Sunday open thread

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 7, 2010 09:53 AM

Busy with family. Took the kids skiing this weekend. Weigh in on Sarah Palin, the Tea Party movement, Super Bowl, the Beltway snow freakout, and anything else on your minds. I’ll share my thoughts later.

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  1. #201
    On February 7th, 2010 at 5:58 pm, frontierguy said:

    The truth is we cannot have another primary like we had in the last election. Obama supporters are going to do their best to get us stuck with a bad candidate like they did with McCain (the candidate polled who was least likely to beat Obama). The fact that Palin is sponsoring McCain is enough for me not to trust her, and we have to look out for people like ZigZag, who change their party on primary voting day and vote for whoever the biggest RINO is to ensure that Obama keeps the pressure on to cause huge chaos in our country, the one he and his wife love to hate.

    I would seriously consider declaring myself a Democrat just to help Hillary challenge Obama for the chance to run in 2012. If nothing for the entertainment of watching Democrats eat each other.

    The tea parties can have their “conventions”, but the real thing about it is the people want the same things: Small government, less taxes, stop rewarding bad behavior and punishing success, strong defense. We know what we want.

  2. #202
    On February 7th, 2010 at 5:58 pm, Brian Roastbeef said:

    Go Colts.

    That is all.

  3. #203
    On February 7th, 2010 at 5:58 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    what ticks me off is there were other areas hit by Katrina just about as hard and they rarely make the news. I know I saw the damage in MS myself…

  4. #204
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:12 pm, jangar said:

    What the Heck. Turned on the pregame show for the SuperBowl and Obama is doing a live interview with Kouric. Is the One trying to take advantage of the SuperBowl for politics?

    He has to provide a counter balance to the Tebows’ message, regardless of the issue.

    As far as answering ziggy’s questions, forget it. Zig never answers anyone elses questions…just talks in circles, like Obama.

  5. #205
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:13 pm, BOB said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 2:34 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    BECOMING president is too far when unqualified for BEING president. Americans would never have elected Obama had they known his agenda. The elites knew. His cult appeal only to him only took him as far as becoming president. Americans now know they fell for a snake charmer.

    Maybe it’s just me, but when I try to come up with a “complement” for Obama, it’s that he is trying to do what he said he would do during the campaign.

    I don’t see a president who has significally changed from what he said he was going to do, with the exception of “openness”, it was all there as plain as day…….it was why I immediately detested him.

  6. #206
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:16 pm, graysonret said:

    Commercials, occasionally interrupted by a football game.

  7. #207
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:17 pm, babbledabble said:

    Totally O.T.
    Anyone here live in Colorado? I lived there for 8 years & loved it. Then foolishly I moved back to the Midwest where I was born. I really want to go back but it seems to have become hideously expensive. Doubt I could ever afford it now. (I lived in both Denver & Colorado Springs.)

  8. #208
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:21 pm, floridaobserver said:

    This will keep you all up at night:

    The communist goals were entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69).

    1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of “moral strength.”

    4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

    5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites.

    6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

    7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

    8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN.

    9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

    10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN.

    11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo).

    12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

    13) Do away with loyalty oaths.

    14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office.

    15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US.

    16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

    17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

    18) Gain control of all student newspapers.

    19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

    20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

    21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

    22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings,” substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

    23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

    24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

    25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

    26) Present homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as “normal, natural, and healthy.”

    27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”

    28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

    29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man”.

    31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of “the big picture”: Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

    33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

    34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

    36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

    37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

    38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

    39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

    40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

    41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

    42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a “united force” to solve economic, political, or social problems.

    43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

    44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.

    45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

  9. #209
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:28 pm, jangar said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:17 pm, babbledabble said:

    Totally O.T.
    Anyone here live in Colorado?

    Lived there (Golden) for 26 years, left it 7 years ago to return home down south. Never looked back. The only thing I miss are the restaurants.

  10. #210
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:33 pm, jangar said:

    floridaobserver said:

    This will keep you all up at night:

    Nope, not me. These are the days we live in. World Government is just around the corner…and so is a world war, the beast, false prophet…

  11. #211
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:40 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 5:09 pm, flenser said: #186

    No, what he actually said was that he’d invade Pakistan.

