Illinois Senate primary: Lame and Lamer

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 2, 2010 11:12 PM

GOP cap-and-tax 8′er Mark Kirk won the GOP primary in Illinois for the Senate seat formerly occupied by Barack Obama.

After pandering to enviro-nitwits and casting his vote in favor of the largest energy tax increase in American history based on shoddy science and Al Gore-led fear-morning, Rep. Kirk promised Illinois voters he wouldn’t pander the same way if held higher office. He’s also a squish on the Second Amendment and life issues, a supporter of the massive tobacco tax increases to pay for Obama’s SCHIP expansion/Demcare Trojan Horse, and an expedient new critic of earmarks. John McCormack searches for something good to say about Kirk — it’s thin gruel, but here it is.

So: Kirk is Lame.

His Democrat opponent Alexi Giannoulias is Lamer.

The Illinois treasurer and Obama crony declared victory tonight after his primary challenger David Hoffman conceded:

Illinois Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias declared victory tonight in the Democratic primary for President Barack Obama’s former U.S. Senate seat….

…While Giannoulias tried to stress his stances on the economy and what he would do to bring more jobs to Illinois, Hoffman tried to run as a reformer and routinely raised questions about Giannoulias’ experience and decision-making as senior loan officer at his family-owned Broadway Bank, as well as his handling as state treasurer of $150 million in losses with the Bright Start college savings program.

Hoffman reiterated questions about loans Broadway awarded to a convicted bookmaker and prostitution ring promoter, but the issue came to a head last week when the now-struggling bank, which is still run by one of Giannoulias’ brothers, agreed to greater government oversight and was told it had to raise tens of millions of dollars.

Hoffman said Giannoulias had to better explain to voters what role he had in the bank’s troubles. Jackson said Giannoulias should drop out of the race. Giannoulias said that only a small percentage of the bank’s nonperforming loans were made while he was senior loan officer. On Bright Start, he argued his office noticed the losses, ordered corrections and reached a settlement that allowed investors to get back more than half the money they lost.

Giannoulias rose to statewide prominence in 2006 when he got Obama’s endorsement for treasurer. The two have known each other for years and played basketball when Obama was a state senator. But Obama did not endorse Giannoulias in the primary. Indeed, Giannoulias even had to answer questions about why the White House spent last summer trying to get Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan to run. She declined.

The culture of ideological and political corruption runs deep in the veins of both parties in Illinois. We head to the general election with no illusions about the mediocre, uninspiring caliber of these two hack candidates. The measly voter turnout (contrast with the Massachusetts Miracle) tells all.

It’s another hold-your-nose-and-vote race.

Blech.

***

And the Chicago corruption beat goes on:

A top ethics aide to Mayor Richard Daley has resigned in the face of allegations that he and his boss used poor judgment in the handling of a student intern’s sexual harassment complaint.

Mark E. Meaney resigned his $146,940-a-year position as first deputy in the mayor’s Office of Compliance. He had joined Anthony Boswell to run the compliance office in 2007, which Daley created to promote a culture of good conduct among city workers.

“It was a privilege to have been part of something that had never been tried before, corporate-style compliance in municipal government,” Meaney wrote Tuesday in an email to the Tribune. “Mayor Daley should be applauded in his efforts at true reform. Unfortunately, fear and blame seem to be winning over culture change.”

Meaney’s comments seemed to be aimed at the Inspector General’s Office, which has been criticized in court filings for allegedly creating a “culture of fear” where workers are reluctant to report honest mistakes for fear they will be punished.

Meaney said he was returning to the private sector and had no regrets. His resignation was effective last Friday, said Jennifer Hoyle, spokeswoman for the city’s Law Department.

Inspector General Joseph Ferguson last month found that Boswell and Meaney mishandled a 2008 sexual harassment complaint from an intern at the 911 Center. Ferguson’s report concluded that the two men repeatedly disregarded city policies and showed favoritism toward the 911 supervisor by trying to find him another city job and a new intern.

Ferguson recommended to Daley that the mayor suspend the men for at least 30 days without pay. He declined to comment about Meaney’s resignation.

