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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; ClimateGate update: Mann handled</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-884586</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; ClimateGate update: Mann handled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] month, I compiled a link round-up for you on ClimateGate con artist Michael Mann of Penn State [...]</description>
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		<title>By: corkie</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-872545</link>
		<dc:creator>corkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 00:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On January 15th, 2010 at 2:59 pm, pecze said:

This whole mess makes me embarrassed to be a Penn State grad.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Penn State grads need to let the university know that they&#039;d better be very careful about risking its reputation with Mann.

If they white wash something which has already been determined to be a fraud, then there&#039;s going to be trouble for the Penn State brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On January 15th, 2010 at 2:59 pm, pecze said:</p>
<p>This whole mess makes me embarrassed to be a Penn State grad.</p></blockquote>
<p>Penn State grads need to let the university know that they&#8217;d better be very careful about risking its reputation with Mann.</p>
<p>If they white wash something which has already been determined to be a fraud, then there&#8217;s going to be trouble for the Penn State brand.</p>
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		<title>By: The Snooper Report</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-872375</link>
		<dc:creator>The Snooper Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Don&#039;t Tell Al Gore That Climate Change Is A Sham...&lt;/strong&gt;

UHOH!
Times of London ......</description>
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<p>UHOH!<br />
Times of London &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CO2 Theory Hit Hard by Recent Global Cooling &#171; OBRL-News Blog</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-872269</link>
		<dc:creator>CO2 Theory Hit Hard by Recent Global Cooling &#171; OBRL-News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Mann, author of &quot;Hockey Stick&quot; under investigation http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michael Mann, author of &quot;Hockey Stick&quot; under investigation <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/" rel="nofollow">http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RabbidSquirrel</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-872242</link>
		<dc:creator>RabbidSquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just fyi, you have to understand grant writing in an academic setting, as opposed to writing a grant for a non-profit or as a business endeavor. Most of the money goes to the &lt;em&gt;school&lt;/em&gt;, not the researcher. (it could be that PennState has a special agreement with Prof Mann) Usually there is a particular person or department withing a university who specializes in grant writing. When you have a person that that has the talent to write successful grants and can bring home the gravy, you dont want to let them ever leave. 

One of the secrets is that you never really quite get the full answer to what you are researching, which means you always need another grant so that you can research more

The professor is already a state employee so they are not usually permitted to make an additional income from their grants. The people that actually do the bulk of the work/research are the grad students and they are paid via a work-study or small stipend.


and @Dimsdale/@bansharia, we havent been able to hit pledges since the 80&#039;s whether we liked it or not lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just fyi, you have to understand grant writing in an academic setting, as opposed to writing a grant for a non-profit or as a business endeavor. Most of the money goes to the <em>school</em>, not the researcher. (it could be that PennState has a special agreement with Prof Mann) Usually there is a particular person or department withing a university who specializes in grant writing. When you have a person that that has the talent to write successful grants and can bring home the gravy, you dont want to let them ever leave. </p>
<p>One of the secrets is that you never really quite get the full answer to what you are researching, which means you always need another grant so that you can research more</p>
<p>The professor is already a state employee so they are not usually permitted to make an additional income from their grants. The people that actually do the bulk of the work/research are the grad students and they are paid via a work-study or small stipend.</p>
<p>and @Dimsdale/@bansharia, we havent been able to hit pledges since the 80&#8242;s whether we liked it or not lol</p>
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		<title>By: cicerokid</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-872219</link>
		<dc:creator>cicerokid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 21:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manfred Mann&#039;s Earth Band &quot;Blinded by the light&quot; makes sense now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manfred Mann&#8217;s Earth Band &#8220;Blinded by the light&#8221; makes sense now.</p>
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		<title>By: Impartial Mann Investigation? Whatever Do You Mean? &#171; SOYLENT GREEN</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-872103</link>
		<dc:creator>Impartial Mann Investigation? Whatever Do You Mean? &#171; SOYLENT GREEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what I call a money quote. Michelle is on it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bansharia</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-872028</link>
		<dc:creator>bansharia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dim,
butt butt butt dont those greek boys like that sort of thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dim,<br />
butt butt butt dont those greek boys like that sort of thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Dimsdale</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-871871</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mann, Gore and the East Anglia frauds should be beaten like fraternity pledges with hockey sticks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mann, Gore and the East Anglia frauds should be beaten like fraternity pledges with hockey sticks.</p>
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		<title>By: bansharia</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-871841</link>
		<dc:creator>bansharia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,
well you woulda ;)
both Stephen and Matt had fantastic lines/presentations.
that the penn state spokestool felt a need to respond says they fear us REAL AMERICANS
someone queue lyin eyes for me
WE are watchin YOU !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,<br />
well you woulda <img src='http://s.michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/themes/mm/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
both Stephen and Matt had fantastic lines/presentations.<br />
that the penn state spokestool felt a need to respond says they fear us REAL AMERICANS<br />
someone queue lyin eyes for me<br />
WE are watchin YOU !</p>
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		<title>By: zorro</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-871824</link>
		<dc:creator>zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Academic welfare is not working.  Lazy, good for nothing, lying elitist &quot;professors&quot; will do and write anything to stay on that welfare gravy train.  I say end academic welfare as it exist today.  Who knows what other &quot;settled science&quot; (salt intake?) is just flat out wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Academic welfare is not working.  Lazy, good for nothing, lying elitist &#8220;professors&#8221; will do and write anything to stay on that welfare gravy train.  I say end academic welfare as it exist today.  Who knows what other &#8220;settled science&#8221; (salt intake?) is just flat out wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: jamesgreenidge</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-871823</link>
		<dc:creator>jamesgreenidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt; On January 15th, 2010 at 2:53 pm, rambler said:&lt;/strong&gt;

Science should never be driven by political agendas, since it skews the results. Science is about the truth, not manipulation. Mann should be in trouble. His failure to release methodology was a clear indication that he was hiding something.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I can&#039;t even begin to say how much I disdain anyone corrupting science and fact. This is worst than bank robbery or Wall Street scams because these &quot;eco&quot; bastards were out to willfully steer the economic coursesf whole nations for their green &quot;beliefs.&quot; Throw them in jail for fifty years. You&#039;d expect no less from someone who&#039;d swindle you out of a home.

James Greenidge
Queen NY

P.S. 

Saw you on Glenn Beck today MM and the Freudian slip(?): &quot;Malkin, Fox News contributor - oh, er, a columnist..&quot; Gotta break out that blond dye, MM!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong> On January 15th, 2010 at 2:53 pm, rambler said:</strong></p>
<p>Science should never be driven by political agendas, since it skews the results. Science is about the truth, not manipulation. Mann should be in trouble. His failure to release methodology was a clear indication that he was hiding something.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t even begin to say how much I disdain anyone corrupting science and fact. This is worst than bank robbery or Wall Street scams because these &#8220;eco&#8221; bastards were out to willfully steer the economic coursesf whole nations for their green &#8220;beliefs.&#8221; Throw them in jail for fifty years. You&#8217;d expect no less from someone who&#8217;d swindle you out of a home.</p>
<p>James Greenidge<br />
Queen NY</p>
<p>P.S. </p>
<p>Saw you on Glenn Beck today MM and the Freudian slip(?): &#8220;Malkin, Fox News contributor &#8211; oh, er, a columnist..&#8221; Gotta break out that blond dye, MM!!</p>
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		<title>By: RedDog</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-871780</link>
		<dc:creator>RedDog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jail time baby. This could lead to putting Gore and other Dems in the can for good. Crooks all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jail time baby. This could lead to putting Gore and other Dems in the can for good. Crooks all.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-871750</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errah isn&#039;t this the same guy who found an ancient snowshoe in the Sahara?</description>
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		<title>By: swede</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/15/climategate-update-all-about-the-mann/comment-page-1/#comment-871739</link>
		<dc:creator>swede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; pecze said: 
This whole mess makes me embarrassed to be a Penn State grad.

Thank God for Joe Paterno, however.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You have nothing to be embarrassed about. At least Penn State is investigating this fraud. When most of us think of Penn State we think of Paqterno, not Mann. You&#039;re good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> pecze said:<br />
This whole mess makes me embarrassed to be a Penn State grad.</p>
<p>Thank God for Joe Paterno, however.</p></blockquote>
<p>You have nothing to be embarrassed about. At least Penn State is investigating this fraud. When most of us think of Penn State we think of Paqterno, not Mann. You&#8217;re good.</p>
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