    Nope. He said ‘act’ and here is a link from MM’s blog that quotes his exact words.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2007/08/01/barack-obama-macho-man/

    And he was not specific about his “hows”. or even honest about his “whats”.

    Correct, he was not specific about his ‘how’ at the time, though we do know now what he meant by ‘act’. He did not mean ‘invade’ he meant drone attacks. As for the ‘what’ I am sure we can all agree, it means to kill terrorists. Because, that is ‘what’ happens when you order drone attacks.

    One of his specifics was that he would close Gitmo.

    Yes, he said that. And, yes it has not happened yet.

    But this “Barry Obama, a man of his wword” meme sounds entertaining, so please continue.

    Meet me halfway and cut and paste where I said that?

    I’ve got no problem agreeing with you when you are correct. Do you have a problem agreeing with me when I am correect?

  12. #212
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:46 pm, swede said:

    babbledabble said:
    I really want to go back but it seems to have become hideously expensive. Doubt I could ever afford it now. (I lived in both Denver & Colorado Springs.)

    Those are probably the two hiest cost of living areas. My sister lives in Fort Collins and loves it there. More of a small town culture, college town and reasonable cost of living. Pretty liberal place though, and home of Baloon Boy.

  13. #213
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:48 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Happy: by your definition, you are NOT a Libertarian. You are a Republican. You vote Republican so you ARE a Republican. If Libertarians had any spine, they would vote for their own party and the GOP would be the defacto 3rd party at the ballot box just as they are in the polls.

    Had Libertarians voted Libertarian and conservatives voted Conservative, and had those Republicans who voted for Obama or stayed home or held their noses to vote for McCain had the spine to vote for the candidate they WANTED to win rather than for the guy they thought had a chance, Obama would still have won but he would have been lucky to get 40% of the vote. We would be living in a better America today had he been elected in a chaotic election where there was CLEARLY no mandate.

    It’s that kind of thinking that both parties rely on as they watch the pendulum swinging back and forth. Have the courage to vote your convictions. Vote for the candidate you would like to win, not the one you think has a chance.

  14. #214
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:52 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    BTW, how about Queen Latifah butchering “America the Beautiful”? That’s about as easy a song to sing and the lyrics are about as easy as they come. Even if she had gotten the lyrics right, her stylizing was awful. I feel sorry for the childrens chorus whose experience was ruined.

  15. #215
    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:58 pm, flenser said:

    Correct, he was not specific about his ‘how’ at the time, though we do know now what he meant by ‘act’. He did not mean ‘invade’ he meant drone attacks.

    His remarks at the time were understood to mean an invasion. Look at the press coverage of them. Here’s a typical headline. “Obama willing to invade Pakistan in al-Qaeda hunt”. Google it.

    we do know now what he meant

    Well, duh.

    Yes, he said that. And, yes it has not happened yet.

    He not only said he would do it, he gave a specific date by which he would do it. Here are your words:

    If a suggestion is made that Pres Obama lied, I am going to ask what the lie is. Is that a bias of mine, or of the person who made the assertion without being specific as to what the lie actually is? You shouldn’t have to twist all the disparate things said about a subject into a pretzel to come up with proof of a lie.

    I’m giving you that proof, and for some reason you are not wanting to hear it. It’s almost like you have a partisan axe to grind.

  16. #216
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:00 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 5:14 pm, happyscrapper said: #190

    Sorry, I must respond to the TROLL. 1. Your first sentence was a cliche. And a lecture.

    No need to apologize, though you are intellectually dishonest and are on par with swede when it come to cutting and pasting.

    From my post #167, I said -

    We can disagree without being disagreeable. And, there is the majority and the loyal opposition. Cliches, certainly, but they work for me.

    I acknowledged that I presented cliches.

    If you are going to cut and paste, at least be honest about it and do so in their entirety without mixing and matching.