***

Rolling my eyes…

RNC CHAIRMAN MICHAEL STEELE STATEMENT ON ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VICTORIES

WASHINGTON – Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Michael Steele released the following statement today:

“After tremendous primary victories, I extend my sincere congratulations to all GOP primary winners tonight. Congressman Mark Kirk is poised to help lead the strongest Republican ticket that Illinois has seen in a generation. The Republican Party is in an excellent position to compete on the issues most important to the people of Illinois. Whether it’s the senate seat once held by President Obama, or the governorship, or other seats across the state, voters are clearly tired of the arrogance and corruption in government and are ready to make the change they want. With its unemployment rate among the worst in the nation, Illinois can no longer afford the binge spending and failed leadership of entrenched Democrats. There is no doubt in my mind that many Republican candidates will prevail over their Democrat opponents this fall and provide the representation and leadership Illinoisans have asked for and deserve.

“Over the past year, independent voters in Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts have made their voices heard by sending a clear message that they’ve had enough of the binge spending and government-growing agenda coming from Washington and it looks like Illinois is eager to follow their lead.”

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  1. #1
    On February 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 pm, graysonret said:

    I certainly wouldn’t believe Kirk. It seems either way, no matter who wins, the public loses. Corruption is so rampant, they don’t even hide it.

  2. #2
    On February 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 pm, jangar said:

    Ferguson’s report concluded that the two men repeatedly disregarded city policies and showed favoritism toward the 911 supervisor by trying to find him another city job and a new intern.

    Should have called Clinton and saved a lot of time and effort.
    He’s got little to do but interview interns.

  3. #3
    On February 2nd, 2010 at 11:39 pm, chicagojedi said:

    Glad I’m moving to Florida. A vote for Rubio sounds better than a vote for Kirk. The people of Illinois have shown they want to continue living in a leftist hell. If they enjoy the cesspool they can have it.

  4. #4
    On February 2nd, 2010 at 11:40 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Illinois Senate primary: Lame and Lamer

    Lamest: The guy who last had the seat…

  5. #5
    On February 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 pm, AmericaFirst said:

    So we go find an Independent and donate our money to the third party (I). Show me what you got Illinois.

  6. #6
    On February 2nd, 2010 at 11:45 pm, Hangfire said:

    It looks like Illinois will have to founder a little longer.

  7. #7
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 12:36 am, BlackFlag55 said:

    What does it say about the treacherous state of Illinois’ criminal nature when Lech Walesa comes from his nation which wrested itself out of the grip of Communism to stump for a political candidate here? And then says places like Illinois are more socialist than Europe?

    And Illinois doubles down on the worst possible choices for political office?

    The Black Plague would be too good for these fools.

  8. #8
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 12:39 am, rambler said:

    Not a surprise. Too lazy to vote! Any wonder that the state is so corrupt.

  9. #9
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 12:55 am, Member-VRWC said:

    “Over the past year, independent voters in Virginia, New Jersey, and Massachusetts have made their voices heard by sending a clear message that they’ve had enough of the binge spending and government-growing agenda coming from Washington and it looks like Illinois is eager to follow their lead.”

    So how does voting for someone like Kirk who voted for cap and trade indicate Illinois has had enough of binge spending and government-growing agenda coming from Washington?

    Oh, wait. It doesn’t. Of course, it is Illinois … consider the source.

  10. #10
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 1:53 am, atheling said:

    On February 2nd, 2010 at 11:21 pm, graysonret said:
    It seems either way, no matter who wins, the public loses.

    They deserve to lose. They voted for the losers.

    Corruption is so rampant, they don’t even hide it.

    Then that means the people are corrupt. In representative government, if your government is corrupt (especially for an extended time), then the people are corrupt, because they voted for them and keep them in office.

    Illinois can rot.

  11. #11
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 5:30 am, yohannbiimu said:

    My state (Michigan) isn’t in any better shape with Levin and Stabinow. Michigan is actually the model by which Obama hopes to make all of the United States. Ever since governor Jennifer Granholm and these two (forming a three stooges team) have been running things since 2002, everything in Michigan has been turned on it’s head.

    There was essentially full employment in Michigan when Granholm took office (about 5.6%, which was BELOW the national average). Now Michigan is dragging the nation down with a nearly a 15% rate, which is probably closer to 20% when you consider how many have stopped looking for work. Also, when you consider the fact that Michigan’s population is dropping every year that’s tens of thousands less people that would otherwise count as jobless in this pathetic state.

