’t know and don’t care
Often the most vociferous of individuals I encounter are individuals who obviously don’t know how the government works yet cannot stop themself from telling everyone they encounter their “opinion” of how it works, stated as fact
Tedious boring dull and probably lonely
These people vote or claim to and that is scary
The food of radicalism.
Exactly
While I was in Russia I emailed my wife who was in Manila. I mentioned the temperature in the email and she happened to tell one of the maids about the temperature (which was something like -15 degrees).
My wife later told me the maid went pale and had to sit because she nearly fainted at the thought of temperatures that low…
Heh. It’s not me who makes the stupid errors of comparing apples to oranges, genius. Mensa has my IQ at 174. What’s yours?
Over at newsbusters:
Stunner: Scared Mass. Dems Plot to Delay GOP Victory In Teddy Seat Until ObamaCare Passes
Gotta love them Dems. Always playing games.
http://www.adamforillinois.com
Mine is usually pretty good, during the week. Then, I sit down, after a great dinner, and watch football. If it was on a meter, one could watch it fall steadily, as each quarter ends. It gets low enough, where I don’t care about Obamacare, or Reid/Pelosi; only interested in the next play from scrimmage. It gets low enough to compete with a Neaderthal, as I yell at the TV over some play, that, in the long run, makes no difference, in the game, or my life. The IQ becomes totally illogical in everything. Ah, the wonders of football playoffs…..
LOL!
lol!!! I like the way you think…..uh….I think….
21-14 now….
24-14 Jets. 5 min. left. Bad officiating though…
Now, to give an example of IQ deteriorating, I was sitting a little while ago, with a very nice rice/beef dish (my wife is Indonesian) on my right side, with a salad on the left (I know, wrong side, who cares). Mouse to laptop in between. Laptop in front. TV in living room, turned to dining room to watch football. Now, please, would someone explain the logic of all this? A nice dinner eaten with little appreciation, with the mouth spending more time yelling, than chewing. The hand using more of the mouse, than the fork. Hey…I love football playoffs!!
The refs are acting stupidly.
Your wife is a football widow. But she must be a good sport if she doesn’t complain that you don’t openly appreciate her cooking.
My mom was a football widow too, but she always said that at least she always knew where her husband was!
It’s over. Refresh the snacks and the drinks, bathroom run, and on to the Cowboys/Eagles.
No. She is more of a football fan than I am. Of course, I have to explain a lot of the game to her, but she loves the action. She was rooting for the Jets. Why? I don’t know; I don’t ask. We live in SE Virginia. So, I had to root for Cincinnati, to make the evening interesting, though I am neutral in reality. I have a suspicion that she will root for the Cowboys again. (Not a good idea with a husband a Redskins fan, but I am forgiving). Sunday, we will repeat the routine, and have a lot of fun. Monday, the mind will recover and it will be the norm, once again.
My wife was a huge Steelers fan.
“Was”, Jeff? Well, since the immaculate reception and the Steel Curtain, one has wondered about the Steelers.
She passed away in Nov. 2006. Lived long enough to see the Super Bowl victory though.
Sorry to see that, Jeff. It was a close one this year, for them, but not enough. Well…next year.
Go Cowboys !
Troy Poalomolu was needed badly. He IS the defensive leader IMO.
For the ladies who support Scott Brown.
From Cosmopolitan.
Bumpersticker idea from Cosmo…
Vote for Brown. He Has One Hell of a Stimulus Package.
Wife wanted to know what the “immaculate reception” was. Thank goodness for youtube. Cowboys could punish the Eagles again…much to the chagin of my best friend, I’ll talk to later.
Jeff,
Not for nothing, and clearly that race is closer than it should be, but PPP, who did that poll, also had Hoffman winning by 16 in NY 23 two days before the election.
Interesting but explainable. Obama believes it’s time for Reid to exit stage left…
Considering this is an open thread, I felt it; along with the Cosmo link was of interest. I’m not claiming anything about it, am I.
BTW, considering NY23 certified negative numbers in the election, I’m hardly surprised.
actually, jeff, it didn’t certify negative results. I know what article you speak of and the original author retracted that claim after he got clarification.
Did anyone catch Glenn Beck today? His audience was soley African Americans. Very interesting and I enjoyed watching it.
Do you have a link? I read the original and thought it was almost as crazy as voting on a bill with a section to be added later. If I misconstrued the facts, I apologize.
I wish, Fox news is considered an upper tier program on Dish network. All we get is CNN.
I have Dish and only pay for their loset tier package and I have Fox News (Channel 205).
Oh! and Go, Dallas!
‘loset’ should be ‘lowest’. Sorry.