McCain-backed GOP Senate candidate Carly Fiorina hearts Jesse Jackson — and radical gender politics
As if California GOP Senate candidate Carly Fiorina’s massive bailout-supporting economic advice for John McCain wasn’t bad enough (reminder from yesterday’s column: “In California, McCain’s PAC supports former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina – a celebrity name with deep pockets of her own, massive media exposure, and a checkered business record. Fiorina served as the economic adviser to McCain, who supported the $700 billion TARP bailout, the $25 billion auto bailout, a $300 billion mortgage bailout, and the first $85 billion AIG bailout.”), now comes the revelation of that she has had a long political love affair with Jesse Jackson.
It’s on tape, via Neil Stevens of RedState: “When Carly Fiorina speaks on the campaign trail here in California, running to be the Republican nominee to unseat Barbara Boxer, she tries to prohibit recording of her speeches. However somebody snuck in an audio recorder to an event yesterday, and these clips seem to show why she would do that. The real, private Carly seems to be a bit different from the public, ‘conservative’ Carly.”
Listen for yourselves as she coos about “the Reverend Jesse Jackson” and panders to gender quota-mongers at a women’s conference held last week:
Philip Klein at the American Spectator has a partial transcript (and be sure to click the link for more instances of Fiorina slobbering over Jackson):
“And I thought about something that the Reverend Jesse Jackson said to me several years ago. He very graciously came to the offices of Hewlett Packard to visit me, because we were doing some work together for his Rainbow Coalition. And he said to me, ‘You know, Carly, every game is better when everybody gets to play.’ And I thought it was such a great way of describing why everything is better when all people, regardless of color or nationality or gender, get to play. Sports are better. Business is better. Politics are better. The world is better when everybody gets to play in things that matter.”
Fiorina continues to cast herself as a “mainstream conservative.” But what exactly is “mainstream” or “conservative” about heaping praise on one of this country’s greediest and unrepentant race hustlers?
The San Jose Mercury News reports:
In a speech that became public Friday, Fiorina fondly recalled the Rev. Jesse Jackson — a controversial figure across the political spectrum but anathema to many on the right — “very graciously” visiting her at HP years ago, when the two worked together to boost diversity among Silicon Valley’s work force.
“I like to remind people that women are not a constituency — women are a majority,” Fiorina said during her Wednesday night speech in Sacramento, hosted by California Women Lead, a nonpartisan group that encourages women to seek public office. “Women are the majority of voters and we will never have a truly representative democracy unless women make up half, at least, of our elected representatives.”
At a time Fiorina is seeking to appeal to conservatives, the most reliable voters in Republican primaries, her remarks could prove costly. Critics on the right, including one of her opponents in the GOP Senate primary, argued that her speech smacked of identity politics and bristled at her ties to Jackson.
“To equate representative democracy with group power is a very dangerous and wrongheaded way of thinking,” said conservative Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, R-Irvine, who is running against Fiorina. “It’s the kind of gender and racial identity politics we fight with the left over, and it’s the kind of thinking that leads to quotas.”
Fiorina’s response?
A spokeswoman for Fiorina, Julie Soderlund, said she had nothing to apologize for. “It goes without saying that as a mainstream conservative, Carly Fiorina strongly disagrees with Jesse Jackson’s political agenda,” Soderlund said. “Her remarks were focused on the importance of women recognizing and seizing opportunities to serve in public office.”
Really? “It goes without saying?” The trust-me-I’m-a-mainstream-conservative card is hard to swallow when Fiorina has such a scant record to back her up.
There’s a disturbingly long and recent collection of Fiorina quotes endorsing Jesse Jackson. Where are the public quotes from Fiorina ever disavowing Jackson for threatening businesses that didn’t capitulate to his racial bullying?
Reminder:
Jackson has repeatedly threatened businesses and corporations, black and white, with boycotts, racially biased criticism, and (implicitly) outright violence, if they refused to enrich him or his organizations. Among the companies: Coca-Cola, Texaco, Viacom, AT&T, Boeing, and Coors. In addition, his organizations have received at least $50 million from the U.S. government.
