Four Saudis disrupt Amsterdam-to-Detroit flight
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MyFoxDetroit.com – Sources tell Fox 2 that a flight from Amsterdam into Detroit Metropolitan Airport was held on the tarmac after landing because of unruly behavior by some of the passengers.
The source says four men from Saudi Arabia were saying something in Arabic that alarmed four on-board Federal Air Marshals. The Marshals speak Arabic. A decision was made to stop the plane on the tarmac away from the passenger terminal and remove the men from the plane.
Once the men were removed, the rest of passengers were then taken to the terminal for deboarding. The Transportation Security Administration says the unruly passengers were interviewed by Customs and Border Protection officials. But the TSA says the passengers were released and no arrests were made.
Yep. Same flight line that the Crotch Bomber took.
It’s all just a joke and misunderstanding, of course.
Did they have visas? What kind? For how long? Who issued them and when? If they were indeed Saudi nationals, were they even interviewed by consular officials before obtaining visas to enter this country? Thanks to those confidentiality rules that protect them from any and all scrutiny, the State Department will get a pass again.
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Probing the defenses for weaknesses.
Hillary, You got some explainin to do.
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FOUR flight marshals on 1 plane? Sounds like locking the barn door after the horse ran away. I would hate to be caught in the cross fire if one of the Saudis had coughed hard.
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John Bibb
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Is everyone who makes jokes about terror and refuses to comply with the flight crew treated this way? Or is it just Muslims who get a pass?
Don’t bother Hillary.
She’s busy here in Hawaii.
Just another day on Allah’s Dearborn Express.
I’d like to know more about the relationship between Amsterdam and Dearborn Michigan which is the largest Islamic enclave in the US, possibly the largest in the Western Hemisphere.
On January 13th, 2010 at 3:34 am, Papa Louie said:
I’ve seen teenaged kids who didn’t take the signs seriously about not joking about explosives and terrorism pulled out and questioned and unruly businessmen who thought they were the exception to the Federal Law that says that its illegal to refuse to comply with flight crew instructions (and they exercise a great deal of discretion) on one flight into San Antonio, it was a drunk PVT fresh out of BCT at Ft. Leonard Wood who’d been given a bit too much to drink. If I hadn’t interceded and the person next to me hadn’t been nice enough to trade seats with the boy he’d have had to explain to the nice men from SAPD and then to his command why an eighteen year old was drinking in the first place.
So yes, from what I’ve seen they’re pretty even handed about enforcing the regulation that terrorism is no joking matter whether you’re a Saudi National or some kid. The law about complying with aircrew instructions is perhaps a little less evenly meted out but whether you’re a drunk Pakistani, a hyper-important businessman or just a green recruit pretending he is what he isn’t yet it can and will be enforced.
BTW, I guess the Saudis on that flight really did the pooch. Four Air Marshals heading out from DTW. Not all of them were probably ‘on-duty’ but rather heading to Amsterdam to catch different flights. I bet that got their attention and gave them pause to think. It also gives me pause to think. There are a lot of binary explosives that could pass current mechanical explosives screening (Yes, I too believe in and prefer bomb dogs.) and a US flagged carrier going down whether incoming or outgoing is still a plane load of people down. We know they’ve stepped up incoming screenings but what of outbound passengers?
Behavioral screening. I repeat, behavioral screening.
OFF TOPIC AS MM SEED TOPIC:
Anyone catch the MSNBC quip early this morning on Hatii’s quake. “With someone who cares at the helm this time, this won’t be Katrina.”
Really angry. No one mentions Hatii’s uppity snobby next door neighbor’s relative lack of assist, oft known for shoving boat-Hatiians back out off the beaches!
James Greenidge
Queens NY
They should have been put on the next plane back to Amsterdam. At the very least they should have been made to pay a huge fine to cover the cost of the delay and compensate the other passengers for any missed flights or appointments, and just the hassle of having to put up with their stupidity.
We will continue to get this behavior from Middle-eastern muslims until we make it “unprofitable” for them.
DHS has now morphed into a covert coverup operation like the MSM. If there is any information of value to mine in order to protect Americans, it will be burried, as will valuable information for the public.
I still don’t understand why Saudis can still fly here. Is the state dept not concerned that the Saudis support terrorism?
Well least there is some good news. Arabic speaking Air Marshals …GOOD!
