Four Saudis disrupt Amsterdam-to-Detroit flight

By Michelle Malkin  •  January 13, 2010 01:07 AM

Nothing to see here, move along:

MyFoxDetroit.com – Sources tell Fox 2 that a flight from Amsterdam into Detroit Metropolitan Airport was held on the tarmac after landing because of unruly behavior by some of the passengers.

The source says four men from Saudi Arabia were saying something in Arabic that alarmed four on-board Federal Air Marshals. The Marshals speak Arabic. A decision was made to stop the plane on the tarmac away from the passenger terminal and remove the men from the plane.

Once the men were removed, the rest of passengers were then taken to the terminal for deboarding. The Transportation Security Administration says the unruly passengers were interviewed by Customs and Border Protection officials. But the TSA says the passengers were released and no arrests were made.

Yep. Same flight line that the Crotch Bomber took.

It’s all just a joke and misunderstanding, of course.

Did they have visas? What kind? For how long? Who issued them and when? If they were indeed Saudi nationals, were they even interviewed by consular officials before obtaining visas to enter this country? Thanks to those confidentiality rules that protect them from any and all scrutiny, the State Department will get a pass again.

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  1. #1
    On January 13th, 2010 at 1:22 am, b-cat said:

    Probing the defenses for weaknesses.

  2. #2
    On January 13th, 2010 at 1:23 am, et said:

    Hillary, You got some explainin to do.

  3. #3
    On January 13th, 2010 at 1:27 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    FOUR flight marshals on 1 plane? Sounds like locking the barn door after the horse ran away. I would hate to be caught in the cross fire if one of the Saudis had coughed hard.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  4. #4
    On January 13th, 2010 at 3:34 am, Papa Louie said:

    Delta Air Lines spokeswoman Susan Elliott said four passengers on Northwest Airlines Flight 243 were not complying with crew members. Authorities in Michigan said the men made inappropriate jokes about terror in Arabic, which caught the attention of an air marshal onboard who also spoke Arabic. … The men were interviewed by Customs and Border Protection officials, but no arrests were made, the Transportation Security Administration said.

    Is everyone who makes jokes about terror and refuses to comply with the flight crew treated this way? Or is it just Muslims who get a pass?

  5. #5
    On January 13th, 2010 at 3:54 am, Hangfire said:

    Don’t bother Hillary.

    She’s busy here in Hawaii.

  6. #6
    On January 13th, 2010 at 4:40 am, Uplander said:

    Just another day on Allah’s Dearborn Express.

  7. #7
    On January 13th, 2010 at 4:42 am, Uplander said:

    I’d like to know more about the relationship between Amsterdam and Dearborn Michigan which is the largest Islamic enclave in the US, possibly the largest in the Western Hemisphere.

  8. #8
    On January 13th, 2010 at 5:24 am, ssnark said:

    On January 13th, 2010 at 3:34 am, Papa Louie said:

    Is everyone who makes jokes about terror and refuses to comply with the flight crew treated this way? Or is it just Muslims who get a pass?

    I’ve seen teenaged kids who didn’t take the signs seriously about not joking about explosives and terrorism pulled out and questioned and unruly businessmen who thought they were the exception to the Federal Law that says that its illegal to refuse to comply with flight crew instructions (and they exercise a great deal of discretion) on one flight into San Antonio, it was a drunk PVT fresh out of BCT at Ft. Leonard Wood who’d been given a bit too much to drink. If I hadn’t interceded and the person next to me hadn’t been nice enough to trade seats with the boy he’d have had to explain to the nice men from SAPD and then to his command why an eighteen year old was drinking in the first place.
    So yes, from what I’ve seen they’re pretty even handed about enforcing the regulation that terrorism is no joking matter whether you’re a Saudi National or some kid. The law about complying with aircrew instructions is perhaps a little less evenly meted out but whether you’re a drunk Pakistani, a hyper-important businessman or just a green recruit pretending he is what he isn’t yet it can and will be enforced.

    BTW, I guess the Saudis on that flight really did the pooch. Four Air Marshals heading out from DTW. Not all of them were probably ‘on-duty’ but rather heading to Amsterdam to catch different flights. I bet that got their attention and gave them pause to think. It also gives me pause to think. There are a lot of binary explosives that could pass current mechanical explosives screening (Yes, I too believe in and prefer bomb dogs.) and a US flagged carrier going down whether incoming or outgoing is still a plane load of people down. We know they’ve stepped up incoming screenings but what of outbound passengers?

