Courting Disaster hits #9 on NYTimes best-seller list
Marc Thiessen’s must-read book, Courting Disaster, skyrocketed to #9 on the NYTimes best-seller list this coming week.
Thiessen has relentlessly exposed how the Left and Obama are sabotaging all the effective intelligence-gathering programs that the Bush administration created to prevent jihadi attacks after 9/11 — and how media propagandists are helping them.
Here’s one of his latest investigative op-eds, “A Tale of Two Terrorists,” on how the Obama administration defended the lengthy interrogation of one terror suspect days before the Christmas bomber was recklessly and hastily Mirandized.
Thiessen’s whistle-blowing work can be found here — and he has been spreading the word on cable TV.
No wonder President Obama wants you to turn it off.
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Turn on PJTV for Glenn Reynolds’ interview with Thiessen right here!
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My husband is reading this book now and he says it is great. Thanks for the information on the book Michelle.
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I do worry about anti-intelligence Dems using incidents as that accidental Peruvian plane incident to besmirch and rein back the very agency created to protect us in a very harsh ruthless world. I wish there was a public memorial for these shadow warriors.
James Greenidge
Queens NY
When I was in college, I got pulled over for a speeding ticket. The officer searched my care (I stupidly let him thinking I didn’t have anything to hide). Well, he found a marijuana seed.
That was enough to arrest me, handcuff me, and take me downtown to the police station.
I was interrogated for 2 hours. They told me how they could mess up my ‘permanent record’, how they could kick me out of college, and they made sure to tell me that I could make things easier for myself if I just told them where I got the seed from.
2 hours. I wasn’t a threat. I didn’t have information that might be important to national security. 2 hours for a seed. Maybe I should have had a bomb and said allah akbar.
The Obama Administration
The most closed-door, deceitful, lying, information hiding administration….. EVER.
It would be funny that the Left and the Dems are “anti-intelligence” if it weren’t for the fact that it’s not funny at all.
We’ve got to get these jackasses out of power before they either kill us or bankrupt us all – not necessarily in that order.
Let the prosecutions begin.
There is more than one to skin a cat, and there is more than one way to deal with terrorism. Pres Bush had his methods and policies, and Pres Obama has his methods and policies.
As for all the disruption of planned terror attacks, epsecially in the case of the Library Towers, where are the captured or killed terrorists?
And which methods do you think are more effective? Just curious.
Now, now NJ-Aviator Obama never said who his administration would be transparent for. He just said that he would have the most transparent administration ever and if the terror trials occur in civilian court I am sure he and Holder will be completely transparent for the benefit of the defendant.
You poor deluded naive child. Sure, let’s point out to the world the minute details of how terror attacks are prevented just so Ziggy can be assured it’s all not a bunch of political granstanding.
The Toyota boondoggle and consequences to the US Market – Auto and Otherwise? FBN linked.
Toyota Silver Lining.
Dear Taliban we have the repair fix for your Toyota – shim this.
The one that produces the greatest number of provable results.
I’d settle for the one that produces the least dead Americans. But that’s just me.
And how do you get “provable results” when the people providing them are liars and cheats? Just look at the statistics coming out of this administration on just about everything. I wouldn’t trust any of them to tell the truth about anything! Just look at how they changed the story on the Fruit of the Boom Bomber. First, he was mirandized after 50 minutes and he lawyered up. Now, all of a sudden, he has talked a lot more and given good information. They are making that up! As for Bush’s methods…we weren’t attacked during the entire remainder of his administration after 9/11. Now, under Obama, we have had a number of total screw-ups, resulting in deaths and one very near miss on an airplane. You be the judge.
These days you’d probably get tased, too. Sadly, I don’t think it’s possible to be the lad of the free and the land of the secure simultaneously, and both sides of the aisle have opted for the “big government is watching” option.
Nope. Not looking for details. I just want to know that what was done had results. I am not particularly interested the ‘how’.
And, I never suggested it was political grandstanding, although it is interesting that you drew that conclusion.
If these various plots were disrupted, where are the killed or captured terrorists?
Lackawana Soccer Players – captured, tried and convicted.
Virginia Paintballers – captured, tried and convicted.
Shoe Bomber – captured, tried and convicted.
South Carolina pipe bombers – captured, tried and convicted.
NJ pizza guy – captured, tried and convicted.
You are welcome to trust someone who says ‘trust me’. I on the other hand would like to see a modicum of proof.
