Universal health care-mongers: Let’s ruin California even more!
Progressives in California have a bright idea: Bankrupt the basket-case state even further with single-payer health care:
A key legislative committee in California revived a bill Thursday to create a government-run health care system in the nation’s most populous state, two days after Massachusetts elected a senator who opposes the president’s national health care plan.
The Senate Appropriations Committee released the bill for a vote by the full Senate next week. The legislation had been held over from last year because of the state’s ongoing budget crisis.
Creating a single-payer system would cost California an estimated $210 billion in its first year. That’s roughly double the size of the total state budget, but about what the state and federal government and residents cumulatively spend now on California health care, said Sen. Mark Leno.
Leno, D-San Francisco, introduced the bill after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger twice vetoed similar legislation. The Republican governor negotiated his own $14.7 billion health care reform bill with Democratic leaders two years ago, only to see the measure fail in a Senate committee amid concerns over paying for the measure.
Leno’s bill would create a commission to decide how to pay for the system, at a cost this year of more than $1 million.
Leno said the system could be funded with a payroll tax along with existing state and federal money and increased efficiencies from a state-managed system that eliminates the insurance middleman. Voters would have to approve the commission’s funding plan, he said.
Republicans mocked majority Democrats for reviving the bill as health care reform flounders in Washington, and California struggles with a new $20 billion deficit.
Old socialist habits die hard.
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Is insanity contagious?
The current CA budget is “state-managed”, look how “efficient” that’s been
Yes, I know you can get if from your kids. I’m talking about government insanity.
There are times when I feel that the term limit restrictions approved by the California voters were rather strict (three 2 year Assembly terms, two 4 year Senate terms). However, in the case of Mark Leno, I feel very grateful that he will eventually get termed out.
Iceberg, right ahead!
Unfortunately for California taxpayers, the Assembly lives in a fantasy world. If this ever is passed, expect more people to leave. Imagine a “reverse border patrol” keeping people in, rather than out.
Are our legislators living in a bubble up there in Sacramento?
I’m ready to post the often used line from Aliens….
“I say we take off, and nuke the site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”
There must be something toxic in the water, that fries brain cells, in CA and in dc for all the stupid new laws they want to pass! With the way CA is going, there won’t be any business left there but hollywood actors.
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Is this really the same state that gave us Ronald Reagan?
What happened?
Jerry Brown.
I am at this moment listening to The One ranting to a crowd in Ohio about how we have an obligation to pass ObamaCare. Now that we are back to the “Gangs of McCain” Congress, I’m sure bipartisanship is back. Republicans like bribes too.
I used to think that being in the U.S. Navy was the biggest departure from reality.
Now I’m afraid it is the Hawaii Legislature, followed by a close second, the California Legislature.
Same problems, different scale, and different idiots.
(Cough, cough, cough) Uhhh, suuuuuuuurrre it can…
Hell care pays for illegals and those that leach on the government teat by taking even more money from the productive.
There is a reason a U-Haul from California to Texas costs about 3 times what a U-Haul from Texas to California costs…
Jerry Brown is the acting governor of California today.
Apparently, Arnie loses his magic powers across state lines, and Maldonado, the Olympia Snowe of the West, hasn’t been confirmed as the Lite Governor.
Quick, pass the bill and rush it to Jerry’s desk…
UGH!! WHY do they keep saying crap like this? If there are inefficiencies / waste / fraud / etc., just FIX THEM! Then, and ONLY then, should they even be allowed to begin discussing other proposals. (Don’t worry… It’ll never happen.)
Errah they’ll have to get in line. They recently passed a statewide “Green Building Code” so they can expedite the mass extinction of businesses and growth in their state. They won’t be able to get building permits for all the Green unemployment offices they’re going to have to build not to mention the need for new socialized healthcare clinics. The people of Haiti are laughing at California!
If you live in CA, there is a movement to introduce a ballot measure next November declaring the full-time legislature experiment as having failed and to restore the part-time legislature. You can register here to print-out a petition. I urge everyone in CA to sign it and get as many of your friends and family to also sign. While you’re at it, send the RINOs a message by re-registering to unaffiliated independent.
This in an in-your-face act of defiance by the California Dems against the new political reality. Libs are proud of their derangement and are in constant competition with each other to show it off.
Teddy
Did Old Scratch let you watch election returns Tuesday night on MSLSD down in the sauna?
Here in the People’s Republic of Hawaii, the state Legislature just enacted a law that requires ALL new-construction housing and commercial buildings to have solar hot-water.