    2. You have again hijacked the thread. How can you hijack an open thread, you ask?

    Nope. I have only asked questions and have been compelled to respond to those who have done everything except actually address the questions I asked.

    Believe it, or not. That is one question that I have not asked.

    By posts that are 10 pages long and are full of meaningless questions that no one is the least bit inclined to answer. They are grating and annoying like fingernails on a blackboard. But, that is just my opinion, of course.

    Certainly an exagerration for effect.

    My posts are not ten pages long, but they do include the exact words of others as they have written them, and my response to those words. I am honest that way, and wish others demonstrated the same care and respect.

  17. #217
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:02 pm, swede said:

    BTW, how about Queen Latifah butchering “America the Beautiful”? That’s about as easy a song to sing and the lyrics are about as easy as they come.

    It’s the Hopey Changey Super Bowl. America the Hipity Hop Beautiful. For the first time in her adult life MO is proud of the Super Bowl.

  18. #218
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:03 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:13 pm, BOB said:

    People weren’t listening to Obama when he was running and even if they had, he was speaking in broad brush strokes. The evidence for what he would do was all around but he wasn’t elaborating. Voters were too enthralled by his personality to listen or ask important questions. They heard what they wanted to hear.

    That is the point that I am also making about Palin. People are not listening nor asking the obvious important questions. They are enthralled by her personality and her personal story to the exclusion of all else. They are hearing what they want to hear. People may be about to make the same mistake again.

  19. #219
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:04 pm, chapoutier said:

    Re: the Tebow ad

    Really? That’s it?

    That was pretty benign.

  20. #220
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:06 pm, flenser said:

    I hear that The Who are on TV tonight. Is there some sort of sporting event also going on around then?

  21. #221
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:09 pm, swede said:

    No need to apologize, though you are intellectually dishonest and are on par with swede when it come to cutting and pasting.

    You lie!! You are deceptive, intellectually dishonest, arrogant and I’ll bet your feet stink!

    A detailed review of germane posts will difinitively reveal that I did not cut and paste anything. I merely deleted certain superfluous words in the interest of brevity, focus and clarity. And to make it sound silly.

  22. #222
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:11 pm, swede said:

    That was pretty benign.

    Exactly as advertised.

    NOW = Sound and fury signifiying nothing.

  23. #223
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:13 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    From an e-mail I just received from Tea Party Patriots:

    Why would the media show up just because a national figure was asked to speak? National figures spoke all over the country in local tea party rallies all year and in DC on September 12th.

    We believe the answer to “Why?” is this:

    There are heavy efforts underway to align us to a political party.
    There is great concern that the Tea Party Movement will become a third party.
    The media did not do their homework on this “national convention” and is now creating misinformation on the movement.

    The Tea Party Movement started because of these tactics and we will not be used like this. We are smarter than that and we will call out any one and any organization who tries to undermine the grassroots movement known as the Tea Party Movement.

    Pretty much was I’ve been saying. That Nashville convention was a fraud perpetuated by the establishment for the establishment. It should be renamed the “Palin Loves McCain Loves the Tea Party Convention”.

  24. #224
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:16 pm, jangar said:

    NOW NAG = Sound and fury signifiying nothing.

    That’s better.

  25. #225
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:23 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:58 pm, flenser said: #218

    His remarks at the time were understood to mean an invasion. Look at the press coverage of them. Here’s a typical headline. “Obama willing to invade Pakistan in al-Qaeda hunt”. Google it.

    Nope. Not by any sane person. Using the word ‘invade’ is assigning motive and meaning to the word ‘act’. There are more ways to ‘act’ than just ‘invade’. You, and headline writers, are welcome to continue to mischaracterize what is said by others. I prefer the individual’s actual quote, which you got wrong.

    He not only said he would do it, he gave a specific date by which he would do it. Here are your words:

    Yes, I have already agreed that he said it.

    I’m giving you that proof, and for some reason you are not wanting to hear it. It’s almost like you have a partisan axe to grind.

    Proof of what? I already said where I agreed with you. What more do you want?

    You cut and pasted some of my responses to you, but not the following. Why not?