Assuming they’re referencing Barack Hussein Obama (who else would they be talking about?), does MSNBC realize that Haiti is not part of the US? Too eager to bash Bush, while the US burns down around us.
After the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, there were those of us in this country who sent donations (and went) to help with cleanup and to relieve the suffering of those left behind. This has NOTHING to do with FEMA or any government entity. It’s merely human compassion. Wonder how many MSNBC commentators sent donations or went to help (not just to exploit the suffering)?
Okay, we know what muslims are up to. What scares the hell out of me is why, oh why, do we hear nada on what grandmas are up to. I may never fly again until I have this info!
What a blessing that the air marshals understood what was being said. Being unruly and joking about terrorism in Arabic? Definitely testing the system.
Hence BHO’s remark about the US being “the largest muslim country”?
It is all a test, folks.
Passive-aggression is the cover-up answer to “just joking.” These joking jackasses should have maximum fines and visas revoked.
They want to see what happens. Now they know some air marshalls speak Arabic, so they will have to communicate in other ways.
I also wondered about the Amsterdam and Detroit/Deerborn connection.
Kissing the do-nothing US AmbASSador Bill Clinton’s hind end I see.
I wonder what our POTUS will send – from his own pocket and not mine. I sent my $1000. I challenge him.
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Sorry again Michelle. Hope you understand.
is there a point where our gubmint is going to tell the saudi king if he can’t rein in his crazies, arabia faces the iraq solution. check my history, but wasn’t 17 of the 19 tower attackers saudi, and we went after iraq as a proxy because it had a jerk as a leader and a large sunni population. maybe we should be encouraging the iranians and shias to FIX SAUDI ARABIA.
The stooopid voters did. They elected a muslim. Now the whole world loves us, has joined hands singing.
Problem solved. Idiots.
Reason 12,385 to become energy independent and let the Saudis, Hugo, etc. sit and rotate on their single point of contact.
Zero. It’s a task left to conservatives and Christians with compassion.
No. They have their sights trained on Yemen and Pakistan, but not the breeders and financiers of radicalism.
Do we at least know what kind of underwear they were wearing, Hanes or Fruit of the Loom? Sheesh, stupid media can’t even get that!
Now Rouge, surly you do NOT want to violate their civil rights. I heard that granny was wearing Depends though. We will not talk about the bomb she had in there though.
We have to be very careful here. It looks like the Islamic terrorists are trying to distract us by causing our media to focus on air security at the expense of mall, church, or school security.
One more reason to become energy reliant. Stop sending money to these terrorist states. Oh wait that makes too much sense. Sorry lost my mind there for a sec.
Don’t you feel more secure now that DHS has tightened their regulations? The air marshals will probably be cited for porfiling.
testing… TESTING…
TESTING 1-2-3…
Is this thing on?
This was exactly my thought. Now they know we have four air marshalls on flights, they know those air marshalls speak (or at least understand) Arabic, and they know how such behavior will be handled. Congratulations, Jafar Abdullah and Company! Well done!
Let them practice their routines on Air Force One. Obama is oblivious to security, and any collateral result would go unnoticed.
I am waiting for these four to lawyer up and sue for being “racially profilled” by the four air marshalls and flight crew.
Brown skinned, air party crashers comes to mind…
Obama to address this in 9,999,999,999…9,999,999,998…
Why are we still issuing visas to Saudis?
And does Harry Reid know if our Arabic-speaking Air Marshals are light-skinned and have an accent?
Anyone notice that Obama makes a statement about an earthquake in another country faster than making a statment regarding an attempted airline bombing in his own?
People always complain about how hard it is to get a visa to the US, even more about how hard it is to immigrate to the US. Look at some other contries, mostly the ones that complain the loudest. It is very difficult to get a visa for Saudi Arabia, and impossible to become a naturalised citizen. WHY DO WE ALLOW PEOPLE IN SO EASILY AND BECOME CITIZENS WHEN THEIR COUNTRIES DON’T? Are our leaders that stupid or just corrupt. I vote for both.
I doubt this is his country…which would explain alot.
This is a test, this is only a test.
For 3 years, my wife has tried to get a legal green card in this country. Even after hiring a lawyer for $4500, it’s been a year since we’ve pushed her status through him and his firm. It would have been cheaper to get an illegal green card and let her go to work. The latest hang-up has been her birth certificate. She has an Engllish version, but the State Dept. wants an original which can’t be had, since the records building burned down years ago. Now they want 2 witnesses to her birth. She’s 59 years old. There aren’t any witnesses! Try to explain that to the government. We hope now that a federal judge will accept the petition/explanation. Too bad she didn’t come from Mexico.