Errah at first I thought this was Jay Leno’s monologue and laughed, then I saw it was State Sen Mark Leno’s comments and really laughed!
Errah didn’t see the returns till the next morning. Tip and I were out drinking till all hours of the morning after a full day of voting!
Hangfire
Vermont is pretty lefty. Their Senator is declared socialist (all Dems are socialist, but most pretend they aren’t), Howard Dean and Ben and Jerry’s are there.
We need to write letters and encourage Vermont to demand only solar heated water in all new buildings.
In otherwords, all the money that is spent privately for health insurance will be collected by the state to run this monstrosity.
Here is a question, what happens when the people of CA dont have helath insurance because the state can’t pay the bill? They better not even think about coming knocking on any other states door for a handout.
What would be a great practical joke is for someone to go “cover-up” all the solar panels on all the government buildings and houses owned by government officials….
Not to worry. The Obama administration will be there to bail California out from their irresponsible, socialist, spending habits. Remember. They’re too big to fail.
Fellow Catholics and anyone else who respects human life and believes the founders knew what they were doing.
Sort of OT.
But today is a day of penance, prayer and fasting for all American Catholics.
This is the anniversary of the day the Supreme Court find a super-secret right, apparently written into the US Constitution, that guaranteed the right to kill inconvenient unborn babies.
Obama, of course, believes this right extends to babies born alive during botched abortions.
About 50 million citizens aren’t with us today.
Hitler admirer, and racist eugenecist Margaret Sanger would be so proud, if she weren’t down with Adolf, Josef, Pol Pot and the boys.
Awww, sh!t.
Is there any other way out?
The California legislature is a BIG reason that the U.S. military is practically gone from the state.
NAS Alameda closed, Treasure Island, Fort Ord, March A.F.B., Hunter’s Point Naval Station, NAS Moffett, Long Beach Shipyard, Mare Island Shipyard, just to name a few.
You can’t even do touch-up paint on your ship without entering a dry-dock for fear of multi-million dollar fines.
Errah I just saw ole Margret in the hallway at lunch. She was talking to Gasey and Dahlmer and I didn’t want to disturb them.
Other than walking (which will be taxed next) I doubt it.
Errah
Egg McMagnum??!!
I think it’s very dumb, but it is a state’s right. This is how these programs are supposed to be run – by the individual states.
I am sitting here trying to decide what to do with my flu-infected carcass today. PSRK unemployment is reported at 12.4%. I’m not counted because I am a displaced homemaker now. I am sure there are more like me and those who have just given up on working for a while. I’m sure the UR is really around 25-30% here. My 25 y.o. son gave up after going to open call job interviews and seeing 500-600 people come to apply for 1-2 jobs. He’s joining the Navy this year. Yeah, for him.
I thought of moving to Dallas. There are jobs, they like ladies that “carry” there But J.R. is still dead. Oh yeah, that’s a good thing, huh?
I also thought of Alaska, but the Palin left.
MA needs to pound a few more Libs into LibTard Land before I’d consider that.
I thought of CO, but the inmates are running the asylum there, too.
Eh, more decongestants and green tea, please. I think I need to puke again.
unbelievable. Their rationale is ‘well we all pay that much cumulatively anyway’.
So their solution is instead of using insurance companies that has as a JOB managed risk (and aren’t bankrupt like California), they want you to give the government all the money you would otherwise give to private enterprise.
So next budget crisis, the government contemplates not only closing prisons, state parks, schools, but now they want to be able to close the hospitals when the state runs out of money.
The government is not an instrument for micromanaging populations. The government is an instrument to keep us safe from crime and protect our borders. PERIOD.
The sad thing is that people don’t really understand WHY universal health care is a bad idea.
If they were a horse, they’d be taken out behind the barn and shot!
Mr. Ed: Thanks Wiiillllbuurrr!.
seriously though, if they think insurance companies are making too much money, tax 100% of their profits. That way, the state has slaves that are experienced at managing risk.
They don’t want to do that. . . they wouldn’t get as much money by taxing insurance companies 100% of profits as they would denying claims of people on the government plan.
Medicare denies twice as many claims as private insurance. . . and is still going bankrupt.
Errah maybe now Ed Begley Jr will get that rectal Craniotomy that he so desperately needs. Did he divorce his wife and finally marry Bill Nye the science or is he waiting on the outcome of prop 8?
I think this is a good idea. Right now California has excellent medical schools and many good doctors. As soon as this dumb bill is enacted, they will leave this state. I welcome such students and doctors to come to my state. Let Californians pay even higher taxes (90% sounds about right), and they will get all their pay for service care down in Tijuana, Mexico. The only provision I believe the rest of us must insist on is that not one cent is sent over to La La land to bail them out. Then they can go wild with their utopian dreams and nightmares.
