Democrat Sen. Jim Webb on gov’t health care takeover: Whoa, Nelly!

By Michelle Malkin  •  January 19, 2010 10:23 PM

Yes, some Democrats are finally seeing the writing on the wall. Or are finally working up the guts to back off shoving Demcare down their constituents’ throats.

Enlightenment:

Calling the election an referendum on the “openness and integrity of our government process,” Webb wrote in a statement: “It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated.”

House Democrats are sounding the same note:

“The only way to go forward is to take a step back. If there isn’t any recognition that we got the message and we are trying to recalibrate and do things differently, we are not only going to risk looking ignorant but arrogant,” said Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), one of the leading advocates for health reform in the House.

“I don’t think it would be the worst thing to take a step back and say we are going to pivot to do a jobs thing” and include elements of health care reform in it, he said.

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  1. #1
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:24 pm, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    Et tu brute

  2. #2
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:25 pm, DerKrieger said:

    and include elements of health care reform in it, he said.

    Beware! Weiner is a “progressive”. They will work to sneak this in piece by piece.

  3. #3
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:26 pm, Leatherneck said:

    There are some older Dems out there that come from an American first family.

    My Father is one.

  4. #4
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:28 pm, verogolfer said:

    Yes. Webb is one of the better Democrats. Glad he spoke up.

  5. #5
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:29 pm, pubscout said:

    Duh. Ya think, Jim?

  6. #6
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:30 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    “I don’t think it would be the worst thing to take a step back and say we are going to pivot to do a jobs thing” and include elements of health care reform in it, he said.

    Having failed to impose government control of every aspect of our lives by cramming down several Trojan Horses down our throats, they are now going to “pivot” (morph) their strategy into a new Trojan Horse wearing a “jobs” mask.

  7. #7
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:31 pm, jangar said:

    Proof that democrats are perpetual scam artists. They serve themselves, and that’s about it.

  8. #8
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:32 pm, behiker said:

    That didn’t take long.

  9. #9
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:33 pm, jangar said:

    Having failed to impose government control of every aspect of our lives by cramming down several Trojan Horses down our throats,

    …or tainted Tylenol, the kind compromised with cyanide.

  10. #10
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:36 pm, AmericaFirst said:

    NEVER TRUST A DEMOCRAT!!! They will stab you in the back. There is NO such thing as a blue dog Democrat, like Webb. He voted to bankrupt our country and voted to hide legislation from the American people. Jim Webb and his blue dog caucus can shove those words up their flea ridden ***

  11. #11
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:37 pm, graysonret said:

    Webb wrote in a statement: “It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders

    Boy, that must have taken some effort. Did he have his fingers crossed behind his back? I’ll see his actions in the future and ignore his words.

  12. #12
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:39 pm, zorro said:

    Jim Webb on gov’t health care takeover: Whoa, Nelly!

    Miracles do happen.

  13. #13
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:39 pm, Veretax said:

    Hannity was suggesting they suspend all votes on the thing till Brown has been seated, and this other guy no idea who he was kept saying “You can’t stop government….”

  14. #14
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:42 pm, emjem24 said:

    Calling the election an referendum on the “openness and integrity of our government process,” Webb wrote in a statement: “It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated.”

    This guy is such a fake, fair weather politician who should never have been elected, let alone grace the “hallowed halls” of Washington. If the original inhabitant of this senate seat hadn’t had his macacca moment, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. It’s really hard to tell what this guy is loyal to… he was a Dem, then a Repub, then a Dem…. will he do a switch when the tides have turned like Specter?

    Having lived in VA, I’ve seen how the electorate soaked up this guy’s worthless platitudes to get their vote. Webb is only serving himself here so that he can save his skin. Too bad there are a lot of Virginians (especially in Northern Virgina) who aren’t sophisticated enough to see through this guy’s act.

    Webb doesn’t give a flip about his constituents…. just his pathetic, political career.

  15. #15
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:42 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I always loves this quote,

    I have always said, you can get more with a kind word and a 2 x 4 than you can get with a kind word.

    Remember the only reason Webb is saying this is beccause he is doing it at the point of a political bayonet. When he thought he did not have to he said NOTHING!