Who is naive?
OK. I’ll add that I’d also like the one that produces the most dead terrorists.
I see, you not only eat the sausage, you want to see how it’s made.
Not all terrorist disruptions require arrests and or bodies, sometimes it can be something as simple as detaining a ship carrying cargo. Your request for proof can jeopardize the defensive network. That’s why these thing require military expidition for security and safety and not agencies geared toward civilian conflicts. Two different and disparate requirements for the benefit of all.
Then you must be willing to accept the concept of secrecy.
Hugh Hewitt has been raving about this book. He has such great guests and is always interesting, it’s too bad he has such little time for each interview.
On the other hand, what does Mike Gallager waste a half hour of air time this morning rambling on about? The Arizona guru sweat lodge story. Yawn.
Well, you hit the nail on the head with that one. Where are the provable results from the Library Towers plot? We were provided this information without proof. I am not calling anyone a liar or a cheat, with regard to the Library Towers. You are welcome to do so. I would just like proof. And, please stop blaming Pres Bush.
OK. I am of the mind that you should trust but verify. And, I would like verification that the Library Towers plot was actually disrupted. Presenting killed or captured plotters would go a long to establish this fact.
LOL. How do you know that they are making that up?
I won’t make unsubstantiated assertions, but I will wait for verification. Yep, I want to see proof of the underwear bomber’s talking in the form of killed or captured terrorists.
And, the story is not changing, it is evolving. The new element in the story is that his family has been brought to the US to get him to talk.
Ummm, the shoe bomber happened in December of that year, not to mention the anthrax scare, and the attacks on our allies that are in effect an attack on us.
I am uncomfortable ‘keeping score’ but let’s not ignore the facts and avoid making unsubstantiated assertions.
Nope. Not with regard to terrorism. I just want to see the end result, killed or captured terrorist, when we are told that plots have been disrupted.
OK. Then there is the cargo ship that is the proof that the plot has been disrupted. Where is the proof that the Library Towers plot has been disrupted?
How? The capture and conviction of Jose Padilla did not impact or ‘jeopardize the defensive network’.
When it is necessary to use the military, then use the military. When civilian resources work (NJ pizza guy, VA paintballers, NY soccer players, etc.) then use civilian resources. And, what ever is used, there should be an end result of killed, or captured, terrorists. I am uncomfortable with being told ‘trust me’.
Is it naive to trust someone without proof?
Problem is, a lot of the results you’re looking for are a long way from here – like dead al Qaeda in Yemen or Pakistan, for instance. Our intel community isn’t going to indulge your vanity by revealing how they got particular information or who gave it to them, thus shutting off their own intel spigot.
zzzzzzzz…I have a question for you! Are you a school teacher? The reason I ask is that you come across (to me, anyway) as someone who talks to the rest of us like we are children and uses a “lecture” approach quite often. It can be a bit off-putting. Just my opinion.
Of course, if Eric Holder had his way, that information would be on the front page of the New York Slimes.
Absolutely. There is nothing wrong with secrecy that protects methods. But, why the secrecy in not producing the end result, killed or captured terrorists?
Are you comfortable being told, ‘trust me’?
Are we told about drone attacks? Yes. Are we told how many are killed? Yes. Are we told the details of how we came to launch a drone attack upon a target other than we have uncovered intelligence? No.
Sometimes people just turn up dead. You don’t necessarily want them to know we have an A team in their neighborhood. They have other enemies, you know.
If we go around telling them we have Special Forces guys within arms reach of their hideouts, we’ll lose our best guys.
Who’s naive?
I appreciate the pivot to Yemen and Pakistan, but I would like to know more about the results of the Library Towers plot.
As for Yemen and Pakistan, we do know of the end results. Yes, we are not told how the information and intelligence came into our hands, and I am not asking or interested in that. I only want to know that the information and intelligence proved valuable. And yes, we are told that there have been drone attacks and that terrorists have been killed. That makes me happy, knowing that terrorists have been killed.
Does it make you happy?
Michelle – Time perhaps for an updated reprint of “Invasion: How America Still Welcomes Terrorists, Criminals, and Other Foreign Menaces to Our Shores”
Would be interesting to see what, if anything, Washington has learned since ’02 – and more to the point how ObaMao is reversing whatever gains have been made.
I am going to demonstrate how easy this is, and answer your question.
No, I am not a teacher.