To site some specifics: Coca-Cola was induced to award a lucrative distributorship to Jackson’s half-brother, Noah, in order to protect itself from racially based attacks by Jackson (Noah is currently serving a life sentence in prison for arranging the contract murder of three business associates); Anheuser-Busch awarded a beer distributorship to Jackson’s sons, Yusef and Jonathan, for the same reason; President Jimmy Carter directed $7 million in government funds to PUSH; President Bill Clinton sent Jackson on a junket to Africa that cost American taxpayers $42 million; Jackson opposed the merger of Viacom and CBS, and attempted to force Viacom to sell the UPN Network to Percy Sutton, in whose Inner City Broadcasting company Jackson held $1.2 million worth of shares; and Jackson opposed the merger of SBC Communications and Ameritech until Ameritech sold its cellular business to a group headed by Chester Davenport, another Jackson friend.
Jackson has received literally millions of dollars for his Citizens Education Fund as part of negotiated settlements with companies he has frivolously accused of racist employment practices.
Jackson radicalized the political agenda of Operation PUSH, moving directly into the political arena to unseat the Chicago delegates of Mayor Richard Daley at the 1972 Democratic National Convention in Miami. He began his international political career later in the decade. In 1979, with President Carter’s blessing, he went to South Africa to speak against the apartheid regime; he made a controversial visit to Palestinian terrorist Yasser Arafat; and in 1983, alleging that President Reagan’s economic policies had severely impacted blacks, he made the first of his two runs for U.S. President. Despite the revelation by the Washington Post that Jackson (in a conversation with his campaign aides) had called Jews “Hymies” and New York City “Hymietown,” he received 3.5 million votes during the primaries, enough to guarantee respect within the Democratic Party and the chance to give a major speech at the 1984 Democratic National Convention.
Fiorina believes she is best suited to offer a contrasting vision to Democrat Sen. Barbara Boxer — a feminist social engineer who panders to self-appointed liberal black leaders and treats minority conservatives who oppose Rainbow Coalition racialism with naked contempt.
She looks and sounds more like an echo, not a choice.
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Thanks for the Schlafly flashback!!
You’re welcome!
Funny, Michelle, very funny …
Yes we seem to be getting a lot of people who want to hijack “mainstream conservative labels” these days.
But one way to look at it, any sane person would be better than that arrogant, ignorant Boxer.
Well, look at it this way, by California Standards, Carly is a Conservative – when you consider California thinks Janeanne Garafalo, Roseanne Barr, Rosie O’Donnell, Whoopi Goldbeg, and Barbara Walters are ‘Centrist’. The whole stupid state need a high colonic to clear their minds.
Rev Jackson’s comments aside (yes, it is better when everone acts on opportunity and is not prevented from doing so) far more instructive is Fiorina’s notion and acceptance that representation should be gender based and conditioned on numbers in the population.
It is about qualified candidates – men, women, people of Asian descent, Gays, Jews, . . . writ large, Americans. Qualified Americans.
Can that candidate do the job? It is the only question that should be asked. Just make the trains run on time, get the garbage picked-up, etc.
I suppose that in California she is “ultra-conservative” just as Brown is a conservative in MA. So if California elects her over Boxer they will indeed get what they deserve. California is doomed either way. It’s too bad too, because I have family and friends in Cali.
As a side note, I worked for Rockwell International when the “Rev” came out to extort and strongarmed Rockwell (and other companies) into making sure there was more blacks promoted into management positions. No qualifications were necessary, just the right color skin. BTW, Rockwell caved. Quotas-ptui!
Tell that to the NBA.
You don’t know what she did to HP. Just like a liberal, she spent a lot of money they didn’t have on things they didn’t need and couldn’t use. It took them quite a while to recover after they fired her.
People like Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Manson, just to name a few. Sorry, RINO but I prefer to pick my own playmates.
I do know what she did to HP. You are correct. She almost drove a great company into the ground. Lots of people I know got laid off. Still based in SoCal they have had to move most of their operations out of state in order to compete.
Someone should ask her if she supports the CA Assembly’s latest boondoggle for single-payer health care.
With Carleton “Carly” Fiorino, it’s all about becoming, not being. Image, not reality. She wants to be part of the McCain GOP country club.
Speaking of McCain, Hayworth has made it official.
Let’s get behind the man and retire McCain for good.
Anyone who would describe a thug shakedown as a “gracious” visit is too stupid to run a lemonade stand, let alone the State of California.
Hayworth Is IN!!!
McCain is on his way OUT!!!
Palin has shot herself in the foot.
DeVore For Senate.
And the Republican Party debauching of America rolls on.
C’mon people … if we keep voting Republican we’re gonna keep getting what we’ve always gotten.