    Not one of the Senate Democrats did; not one. NONE OF THEM DID THE RIGHT THING.

    Webb’s comments mean nothing to me. His past actions do.

  16. #16
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:43 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:42 pm, emjem24 said:

    Well said.

  17. #17
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:43 pm, nativeaz08 said:

    What do you expect? THEIR JOBS ARE ON THE LINE!

  18. #18
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:45 pm, nativeaz08 said:

    Oh, and I still say, VOTE THEM ALL OUT!

  19. #19
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:47 pm, JT said:

    He also sat back when we Tea Party peeps were called extremists and Nazi’s, just like all the other Blue Dogs. Tar and feather all the bastards.

  20. #20
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:48 pm, JT said:

    I’m not letting up. Scott Brown has not even come close to the pound of flesh I’m after.

  21. #21
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:49 pm, concretebob said:

    Doesn’t matter to me what he says at this point. As a citizen of the Commonwealth and a member of United Conservatives of Virginia, I’m going to work to replace him. He can’t be trusted.

  22. #22
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:49 pm, Hadenough said:

    All democrats should be ignored and considered future felons.

  23. #23
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:49 pm, Zippy_Slug said:

    Obama’s Legacy: Waking up America to the goals of liberalism/progressivism/Marxism/communism.

    Who’s next? We’re not done!

    Thank you.

  24. #24
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:51 pm, Hangfire said:

    I’ll have my faith in government restored AFTER my hair turns dark and grows back on top.

  25. #25
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:52 pm, jangar said:

    Time to take back America from the deadly grip of liberal progressives. We’ve still got 2 more election cycles before a reasonable cleansing can happen, so don’t party yet.

  26. #26
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:53 pm, Hangfire said:

    As I stated earlier in this wonderful evening,

    “Mr. Obama, tear down this wall.”

  27. #27
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:53 pm, granite said:

    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:42 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Remember the only reason Webb is saying this is beccause he is doing it at the point of a political bayonet. When he thought he did not have to he said NOTHING!

    Not one of the Senate Democrats did; not one. NONE OF THEM DID THE RIGHT THING.

    Webb’s comments mean nothing to me. His past actions do.

    Exactly.

    As I said on a thread yesterday, these moderate democratssocialists – AKA unicorns – by having misgivings/second thoughts now, are merely telling us that they didn’t enjoy it when they were whoring out their votes.

  28. #28
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:56 pm, jangar said:

    Obama’s Legacy: Waking up America to the goals of liberalism/progressivism/Marxism/communism.

    Ain’t that the TRUTH!!!

    And I might add, the poison of black liberation theology.

  29. #29
    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:57 pm, d1carter said:

    It is a political earthquake in MA, felt around the country.

  30. #30
    On January 19th, 2010 at 11:03 pm, granite said:

    On January 19th, 2010 at 10:52 pm, jangar said:

    Time to take back America from the deadly grip of liberal progressives. We’ve still got 2 more election cycles before a reasonable cleansing can happen, so don’t party yet.

    Agreed.

    Also as I said recently…to paraphrase Churchill: This is not the end; it is not even the beginning of the end; but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

  31. #31
    On January 19th, 2010 at 11:14 pm, palani said:

    Yet there are a shocking number of liberal Dims out there insisting that the losses in Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts are the consequence of Obama not going far enough in pursuit of his radical, destructive agenda. Earlier today, Olbermann, Mathews, and Maddow were all lamenting that the Dims only salvation will come by ramming through healthcare “reform”, otherwise they will face certain defeat next November. Yesterday, the same sentiment was repeated by Katrina vanden Heuvel on ABC’s This Week. And, of course, Bill Clinton now believes that his party’s rout in 1994 was the result of its not passing a healthcare bill!

  32. #32
    On January 19th, 2010 at 11:20 pm, jangar said:

    palani said:
    Bill Clinton now believes that his party’s rout in 1994 was the result of its not passing a healthcare bill!

    They’re not that ignorant. If anything, they’re guilty of not passing crap, disguised as a health care bill, quick enough before the people caught on to their shennanigans.

  33. #33
    On January 19th, 2010 at 11:25 pm, jsr said:

    All this means is the Dems will go back to growing government incrementally instead of in huge leaps like the past year. Socialists never change their objective, just tactics. They are going to moderate their message, hope Americans calm down and then will resume their work of creating their utopia on earth. They will never change no matter how badly they are beaten in an election so constant vigilance is required to thwart their schemes.

  34. #34
    On January 19th, 2010 at 11:50 pm, jamesgreenidge said:

    On January 19th, 2010 at 11:25 pm, jsr said:
    All this means is the Dems will go back to growing government incrementally instead of in huge leaps like the past year. Socialists never change their objective, just tactics. They are going to moderate their message, hope Americans calm down and then will resume their work of creating their utopia on earth. They will never change no matter how badly they are beaten in an election so constant vigilance is required to thwart their schemes.

    Something to keep all of us humble and vigilant and NEVER forget. Libs and Dems need only one chance to hook America into becoming a welfare state of dependents who’ll never switch back. We barely dodged a bullet tonite,

    James Greenidge
    Queens NY

  35. #35
    On January 19th, 2010 at 11:53 pm, vatodio said:

    /sarc on

    Come on Nancy / Reid / Obama,

    You don’t abandon the Health care reforms just because Nazi Boston TEABEGGERS throw tantrums? What’s going to happen to those 47 million uninsured Americans? Are you gonna let thousands of uninsured to die every day?

    Window of opportunity is getting smaller and many more things remain on the plate before the 2010 election:

    CRAP-N-TAX
    Unionizing Walmart,
    No TEACHERs-left-behind act,…

    When the going gets tough, the brave Libs are suppossed to push harder!

    /sarc off

  36. #36
    On January 19th, 2010 at 11:56 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    If there isn’t any recognition that we got the message and we are trying to recalibrate and do things differently, we are not only going to risk looking ignorant but arrogant,” said Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.),

    Risk? BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Oh, Tony, you left “risk” in your rearview mirror so, so, so long ago.

  37. #37
    On January 19th, 2010 at 11:57 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Although I am not a resident of Va., I wrote Sen.Webb asking him if pushing a program on others he would reject for himself was consistent with Marine Corps values. I received nothing in return. He does not impress me as someone I could trust. So disappointing to me personally.

  38. #38
    On January 20th, 2010 at 2:33 am, blues said:

    Hey Democraps-I’ve got something you can sit and pivot on,fumducks.

  39. #39
    On January 20th, 2010 at 3:33 am, Jason L. said:

    Of course, now they’ll come around and admit that the “Health Care Bill” is a failure, that it needs to be looked at again, and that the American People are unhapy. OF COURSE!!!! The Democrats LOST this election because of precisely their stance on their Health Care Issue. Yes, Obama-bots — even the “honorable” Jim Webb — have suddenly “seen da light”. I still believe it is way, waaaaaaay too late to save Democrat majorities in either house. This election is a micro-chasm of the American People, and if the Democrats think that they will ram this through before Senator Brown is seated (and you know? I ALMOST hope that they do: that would be the death knell for the Democrat party), and not take even more heat, let them think agian (of course, they’ve doen things just as follish and thought they’d survive)…

  40. #40
    On January 20th, 2010 at 8:20 am, cheapseat said:

    webb has zero credibility with me. he can’t have every issue cut both ways. he seems a dino to me, but i’m not from virginia, so i don’t get to voice my opinion other than online.

  41. #41
    On January 20th, 2010 at 9:31 am, RedDog said:

    “… we are going to pivot to do a jobs thing”

    mmmmmmm yeah. That jobs thingy. Something about an economy wrecked by Democrat policy and bureaucracy. Yeah, a jobs thingy would do the trick and we could keep our jobs.

    Sorry socialistas, even the slowest Americans are on to you.

    “Che is dead. Get over it.”

  42. #42
    On January 20th, 2010 at 10:57 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Jim Webb is a major putz and is certainly NOT “one of the better Democrats” as someone said a few posts back!

    He has voted with the leftist Senate “leadership” even while knowing the vast majority of Virginians don’t want this Marxist agenda.

    It should be the goal of Virginians to put Jim Webb out of work in November! Then we can start encouraging Mark Warner to seek other employment at the earliest opportunity.

    Webb is a perverted, self-serving, political hack and he needs to be sent to the unemployment office!

  43. #43
    On January 20th, 2010 at 12:05 pm, T-Bone said:

    Webb carries a heavy burden of hate and confusion. Liberal policies only heighten his condition.

  44. #44
    On January 20th, 2010 at 1:32 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    At least Tom Davis is out of office and we don’t have to listen to him telling us the GOP should be more like the Democrats. Of course he is probably saying it and probably believes it. It just shows how out of touch the idiot “stars” of the GOP are…

  45. #45
    On January 21st, 2010 at 1:25 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    Too late Jimbo, you already voted FOR this mostrosity of a “reform” bill. You have written to me saying you support creating a “new path to citizenship” for those who ignored the existing one. Next election, you will find out what Virginians think of how you have “represented” us.

    You Are Done, Sir!

  46. #46
    On January 21st, 2010 at 2:07 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    This just arrived from Senator Webb today. I contacted him weeks ago. I find the timing interesting.

    It is the usual babble. Webb still does not get it. And, even worse, he thinks he is fooling us…

    January 21, 2010

    Mr. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    XXXXXXXXXXX, VA XXXXX

    Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXXX:

    Thank you for contacting my office regarding health care reform. I appreciate your taking the time to share your views.

    I voted in favor of health care reform legislation in the Senate. Despite my disappointment with some provisions in the bill, as well as the process under which it was considered, the final package presented to the Senate reflects many improvements that take into consideration the concerns that I and others brought forward during the debate.

    Our country needs health care reform. Most importantly, the status quo of our present system, which is damaging our national economy at many levels, is unacceptable. Spiraling costs for health care have placed our biggest industries at a severe competitive disadvantage worldwide, and have become unsustainable for many small businesses. In addition, the billions of dollars spent on medical care for the uninsured is a burden borne not only by government at all levels, but also by tens of millions of others through higher taxes and insurance rates.

    I have stated on several occasions my concerns that the Obama administration should have begun the health care process with a clear, detailed proposal, from which legislation could then be put into place. Instead, the legislation is the product of five separate congressional committees, three in the House and two in the Senate. I and my staff have carefully worked through thousands of pages of sometimes contradictory information, and have done our best to bring focus to the debate and clarity to the final product.

    As the debate moved forward in the Senate, I repeatedly took a number of difficult votes, often breaking with my party, in order to strengthen the bill. The bill passed by the Senate addresses a number of the most troubling concerns. The new language demands greater accountability from health insurers. It reins in excessive overhead costs that go strictly to administration instead of patient care. It immediately makes available a health care tax credit for small businesses. It forces competition through a multi-state government-administered insurance option. It immediately bans ‘pre-existing conditions’ exclusions for children. It incorporates a measure that I sponsored to reward quality, instead of quantity, of Medicare services offered to patients.

    The independent Congressional Budget Office now estimates that the reforms contained in this legislation will lower the federal budget deficit by $133 billion over the next ten years, and by more than $1 trillion over the decade following.

    Now that two different pieces of legislation have successfully emerged in each house of Congress, I intend to examine closely the version produced at the next stage of the legislative process. Significant deviations from the core principles I insisted upon in the Senate compromise will lead me to withhold my support.

    As the Senate continues to debate health care reform, please be assured that your views will be very helpful to me and my staff. I hope that you will continue to share your thoughts with us in the years ahead.

    Thank you again for your interest in this important matter.

    Sincerely,

    Jim Webb
    United States Senator

    JW:kw

  47. #47
    On January 21st, 2010 at 4:33 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    If there isn’t any recognition that we got the message and we are trying to recalibrate and do things differently, we are not only going to risk looking ignorant but arrogant,” said Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.),
    EGADS! Look Mr. Weeeener (Weiner) – we already think all of you are ignorant and arrogant. Jeez, what world do you live in? Obviously, not ours.
    Take our Country back – NO INCUMBENTS!

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