  9. #9
    On January 13th, 2010 at 6:34 am, deadlywit said:

    Behavioral screening. I repeat, behavioral screening.

  10. #10
    On January 13th, 2010 at 7:19 am, jamesgreenidge said:

    OFF TOPIC AS MM SEED TOPIC:

    Anyone catch the MSNBC quip early this morning on Hatii’s quake. “With someone who cares at the helm this time, this won’t be Katrina.”

    Really angry. No one mentions Hatii’s uppity snobby next door neighbor’s relative lack of assist, oft known for shoving boat-Hatiians back out off the beaches!

    James Greenidge
    Queens NY

  11. #11
    On January 13th, 2010 at 7:21 am, jjmurphy said:

    They should have been put on the next plane back to Amsterdam. At the very least they should have been made to pay a huge fine to cover the cost of the delay and compensate the other passengers for any missed flights or appointments, and just the hassle of having to put up with their stupidity.

    We will continue to get this behavior from Middle-eastern muslims until we make it “unprofitable” for them.

  12. #12
    On January 13th, 2010 at 7:47 am, jangar said:

    DHS has now morphed into a covert coverup operation like the MSM. If there is any information of value to mine in order to protect Americans, it will be burried, as will valuable information for the public.

  13. #13
    On January 13th, 2010 at 8:20 am, rambler said:

    I still don’t understand why Saudis can still fly here. Is the state dept not concerned that the Saudis support terrorism?

  14. #14
    On January 13th, 2010 at 8:24 am, Mark x said:

    …which caught the attention of an air marshal onboard who also spoke Arabic..

    Well least there is some good news. Arabic speaking Air Marshals …GOOD!

  15. #15
    On January 13th, 2010 at 8:33 am, MtsEdge said:

    Anyone catch the MSNBC quip early this morning on Hatii’s quake. “With someone who cares at the helm this time, this won’t be Katrina.”

    Assuming they’re referencing Barack Hussein Obama (who else would they be talking about?), does MSNBC realize that Haiti is not part of the US? Too eager to bash Bush, while the US burns down around us.

    After the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, there were those of us in this country who sent donations (and went) to help with cleanup and to relieve the suffering of those left behind. This has NOTHING to do with FEMA or any government entity. It’s merely human compassion. Wonder how many MSNBC commentators sent donations or went to help (not just to exploit the suffering)?

  16. #16
    On January 13th, 2010 at 8:34 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Four Saudis disrupt Amsterdam-to-Detroit flight

    Okay, we know what muslims are up to. What scares the hell out of me is why, oh why, do we hear nada on what grandmas are up to. I may never fly again until I have this info! :roll:

  17. #17
    On January 13th, 2010 at 8:35 am, MtsEdge said:

    What a blessing that the air marshals understood what was being said. Being unruly and joking about terrorism in Arabic? Definitely testing the system.

    Dearborn Michigan which is the largest Islamic enclave in the US, possibly the largest in the Western Hemisphere.

    Hence BHO’s remark about the US being “the largest muslim country”?

  18. #18
    On January 13th, 2010 at 8:38 am, Lindsay said:

    It is all a test, folks.

    Passive-aggression is the cover-up answer to “just joking.” These joking jackasses should have maximum fines and visas revoked.

    They want to see what happens. Now they know some air marshalls speak Arabic, so they will have to communicate in other ways.

    I also wondered about the Amsterdam and Detroit/Deerborn connection.

  19. #19
    On January 13th, 2010 at 8:43 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On January 13th, 2010 at 7:19 am, jamesgreenidge said:
    OFF TOPIC AS MM SEED TOPIC:

    Anyone catch the MSNBC quip early this morning on Hatii’s quake. “With someone who cares at the helm this time, this won’t be Katrina.”

    Kissing the do-nothing US AmbASSador Bill Clinton’s hind end I see.

    I wonder what our POTUS will send – from his own pocket and not mine. I sent my $1000. I challenge him.

    Click on my moniker to donate to a great organization – Heartline Ministries. The funds collected by our organization will be directed to them.