    Meet me halfway and cut and paste where I said that?

    I’ve got no problem agreeing with you when you are correct. Do you have a problem agreeing with me when I am correect?

  26. #226
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:26 pm, swede said:

    Leno, Oprah and Letterman on a couch pimping CBS Late Night on the SB??!? I’m confused. Leno must have NBC by the ^^^^.

  27. #227
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:29 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:09 pm, swede said: #224

    You lie!! You are deceptive, intellectually dishonest, arrogant and I’ll bet your feet stink!

    A detailed review of germane posts will difinitively reveal that I did not cut and paste anything. I merely deleted certain superfluous words in the interest of brevity, focus and clarity. And to make it sound silly.

    Your’e kidding, right?

    You admit to editing my comments and question my saying you have difficulties being honest about cutting and pasting those comments?

    Too funny. Yep, I’m taking this as a feeble attempt at humor on your part.

  28. #228
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:32 pm, jangar said:

    Zig -

    It doesn’t matter what anyone here says to you. You’re mission remains the same…to obstruct conversation and attempt to explain your leader’s words and motives.

    Obama is ALL YOURS.

    Enjoy.

  29. #229
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:45 pm, swede said:

    Your’e kidding, right?

    The fact that you have to ask indicates what is perhaps your key problem.

    You take yourself waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously, and certainly more seriously than anyone else here.

  30. #230
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:46 pm, tbear44 said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:16 pm, graysonret said:
    Commercials, occasionally interrupted by a football game.

    No kidding! Bud Light commercials are always good :lol:

  31. #231
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:46 pm, lonewolf said:

    I can only conclude that zzyzzyg must be a masochist.
    Being an apologist for Obama and calling out every “troll”who disputes him must be stressful and exhausting.
    One wonders why he bother to frequent this forum when he could go elsewhere and find congenial, deluded fellow travellers?
    He is no more likely to make a convert here than I would on Daily Kos or Huffington.

  32. #232
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:51 pm, swede said:

    Pasadena Phil said:
    From an e-mail I just received from Tea Party Patriots:

    The fact that these people are presuming to speak for the tea party movement indicates to me that they do not speak for the tea party movement. If it is indeed “grass roots” who is making themselves the default spokesman?

    We are smarter than that and we will call out any one and any organization who tries to undermine the grassroots movement known as the Tea Party Movement.

    This threat would include, one presumes, whoever is writing this email?

  33. #233
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:57 pm, jangar said:

    lonewolf said:

    I can only conclude that zzyzzyg must be a masochist.

    As a small child he took too may z’s to the head.

  34. #234
    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:58 pm, jangar said:

    Or he’s a strange Rush fan (NOT Limbaugh).

  35. #235
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:00 pm, flenser said:

    Nope. Not by any sane person. Using the word ‘invade’ is assigning motive and meaning to the word ‘act’. There are more ways to ‘act’ than just ‘invade’.

    It’s you who cannot read.

    Barack Obama, a leading Democrat candidate in the US presidential race, provoked anger yesterday by threatening to send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists — even without permission from that country’s Government.

    Standing in front of a Stars and Stripes flag, Mr Obama said: “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again . . . If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”

    If you “act” by sending your army into another country against the wishes of that countries government, you are “invading”.

    You might as well say that Bush did not order the “invasion” of Iraq, he merely “acted”.

    You continue to “act” like a moby.

  36. #236
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:07 pm, swede said:

    Half time. The Who? Um, should have stopped singing 10 years ago. Mute button please…this is painful. Who the **** are you?

  37. #237
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:09 pm, chapoutier said:

    I love The Who. That said, this is awful.

  38. #238
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:12 pm, flenser said:

    I love The Who.

    Me too. That’s why I’m not watching them.

  39. #239
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:14 pm, chapoutier said:

    Good call flenser. Remember them in happier times.

  40. #240
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:15 pm, frontierguy said:

    Half time show is awful. There were no good musicians under 80 that had nothing to do today? The light show looked cool, bout all I would be able to say about this. CBS, worst network to host superbowl. I woulda rather have watched gay hook up network commercials for halftime.