    And you know something? I do not expect much to change here, even when we finally have a senatorial election in 2012 (when Obama is hopefully voted out). This state is becoming everything that the “progressives” can hope for in a state, with citizens who are helpless, needy, and hopelessly ignorant & stupid. Why else did Obama call upon Granholm to join him as an “economic adviser” during his president-elect and early administration activities? She’s a statist moron.

  12. #12
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 5:34 am, graysonret said:

    Illinois can rot.

    Unfortunately, who they vote for can affect all of us by being in Congress. One of them could even become President.

  13. #13
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 6:30 am, MtsEdge said:

    On February 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 pm, AmericaFirst said:
    So we go find an Independent and donate our money to the third party (I). Show me what you got Illinois.

    Sounds like a good plan. Knock both of those clowns out of the race. Our future depends on it.

  14. #14
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 6:30 am, zorro said:

    >sigh<

  15. #15
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 7:34 am, swede said:

    atheling said:
    Then that means the people are corrupt. In representative government, if your government is corrupt (especially for an extended time), then the people are corrupt, because they voted for them and keep them in office.

    Or stupid. A good liar (e.g. politician) can convince folks that pond scum is caviar. They won’t know the difference ’till they taste it.

    Let’s face it 53% of our fellow Americans bought into Mr Charisma’s Hopey Changiness. I think we who love our country, know what’s actually going on and are passionate about it are a minority.

  16. #16
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 7:37 am, right4life said:

    lets see chicago, gang-infested killing fields…East St. Louis…mini version of detroit.

    and they keep electing democRATs…and there republicans there are mini-mes of the Rats.

    what a mess.

  17. #17
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 7:39 am, right4life said:

    and these two (forming a three stooges team)

    hey thats an INSULT to the stooges!! Moe and the boys were always working at something…plumbers, chefs, etc!!!!

  18. #18
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 8:11 am, Send_Me said:

    We head to the general election with no illusions about the mediocre, uninspiring caliber of these two hack candidates.
    It’s another hold-your-nose-and-vote race.

    Who says that I have to “hold my nose and vote” for anyone? Why should either of them get my vote? This illustrates my point nicely as to why “conservatives” fail so many times. They fall into the “stupid demographic” of voters, as politicians call them. Politicians know you’ll never vote Democrat- got it. They also know you won’t “waste your vote” on a third-party candidate. So, I ask, why should Republicans listen to “conservatives”? They earn your vote merely by having the letter “R” next to their names. “Conservatives” claim to be principled folks, yet they throw their votes away for less than anyone else.

  19. #19
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 8:14 am, iamsaved said:

    Illinois downstate voters are apathetic after getting steamrolled by the liberal, dem strongholds of Chicago and East St. Louis for years. Why vote?

    Like Caliofornia, Illinois could be a case study of what happens to a state when statists take over.

  20. #20
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 8:20 am, swede said:

    Send_Me said:
    So, I ask, why should Republicans listen to “conservatives”? They earn your vote merely by having the letter “R” next to their names.

    Eh, not so much these days. Per Rasmussen:

    There are more conservatives than Democrats in America, and there are more Democrats than Republicans.

    One reason for this is that while Republican voters overwhelmingly consider themselves conservative, only 56% of conservative voters consider themselves to be Republicans. In other words, nearly half of all conservatives nationwide reject the Republican Party label.

    This means that Republicans looking to broaden their party’s outreach cannot ignore the need to attract a large number of conservative voters along with some political moderates.

    Just sayin’.

  21. #21
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 8:37 am, huhwhat said:

    Being a resident of this cesspool for over 30 years now, I think I have finally lost all hope that things will ever get better. It is about 7:30 AM and I would really like a nice big stiff drink of whiskey. SOB.

  22. #22
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 8:41 am, Send_Me said:

    On February 3rd, 2010 at 8:20 am, swede said:
    One reason for this is that while Republican voters overwhelmingly consider themselves conservative, only 56% of conservative voters consider themselves to be Republicans.

    BLUF: “Conservatives” talk a lot about how they identify themselves, but generally base their votes on expediency vice any “conservative” principle.
    I agree with you and Rasmussen in terms of how “conservatives” consider themselves. They talk a big game about how they’re different and separate from, and more principled than, Republicans, but then they still “hold their nose and vote” for them. Republicans don’t want to change “conservatives”. They only want their votes. Often times it merely takes a Republican to say “see, I’m conservative” in order to achieve that goal.