Benedict Arnolds.
That is why the Republican Party is known as “The Stupid Party”. No thinking necessary. Just vote Republican and go home to whine about why nothing ever seems to get better.
How come every time the Republican brand becomes popular, RINOs crawl out of the woodwork to ruin it? I’d rather have Boxer stay and let a critical mass of real conservatives get elected to the point Boxer is ineffective than to have a bunch of RINOs that create the dissatisfaction level that gave of the catastrophe that was 2008.
I hate this watering down of integrity. It makes me sick.
If it’s ‘play’ you’re speaking of, well, ok then. If it is just playing–that’s for fun.
In the real world, if I want a ‘job’ done, I don’t want ‘everybody‘–I want the one who can do the job best, fastest and with the least back chat.
I got polled by McCain’s folk (a robo-poll) the other night while Brown’s votes were coming in. I have a feeling McCain wants to really see how bad things are for him going in to the primaries. Let’s hope he sees the writing on the wall, he spares Palin her misstep of support, and he decides to retire after his internal polling indicates he’s finished. Hayworth isn’t without his baggage, but I’ll put money in for him…let’s hope the money comes in for him from around the country like it did for Brown. The Tea Party’s most potent weapon at this point might be it’s collective pocket book for the right candidates.
I have seen carly several times on Fox and was not impressed with her. Some of the answers to the questions made me a bit uneasy. The more news that comes out about her, my uneasy feelings are getting worse about her. We realize boxer needs to go, but we should support a better candidate than her in CA, IMO.
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You clearly are not a Californian. If you are, you need to get out and meet more people. Most of the people who leave CA complaining about the shallowness of Californians are NY transplants who seek out NYers to hang out with while their here living in Santa Monica or Marina Del Rey. The shallow people they complain about are fellow NY transplants.
CA is more conservative than most states. It’s just that the state GOP, thanks to the execrable David Drier, traded away any hope for GOP competitiveness in exchange for securing their seats forever. Their is now only one party in CA. It was the testing ground for McCain-style post-partisan one-party government.
Don’t confuse government for the people. Here in CA, the population is at least as right of center as the typical Midwest state.
There IS a better candidate: Chuck DeVore. And he endorsed by Jim DeMint and the Tea Party movement. We are going to win this one.
McCain GO AWAY! How dense can you be; you got thumped in 2008. You’ve had your chance, and you are not helping. GO AWAY.
Cindy McCain speaks out against traditional marriage.
Yeah, seriously. McCain is better than Obama. Republicans can’t do better than this? The party is led by an army of Quislings.
yes Carly ‘let them eat cake’ Fiorina…a big advocate of the H1-B visa, used to keep wages down and flood the market with foreigners, so people like her can keep more money for themselves.
and she said There is no job that is America’s God-given right anymore. We have to compete for jobs as a nation as she was shipping jobs overseas as fast as she could, she lost her own job, because she was a total failure as the head of HP. what a disaster. lets promote this incompetent fool to senator!! amazing.
Both good points:
Now is the opportune time for the Tea Party movement to flex its muscles by demanding an alternative to Fiorino. If the Republicans don’t listen in the primary, then they get what they deserve in the general.
Indisputable. The Domestic Enemy has revealed their true face last year: a bunch of proto-totalitarians, whose own amateurism and incompetence were — until Tuesday — the only things that prevented them from realizing their dream of turning this country into a Banana Republic.
It is imperative that the donks in DC be thinned out until they are restored to disloyal minority status.
Here’s a documentary for Carly Fiorina and every other feminist: “The Monstrous Regiment of Women“.
I don’t plan to dominate this thread today and will soon be out of here but I was just thinking about how fitting it would be as a follow up to the Tea Party victory in MA for McCain’s seat to be next. It would have the same effect on the GOP as losing Ted Kennedy’s old seat did on the Dem Party. Isn’t that the point of the Tea Party? We are sick, sick, sick of entrenched corrupt government that is led by, naturally, old sick men.
Nice move Sarah. The only survivor of the 2008 GOP Titanic makes fatal mistake of boarding 2010 GOP Titanic.
John McCain…troglodyte
Carly Whatsherface…troglodyte
Jesse Jackson…a RACIST troglodyte
Chuck DeVore should be the nominee for U.S.Senate from CA. The RNC fools want you to believe that it’s a choice between Fiorina and Boxer, lesser of two evils again. Don’t fall for it. DeVore is the conservative, Fiorina is the RINO. Support the conservative or elect a socialist Fiorina/Boxer.