  41. #241
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:16 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:00 pm, flenser said: #238

    Barack Obama, a leading Democrat candidate in the US presidential race, provoked anger yesterday by threatening to send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists — even without permission from that country’s Government.

    Standing in front of a Stars and Stripes flag, Mr Obama said: “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again . . . If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”

  42. #242
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:19 pm, tbear44 said:

    Halftime show? A solid C+

  43. #243
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:21 pm, swede said:

    You admit to editing my comments and question my saying you have difficulties being honest about cutting and pasting those comments?

    zzzzzzyppy – Check the posts against yours. I did not cut and paste. I used your exact words in the exact order you wrote them. I just eliminated some words in between to reach the desired result of transforming your posts into what I perceived to be a more rational pattern of thought.

    In the future, I will add (it’s a joke) or /sarc or the like to assist you. In the meantime, have your anger.

  44. #244
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:28 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:00 pm, flenser said: #238

    Barack Obama, a leading Democrat candidate in the US presidential race, provoked anger yesterday by threatening to send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists — even without permission from that country’s Government.

    That is a characterization. There are no quotes. It is someone’s interpretaion of what was actually said.

    Standing in front of a Stars and Stripes flag, Mr Obama said: “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again . . . If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”

    That is a quote. The word ‘invade’ never came from candidate Obama with respect to Pakistan.

    Instead of sending drones, an ICBM could have been sent. A little extreme, though in my opinion not a bad idea, but it is also an ‘act’.

    If you “act” by sending your army into another country against the wishes of that countries government, you are “invading”.

    True.

    You might as well say that Bush did not order the “invasion” of Iraq, he merely “acted”.

    Like it or not, yes it can be said Pres Bush ‘acted’. Had he sent an ICBM instead, that would be an ‘act’, too.

  45. #245
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:28 pm, love2rumba said:

    That is the point that I am also making about Palin. People are not listening nor asking the obvious important questions. They are enthralled by her personality and her personal story to the exclusion of all else. They are hearing what they want to hear. People may be about to make the same mistake again

    This is precisely the problem at present.

    I read her book, and I still have not figured out why she was/is so ga-ga about McCain when she had zero problem ripping into McCain’s people Steve Schmidt and Nicole Wallace…
    She had NO PROBLEM going after Gov. Mikulski AFTER HE PICKED HIS DAUGHTER AND NOT PALIN to replace one of Alaska’s US Senator’s. Why doesn’t she feel similarly to McCain’s cavalier personal treatment after the election is a mystery to me.

    I enjoyed Palin’s feistiness on the campaign trail, and she would have been way better served to have someone else other than McCain as her running mate. That having been said, her behavior since she quit the governorship of Alaska has me wondering what Sarah Palin is really all about, and what I am seeing is not comforting.

  46. #246
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:32 pm, chapoutier said:

    Motorola ad = nice. On many levels.

  47. #247
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:36 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:21 pm, swede said: #246

    zzzzzzyppy – Check the posts against yours. I did not cut and paste. I used your exact words in the exact order you wrote them. I just eliminated some words in between to reach the desired result of transforming your posts into what I perceived to be a more rational pattern of thought.

    Editing.

    In the future, I will add (it’s a joke) or /sarc or the like to assist you. In the meantime, have your anger.

    Do what you have to do. I’ve already said that what you did was ‘too funny’. That does not sound angry to me.

    Hmmm, maybe you are the one who is angry? Angry because you cannot honestly respond to simple questions. Angry because I can say that I agree with you sometimes. And, you can’t bring yourself to do the same.

  48. #248
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:36 pm, swede said:

    zyzzyg said:
    Standing in front of a Stars and Stripes flag, Mr Obama said: “There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again . . . If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won’t act, we will.”

    Nah

    zyzzyg said:
    Standing in a flag, Mr Obama said: “There are 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike President Musharraf, we will.”

    Better. (Note: The preceeding quote has been modified from its original format to fit your schema.) Note to ZYZYZYZYZY: ITS. A. JOKE.