90 years of watching EVERY socialist/communist gubmint crumble into despotism/anarchy and finally revolution you would think that any moderately intelligent person would not choose the wonderful THEORY of communism as a real viable governing method. telling people that someone else will pay for them if they just sit on their arse is never a good motivator. and spending opm is way to easy, but getting people to work to make money you can confiscate and spend is a much harder trick. 50% of americans don’t pay income tax, which means 50% pay all the income tax. so michelle, it appears you can’t teach old communists new tricks. they don’t want to see reality either because they are sucking at the gubmint teat, or they are spending opm and LOVE IT.
Oh, and lets see them use this universal care to also pay for quack therapies such as energy and crystal healing. These are already popular there.
Once real estate fully collapses over there I may speculate on some sweet ocean view near Del Mar…of course I’d have to be retired and living on my out of state bank roll.
As Congressman Tom McClintock famously says, only government policy could convince people and business to relocate from lush California to the barren deserts of Nevada.
Do not forget that it was Mark Leno that introduced a bill that forbade any type of company dress code. He was doing this so the cross-dressing men could wear womens clothes and make-up to work.
Think of this: you’re a business owner and you’ve hired a cross-dresser, unknown to you. Instead of a suit and tie which shows that you’re serious about getting your customer’s business, this moron wears his best from his Max Klinger collection and you lose the biggest business opportunity you’ve ever had because the client thinks you’re not serious. You can’t say anything negative about the scum, and…you can’t fire the dirtbag because of the law. Good thing it didn’t pass.
This is the type of stupidity that permeates CA politics. I know, I live in CA. It sucks.
Immigration. California is projected to turn into a majority Hispanic state in just another ten years. (It’s already a minority-white state.) It’s politics are exactly what you’d expect from a Latin-American country, and are a good preview of what will come to pass all acrosss America if we don’t get control of our borders and start deporting illegals.
The social welfare stuff has a lot to do with illegals, but the gay marriage/assault on the family stuff is home grown.
A few contributing factors
here
and here
As in a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you’re talkin’ serious money!!
Anna: When I was little, we found a man. He looked like – like, butchered. The old woman in the village crossed themselves… and whispered crazy things, strange things. “El Diablo cazador de hombres.” Only in the hottest years this happens. And this year, it grows hot. We begin finding our men. We found them sometimes without their skins… and sometimes much, much worse. “El cazador trofeo de los hombres” means the demon who makes trophies of men.
Governor Schwarzenegger:
Come on… Come on! Do it! Do it! Come on. Come on! Kill me! I’m here! Kill me! I’m here! Kill me! Come on! Kill me! I’m here! Come on! Do it now! Kill me!
Errah quit making fun of my almost son in law. lots of typos . . . .
Khamm Ahn . . . Khamm Ahn! Djwu et! Djwu et! Khamm Ahn. Khammm awn! Khjiell mhe! Ajhmmm hyjeer! Khjiell mhe! Ajhmmm hyjeer! Khjiell mhe!
Khamm Ahn! Djwu et najhwyhhh!
Khjiell mhe!
It doesn’t get any more insane that that folks!
They don’t die at all. They simply go into remission. The collectivist ideal’s most pernicious aspect is that no matter how many times it’s tried and fails, just give it a little time and sure as death somebody else will re-label it and try, try again.
These are the legislators who as kids did the following:
Jimmie: I want a new bike
Mom: Jimmie, mommy has had her hours at the store cut back to 20 hours a week.
Jimmie: I want a new bike
Mom: Remember, Daddy broke his arm and can’t work for six weeks.
Jimmie: I WANT a new bike.
Mom: Jimmie, besides since Grandpa died last month and his pension ended, Grandma has to live with us.
Jimmie: I WANT A NEW BIKE!!!!!
They are still as gounded in reality as then.
I don’t care what kind of insane legislation they pass in California, but if you pass it, STAY THERE AND LIVE WITH IT!!! Stop moving to Texas and trying to screw up our lives too!!
Every time I think our legislators in Sacramento have gone as far as they can, they think of something even stupider. The state is reeling financially. They think we the taxpayers are their own, private ATM machine for every harebrained scheme they come up with, and they are driving people out with their incredible irresponsibility, but it never stops.
If I could have sold my house,I’d already be gone. If they push this thing through, I will be gone, house or no house. I can only afford to finance so much of the government, and I will not let these nincompoops manage my health care, too.