    Sorry again Michelle. Hope you understand.

  20. #20
    On January 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am, cheapseat said:

    is there a point where our gubmint is going to tell the saudi king if he can’t rein in his crazies, arabia faces the iraq solution. check my history, but wasn’t 17 of the 19 tower attackers saudi, and we went after iraq as a proxy because it had a jerk as a leader and a large sunni population. maybe we should be encouraging the iranians and shias to FIX SAUDI ARABIA.

  21. #21
    On January 13th, 2010 at 8:52 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On January 13th, 2010 at 8:45 am, cheapseat said:
    FIX SAUDI ARABIA.

    The stooopid voters did. They elected a muslim. Now the whole world loves us, has joined hands singing.

    Problem solved. Idiots.

  22. #22
    On January 13th, 2010 at 9:02 am, Flyoverman said:

    Reason 12,385 to become energy independent and let the Saudis, Hugo, etc. sit and rotate on their single point of contact.

  23. #23
    On January 13th, 2010 at 9:03 am, jangar said:

    Wonder how many MSNBC commentators sent donations or went to help (not just to exploit the suffering)?

    Zero. It’s a task left to conservatives and Christians with compassion.

    is there a point where our gubmint is going to tell the saudi king if he can’t rein in his crazies, arabia faces the iraq solution.

    No. They have their sights trained on Yemen and Pakistan, but not the breeders and financiers of radicalism.

  24. #24
    On January 13th, 2010 at 9:05 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Do we at least know what kind of underwear they were wearing, Hanes or Fruit of the Loom? Sheesh, stupid media can’t even get that!

  25. #25
    On January 13th, 2010 at 9:10 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On January 13th, 2010 at 9:05 am, Rogue Cheddar said:
    Do we at least know what kind of underwear they were wearing, Hanes or Fruit of the Loom? Sheesh, stupid media can’t even get that!

    Now Rouge, surly you do NOT want to violate their civil rights. I heard that granny was wearing Depends though. We will not talk about the bomb she had in there though. ;)

  26. #26
    On January 13th, 2010 at 9:16 am, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    We have to be very careful here. It looks like the Islamic terrorists are trying to distract us by causing our media to focus on air security at the expense of mall, church, or school security.

  27. #27
    On January 13th, 2010 at 9:21 am, xler8bmw said:

    One more reason to become energy reliant. Stop sending money to these terrorist states. Oh wait that makes too much sense. Sorry lost my mind there for a sec.

  28. #28
    On January 13th, 2010 at 9:25 am, Savage24 said:

    Don’t you feel more secure now that DHS has tightened their regulations? The air marshals will probably be cited for porfiling.

  29. #29
    On January 13th, 2010 at 9:36 am, gridlock said:

    testing… TESTING…

    TESTING 1-2-3…

    Is this thing on?

  30. #30
    On January 13th, 2010 at 9:51 am, vickisoup said:

    On January 13th, 2010 at 1:22 am, b-cat said:
    Probing the defenses for weaknesses.

    This was exactly my thought. Now they know we have four air marshalls on flights, they know those air marshalls speak (or at least understand) Arabic, and they know how such behavior will be handled. Congratulations, Jafar Abdullah and Company! Well done!
    :roll:

  31. #31
    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:00 am, Tazed and Confused said:

    Let them practice their routines on Air Force One. Obama is oblivious to security, and any collateral result would go unnoticed.

  32. #32
    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:02 am, Truesoldier said:

    I am waiting for these four to lawyer up and sue for being “racially profilled” by the four air marshalls and flight crew.

  33. #33
    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:04 am, jangar said:

    Let them practice their routines on Air Force One. Obama is oblivious to security, and any collateral result would go unnoticed.

    Brown skinned, air party crashers comes to mind…

  34. #34
    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:04 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Obama to address this in 9,999,999,999…9,999,999,998…

  35. #35
    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:06 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Why are we still issuing visas to Saudis?

    And does Harry Reid know if our Arabic-speaking Air Marshals are light-skinned and have an accent?

  36. #36
    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:07 am, PatriotRider said:

    Anyone notice that Obama makes a statement about an earthquake in another country faster than making a statment regarding an attempted airline bombing in his own?

