A terror trial debacle happening right now
You want a glimpse of the future that crime-coddling Eric Holder and the White House will be bringing up en masse?
Right now, in New York City, jihad scientist Aafia Siddiqui is on trial.
See here, here, here, and here for background on the MIT-trained microbiologist/suspected KSM operative who went missing after 9/11 — and was caught, shot, and extradited two years in Pakistan after threatening to kill American soldiers.
The Pakistani government is paying for part of her defense. She has used the civilian court system to shout anti-American propaganda and spew hatred against Jews, cause legal chaos, and make a mockery of the rights she has been granted. al Qaeda has been trained to game the system. The Western-educated Siddiqui is milking it for all it’s worth.
On Monday, she was thrown out twice for outburts. Her defense team is now asking for, you guessed it, a mistrial.
A U.S.-trained Pakistani scientist linked to al-Qaida got into trouble again Monday in federal court after twice interrupting the sometimes tearful testimony of an American solider who claimed he shot her in self defense in Afghanistan in 2008.
“I feel sorry for you,” Aafit Saddiqui blurted out at one point at her attempted murder trial in Manhattan. After a judge had deputy U.S. marshals remove her, she pointed at the witness and muttered something else before disappearing behind a side door.
U.S. District Judge Richard Berman allowed Saddiqui to return later, but kicked her out again amid another rambling tirade about injustice. At the end of the day, the defense argued that the removals made her look bad in front of the jury and asked for a mistrial, which the judge denied.
“It’s highly appropriate for her to be escorted out of the courtroom when she acts out,” he said.
Siddiqui – a specialist in neuroscience who trained at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Brandeis University – has insisted in previous courtroom rants that she’s innocent. She also has refused to work with her defense attorneys, including some paid for by the Pakistani government.
The soldier described Siddiqui’s 2008 ambush:
He testified Afghan authorities had told him Siddiqui had been restrained, and was shocked when she sudden appeared from behind a curtain wielding his M4 rifle and yelling, “Allah akbar,” Arabic for “God is great.”
“It was pretty amazing she got that thing up and squared off,” he said. “She was looking at me and aiming dead at me.”
Hearing the rifle go off, the officer said he followed his military training and pulled his pistol. Siddiqui was wrestling with an interpreter when he shot her in the stomach.
“I operated within the rules of engagement to eliminate the threat,” he said.
Two jurors were also let go after a man sitting in the courtroom pointed at them, used his finger as a gun to pretend to shoot them, and mouthed an obscenity.
Reports the NYPost: ” The unidentified man in a white headdress was taken into custody but it was unclear if charges were filed following the incident in Manhattan federal court.”
An al Qaeda suspect given free reign with her tongue in a public courtroom. Jurors threatened. Prosecution in jeopardy.
Now, imagine the scene being repeated in 12 or 20 or 25 more courtrooms across America simultaneously with similar high-value suspects and the jihadi dregs of Gitmo.
Are you ready? It’s coming.
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Our duty is clear. We must neutralize this administration in 2010 at the ballot box and then eliminate it at the same ballot box in 2012. That is, if this administration doesn’t remove us first.
Shame this wasn’t resolved on the battle field.
Shouldn’t she be sitting there quietly in a burkha?
Shouldn’t her testimony be worth about a third of a man’s?
Shouldn’t she be illiterate, unskilled, and unemployable?
Shouldn’t her male family members be killing her for showing her face to infidel men?
Or is she like the libs, desiring such a future for everyone except themselves.
and holder should be investigated and brought up on charges, he is clearly more of an islamic enabler than anything else.
So much for the ‘poor and oppressed’ defense.
FIFY
Such people could see the trial in a sideroom on a video screen. Is that inappropiate now? They used to do that. Mistrials should never be granted; allowing the defendant to profit by the behavior.
So what’s the big deal? Obummer, Duh One, uses the White House to do the same thing!
An urgent plea to anyone in the military…Please, please, please do not take any more prisoners!! This administration loves muslim terrorist jihadis. They want to give them a voice in the very country they hate. Why, in the name of God, are we allowing them American justice when they want to destroy our justice system and the entire country? This is totally insane, and everyone knows it!
this is why terrorists (nonmilitary combatants) aren’t subject to the geneva conventions, and shouldn’t be subject to civilian courts. they aren’t like the robber who shoots the store clerk, and they sure as hell aren’t like the spouse who kills the other spouse. send her to gitmo, try her in a military tribunal, and hang her sorry (_!_).
She went to Brandeis University? Named after the first Jewish Supreme Court justice?
The Obama administration wants this chaos.
They want Americans desensitized.
Sure hope more of these jihidis are being ‘tried’ and executed on the battlefield.
The irony of her having attended Brandeis University lies not only because Brandeis was a very active Zionist but that he was arguably the most effective defender of our freedom of speech in US history.
Stupidity this egregious will be addressed. Congress will act to turn this around, certainly after the November elections. Unbelievable. This Administration is a perpetual train wreck.
No, acting like an ass made her look bad in front of the jury.
When found quilty do we get to stone her?
I’m sure the KSM trial will go just as smoothly… who will be the next Lynn Stewart?
The rules of engagement should be changed to ensure there is no need to try people like her again.
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I seem to remember reading how Saddam Hussein’s courts handled defendant behavior problems in his courts. The court was recessed for half an hour after the incident. The perps were taken out back and given 100 lashes. Then they were tied into the witness chair with duct tape across their mouths and the trial continued.
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More civilized courts provide a separate soundproof room with closed circuit T.V. to give the accused the traditional rights to “face” their accuser and to hear and give testimony.
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But the real problems occurred when this Jihadi woman was captured. First the careless handling of weapons around a prisoner–and the failure to handcuff or tie her into a chair during interrogation.
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And the second mistake was not shooting her between the eyes and in the heart when she was trying to shoot our military. She never should have survived this incident. That’s why guns hold more than one bullet–and why proper gun control–aka marksmanship–is important.
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John Bibb
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Let’s remember that this is all being done because Obama believes that Club Gitmo creates more jihadis.
Fool!
From one of the linked articles -
“She is charged with allegedly grabbing a US Army officer’s M4 rifle and shooting at a team of FBI agents who were trying to question her on July 18, 2008. She was shot in the stomach in the exchange of fire and taken to the US a few weeks later to face federal charges of attempted murder and assault.”
So when was it decided and who decided to try this woman in Federal Court? Will the person(s) who made this decision be taken to task?
No doubt she is disruptive, however that is being dealt with and certainly lessons will be learned to deal with it in the future.
What would prevent her outbursts during a military trial? Would the Judge in that situation do the same thing as the Judge in a civilian trial? Are private citizens not allowed to watch a military trial?
How different are military trials from civilian ones, except for the venue?
I’d like to just reiterate, that in these hard economic times, that bullets are cheaper, is all.
This is simply a case of the insane trying the insane…
She should have been tried and executed where she was taken into custody. She should have never made it to America to participate in this obscene farce!
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Speaking of terrorists, I wonder what place Lloyd Woodson of Reston, Va. was planning to hit. He seemed all set to do some terrorist style shooting.
I was just seeing that story. I’m sure we’ll learn he was not a terrorist!
Well, I am sure Mr. Woodson was just trying to exercise his 2nd Amendment rights and that there is a perfectly logical and peaceful explanation for all of this. Most likely he was on his way to Philly to render firearms training to NBP security staff…
At what point will Holder’s actions become worthy of Congressional investigation? This guy is making a mockery out of the Justice Department. I am sure in the past rules got bent and favors dealt, but there is not even an appearant rule of law with this guy. The outcome of the case/investigation depends on your political affiliation pure and simple.
House Judiciary Committee investigation commencing in January 2011 God willing.
Where do you buy a 37mm “grenade launcher?”
Cobray makes a 37mm Flare Launcher but I don’t see a 37mm grenade launcher listed on their site. But, evidently you can create your own grenades to launch from this device, evidently without modification to the launcher. I suppose the instructions for this are buried somewhere in the Al Qaeda staff manual.
That must come in handy during hunting season when it is too cold to get a good shot off!
I know about AG Holder’s conflicts of interest with those defending these guys, but since DANEgerus brought up Lynne Stewart, I’m curious if there are CCR (Center for Constitutional Rights) alums inside DoJ?
Let me know if my thinking is wrong here- at best, the Obama administration is ignorantly destroying the judiciary by ineptitude, at worst, they’re doing it intentionally.
I see one of two outcomes: either KSM and the gang go back on the street after embarrassing trials, or they go to jail/death after setting precedent.
Either way, the terrorists meet their objective of martyrdom or the freedom to go back to the battlefield (which could be the streets of the USA).
BadIdeaGuy,
Of course it is intentional. NOBODY COULD BE THIS STUPID!
Thanks a lot, Eric Holder. The GOP needs to run those in commercials in a constant loop for the next 2 years.
Thanks, it’s yours, feel free to run with it, as I’m not sure how it should be phrased.
That close, and he missed her head? Geesh. I agree with the earlier posts: We need new rules of engagement.
Absolutely agree!
The ACLU insists that all radical Islamic terrorists be tried in federal court and only in New York City with a jury picked from the most liberal voting population in the nation. Then the ACLU insists that the “supporters” and “friends” of the defendant be allowed to fill the courtroom and intimidate jurors. The “supporters” target the jurors they think are most hostile to the defendant and they do what they can to make sure that the jurors are replaced. The trial going on in New York City is a circus, the type that makes Eric Holder and his friends at the ACLU very happy and proud. Literally the nuts are running the asylum. The courtroom seats are totally taken up by the supporters of this radical terrorist and they outnumber the US marshals. One of my friends is doing an unrelated trial in the building. He told me that the supporters of Sidiqui loiter in the hallways and stare and glare at people walking by, often muttering nasty things. This is only a precursor to what Eric Holder has in store for the American people. Maybe, just maybe, the trial won’t take place until 2013 and Obama and Holder will be gone and the case sent back to a military commission. Neither Obama or Holder has his heart in the battle against Islamic terrorists. We know it and the terrorists know it.
Holder was not the AG on 18 July 2008.
Yes, Holder is AG now and is continuing down the road his predecessor set for him, with regard to this particular trial.
Yep, take Holder to task for not changing what his predecessor put in motion, but his predecessor must also be taken to task for having made the original decision to try this woman in Federal Court.
Technically, wouldn’t a “jury of her peers” consist of thirteen highly educated murderous radical jihadists?
Rerun of the Chicago 7.
OJ al Qaeda is looking for the real terrorist on a golf course somewhere in Dubai…
He went on to say that she had no rules of engagement and he was afraid that if he pointed a gun at her, he would be tried in a Pakistani court and have his head lopped off for mean spiritedness.
Luckily, he was able to review the 100 paragraphs on what he could and could not do it that situation and make a decision to save his life within seconds.
“Of course I wondered what may happen to me after I shot her. The way the Obama administration goes after soldiers and CIA operatives, I fully expected to be hung out to dry. In fact, I still may be. I basically had to throw caution to the wind and take my chances by saving my life first and worry about court martial charges later. I am still under investigation”
Osama Bin Laden refused to comment for this story.
Oh boy, a chance to be Joe Biden.
so if I ever get hauled into court, I can just act a fool up in here, and it’ll all be hunky dory?
I like “Wild” Bill Donovan’s attitude towards terrorists:
“Espionage is not a nice thing, nor are the methods employed exemplary. Neither are demolition bombs nor poison gas, but our country is a nice thing and our independence is indispensable. We face an enemy who believes one of his chief weapons is that none but he will employ terror. But we will turn terror against him – or we will cease to exist.” 25 JUN 1942
Allah Akbar means god is greatest, not G-d is great.
Allah is a false moon god, therefore he can not be written as G-d. Second allah is greater than all other gods at the kabba. 360 of them.
Allah Akbar=allah is greatest.
I should be allowed to talk to her.
That right there shows the incredible lunacy of trying terrorists in civilian courts.
How long has this soldier been removed from his normal duties while this farce has gone on?
Those soldiers currently on the battlefield must be wondering if they too at some point in their future will be tracked down and hauled into a civilian court room to provide testimony against some jihadi.
What if the soldier is killed in subsequent battles prior to the trial? Does the perp get to walk since the testimony cannot be provided?
Unless they file charges and prosecute this harshly, it won’t take many more acts of intimidation to get a mistrial because there won’t be enough jurors.
This is the administration that the voters elected.
This is the process we must now accept and live with.
That is what we must do as citizens, whether we like it or not.
Obama was elected.
The Senators and House members were elected.
Obama appointed his administration and they were approved by Congress.
Win, lose, or draw, that is the way it is.
So, we must thank all those voters who voted for Obama, the Senate, and the House, and thank Obama for his appointments, for the situation that we are now in.
Thank you, president Obama.
I did not vote for you, but the majority of the rest of the nation DID vote for you, and you did appoint the Attorney General to his office, and you do approve of this process as is.
Win, lose, or draw, it is on Obama, the Senate and House, the Attorney General, and the people who voted Obama into office.
Well said William-Obama did pretty much tell us of his Radicalism, his contempt for everything we hold dear, for his own grandmother, Typical White People and the Constitution as a Bill of Negative Rights.The Lame Stream Media might have spun his story a bit but Obama did tell us.