“Progressives in California have a bright idea: Bankrupt the
basketCasket-case state even further…”Golden State Grim Reapers. California’s latest progressive political street gang.
I swear liberalism is a disease of the mind. When do they finally figure out that hitting your head against the wall 9 million times eventually hurts?????
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HI HANGFIRE #30–The Hughes company used to build the AMMRAM air-to-air missile in California–25 years ago. Each bird cost about $100K there. It was constant taxing, environmental inspections, fines, labor hassles, etc.
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Hughes moved the operation to Tucson, Az. The cost per missile dropped to $69K as I remember. Over 1000 people lost their jobs in California, and the state lost lots of taxes.
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Kalifornia got greener when the company left. And the company got greener–in money–in Tucson. They changed from the highest cost producer to the lowest cost producer.
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John Bibb
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There are communists infesting the government at all levels. In Ca, the people that can do things, well they just do them. This allows the most absurd communists far more room, and a bigger box, to shout out their marxist goals.
This particular marxist’s problem is that he will need two thirds of the people to vote for massively higher taxes to support this marxist stupidity.
So far, it is at the polls that these kind of ideas fail. Look no farther than last years failed tax increase that was placed on the ballot.
The communist motto must be, “when in doubt, spend. When bankrupt, spend more!”
These people are lunatics!
But I did think Jerry Brown’s ex-girlfriend was kind of cute when I was a kid.
Ronstadt had a great voice too. Did a great concert in 76.
So, I’m wrestling with this…the Land of Fruits and Nuts has the seventh largest economy on the planet, and the highest business and professional tax rate (save NJ and NYC), yet they are $50 Bil in the red and begging for a fed bailout, and now they want to spend $210 Bil/year they don’t have on a system that has been proven to not work.
Okey Dokey then. Knock yourselves out. Just keep your hands OFF. OUR. MONEY.
This is GOOD news for California (I live in Oakland, CA)!! Hopefully it will motivate people in this state to throw out the dems, especially this Mark leno idiot. Had the Dems not done this people may have let them slide, but now we may get support for voting on making the legislature part time with our ballot initiative process. Anything that gives this legislature less days to do harm to the state is an improvement!!
it’s all about staying on offense. leno knows this has no chance. the dims are sweating the smackdown in beantown. as long as they keep shooting the repubs will keep ducking and will be unable to get any of their own offense.
Dr. Savage is correct. Liberalism IS a mental disease.
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They just don’t have that freedom and liberty thing in California.
More like the Mexican commie-socialist thing for them.
California = Fantasy Island
They are completely broke.
They had to use IOU’s to make “payments”
How can they pay for this?
They may as well push through legislation that says everyone can have a unicorn.
Somehow I keep hearing Mickey Rooney saying in that cheerful, upbeat voice of his; “I, know let’s put on a show!”. And then a 90 piece orchestra would play while 6 twelve year olds would start performing in a garage.” “I know, let’s get a single payer”
Re: #62
Freddy, I also make plenty of spelling and grammar mistakes but your use of the word “farther” is incorrect. Farther should be used when describing physical distance, and in your particular sentence you should have used the word “further”.
I always love the “we’ll pay for it with savings we’ll realize from efficiencies” argument. Yes, all of sudden, CA will turn on a dime into a well-oiled and gleaming efficiency machine. If it wasn’t for family, we would leave this wretched state so quickly.
Where is Lex Luthor when we need him?
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California into the ocean NOW!
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Just imagine the possibilities.
Unfortunately the “Nuts” are all over the country, so not a viable option, although the left coast does seem to be the worst of it. “Politicians” regardless of party seem to want to destroy the country for any reason they can think of. Mostly some insane idea called “social justice”, which will destroy the world, IMO, if allowed to continue.
This is what you get with total government control by the democrars, from the governor down. What worries me is that these people will move out of California and screw up other states. Those moving out of California should be treated as immigrants and not allowed to vote until they become US citizens.
BWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
And if there is a $20B deficit, where, exactly, is this “state money?”
Damn, I’m glad I made the decision to beat feet outa there 6 years ago.
On January 22nd, 2010 at 4:42 pm, Flyoverman said:
Little Jimmy possessed each of my siblings and me for about 1 minute of our lives when we were young. That’s about the time my father took to find the appropriate belt/switch for the job. Little Jimmy was never been seen again in our home.
Although he is in his eighties, my Dad could still muster up the strenghth to exorcise Little Jimmy from the p*ssified Cal Legislature. Just say the word and he’s on his way.