Off putting or not, those are your feelings and I have no control over them. However, I would suggest you be honest with yourself. When you avoid answering questiions, or fail to acknowledge facts, that will feed on you and create anxiety. Kind of like a student or child who is caught with their hand in the cookie jar. And, continues to deny it, or says ‘it wasn’t me’ though there are crumbs on their shirt.
I am not lecturing merely giving my opinion. It is only lecturing when you do not engage in the give and take, by not answering questions. I am not afraid of being wrong. In fact it is liberating to acknowledge a good point. The more you deny the validity of something worthwhile with obsfucation, avoidance and tangential arguments, the more anxiety it creates in you.
Look closely at this thread. I have no problem agreeing with people when they make a point. In post #19 bcat mentions secrecy, and in post #26, I say absolutely.
Again, your feelings are your own, and I have no control over them.
H8R!
Who said anything about Special Forces disrupting the Library Towers plot? The Bush Administration never said how the Library Towers plot was disrupted. You are making assumptions not based in fact, or on any evidence. The reality is, there is no evidence that the Library Towers plot was disrupted other than a few people saying so.
You are creating a scenario to justify a non-proven conclusion.
The person who accepts ‘trust me’. The person who is prepared to trust but not verify. Are you that person?
Wow! Got it. You are a shrink. Otherwise, why the lecture? Seriously, you lecture everyone. I don’t need your advice on feelings, so knock it off. You come across as a prick when you do that. It is way out of line.
swede said:
Michelle – Time perhaps for an updated reprint of “Invasion: How America Still Welcomes Terrorists, Criminals, and Other Foreign Menaces to Our Shores”
ME:Yes, Obama is still letting them in. But so did Bush. Neither one was very honest. Certainly, neither followed the Constitution. But I’ve learned the Constitution really matters little to either Party.
I’ve been reading a lot of books in the last several months on the Founders, Early American History, Lincoln, The War For Southern Independence, the Constitution, etc. What amazes me is how little I learned in my Government Schooling, and how much actual history we are not taught, and the “Historians” leave out.
I just finished a book by Pastor Charles L.C. Minor called The Real Lincoln from 1904. It’s all Northern Sources, and it’s amazing, as were Thomas DiLorenzo’s two books on Lincoln.
Now I’m reading The Politically Incorrect Guide To American History. I’ve read several of these Guides Regnery has published.
If people actually understood the Constitution Properly, they would be hard pressed to have anything good to say about 99% of our Presidents. I’m down to only really being fond of Thomas Jefferson at this point. Take Care.
I am amidst reading this eye-opening book. Excellently written. When taken in conjunction of the past few days Congressional testimony expecting a terrorist attack WILL occur withing the next 6 months, new doubts arise over Obama’s propensity to keep the American citizenry safe.
I am not about to declare that Obama wants onther terrorist episode, but his and the his administration’s actions are giving me serious doubt to the issue. Yes, contrary to what he proclaims and contradicts himself the following teleprompter utterance…it is about him (cue in I, Me, Me, Mine). The legal crucifiction and hobbling of our intelligence personnel while concurrently coddling terrorists must cease.
Then again, if there is a successful terrorist action against the United States (not a man created disaster), will the progressives and tranzis use that as excuse to end run the Constitution and our Natural Rights?
Please remind me… How is Nancy Pelosi’s book doing in sales?
Glenn Beck is working on some documentaries on the history of our country. Sounds like they are going to be amazing (even if he does say so himself
) He plans to educate the last two generations of government-schooled, brainwashed people who don’t know even the basics of how our republic was formed. That has to be the first step in getting our country back!
This hasn’t been said in awhile, but it is becoming obvious that zzzzzzzz is a garden variety troll-
So don’t feed him, ignore his lectures and he will eventually go away since his audience has been taken away.
GSP
“Dissent is Patriotic”
Nope, not a shrink.
And, if you can’t handle the answer, don’t ask the question. When you can give your opinion about feeling like a child and saying things like off-putting, I can give my opinion, too.
I am not here to hold your hand.
When you don’t address any comments I make to what MM posts, I will not address anything you say. But, when you do address somethng I post to what MM says, you can be assured that I will respond to you.
Engage me, and I will engage you. Grow up, you are not a child. Ummm, are you?
Define ‘troll’.
Is that anything like someone coming late to a discussion throwing in their two cents about those participating in a discussion and not addressing the actual topic?
Troll: (trōl) n.
1. Someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
2. Someone with an online ID with an inordinate number of z’s in it.
Perhaps, analogous to how Superman could get rid of Mr. Mxyzptlk, if we get him to type his name backwardssss.s.s.s.ss.ssss.ss…, he’ll disappear?
Though the question was not directed at you, thank you for answering.
” . . . off-topic messages in an online community . . . or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.”
Since gunslingerpatriot posted comment #38 which does not address the topic of this thread, “Courting Disaster” the book, that makes gunslingerpatriot a troll because the comment is off-topic and not on-topic.
Very well, as you have defined it, gunslingerpatriot is a troll.
Get the whole definition in context ZZZZ(yawn)man.
That’s you dude! Left yourself wide open. Nobody wants an echo chamber here. Keep up the challenges, but less about you and more topical dialog would be nice.
Swede, I guess at least some of those those guys who in high school went out of their way to be annoying are still with us.
Hambali was the southeast asia operative that was plotting the Library Towers plot. He was also the guy that masterminded the Bali nightclub bombing. He is currently in GITMO until he is released in Washington DC following his aquittal. Perhaps then you can give him a call, meet for lunch, and ask him what happened to the other guys.
Sound advice and I will try to follow it. Sometimes we get goaded into answering, and sometimes it feels good to tell a troll to STFU. But I will try to resist.
Here is an excellent article about the library Towers plot and “what happened” to the people involved. The author is a respected expert in the field and not a political operative.
Library Towers plot
For those who are into facts.
Do you agree? Yes or no?
Very well. Gunslingerpatriot solicited an emotional response from me. Was that the intent? I don’t know. If you can’t establish the intent then how can it be said anyone is a troll, or not?
Is it my intent to solicit an emotional response? Nope. Therefore, absent the full definition of troll as provided by you, no one can be a troll unless they reveal their intent. Correct?
I agree, there should be less about me and more about the subject matter. Try telling that to people who launch perjoratives, like gunslingerpatriot, who take the messenger to task vice discussing the topic of the thread.
Thank you for acknowledging that there are challenges. I just wish more of them were addressed.
Interesting and informative link. Yep, Hambali and others were arrested. Conspicuously absent from the article is the fact that anyone was tried, convicted and sentenced for the plot to bring down the Library Towers.
Again, we are only being told that a plot was thwarted. We are only being told that people were arrested.
The other thing that jumped out at me was the quote attributed to one of the plotters. He used the word ‘probably’ (it’s on the second page). Admittedly, my pointing this out is thin because these guys operate in cells and often lack full knowledge of all plans.
The ‘bojinka plot’ out of England was mentioned in the article, too. The people who were arrested for that had no passports and no tickets to fly. Not saying there was no plot, just that it amounted to a discussion group about what they would like to do given the chance. Yep, call it a thwarted plot if you want. (It equals the thwarted plot of the Florida Haitian immigrants who wanted to bring down the Sears Tower in Chicago.) At a minimum there was certainly a conspiracy by my definition, and hopefully yours. But, how many people were convicted? In the bojinka plot they had to release people from jail for lack of evidence for crying out loud.
And, that brings me back to Hambali and the others. Where are they? In prison? Why aren’t we being told?
The next time anyone discusses the Library Towers plot being thwarted, my hope is that they are challenged and are asked if the plotters have been captured, convicted and sentenced to prison.
We will all agree that the terrorists want to do damage to us and they should be stopped. Once stopped, shouldn’t we know they are no longer a threat? Yep, we can be told, but ‘trust me’ doesn’t work on me.
Trust but verify. Do you agree? Yes or no?
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Errah If Osama was to ride an A Bomb into the Capitol (Slim Pickens style), it would take Obama a week before he would respond and call it a man made act of unhappiness against capitalism.
Poster A: I don’t believe terrorist plots were foiled. Trust but verify!11!!1
Poster B: There’s limits to what can be revealed without jeopardizing agents in the field and their operations.
Poster A: I wanna know who was arrested. Plots were foiled, people must be arrested. Trust but verify!11!!!!1
Poster C: See this article about people arrested for alleged plot.
Poster A: We got names. But where are they being detained? Why aren’t we told? Trust but verify!!!!1!
Whisky Tango Foxtrot!
Get over yourself. No amount of information will convince you as you’ve already made up your mind. If you’re so keen on verifying, go join up with the CIA. You’ll get to find out whatever the truth is then.