I might have missed the change but don’t “the people” vote these morons into office? The only bastion of conservatism in Kalifornia is Orange County and a few small pockets spread out all over the place. If it is as you say “right center as the typical midwest state” explain this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states
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The company I retired from was one of those who paid Jesse Jackson to not boycott and picket them. Over my 41 years of employment there solid real gains in treating minorities, women, handicapped persons, etc. were made. Sometimes this was mandated by state and federal laws, and other times by good sense.
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A lot of rather stupid politically correct–and divisive–stuff also occurred. Setting up special Black, Hispanic, Handicapped, GLBT engineering groups and celebrating their “special” status. I felt that the company should have been doing what the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. wanted–treating everyone fairly and ignoring race, ethnic background, sexual preferences, etc. and concentrating on real achievements and good character.
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Later I read about what happened to the money Jesse Jackson extorted from businesses. My company paid $50,000 to keep this parasite away–the money went to one of his “foundations” (aka scams) supposedly to help needy Black people to go to university. This tax exempt “charity” took in about $50,000,000 that year–and spent $200,000 for student aid! This is a 0.4 percent proper use of the money extorted–99.6 percent was kept for Jesse Jackson use. And no IRS action to remove tax exempt status and collect taxes on this money was ever made.
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Anyone “hanging” out with these race hustlers like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton in unworthy to hold public office. And any honest company should fight them in court–after videotaping the extortion attempts. And the government should start RICO prosecutions against these crooks and should confiscate their bank accounts, houses, Rolex watches, Mercedes, etc.
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Any student–of any race or background–can use student loans to get their education–no race hustling is needed. Bye Carley–don’t let the door hit you in the rear end on your way out. A person’s character is known by the company they keep.
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John Bibb
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How did we get so lucky to get these kind of people that want to represent us?
So she fell to the strong-arm tactics of Jesse Jackson.
hmmmmmm
She was not able to take the ‘heat’ and stand up for what is right.
Tells me she won’t take the heat in DC, either. Sounds like another political tool, er fool.
I’d never trust a woman to be conservative who had that butch hairstyle voluntarily.
If she had recent chemotherapy or was reprising the role of Ripley in Alien 3, I could understand it. But choosing to get a buzzcut like that screams “I HATE MEN SO MUCH THAT I WANT TO BE ONE!”
angryoldfatman,
I have heard that carly has had chemo for, I think it was breast cancer. That is why the short hair.
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both Brown and Palin would be wise to keep their distance from McCain..Hayworth is the better choice that’s for sure….
Just what we need, another west coast sister for COllins and Snowe.
California Republicans need to put up a better candidate than Carley, win or not. The only chance we have is in getting right thinking people that get us back on track. That does not include half measures or wrong directions in the interim. YES, Barbara needs to go…..but let’s not put another flawed representative in there for 6 or more years.
Thanks Michelle, and a special shout out to P-Phil. The field narrows.
And I believe this will be our best, and perhaps only chance to do so.
Carly may not be conservative enough for the lot of you, but I doubt that she’s any further left than Scott Brown…who’s put a thrill up your collective leg. That said, I think it’s reprehensible that Michelle is using a cancer treatment photo of Carly to make her look like a like some sort of lesbian activist. There are plenty of other photos of the woman available; in this photo, you’ve got a picture of a woman who’s been through something awful and has the guts not to try and hide herself away under a wig. Whoever came up with this…and anyone who continues to use it…should be ashamed of themselves.
I sincerely hope you do.
Have you ever heard of “gerrymandering”? People don’t vote for that. Take a look at what it has done for MA. Did you see the red/blue map for Brown? The entire country is like that. So is CA.
CA would be an entirely different state if we could just keep east coast transplants (of which I am one) out of here. It’s not Democrats who destroyed this state, it is David Drier-type Republicans.
People here who are unwilling to compromise need to evaluate the choices. We can elect someone who is not exactly the person we would choose. We can pick a person who is unelectable in our state just due to the demographics but we like everything they stand for, said, and done. However in this case Boxer remains Senator. I have a feeling Fiorina will listen a lot better to her constituents who lean right than Boxer does. If we want to control the congress, we have to learn to pick our fights. Stop electing democrats in red states and get what you can in blue ones. A little of something is better than all of nothing. As far as I am concerned, I will vote for the candidate who can defeat Boxer, but first they must win the primary. Lets us keep in mind electablity
Precisely. Gerrymandering is what has helped keep getting Barney Frank re-elected – but now he’s running for cover, and we’re hearing noises about his seat being contested in the upcoming elections.
It’s [way past] time for the people of Massachusetts to hand Barney a pink slip.
Now, at the beginning of the primaries, is the time to fight for the true conservatives.
Give the people a clear choice in November.
Then if they choose the collectivist, the voters will continue to reap exactly what they deserve.
After the primaries are over, if there is no true conservative left in the race (a person who just happens to be on the ballot but hasn’t got a snowball’s chance in a blast furnace of actually winning is not in the race), then it will be time to talk about whether or not defeating the Democrat is important enough in this particular case to warrant stepping back from the race and making only a protest vote for someone who isn’t really in the race.
In Massachusetts it made sense to get the 41st vote. It may make sense to vote for Fiorina just to unseat Boxer. We hope we won’t have to make that decision.
Support DeVore. Send money. Replacing Senator Boxer with a Senator Fiorina will give us 6 more years of Phil ranting about ‘noseholders.’ Spare us.
WE ARE evaluating our choices. We are waiting for you noseholding RINOs to compromise your religion of nothingness that sacrifices conservative principles on the altar of “electability” to come to your senses. Why don’t YOU guys come around to compromising YOUR commitment to nothingness? We ARE winning elections by putting forward our principles and America likes it.
Why don’t you just re-register as a Democrat?
Why don’t we get that whole Scott Brown thing out of the way so we can get back to ending McCain’s abomination of a career.
Given all the special elections there various states were holding that gave us the opportunity to stop the health care power grab, he was our best choice. Uh…wait a minute. There were no other special Senatorial elections, which made him our only choice. There were no other opportunities to gain the 41st Senate vote, and there were no other chances to knock the Democrats off their stride.
Yes, we were all happy about it at the time. No, he wasn’t as conservative as we would like him to be. No, watching him back McCain was no fun after all of our efforts to get him elected. But we did what we had to do.
Now back to the present. Renaming the RINOs “Scott Brown Republicans” or comparing them to him won’t help. Our support for other RINOs or McCain’s handpicked kindred spirits like Fiorina is in no way mandated. In fact, I’m looking forward to helping shatter the illusion that we’ve finally fallen back under the heel of our RINO “betters” in the GOP because of what we did for Brown.
There’s no worth in replacing Barbara Boxer with the Other Barbara Boxer. As far as I’m concerned, if Fiorina makes it through the primary with McCain’s help, she’s on her own. The seat is a net loss of zero, and we have plenty of chances to throw our support behind real conservatives in other races.
Sorry, it’s not the east coast transplants (although they do tend to shade things blue, like here in NM) but the uncontrolled illegal alien population streaming across our southern borders. These people are the reason you are going bankrupt as you dole out welfare and medical benefits as well as providing state run schools (research Colombus, NM scool system for a real eye opener. A school bus picks up illegals at the border crossing) regardless of their legal status. Progressives love big government and these policies help them grow it.
Bottom line: Progressives have got to go. That’s Dems and RINOs alike. And Steele as the head of the RNC needs to grow a pair and take a stand against progressives in his party or get the heck out of the way.
Amen! Roland.
In all honesty, I would rather have a RINO in a senate seat than to have Boxer. Sure we may be infuriated with her decisions, but if enough democrats are displaced then we may retake control of the senate. Nevertheless, I would not back this RINO in the primaries and I would hope a true conservative candidate steps forward to displace Boxer.
Ditto. Scott Brown was a stand-alone opportunity. It was about killing Obama-care right now knowing in advance that he is an establishment big-government Republican. Brown will be kept on a short leash and his effect on other races will be minimal. The important thing is to focus on making sure McCain is in trouble early and keep piling on. That is not the Brown aftermath the GOP was hoping for and would have less significance had we Tea Party people not swarmed for Brown. Now we’ll swarm for Hayworth and cripple the RINO agenda just as we crippled the Pelosi/Obama/Kennedy/Bush/McCain agenda. There will be no “last man standing” victories.
As I sit in Flyover Country, I must confess I am confused. McCain was ripped apart in the last election. Without Palin he may have gotten 35% of the vote at best.
After a drubbing like that why would he have any continued influence on the Republican Party, its policies, or direction?
If one recalls during the campaign, pundits repeatedly pointed out that with the exception of a few things like foreign policy, Obama and McCain basically had similar positions.
There is virtually nothing about McCain’s views that provide a contrast to Obama. McCain should be considered toxic. but the Party continues to hold him high esteem.
I am connvinced Republicans are suicidal.
I agree with both of these posts. The Massachusetts election changed everything. It was not only a warning to liberals, but a strong warning to non-conservative Republicans. We don’t want either of you, and we have the angry electorate to prove it to you.
Illegal immigration is monstrously unpopular out here with everyone except the elite Hollywood/Washington liberals. It is the most unpopular among blacks and latinos who suffer at the front lines of having to compete for jobs against the poorest of the 3rd world poor. It’s not that illegal immigration is not a contributing problem but that our elite in this state are members of the Northeast liberal establishment.
If Fiorina is a “mainstream conservative”, I’m Mary, Queen of Scots.
Well, I’m sure Palin is being loyal to McCain for his selection of her for his ticket in ’08 despite her being mishandled then. Her presence in his re-election campaign should only be a reminder of his failed presidetial run and how Palin was mistreated.
One would hope she will be campaigning for Hayworth in the general election once McCain in eliminated in the primary.
DeVore needs to get the kind of nationwide grassroots support that Marco Rubio and Scott Brown got. I plan on supporting him in the primary but Fiorina right now has the name recognition.
If you think the national GOP sucks, the California GOP makes Michael Steele look like Lee Atwater. My God, it’s a mess.
People wonder “why.” I lived here as a kid and have been back for almost 6 years now. I’ll tell you. The illegal aliens are a big part of the problem but by no means are they the only problem. One HUGE problem is that you have are elections driven by ideologues in the Bay Area and Los Angeles. The rest of CA is no different from Oklahoma or Texas. It’s the progressives who all migrated here from wherever so they can cool their heels with other progressives who run the show thanks to population centers and gerrymandering. Another problem is that long-time Californians have smoked the crack of extensive state services for too long. Even people who are otherwise not liberals go on glassy-eyed about the need for their precious “services.” These are the ones who are saying now that Prop 13 needs to go. Yet another problem…the huge number of government employees. Because private industry has fled CA for the past several years, most of the best and most stable jobs around are government jobs. Government employees are going to vote their own interest when it comes down to the wire, even if they’re tired of being double-dipped just to keep their pensions going. Yet another problem is how too many people vote solely on social issues. Liberals here worship abortion and campaign ads routinely vow to “protect the right to choose.”
But I think the biggest impediment to sanity in Sacramento is the headlock the public employee/nurses/teachers unions have put on the legislature. They’re the ones who control everything. The easiest way to break the headlock is to simply vote out the Democrats and replace them with heck, anything not a Democrat. But with a weak GOP and all of the problems I listed above, it’s going to be hard to do.
There needs to be a state-level Tea Party movement here, it’s goal to end one-party rule in CA. There’s been some rumblings of it here and there and it needs to grow.
That…is the liberal wet dream.
Sorry, meant to credit this poster in my post.
Yup, the progressives want us ALL to be government workers….theirs!
And yet blacks and latinos vote primarily for the left. Hmmmmm. Vote stupid, get stupid.
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Proposition 8 (traditional marriage initiative) won last year because of the black and latino vote that turned out to vote for Obama.
People are not as monolithic as you seem to want to believe them to be.
Fiorina does not give us “a little of something”. She’s no more one of us than Mike Bloomberg is. She could just as easily run on the Democratic ticket. More easily, in fact.
Everything you say is true. But what you leave out is that this Northeast liberal establishment in California is not voted into power by Northeast liberals. It’s voted into power by Californians, many of them Hispanic.
Hey California! Find me a Conservative that has completed a Heritage.org background check. Then I’ll send my Republican Primary donations directly Her or His way. Thanks from Minnesota!
I see J.D. Hayworth is preparing to challenge Juan McPain in AZ. I know who will receive my gringo moolah. Thanks for nothing Sarah.
Sorry but you can’t just make those kinds of statements without explaining it. Given the gerrymandering and the complete absence of Republicans on the ground, it’s not about Californians voting this mess in. Cubans keep electing Castro too. And Saddam Hussein kept getting “re-elected” with 100% of the vote.
Corruption is not democracy and we aren’t voting for corruption in CA. It’s just that our vote gets swallowed up in a way that delivers only one possible outcome. The CA Republican Party is even more corrupt than the CA Democratic Party. They are the ones who surrendered to Democrats permanently. No one voted for that.
I don’t know how much exposure you have to Hispanics and blacks but I live in a very good neighborhood and like most places out here, white people are in the minority. In Boston, where I came from, this is not possible and were it to happen, there would be big problems and white flight. Here, ho-hum.
The problem in CA is not rooted in the number of Mexicans living here but in the corruption of the political system that is dominated by Northeast liberals at the top.
90%+ blacks voted for Obama. You do the math. Latinos, not so much but more than 50%, I believe. We aren’t talking about specific issues here. We are talking about who they vote for and what those people stand for. Bottom line is that Kalifornia supports a progressive agenda as a whole.
Would someone explain to me who is /are the people who run the finances of this “Tea Party Express” who’s emails I get regualrly (that have now become so ga-ga over Brown/McCain) vs. those people actually organizing the Tea Party protests?
It almost seems that there is a disconnect between the two (and this could allow for outside co-option of the movement that is being attempted.)
This. (Not sure who DeVore is, however).
Thanks, Michelle, for letting us see who the newest CA RINO is running for office. A friend of jesse jackson is no friend of mine! Are the Republicans going to continue voting name recognition over substance (swartzenkennedy vs. McClintock)? I also noted that mccain is trying to hitch his wagon to Scott Brown’s. We’ll find out soon enough just what kind of Republican Brown is. In the meantime, NO MORE RINOS! Before the primaries, we do have a choice, a better choice! Don’t let a bad candidate run with the “R” beside her name. Otherwise, we have more of the likes of snowe, collins, spector. You can never trust a RINO!!!
The statistics are what they are. But the GOP is not giving blacks and latinos are reason to vote for them because they are not offering a clear alternative. If I were black, I certainly wouldn’t be voting for a McCain-led GOP that doesn’t stand for anything.
I challenge you to frame a cohesive argument that would resonate with blacks as to why they should vote Republican. Our plantation owners are nicer? Why? They belong to the same country club as the Dems plantation owners. YOU may not see it that way but THEY do. At best.
I present to you Chuck Devore.
He has the Jim DeMint RSCC endorsement and has the support of the Tea Party movement. Michelle has often commented about this.
So, you and allll your fellow conservatives, who according to you, out number the progressives, grow some onion and get together and start getting these people out of office. I am getting more active in the election process here in NM. Why? Because Kalifornia has nothing on NM when it comes to corruption in the system. We have Richardson as a governor. That ought to give you an idea.
It ain’t the money either. Brown got support from the whole country. If we raise up conservative candidates we too will benifit from this move to the right. We just need to quit sitting on backsides complaining and get out and do something. We can’t assume it will all get done by someone else.
The PUMA’s will love Carly. She’s perfect.
Of course, people used to say this in support of Mussolini (even though he didn’t make the trains run on time).
The real test of a candidate should be a modicum of real world experience and an unwavering support of the Constitution of the United States.
Ironically, McCain and Obama lack both. Fiorina has real world experience but her support of the Constitution seems a bit lacking…
BTW PP-
I don’t want a republican nor a democrat. I want a conservative. The less government we have the better. So far, it’s the repubs that come closer to what I want. But they are in no way perfect. Like I said before, Steele needs to grow a pair and weed out the RINOs.
I don’t even know why you picked me to make that point. I’m not a Republican either. I’m an unaffiliated independent. But grassroots movements start at the bottom, not at the top. Brown got elected because he was at the right place at the right time and became useful to us Tea Party people. Next in order of importance are Hayworth, Rubio and DeVore. We are decapitating the one-party system with grassroots power. I don’t know how your arguments further that. Mexicans and blacks are not the enemy. Corrupt government is.
go get em phil; chuck devore sounds like a guy worth investing in. maybe he needs a money bomb in march to help him with the campaign financing. and maybe some of the defense contractor businesses in so cal who are now unshackled will see fit to run some ads promoting chuck. the swift boat for truth squad kept kerry in boston, maybe the babs boxer policy squad for truth needs to be founded, and it seems the carly fiorino reality squad needs to investigate also.
I agree. And I’m not picking on you, we were having a conversation. I grew up in the bay area and raised my kids in SoCal so I’m not ignorant of the political landscape. I salute you for getting involved. It will be a tough row to hoe to rout out the corruption but it isn’t impossible.
BTW I’m married to a naturalized Mexican and I assure you I do not sleep with the enemy.
What is her problem with having the speeches taped? Where are politicians who actually stand for something and are not afraid to have it documented? We got to where we are today because the politicians who got elected used lies and deception instead to values and morals. I’m tired of the morally bankrupt making decisions. Walk the walk or go away! No more political chameleons need apply.
The way this bho has managed to bad mouth and tax almost every business in the U.S. you would think these people would give big time to anyone who would undo his policies. I guess that is why this bho and the d’s in dc are so upset at the SC decision the other day.
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Well, boys and girls, if your wallet has slammed shut on RNC donations we can make a difference in who is or is not elected. Granted, Brown was in a world of hurt until those like MM and other conservative blogs put out the call to donate. We helped get him elected, though few of us were able to actually vote for him. We can do it again.
Exactly. Then Brown and Palin quickly turned to endorse McCain hoping to divert our energy into the lap of the GOP establishment. Getting McCain in trouble ASAP and then piling on will reinforce the grassroots message we sent in MA. Only we can stop us. They can’t.
That’s what certain people though with the one – how’s that hope ‘n change working for you?
P-Phil@2:23
I’m still scratching my head over Brown and Palin’s endorsements? McAmnesty is toxic waste at this point with conservatives, but the RNC still loves him.
Love2rumba #76,
Personally, when I see something or someone touting itself/themselves as “Donate to Tea Party Something” or “I’m a Tea Party Leader/Candidate/Whatnot”, I immediately rule them out as anything but opportunists and bandwagon types until it’s proven otherwise. In fact, I’m not really thrilled with the Tea Party Convention either.
There are real grassroots Tea Party types you can support this way. All else is suspect. Especially if they are espousing their love of RINOs.
The RNC is no mystery. They are bought and paid for by certain interests. These guys see themselves as defending their own little Alamo to the last man. They won’t.
Brown was no surprise either. He’s not exactly the sharpest tack in the box and his record is very liberal.
Palin though was a big disappointment. It tells us all we need to know about her. Just a starry-eyed country bumpkin new to the big city. She can’t believe her sudden fame and now feels a sense of loyalty to the man who made it possible.
She lacks the sophistication to survive in the jungle of big-time politics. Her influence and power once lay in being a potential candidate for us grassroots types (more than 50% of Americans and growing). By swearing her fealty to the leader of the opposition right out of the gate, she defanged and declawed herself. Better she did it now than next year. Now we know and should move on. After all, we are winning.
I’d be very surprised if we disagree on much of anything. It’s just about how we phrase it.
P-Phil – all very good points.
I’ve started sending out letters to those asking for my vote in 2010 that I’ll be happy to vote for them – as soon as they publicly announce they’ll be sharing their tax return showing where every single dime they’ve earned over the past year(s) came from. I’m sick and tired of seeing virtual paupers elected and then retiring years later as multiple millionaires. Must admit I’ve not received one response.
Thanks, symrian.
This hand wringing over a California GOP candidate is really silly. As long as she will caucus with the GOP, fine.
The current grass roots movement will limit the influence and power of the RINO’s. Until then. We have 41 senators.
We aren’t interested in limiting the influence and power of TINOs. We are interested in putting them out of business so we can get back to our own lives. We want to destroy these one-world-without-borders Marxists whether they are Democrats or Republicans. We are fighting entrenched corruption on a large scale.
RINOs, not “TINOs”. (Head smack!)
Will you please wake up and try to make sense? A political party doesn’t “offer” a buffet of choices for one demographic group for the purpsoe of inducing those groups to chose that party. The choices that a political party “offers”, are a result of the philosophy of that Party. The philosophy comes first, then people choose that party or not.
Blacks and Latinos dont vote republican because we generally stand for small government and individual self-reliance. The Dems offer Big Government welfare programs and a large segment of blacks and Latinos rely on that. Obviously the trait of self-reliance is not akin to a habit of relying on welfare to make a living.
So your statement that Repubs/conservatives have to offer something to blacks and Latinos to make them vote for our candidates is a completely specious argument. And since blacks and Latinos do not generally favor abortion and gay marriage, conservative planks in the platform, it is obvious what those groups value more: big government generous with OUR tax dollars. So let’s keep it real and keep it honest.