  37. #37
    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:07 am, Mostly Annoyed said:

    People always complain about how hard it is to get a visa to the US, even more about how hard it is to immigrate to the US. Look at some other contries, mostly the ones that complain the loudest. It is very difficult to get a visa for Saudi Arabia, and impossible to become a naturalised citizen. WHY DO WE ALLOW PEOPLE IN SO EASILY AND BECOME CITIZENS WHEN THEIR COUNTRIES DON’T? Are our leaders that stupid or just corrupt. I vote for both.

  38. #38
    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:29 am, jangar said:

    Anyone notice that Obama makes a statement about an earthquake in another country faster than making a statment regarding an attempted airline bombing in his own?

    I doubt this is his country…which would explain alot.

  39. #39
    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:32 am, Red Ted said:

    This is a test, this is only a test.

  40. #40
    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:33 am, graysonret said:

    even more about how hard it is to immigrate to the US.

    For 3 years, my wife has tried to get a legal green card in this country. Even after hiring a lawyer for $4500, it’s been a year since we’ve pushed her status through him and his firm. It would have been cheaper to get an illegal green card and let her go to work. The latest hang-up has been her birth certificate. She has an Engllish version, but the State Dept. wants an original which can’t be had, since the records building burned down years ago. Now they want 2 witnesses to her birth. She’s 59 years old. There aren’t any witnesses! Try to explain that to the government. We hope now that a federal judge will accept the petition/explanation. Too bad she didn’t come from Mexico.

  41. #41
    On January 13th, 2010 at 11:01 am, mojo said:

    “It was just a joke!”
    “Yeah? Well so’s this.” (thump)
    “Ow! Hey, I’m bleeding!”
    “Hey, it was a joke! Laugh it up, funny boy.”

  42. #42
    On January 13th, 2010 at 11:02 am, Living in the PSRK said:

    Good news for the people of Haiti:

    France’s foreign minister says the head of the U.N. mission in Haiti appears to have died in the earthquake.

    Bernard Kouchner said the French ambassador had visited the devastated U.N. headquarters building in Port-au-Prince and said “everyone who was in the building is apparently dead” including Tunisian diplomat Hedi Annabi Annabi. The U.N. has maintained a peacekeeping force in Haiti since 2004.

    Perhaps Someone else is disgusted with the U.N.?

  43. #43
    On January 13th, 2010 at 11:08 am, plymouthacclaim said:

    The deliberate ineptitude and willful ignorance of our “leaders” should scare everyone.
    I fly a lot. Therefore, it terrifies me.

  44. #44
    On January 13th, 2010 at 11:29 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI_ON_MY_SOAP_BOX–#21. Thank you for your $1000. help for the people of Haiti-another failed “nation”. I have sent $25 a month to Food For The Poor charity there for many years. $25 a month to either George or the school would be a Godsend.
    ***
    Your comments on charity are dead on target. Good Christians, Jews, and conservatives use their own money to help others. Liberals–and apparently Comrade Obama–talk a good fight about helping the poor. But only with Other People’s Money–never with their own.
    ***
    I think The Messiah’s Kenyan half brother George is still living on $12 a year! And I doubt that The One ever sent the help he promised to the Kenyan school that changed it’s name to the Obama School a few years ago.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  45. #45
    On January 13th, 2010 at 11:38 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI GRAYSONRET #42–I hope you will be able to get your wife’s immigration problems solved soon. It’s true–we take better care of the ILLEGAL ALIENS (not “undocumented immigrants”) than those who follow our laws, pay big money, get police cards, background checks, etc. We send the illegals to the front of the line instead of helping the much more honest immigrants.
    ***
    My Mexican wife came here legally 40 years ago–and waited with her family in Cd. Juarez until she could join me.
    ***
    Later her parents immigrated here legally and lived near us. We had to sign legally binding support documents for them. I had to prove my income–bank statements, employer letters, tax returns, etc. Ditto for a brother and his family long ago–all good legal hard working educated citizens now.
    ***
    Our immigration system is badly broken–and needs to be fixed. Instead we give visas to those who want to kill us, and to those who break our laws.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  46. #46
    On January 13th, 2010 at 11:46 am, rightwingmom said:

    Sick and tired of the PC CRAP!!!
    They’re TESTING us!

    Wake up America!

  47. #47
    On January 13th, 2010 at 11:51 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    We need to put James Bond type ejection seats on these airliners.

    OOps-there goes another one.

    n January 13th, 2010 at 1:23 am, et said:

    Hillary, You got some explainin to do.

    That would be ‘splanin ;)

  48. #48
    On January 13th, 2010 at 11:54 am, plymouthacclaim said:

    The source says four men from Saudi Arabia were saying something in Arabic that alarmed four on-board Federal Air Marshals. The Marshals speak Arabic.

    Hold on here, a question just leaped screaming into my mind:

    WHAT DID THEY SAY!?!?!?!?

    What was so alarming that they took these creeps off the plane?
    I think we deserve to know.

  49. #49
    On January 13th, 2010 at 12:07 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Is everyone who makes jokes about terror and refuses to comply with the flight crew treated this way? Or is it just Muslims who get a pass?

    I’ll answer your second question first:

    Yes.

    If I kidded someone in Las Vegas McCarran, I’d be in shackles & they’d keep my Gucci shoes.

  50. #50
    On January 13th, 2010 at 12:18 pm, walterc said:

    I too am wondering why we have Saudi’s flying into the U.S. Particularly young Saudi men. Is our government really that stupid? No need to answer that.

    From what I’ve seen of Haiti over the past 20 years, how do you tell there was an earthquake? Between the various wars/coups and poverty, the place always looks like a disaster aftermath.

  51. #51
    On January 13th, 2010 at 12:28 pm, sbw999 said:

    Too bad for them they werent arrested. Then, like the Imams from 4 years ago, these clowns could sue and get millions in damages from our joke of a legal system. They will probably sue anyway.

  52. #52
    On January 13th, 2010 at 1:18 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Did they have visas? What kind? For how long? Who issued them and when? If they were indeed Saudi nationals, were they even interviewed by consular officials before obtaining visas to enter this country? Thanks to those confidentiality rules that protect them from any and all scrutiny, the State Department will get a pass again.

    Wait, look over there, Nuns, “Hey you, Sister, stop!”

  53. #53
    On January 13th, 2010 at 1:19 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Four Air Marshals heading out from DTW. Not all of them were probably ‘on-duty’ but rather heading to Amsterdam to catch different flights.

    Uh yeah, except it was flight from Amsterdam to Detroit…

  54. #54
    On January 13th, 2010 at 1:34 pm, granite said:

    On January 13th, 2010 at 10:29 am, jangar said:

    Anyone notice that Obama makes a statement about an earthquake in another country faster than making a statment regarding an attempted airline bombing in his own?

    I doubt this is his country…which would explain alot.

    Exactly.

  55. #55
    On January 13th, 2010 at 2:19 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    We are looking in the wrong place! Cut all ties to Saudi Arabia. I think they are behind all of these probing incidents and are financing terrorism under the cover of students studying in this country as one means of setting up cells in the US. After all, money talks and B.S. walks.

  56. #56
    On January 13th, 2010 at 2:52 pm, graysonret said:

    Interesting article about the decline of Al-Qaida.

    http://greathistory.com/al-qaida-and-the-dustbin-of-history.htm

  57. #57
    On January 13th, 2010 at 11:00 pm, Rorschach said:

    All this is is an attempt to keep us looking in the wrong place for the wrong kind of attack, while they ship an Iranian or Paki, or NK nuke into Galveston Bay in a seagoing container and set the damned thing off before the ship even makes port. the simple fact of the matter is that if these guys were halfway intelligent and were actually TRYING they could smuggle kilos of explosives onto the plane with commercially available detonators that don’t use any metals at all, (I’ve worked out how, but I will not explain for obvious reasons.). Therefore these guys are just amateurs that are being used to keep us distracted and looking the wrong direction.

  58. #58
    On January 14th, 2010 at 12:13 am, ssnark said:

    On January 13th, 2010 at 1:19 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    ssnark said:
    Four Air Marshals heading out from DTW. Not all of them were probably ‘on-duty’ but rather heading to Amsterdam to catch different flights.

    Uh yeah, except it was flight from Amsterdam to Detroit…

    Doh! You’re right NWA FLT 253 again. Interesting. Sunday DTW arrival inbound.

    Interesting. Four on an inbound, unusual. I wonder if there’s something else here that’s not been disclosed. Oh to be a fly on the wall.

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