  23. #23
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 8:46 am, Milwaukee Mike said:

    At least in Wisconsin, our Democrats in power are only mentally deficient; Not that and criminally connected.

  24. #24
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 8:47 am, ThatSamIAm said:

    The people of Chicago suffer because they permit the political plague of corruption to erode everything they have and everything they do. They truly have the government they deserve. Unfortunately it was allowed to spread out of Chicago into the rest of the nation with Obama. Soon the American people will have a cure for this disease and Obama will be a memory of failure just like Jimmy Carter.

  25. #25
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 8:50 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    “If you’re the right kind of Republican

    Kirk says…

    Yeah…. he means…”If you’re a liberal.”

    Like him.

    Poster boy for RINO 2010.

  26. #26
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:03 am, southsideironworks said:

    Not one dime for the Illinois State Republican Party.

  27. #27
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:11 am, dan708 said:

    At this point, the winners of both primaries are in dispute – or do I mean disrepute? 8-)

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100203/ap_on_el_gu/us_illinois_primary

  28. #28
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:29 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Laura Ingraham last week on her radio show was warning about Kirk. She said there was a good conservative (Hughes?) in the bunch that would have been much better at representing ‘the people’.
    (I remember her wondering where all the Tea Party people were.)

    I’ll have to search MMs site because at the time I wondered why I hadn’t seen anything from her on this. (Yes, I know we can’t depend on MM doing our work for us.)

  29. #29
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:37 am, GraniteMan said:

    Folks remember that Chicago has about as much population as the rest of the state. Don’t be too hard on us down-state people. We suffer too. I voted for Hughes.

  30. #30
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:43 am, iamsaved said:

    Let me brighten your day and go off thread for a moment. The Illinois’ primary is probably much ado about nothing. They’re either going to get a true blue Dem or a RINO. However, giving money to ACORN in this year’s budget proposal isn’t something to be overlooked!

  31. #31
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:46 am, MtsEdge said:

    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:29 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Can Hughes now run as an independent?

  32. #32
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 am, GladzKravtz said:

    Can Hughes now run as an independent?

    If he does, I’ll send money. I wonder what the deadline is to get on a ballot up there.

  33. #33
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 am, swede said:

    Send_Me said:
    They talk a big game about how they’re different and separate from, and more principled than, Republicans, but then they still “hold their nose and vote” for them.

    Well, I guess that would be me. Haven’t voted for a candidate I was enthusiastic about since ’84. I am in the category Rasmussen describes with many others here. I have registered as an Independent for 10 years because the GOP no longer represents my values, and I will not be associated with them. I honestly hope the GOP will wake up to the fact that for every voter they attract with their “big tent”, they drive ten away. I am conservative, not Republican. They are now two different things.

    GOP Website. This. Is. Pathetic.

  34. #34
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:50 am, brushman said:

    As another resident of Illinois, I too am disappointed (but not surprised) at Mark Kirk’s victory. While I voted against him in the primary, I will probably hold my nose and vote for him in November. Now before the other posters start hurling verbal bricks at me, I would do so only to wrest another Senate seat from the donks. After all, the seat was briefly warmed by His Most High Obamaship, and a Republican (even a RINO like Kirk) winning it would be similar to Brown winning The Swimmer’s seat in Massachusetts. It’s about numbers, and any seat the GOP can take reduces the leftist control of congress.

    That said, I WILL NOT donate any time or money to Kirks campaign, the Illinois GOP or the national GOP. My time, money and resources will go directly to candidates I choose without being filtered through any GOP hacks. I live in the 8th district, home of Pelosi toady Melissa Bean. Her challenger is Joe Walsh (not the singer, but it seems life has been good to him so far [rimshot]). I plan on finding out more about him in the weeks ahead, and if he passes muster, I’ll volunteer my time and/or donate to his campaign. I donated directly to Brown, and look what happened. I’ll also donate to other challengers who can defeat a donk (such as the GOP candidate against Specter).