  49. #249
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:37 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 6:48 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    Happy: by your definition, you are NOT a Libertarian. You are a Republican. You vote Republican so you ARE a Republican. If Libertarians had any spine, they would vote for their own party and the GOP would be the defacto 3rd party at the ballot box just as they are in the polls.

    I am really wrapped up in the game right now, but I need to respond to this. I am a Libertarian by definition of my beliefs. However, I am a spineless wimp who votes Republican because I am afraid the Marxist will win and I don’t want to be partly responsible for that. So yes, I am a Republican voter and a Libertarian thinker. O.K? Now, back to the game. Later!

  50. #250
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:38 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 7:51 pm, swede said:

    You are missing the point entirely. These are the guys who organized the biggest rallies. They ARE speaking for the biggest chunk of Tea Party people. The Nashville crowd is a fraud.

  51. #251
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:40 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Shoot! Colts jusr scored! Go Saints! Go Pats!

  52. #252
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:40 pm, jangar said:

    Had he sent an ICBM instead, that would be an ‘act’, too.

    Yeah, a glass parking lot for my SUV.

  53. #253
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:47 pm, frontierguy said:

    I can’t listen to Ravel’s Bolero without thinking about Bo Derek.

    Sneaking over to your neighbor’s house cause he had cable and getting to see bare boobies when you are a pre-teen is the BEST!!

  54. #254
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:52 pm, swede said:

    A $2,000,000 census commercial. I feel so informed. Sheesh.

    PPhil – I did misunderstand the source of the email, but still am uncomfortable about any group appointing themselves as teaparty spokesmen.

  55. #255
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:54 pm, jangar said:

    Sneaking over to your neighbor’s house cause he had cable and getting to see bare boobies when you are a pre-teen is the BEST!!

    Easy there frontierguy, zyzzyg hasn’t gone to bed yet!

  56. #256
    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:58 pm, flenser said:

    That is a quote. The word ‘invade’ never came from candidate Obama with respect to Pakistan.

    Instead of sending drones, an ICBM could have been sent. A little extreme, though in my opinion not a bad idea, but it is also an ‘act’.

    Yes, it is an “act”. It’s an act of war, you pathetic excuse for an internet lawyer.

    yes it can be said Pres Bush ‘acted’.

    Great. Go back to Kos and tell your buddies that Bush never “invaded” Iraq after all, he merely “acted”. I’m sure they’ll then apologize for the temper tantrum they threw lasting several years.

  57. #257
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:03 pm, frontierguy said:

    You know jangar, it is not fair. When we were kids, we had to work hard to catch some nudity. I remember when I was 15 I found a Playgirl in a dumpster and there was not a single trash dumpster in town after that that I did not just about dive head first into just in case I got lucky again. Today, teenagers just need a computer hooked up to the internet. Granted, I think the access is way too easy and should be monitored better, but still….c’mon. Not fair!

  58. #258
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:05 pm, swede said:

    Manning definitely not at his best. Best Super Bowl in a long time. Close game.

  59. #259
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:06 pm, jangar said:

    Three days.

    Just 3 days is all it took.

    I told my wife the day of September 11th, 2001 that many in this country would quickly forget the events of that day, and in turn use it to advance their personal agenda for political points.

    3000 dead, 2 wars, and many more dead, and this nation is STILL divided on security, destiny. In fact, it’s still grossly divided on facts of that day!

    It only took 3 days for the left to start that movement…once the shock and awe factor subsided.

    Really sad world we live in.

  60. #260
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:13 pm, swede said:

    Saints in the red zone! Awesome. Not cause I like the saints – Good game.

  61. #261
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:19 pm, chapoutier said:

    Maybe YOU had to work hard to catch nudity, frontierguy.

    Maybe YOU weren’t hanging out with the right girls. Or any girls at all.

  62. #262
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:22 pm, tbear44 said:

    I liked the Denny’s chicken in the white house. How appropriate!

  63. #263
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:28 pm, swede said:

    Green Police Commercial??? Audi. Huh.

    Would be funny if it wasn’t so close to reality.

  64. #264
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:30 pm, swede said:

    Ouch. Manning intercepted for a TD. 3 minutes to go. Saints did it.

  65. #265
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:31 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:09 pm, chapoutier said:
    I love The Who. That said, this is awful.

    Townsend: “Hey it’s a living! Gets me away from the computer and all them nasty child porn sites!”

  66. #266
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:33 pm, jangar said:

    Saints did it.

    Riots in the streets.

    Somebody check a NO news site and see if they have a city-cam.

    This could be Obama’s first honest call :shock:

  67. #267
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:35 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Go Taints! yeehaw! That’ll teach the Colts for laying down and not going for the perfect season! You pissed off the NFL gods, you poinyoins!

  68. #268
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:37 pm, frontierguy said:

    Maybe YOU weren’t hanging out with the right girls. Or any girls at all

    Considering everything I’ve read of your posts it sounds like your woman is much more manlier than you, I wouldn’t throw stones princess.

  69. #269
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:39 pm, swede said:

    This could be Obama’s first honest call

    Cajun Cookin:

    Katrina – Bush’s fault.

    Saints win Super Bowl – Obama made it happen.

  70. #270
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:42 pm, jangar said:

    swede said:

    Something tells me Bush likes black folks a lot more than Zero.

  71. #271
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:44 pm, jangar said:

    Game.

  72. #272
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:47 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    happyscrapper said:

    Pasadena Phil said:

    Libertarian = member of Libertarian party.
    libertarian = person with libertarian philosophy.

    Splitting hairs, yes but the point must be made.

    I am a libertarian (not a Libertarian) because I believe that individual liberty is the chief political virtue.
    I am a republican (not a Republican) because I believe in the republican (not a Republican) system of government.
    I am a federalist (not a Federalist) because I believe in the separation of powers between the federal government and the states.

    Specifically, I self-identify as a conservative-libertarian / originalist.

  73. #273
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:49 pm, swede said:

    Live cam street riot in New Orleans!

  74. #274
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:51 pm, jangar said:

    Live cam street riot in New Orleans!

    We be goin’ to Di-ney Lan’!

  75. #275
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:51 pm, swede said:

    Well, that guy in the lawn chair is obviously happy.

  76. #276
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:52 pm, flenser said:

    I am a libertarian (not a Libertarian) because I believe that individual liberty is the chief political virtue.
    I am a republican (not a Republican) because I believe in the republican (not a Republican) system of government.

    Not to split hairs, but many people who call themselves libertarians don’t believe that liberty is the chief political virtue and also dislike the republican system of government. It’s not a very well-defined label. Noam Chomsky calls himself a libertarian!

  77. #277
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:52 pm, jangar said:

    Live cam street riot in New Orleans!

    Where’s FEMA when you need ‘em?

  78. #278
    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:58 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 8:52 pm, swede said:

    PPhil – I did misunderstand the source of the email, but still am uncomfortable about any group appointing themselves as teaparty spokesmen.

    I’m not reading their statement as a claim to their being the official spokesmen but rather protesting that the MSM has annointed the Nashville crowd as such. The Tea Party Patriots are fairly well organized from the ground up which would make them a more logical choice doe that designation but they are arguing that no one has that status.

    Since the Nashville crowd is a top-down operation that charged a very high admission price to keep the “little people” out of their ridiculously named “convention”, they have played into the hands of establishment Republicans and thanks to Fox, may succeed in establishing a new narrative of “rudderless”, “leaderless”, “in disarray”, “3rd party”, and so on.

    The spokespeople for BOTH organizations are saying the same thing but the Nashville crowd allowed themselves to get hijacked.

    I’m on the mailing list for just about every Tea Party organization and I can see the point the Tea Party Patriots are making. There is no urgency for the Tea Party to find a leader for all the reasons I mentioned here this morning and it would be counter-productive. It is the establishment that is in a hurry to seize the narrative and like I said earlier, it is not good politics to attack faceless grassroots movement. They need to find a person or persons to attack.

  79. #279
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:02 pm, jangar said:

    Live cam street riot in New Orleans!

    Titties! I see titties! Hey, frontierguy…check ‘em out man!

    ~ Eddie Murphy

  80. #280
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:02 pm, les said:

    jangar said:

    The ignorance displayed by some on this site never ceases to amaze me. I guess it’s just too much to ask for you to be happy for the people of New Orleans.

  81. #281
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:03 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 9:47 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    I have no beef with what you said. I too am a “libertarian” but I am an unaffiliated independent conservative because I refuse to be a member of the one-party establishment.

    You have seen in MA what it did to both parties to have 52% of voters be unaffiliated independents. Both parties are losing registrations simultaneously. Has that ever happened in history? I wonder why neither party wants to talk about it?

    If both parties are addressing their campaign strategies only to independents while taking their nose-holding loyalists for granted, why would anyone NOT be an unaffiliated independent?

  82. #282
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:05 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Naom Chomsky a libertarian. My mind just doesn’t stretch that far. He must have his own bizarre definition.

  83. #283
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:25 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “Titties! I see titties!”

    Really? You do know some of us have seen them before you know?

  84. #284
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:26 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    My wife and I went to a rally for the re-election of Gov. Rick Perry in Texas. Sarah Palin and her daughter, Piper, attended. Ted Nugent played the National Anthem.

    I swear, I would run away with her if I could. But, I’m married, and that would be wrong. :)

    She delivered as good a speech in Cypress as she did in Nashville. And we cheered her on for it.

  85. #285
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:29 pm, mattm said:

    Anyone catch the Green Police Audi ad? The Green Police, separate from the regular police, arresting people for using plastic bags, water bottles, incandescent light bulbs, and haveign a hot tub too hot, etc.

    Guess I’m not going to be recycling any time soon, thanks Audi.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq58zS4_jvM

  86. #286
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:30 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    What were they thinking with that commercial? It was like trying to make the Nazi’s funny.

  87. #287
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:34 pm, swede said:

    mattm said:
    Anyone catch the Green Police Audi ad?

    Yeah, commented when it aired that it would be kind of amusing if it weren’t so close to reality. At any rate, who would buy an Audi based on this thinking. Deeply warped.

  88. #288
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:39 pm, obdurate said:

    The green police, coming to your town soon, scary!

  89. #289
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:41 pm, mattm said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:34 pm, swede said:

    Yeah, commented when it aired that it would be kind of amusing if it weren’t so close to reality. At any rate, who would buy an Audi based on this thinking. Deeply warped.

    I guess they are targeting Liberals. Since then I have drank two plastic bottles of water, ignoring the sink, and tossed both in the trash. Off the landfill you go.

  90. #290
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:42 pm, emjem24 said:

    jangar said:
    Three days.

    Just 3 days is all it took.

    I told my wife the day of September 11th, 2001 that many in this country would quickly forget the events of that day, and in turn use it to advance their personal agenda for political points.

    3000 dead, 2 wars, and many more dead, and this nation is STILL divided on security, destiny. In fact, it’s still grossly divided on facts of that day!

    It only took 3 days for the left to start that movement…once the shock and awe factor subsided.

    Really sad world we live in.

    Thank you for this post.

    I didn’t watch the super bowl. I really just don’t care. They’re all a bunch of athletes who make way too much money throwing and receiving a football up and down a field. People have become overly attached and sentimental to the point of maudlin about the sport of football.

    So, New Orleans won the game? So what? It’s always nice to see the underdog win. That’s great… but then, what does it do for the city and people of New Orleans? The city still has entwined itself in Katrina and can’t see past it. Can’t seem to see past the reason why the city was so ill-prepared, what failed, and why the city is STILL in rough shape.

    Again, congrats to the Saints but I just don’t care. I’m listening to a magnificant Mendelssohn piece and feel happy that there is still beauty in music unlike the raucous entertainment that poses as music during superbowl halftime shows these days.

    To your post, Jangar:

    The events of 9/11 did not alter the reality of how selfish, self-absorbed, and arrogant Americans are as a people now. It never used to be that way. