Run, Mike Pence, run!

I want this to happen, don’t you?
Don’t worry about the support of the NRSC or Beltway Republicans. The money will come, Rep. Pence — from grass-roots conservatives across the country who have appreciated your stalwart, unwavering, unapologetic, explicit, and proven commitment to the Constitution and conservative principles.
In the wake of winning MA, GOPers are looking to put 1 more state in play if they can convince House GOP Conference chair Mike Pence to run against Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN).
Pence and his aides will meet with top staffers at the NRSC tomorrow, several sources tell Hotline OnCall, where they will discuss a possible bid. The NRSC has polled IN, and their survey shows Pence in a competitive position, though he trails Bayh in initial matchups.
GOPers have failed to recruit a top-tier challenger against the popular 2-term incumbent, thanks largely to Bayh’s bankroll. He had $12.7M in the bank as of Sept. 30, and GOPers expect he would be able to raise many more millions before Election Day.
But Pence has a base, especially as the number 3 GOPer in the House, and top Senate strategists believe he would be able to raise the money to compete with Bayh. He also has the national ambition, and Senate strategists plan to point out those ambitions are difficult to achieve without a Senate seat.
Yet Pence’s team is acutely aware of the financial challenge such a race would pose, and he had just $462K CoH at the end of the 3rd quarter. Pence’s decision will rest heavily on whether the NRSC would make a financial commitment to help make up the early difference, a source close to Pence said. The source also said Pence is unlikely to turn down the offer soon, indicating he is taking the notion seriously.
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McCain a sissy? Some keyboard commando thinks naval officer who was tortured for years as a POW and still fights for what he believes in in his 70s is a sissy. I may disagree with McCain on an issue or two but he’s a MAN.
Would depend on the contemporary circumstances, no? During a crisis like this where a uber-liberal majority is threatening the very fabric of the constitution, seems it should be a no brainer yes. At a time when there is a conservative majority in place, not so much.
I know! I didn’t want to say anything because people might think I’m crazy. My friend Alan agrees also. He lives in my shirt pocket and tells me to light fires.
I cannot and will not support anyone that supports any type of amnesty, it does not matter what you call it. Amnesty is too important of an issue to fall back on “no candidate is perfect” and elect someone that will go along ways to destroying our country.
It is a shame too, I do think for the most part he is a good solid conservative, but where does he get his sympathy for illegals…somethings not right there.
Here’s a rather complete listing of Pence’s positions, issue-by-issue:
http://www.ontheissues.org/in/Mike_Pence.htm
I’ve generally liked Pence as far as the things he says are concerned, but this page will be very telling. I will be reading it very closely, and so should you.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
On January 20th, 2010 at 3:09 pm,
This is what I have been trying to say, but you said it so much better! Abortion should NOT be a Federal issue and therefore, a U.S. Senator should not be involved in abortion issues in DC. Abortion should be decided BY THE PEOPLE in each state. Therefore, the candidate’s stance on abortion should be irrelevant if he is running for U.S. Senator. Immigration, on the other hand, is a Federal issue and the Senator’s stance should be in sync with yours before you vote for him. That is what I meant. Thanks, AmericanPatriot!
Abortion is a federal issue whether anyone thinks it should be or not; Roe v. Wade made it so. Senators vote on judges and make abortion related policy for the armed forces, determine subsidies for Planned Parenthood and make many, many other decisions on the issue so it is not irrelevant how a senatorial candidate sees the issue. Personally, I think it SHOULD be a federal issue because I think the federal government has a duty to protect a child from the gross denial of civil rights by being outright murdered. The right to life is the first right mentioned in our founding documents.
Abortion is just wrong no matter how one slices it. State or Federal. If a country as a whole cannot adopt laws supporting life and liberty to all, how dare we have the audacity to say God bless America?
Furthermore, why should a benevolent God bless any people who show no respect for His devine creation and those who are the least of these…the unborn children?
Reviewing Pence’s record based on support for the Constitution, we’re talking 66%. However, there is a huge advantage with Pence in that there were about 175 positions that I used to come up with that rating.
If the people of this country elect Mike Pence, they will not be able to say they didn’t know.
That is a good thing.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
happyscrapper said:
the United States Declaration of Independence said:
You better believe it is a federal issue.
Pence supports a constitutional amendment declaring a fetus a human being. That logic, which I agree with, would provide that fetus with all of the rights the more mature of us enjoy, including the right to not be deprived of life without due process of law.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
I have a feeling HS may have meant that it should never have been brought before the courts the way it was. This woman was being denied an abortion under state law, which is consistent with the Declaration and The Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution.
It should not be a federal issue because it is, as an issue, SETTLED (or should already be).
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
I wouldn’t call him a sissy, but the bill he and Russ Feingold put together to repeal the First Amendment is definitely at least close to an act of treason.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
It should not be. But Rove v Wade made it a federal issue. And overturning Roe will take action by the US Senate, so it matters what Senators think.
I know Alan!
His summer condo is part of my dog’s collar, and he likes potato pancakes!
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
RWR, since you use the word ‘treason” in regard to John McCain I guess I can assume you’ve given your country far greater service than he has. I thank you for whatever these deeds must have been to elevate you so high that you can dismiss McCain as unpatiotic.
So for you, McCain’s service in the military (which was honorable) can never be dishonored by his own treasonous act(s) that occurred after his honorable service?
The only difference between that and Benedict Arnold is that Arnold was still in the military when he committed his treason!
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
anyone not thinking amnesty or illegal immigration isn’t an extremely serious problem should go to USA Numbers.
Worried about the democratic party controlling congress, who do you think those law breaking illegals will vote for in the future after getting their greencards, citizenship and their families start moving to the U.S.A.? You can write the Republicans off for decades if not for every if amnesty happens…oh and say good bye to America as we know it.
God Bless this Great Country
Just saw Palin on FOX campaigning for guess who…yep, her running mate in ’08, McAmnesty. Only time will tell for me, but if she is in anyway is supporting amnesty of any kind I will be done with her, period. As mentioned above she is not presidential material, I have my own questions about her lately.
McShame is no sissy, but he is a RINO and fights the right as often as he does the left. I think Mr. McCain caught a server case of Washintonitus…it’s time for him to retire, no, it was his time years ago.
I think McCain is a perfect example of what keeps these people in office for so many years…it’s not how they vote it’s the letter after their name, along with name recognition. Most voters never know much about the voting record of the people they vote for. Hopefully talk radio, blogs like MM more people will be more knowledgeable voters in the future.
I agree DeMint, Inhofe, Sessions, Coburn would all be good presidential candidates, those men are all solid conservatives with the countries best interest at heart.
just proposing Amnesty is treasonous in my view. ramming it down good citizens’ throats and going out of their way to insult those citizens when they made urgently valid points against this insanity of legitimizing the invasion of our nation, is totally unforgivable and thus this hard-core conservative will always oppose lowlifes like McVain and GWB for how they did this to us. they don’t give a rat’s ass about our invaded cities and states and to them illegal aliens are more important than citizens. long ago that kind of deliberate killing of one’s own nation (or just the attempt) used to be enough to get one hanged for treason.
I like what I see – a lot.
If Sarah Palin campaigns for Juan McShamnesty she will be committing political suicide. Nothing would be more pleasing to RINOs.
stoptheinvasion, I just read your comment at #122. I agree wholeheartedly.
I’m not sure whether this pro-life, home-schooling, military veteran, Reagan conservative should be more worried about being tossed in a gulag by the left or hung for “treason” by right wing kooks for my impurities. I plan on defending myself from either.
So would it have been the firing squad for Reagan, or a good old fashioned hanging?
I agree with your observations, ThackerAgency, for now I will have a wait and see on Palin…But she will be in quite a pickle, if McCain has serious primary competition, and she stills supports McCain.
She needs to go to a couple of fund-raisers (to pay her political debt to McCain), and then leave Arizona ASAP.
The only other thing I’d throw out tonight is that I think what will make or break McCain is how hard Obama pushes Immigration Reform. The harder Obama/Dems push it the more Johnny is in trouble…
I hope you are not suggesting that there are people on this blog who are kooks for mentioning the word “treason”! Some of the things our politicians are doing today would have been termed “treasonous” in years past, including anything that is directly in opposition to the Constitution. The problem is that the Constitution is being slowly re-written right before our very eyes and no one seems to be noticing. And that, in my opinion, is treason. But don’t worry, valleygreaser, I don’t own a gun and you don’t have to worry about defending yourself against me!
Some of the others here…I’m not so sure!
Sorry to dash your hopes but that’s exactly what I meant. People that classify George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, and John McCain as treasonous because of their immigration views are outright kooks.
PALIN 2012
OK, so McCain isn’t treasonous. He’s just been going out of his way to destroy everything this country is and turn it into a dysfunctional third world banana republic.
That better?
BINGO!
I’m starting to get a feeling about you, valley. I don’t like the opinion I am forming. But my instincts are usually right on the money. Your manner just suggests that I probably wouldn’t like you much if I knew you in person. Just my opinion and I’m sure you don’t give a crap. But I am usually a very good judge of character. Again, JUST.MY.OPINION. So please don’t rip on me. Just allow me to express my opinion. Thank you. Oh, and by the way, please reference the post that classified Ronald Reagan as a traitor. I would like to see who said that.
By the way…ANYONE who supports rules or laws that allow illegal aliens free reign to come into this country without using the proper way IS a traitor. That is undermining the sovereignty of the United States and turning a blind eye to people who break our laws merely for being here without permission. If someone supports this erosion of the Sovereignty of our great country, I would call that person a traitor. Call me a kook if you want…I surely don’t care, and have been called worse.
LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS RIGHT —
IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.
IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.
IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.
IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.
IF YOU CROSS THE MEXICAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BEATEN, ROBBED, THROWN IN JAIL AND THEN ULTIMATELY DEPORTED.
IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET…
· A JOB,
· A DRIVERS LICENSE,
· SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
· WELFARE,
· FOOD STAMPS,
· CREDIT CARDS,
· SUBSIDIZED RENT
· FREE EDUCATION,
· FREE HEALTH CARE,
· A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON,
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF
PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE,
THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY’S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON’T GET ENOUGH RESPECT AND, IN MANY INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION …
Thanks happyscrapper, for giving this dummy valleygreaser, who can’t face what treason is, a lesson in facts.
valleygreaser – your ignorance, unwillingness to face facts are exactly the problem on this whole issue. McVain and Boosh and all the other Amnesty creeps are just great guys to you huh? apparently you want us invaded more and forever. thanks an F’g lot.
I see the chief kook calls me a dummy. LOL. By the way, I didn’t even state my view on immigration; just objected to war hero McCain being called a traitor because of his. Obviously that makes me a traitor too. I imagine the gallows would be a busy place if stoptheinvasion had his way. Really, is there any difference in this kind of guy and William Ayers? Hopefully, Brown’s election is just the beginning of restoring control of the country to patriotic conservatives and rejecting the hate-filled facism of the left/right axis that wants to try and execute people like GWBush, McCain and anyone else that doesn’t lick their jackboots.
…and McCain is one of those doing it, to be sure!
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
How about for McCain’s knowing and deliberate shredding of the First Amendment?
If that is not treason, I don’t know what is.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Good luck with that.
Your statement is based upon the faulty assumption that Mr. Brown is a conservative, which (despite being less liberal than his opponent in true LOTE fashion) he is not. A huge step in the right direction for Massachusetts, indeed, but not a conservative.
Furthermore, you assume that supporting a traitor on the basis of a spiffy war record is “patriotic”. I will remind you that Benedict Arnold was also a decorated war hero. Would you go as far as to say that he should have been supported in this fashion as well?
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
I think the McCain-Feingold law is an affront to free speech and is unconstitutional. Apparently the Supreme Court agrees with me (thanks GWB for Roberts and Alito). Apparently some people think it’s somehow helpful to the political process. I think they are very, very wrong but I don’t think that it necessarily follows that they are purposefully attempting to destroy the country.
Wow.
As if I’m licking anyone’s jackboots. This coming from a supporter of the candidate who wanted freedom-loving conservatives to just shut up and lick HIS jackboots in the last presidential election. Am I the only one who sees the irony in that?
There is NO left in my positions. I’m not asking for McCain’s head. I’m asking for his office, which I intend to see happen the next time he comes up for re-election.
At that point, you can lick his jack-boots all you want, as if you’ll have to stop.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
OK. So you don’t think McCain knew that before he jumped in and wrote the law?
Treason is not “attempting to destroy the country”. It it a violation of allegiance. When you swear an allegiance to the Constitution and then deliberately work against that same Constitution, you commit treason. What exactly do you then call it when McCain works like a dog FOR YEARS to repeal the First Amendment?
I happen to call it treason.
You can call it what you want.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
McCain proposed a piece of legislation which was passed by congress and signed into law. That hardly makes him Benedict Arnold, no matter whether the law was lousy or not. I stand by my contention that anyone who thinks John McCain is a traitor is, themselves, a kook.
Adios for the time being. I’m tired of arguing with strangers about their views miles out of the mainstream. I have more fruitful ways to spend my time.
I find this no consolation.
And while we’re calling kooks, I’ll call you one just for good measure, you kook.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Thank you, valleygreaser, for validating my opinion of you. Most of us aren’t “strangers” here, but people with the same values and hopes. And as for “miles out of the mainstream”, who are you talking about? 95% of us are on the same page with our conservative values. What is “out of the mainstream” about that? Some of us disagree with each other occasionally and the posts get heated. But we are not strangers. Most of us have become friends. Apparently, you haven’t been here long enough to “get” that. I hope you will lose the attitude and start a less rude dialogue. We respond to that so much better. We can disagree without being totally disagreeable.
Ah. The same argument used by every single MODERATE conservative out there (aka RINO, which is why he hates the term so much). Only this guy is moderate about everything except abortion. Which I would argue is out of the mainstream.
thanks for the link…haven’t read anything in depth yet, but a lot of his positions were 4 to 7 years ago, people change remember, Reagan was a democrat before seeing the light.
well said…blood pressure went up after reading how the ILLEGAL ALIENS come to our country and act as if we owe them something.
I have a hard time deciding who to blame the most, the liberal politicians that allow this crap to go on or the illegals themselves.
I personally think Reagan was wrong for agreeing to allowing the 2 mllion immigrants into the country, it was the liberal, lazy, incompetent law enforcement people that let the 12 plus million in that is killing us off literally and finacially now.
Almost. There’s one thing you left out: That same Mexican goverment that would arrest, beat, jail, and deport you for illegally entering Mexico demands that we provide all those things and more to Mexicans who illegally enter our country. They even have their own government officials (like Juan Hernandez) act as advisors to presidential candidates (like John McCain) to make sure not only that all these things happen, but that these illegals remain loyal to Mexico, and that even U.S. citizens of Mexican descent must think “Mexico first”.
But don’t you dare suggest that McCain is in any way disloyal for supporting that kind of subversion, because don’t you know, only “kooks” could possibly think such a thing.
It wasn’t Reagan who changed, it was the party. In his own words, “I didn’t leave the party. It left me.”
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com