  35. #35
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:57 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    He’s also a squish on the Second Amendment and life issues, a supporter of the massive tobacco tax increases to pay for Obama’s SCHIP expansion/Demcare Trojan Horse, and an expedient new critic of earmarks. John McCormack searches for something good to say about Kirk — it’s thin gruel, but here it is.

    So: Kirk is Lame.

    His Democrat opponent Alexi Giannoulias is Lamer.

    Are you kidding?! Thomas/Regulus would be all over this candidate, like a cheap suit! He’d be perfect for their LOTE VOTE LOVE BOAT! How can you possibly dis GOP quality such as this?!

  36. #36
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:59 am, no2pcbs1 said:

    illinois is drowning in mediocrity, nothing new but one would think someone would attempt to change what is obvious, that only the most incompetent politicians are being elected. this might say more about the voters than the politicians themselves.

  37. #37
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:17 am, DBNinKY said:

    …Rep. Kirk promised Illinois voters he wouldn’t pander the same way if held higher office.

    On the bright side, maybe Kirk means it. Perhaps removing the pressure of having to seek reelection every two years, in a heavily Democrat state, will lead him to side with conservatives in the Senate more often.

    At any rate, better Kirk than Alexi Giannoulias -

  38. #38
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 am, swmbo said:

    The people of Illinois have shown they want to continue living in a leftist hell. If they enjoy the cesspool they can have it.

    NO WE DON’T !! But until we can figure out how to get dead conservatives to vote multiple times we are stuck with it.

  39. #39
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:29 am, battleaxe said:

    Why is there a city job paying $146,000?

  40. #40
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 am, swmbo said:

    Why is there a city job paying $146,000?

    I don’t know, but I’ll bet I’m qualified.
    If I can borrow Blago’s plane for the commute, I’ll take it.

  41. #41
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:35 am, handymom said:

    I voted for Mark Kirk. He will win this seat for Republicans. There is no way a more conservative candidate would come close. I think he will vote closer to conservative ideals than everyone here is suggesting; and more than many existing republican senators already in office.

    For governor, I voted for a real conservative, but I knew I was throwing that vote away. I was right.

  42. #42
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:38 am, mytake said:

    Illinois needs a third party. How do we help them become part of the movement?

  43. #43
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:41 am, mytake said:

    I guess Kirk is an old style politician and will move right if the situation demands it. It just hurts to have to give in to this. Politics sucks.

  44. #44
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 am, Southpaw said:

    On February 2nd, 2010 at 11:41 pm, AmericaFirst said:
    So we go find an Independent and donate our money to the third party (I). Show me what you got Illinois.

    Paging Tea Party candidate. Insurrection time.

  45. #45
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:57 am, swmbo said:

    Illinois needs to become the Headquaters of the Tea Party. Chicago and East St. Louis have no reason to desire a clean up because they are getting what they want. A free ride. All of us in the middle need serious help to clean up these cesspools.

  46. #46
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:57 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    WEll, if I was in Illinois, I’d vote for the lesser of two evils. Like I did voting Hillary in the Texas primary because McLame had already won the GOP nomination, and then voting McPain in November.

    Glad I don’t live in Illinois.

  47. #47
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:08 am, swede said:

    mytake said:
    I guess Kirk is an old style politician and will move right if the situation demands it.

    Or not. He could just as easily cave to Democritters in return for a boatload of goodies for “Sweet Home Chicago”. It’s the Chicago way.

  48. #48
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:09 am, swmbo said:

    Illinois is one of the most beautiful places in the world to live. We have it all !

    We just need a new broom to come in and spruce us up politically.

  49. #49
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:19 am, beenthere said:

    RNC CHAIRMAN MICHAEL STEELE STATEMENT ON ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VICTORIES
    WASHINGTON – Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Michael Steele released the following statement today:
    “After tremendous primary victories . . .

    This is why many people fear clowns.

  50. #50
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:19 am, flenser said:

    Bad news from Indiana.

    Former Fort Wayne resident Dan Coats, a member of Congress for 18 years and most recently a Washington lobbyist, is forming an exploratory committee to run for the Republican Senate nomination and a chance to challenge Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind.

    A senior Republican official said the announcement is not likely to be made until after the Super Bowl this weekend and that the national Republican Party has promised help in getting the necessary 4,500 signatures to make him eligible for the primary ballot. He would have less than three weeks to obtain 500 signatures in each of the state’s nine congressional districts.