“It was just a joke!”
“Yeah? Well so’s this.” (thump)
“Ow! Hey, I’m bleeding!”
“Hey, it was a joke! Laugh it up, funny boy.”
Good news for the people of Haiti:
Perhaps Someone else is disgusted with the U.N.?
The deliberate ineptitude and willful ignorance of our “leaders” should scare everyone.
I fly a lot. Therefore, it terrifies me.
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HI_ON_MY_SOAP_BOX–#21. Thank you for your $1000. help for the people of Haiti-another failed “nation”. I have sent $25 a month to Food For The Poor charity there for many years. $25 a month to either George or the school would be a Godsend.
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Your comments on charity are dead on target. Good Christians, Jews, and conservatives use their own money to help others. Liberals–and apparently Comrade Obama–talk a good fight about helping the poor. But only with Other People’s Money–never with their own.
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I think The Messiah’s Kenyan half brother George is still living on $12 a year! And I doubt that The One ever sent the help he promised to the Kenyan school that changed it’s name to the Obama School a few years ago.
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John Bibb
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HI GRAYSONRET #42–I hope you will be able to get your wife’s immigration problems solved soon. It’s true–we take better care of the ILLEGAL ALIENS (not “undocumented immigrants”) than those who follow our laws, pay big money, get police cards, background checks, etc. We send the illegals to the front of the line instead of helping the much more honest immigrants.
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My Mexican wife came here legally 40 years ago–and waited with her family in Cd. Juarez until she could join me.
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Later her parents immigrated here legally and lived near us. We had to sign legally binding support documents for them. I had to prove my income–bank statements, employer letters, tax returns, etc. Ditto for a brother and his family long ago–all good legal hard working educated citizens now.
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Our immigration system is badly broken–and needs to be fixed. Instead we give visas to those who want to kill us, and to those who break our laws.
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John Bibb
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Sick and tired of the PC CRAP!!!
They’re TESTING us!
Wake up America!
We need to put James Bond type ejection seats on these airliners.
OOps-there goes another one.
That would be ‘splanin
Hold on here, a question just leaped screaming into my mind:
WHAT DID THEY SAY!?!?!?!?
What was so alarming that they took these creeps off the plane?
I think we deserve to know.
I’ll answer your second question first:
Yes.
If I kidded someone in Las Vegas McCarran, I’d be in shackles & they’d keep my Gucci shoes.
I too am wondering why we have Saudi’s flying into the U.S. Particularly young Saudi men. Is our government really that stupid? No need to answer that.
From what I’ve seen of Haiti over the past 20 years, how do you tell there was an earthquake? Between the various wars/coups and poverty, the place always looks like a disaster aftermath.
Too bad for them they werent arrested. Then, like the Imams from 4 years ago, these clowns could sue and get millions in damages from our joke of a legal system. They will probably sue anyway.
Wait, look over there, Nuns, “Hey you, Sister, stop!”
Uh yeah, except it was flight from Amsterdam to Detroit…
Exactly.
We are looking in the wrong place! Cut all ties to Saudi Arabia. I think they are behind all of these probing incidents and are financing terrorism under the cover of students studying in this country as one means of setting up cells in the US. After all, money talks and B.S. walks.
Interesting article about the decline of Al-Qaida.
http://greathistory.com/al-qaida-and-the-dustbin-of-history.htm
All this is is an attempt to keep us looking in the wrong place for the wrong kind of attack, while they ship an Iranian or Paki, or NK nuke into Galveston Bay in a seagoing container and set the damned thing off before the ship even makes port. the simple fact of the matter is that if these guys were halfway intelligent and were actually TRYING they could smuggle kilos of explosives onto the plane with commercially available detonators that don’t use any metals at all, (I’ve worked out how, but I will not explain for obvious reasons.). Therefore these guys are just amateurs that are being used to keep us distracted and looking the wrong direction.
On January 13th, 2010 at 1:19 pm, AlohaGuy said:
Doh! You’re right NWA FLT 253 again. Interesting. Sunday DTW arrival inbound.
Interesting. Four on an inbound, unusual. I wonder if there’s something else here that’s not been disclosed. Oh to be a fly on the wall.