    Whenever the “national Republican Party” sticks it’s nose into the primaries, its never on the side of good candidates. So without knowing anything about Coats I already dislike him a lot. And do we really need yet another lobbyist in DC as a lawmaker?

  51. #51
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:19 am, Mister P said:

    Kirk told my brother that he cut a deal with Obama, so the Chicago Democratic Machine guarenteed his nomination. It was in exchange for his vote on the so-called Stimulus.

  52. #52
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:25 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    (Kirk) voted the way he did on this issue because, “It was in the narrow interests of my congressional district. “But,” he quickly added as some in the Republican crowd booed, “as your (senator), representing the entire state of Illinois, I would vote ‘no’ against the bill coming up, and that’s because we are (a) manufacturing, agriculture and coal state.”

    That’s some might fine tap-dancing there.
    Translation: I will vote with my RINO heart. But, I will pander to conservative crowds to get elected.

  53. #53
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    The Chicago Corrupticans and Corrupticrats have nominated their corrupt candidates. I would not vote for either. There is no lesser evil, just evil.

  54. #54
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:39 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    DO NOT GIVE MONEY TO THE RNC OR NRSC, it will go to liberals who will vote with the communists to finish the job of transforming your country into the People’s Paradise.

  55. #55
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:40 am, Send_Me said:

    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:25 am, Dexter Alarius said:
    Translation: I will vote with my RINO heart. But, I will pander to conservative crowds to get elected.

    Translation: I’ll keep the “R” next to my name in order to ensure the “conservative” vote, regardless of how many hold their noses when pulling the lever.
    “Conservatives” are like the girl who’d rather stay with the guy who beats her than take a chance with the less popular man of character on whose shoulder she’s always crying.

  56. #56
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “Conservatives” are like the girl who’d rather stay with the guy who beats her than take a chance with the less popular man of character on whose shoulder she’s always crying.

    A bad dating experience in High School?
    Would you like to talk about it? I’m here for you.

  57. #57
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm, rightisright said:

    who’s side is the GOP on anyway…oh never mind, I know, just thought they may have seen the light…a glimps of light? I can dream can’t I. Steele said if you don’t like him fire him…well, what has to be done to fire his leftist butt?

  58. #58
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 1:12 pm, cheapseat said:

    half a cup of water to a man dying of thirst is better than no water. the facts of our country have been for decades now a three way split, conservative, moderate, and liberal with the moderates swinging back and forth.

  59. #59
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 2:10 pm, seamusmeboy said:

    A third party candidate can get on the ballot. I worked as an election judge yesterday, and by and large whether they chose a Democratic or a Republican ballot, they were all holding their nose. The very real and palpable feeling from the voters (which would constitute a core of those that always vote)is that they were looking to remove the idiots from office. They want to vote, but they only had the choices in front of them. A “Brown” could succeed here, if he or she (personally I think a she has a better chance)were to put in the time and effort as Brown did!

  60. #60
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 2:39 pm, Send_Me said:

    On February 3rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:
    A bad dating experience in High School?
    Would you like to talk about it? I’m here for you.

    Thanks, buddy, but after years of counseling and electroshock therapy *twitch* I got over it…
    /sarc

  61. #61
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 5:10 pm, cubbiegal said:

    seamusboy
    I was a judge yesterday as well.
    The Dems outnumbered the Reps at least 2-1 and seemed delighted to take a “D” ballot.
    Btw-I refuse to vote for NARAL’s favorite Republican this Nov.
    As far as the senate race is concerned, I’ll either vote libertarian or sit on my hands.

  62. #62
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 5:14 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    Compliments to Send_Me, Post #61. I agree with you on this. These days, it seems to me that only corrupt people seem to seek political office.

    Sorry you had to seek counseling since you seem so level-headed, and about that electro-shock therapy, well…..

  63. #63
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 5:21 pm, MtsEdge said:

    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 am, GladzKravtz said:
    Can Hughes now run as an independent?
    If he does, I’ll send money. I wonder what the deadline is to get on a ballot up there.

    That sounds like a good idea. I’ve been supporting out-of-state candidates, too, ever since McClintock ran against Schwarzenegger.

  64. #64
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 5:26 pm, MtsEdge said:

    GladzKravtz, looks like filing deadline was Nov. 2009 for 2010 race. Wonder whether he could still run even if he didn’t win the party’s primary, or perhaps he could be a write-in?

  65. #65
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 6:19 pm, seamusmeboy said:

    Cubbiegal:

    My precinct was about opposite of yours. Almost 2-1 Repubs over Dems. Only about 23% voted. Only had 2 greens and 2 non-partisan. I’m with you on the senate race. My pick for Gov didn’t go well either, Adam Andrzejewski. I will have to do more research on the Gov race before I vote. My only bright spot was in my district (11) where Adam Kinzinger got the Repub nod. Voting out Halvorson, is a major goal.

  66. #66
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 6:49 pm, pdigaudio said:

    A vote for a 3rd party guarantees the election of Alexi Giannoulias, who will be a reliable rubber-stamp vote for the Obama agenda. Say what you will about Kirk’s vote on cap-and-tax — he was wrong and needs to address this head on with his base — as a U.S. Senator he’d be right probably 75% of the time. I can live with that. Like Massachusetts, it may be the best we can do in a navy blue state like Illinois.

  67. #67
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:28 pm, cubbiegal said:

    Even in Illinois we could do better than someone who supports infanticide!
    Kirk is NO Scott Brown.

  68. #68
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:33 pm, ChicagoRobb said:

    Although I no longer live in Illinois, i know a fair amount about Kirk. His district encompasses the North Shore (some of the wealthiest towns in the country) and a naval base as well. This is not an easy district for the GOP today (I think it used to be Rumsfeld’s seat along time ago)Although not a conservative by any means, he is not a liberal. He is pro-abortion but I think with limits and marginally pro-2nd amendment. Against Giannulis, he will look like Reagan.

  69. #69
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:55 pm, jkstewart2 said:

    I held my nose and voted for McCain. I don’t think I can hold my nose again… Kirk is a liberal creep. He voted for Cap&Tax. He is either a moron or he is corrupt. He’s the perfect poster boy of the Republicans. No doubt the national Republican pukes will shower money on this despicable pandering politician. But it won’t be my money. Never again for a progressive…

  70. #70
    On February 3rd, 2010 at 9:56 pm, cubbiegal said:

    ChicagoRobb
    Kirk received an 100% rating from NARAL.
    He’s radically pro-abortion.
    He received a D or an F from the NRA.
    I’m against litmus tests for GOP candidates and would gladly vote for a moderate. Mark Kirk is NO moderate!

  71. #71
    On February 4th, 2010 at 8:26 am, chilloutyo said:

    I would always vote for the lesser of two evils. How do all of you who DIDN’T vote for McCain feel about the wonderful Obama administration. Thanks people…hoping you are enjoying the results of your ideological purity. Your children and grandchildren will pay for your ideological pique in 2008!

  72. #72
    On February 4th, 2010 at 9:51 am, cubbiegal said:

    My son-who will be casting his first vote in the 2012 ‘general’-is seeing that there are some principles that you don’t compromise. One of those principles is that you don’t vote for someone that supports infanticide.
    I was actively campaigning for McCain BEFORE he picked Gov. Palin as his running mate. I have no problem with moderates. I’d vote for a Scott Brown-or even a Susan Collins in the general.
    Mark Kirk in neither of those.

  73. #73
    On February 4th, 2010 at 10:00 am, yohannbiimu said:

    On February 3rd, 2010 at 11:40 am, Send_Me said:

    “Conservatives” are like the girl who’d rather stay with the guy who beats her than take a chance with the less popular man of character on whose shoulder she’s always crying.

    This is a better explanation of the Black vote for Democrats, who, if you poll them, have a majority of conservative attitudes, but continue voting for politicians who continue to throw programs at them that destroy their communities and families.

    Why? Because the media and their “leaders” tell them to.

  74. #74
    On February 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am, Send_Me said:

    On February 4th, 2010 at 8:26 am, chilloutyo said:
    How do all of you who DIDN’T vote for McCain feel about the wonderful Obama administration.

    I see that you are still under the delusion that folks who voted for 3rd party candidates cost McCain the election. Obama clobbered McCain by around 8.5 million votes. Combined, all of the other candidates besides Obama/McCain brought in a whopping 1,643,758 votes.

  75. #75
    On February 4th, 2010 at 11:27 am, Send_Me said:

    Here, in case you don’t take my word for it.

  76. #76
    On February 4th, 2010 at 12:57 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    On February 4th, 2010 at 11:24 am, Send_Me said:

    On February 4th, 2010 at 8:26 am, chilloutyo said:
    How do all of you who DIDN’T vote for McCain feel about the wonderful Obama administration.

    I see that you are still under the delusion that folks who voted for 3rd party candidates cost McCain the election. Obama clobbered McCain by around 8.5 million votes. Combined, all of the other candidates besides Obama/McCain brought in a whopping 1,643,758 votes.

    This is a moot point, as far as whether things would be any better if McCain were president or not. I would maintain that things would pretty much be the same, because the legislature would be controlling the political agenda, and McCain is such a good “bipartisan” dimwit that he’d be more than happy to allow it all to pass. The only difference (probably) is that the spending would be a trillion or two less than it currently is. Also, we’d be getting more talk by the Dems and the media about why Republicans (and conservatism) are bad for America, and why Obama was the best choice.

    I for one think that it’s better having the lefties controlling everything, and letting them stumble and bumble their way in trying to fulfill promises like “jobs” and “the economy,” because this bunch is doing everything that they can to wreck the economy and kill job growth. It’s difficult and people will suffer for it, but it HAD to happen this way. I mean, how else will people finally wake up and realize why these progressives are evil? How will they know that Democrats hate them until they actually are experiencing being punished and slapped around like a red-headed stepchild by them?

  77. #77
    On February 5th, 2010 at 10:49 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Ooohh baby!

    Let’s all line up and vote LOTE yet again!

    Phht.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  78. #78
    On February 5th, 2010 at 10:54 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Republicans don’t want to change “conservatives”. They only want their votes. Often times it merely takes a Republican to say “see, I’m conservative” in order to achieve that goal.

    This is happening less and less with the Tea Party movement taking hold, but it doesn’t take a long look to see that you’re pretty much correct about this.

    Just look at how I’m treated just because I refused to vote for McCain.

    These people decided up front that they neither needed nor wanted my vote, but b!+ch at me anyway because they didn’t get it.

    Go figure.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  79. #79
    On February 5th, 2010 at 10:59 am, rightwingrocker said:

    On February 3rd, 2010 at 10:38 am, mytake said:

    Illinois needs a third party. How do we help them become part of the movement?

    The already are.

    I wonder why this didn’t get much attention, even here.

    It’s beyond time to get this sort of thing up and running. We must do it NOW.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  80. #80
    On February 5th, 2010 at 11:01 am, rightwingrocker said:

    It just hurts to have to give in to this. Politics sucks.

    So don’t give in to it.

    Isn’t that a big part of what the Tea Party movement is all about?

    Come on. Stand up! It’s your country too ya know!

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  81. #81
    On February 5th, 2010 at 11:02 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Illinois needs to become the Headquaters of the Tea Party.

    As the site of Continental Congress 2009, I’d say it could already be!

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  82. #82
    On February 5th, 2010 at 11:06 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Steele said if you don’t like him fire him…well, what has to be done to fire his leftist butt?

    Hopefully you mean Steele’s leftist butt.

    He hasn’t done squat to bring his party into the Age of Enlightenment.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  83. #83
    On February 5th, 2010 at 11:13 am, rightwingrocker said:

    How do all of you who DIDN’T vote for McCain feel about the wonderful Obama administration.

    I actually feel pretty good about it.

    He’s been quite the wake-up call for this country, and it’s pretty clear that McCain would have been a dancer like Clinton to avoid the likes of the tea Party movement.

    Can you honestly tell me that Americans standing up for the Constitution and the Founders and taking it upon themselves to properly educate themselves about the same is a bad thing? Can you say that a McCain presidency would have been worth sacrificing this extremely important and disgustingly overdue event in American history?

    In the long run, Barack Obama may be the best thing that ever happened to the United States of America. He’s brought about a second American Revolution that will restore the ideals of the first!

    Absent a candidate winning who would consciously try to do that (like the guy who did get my vote), I’ll take the guy who does it by mistake over the guy who will keep the country sleeping any day!

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

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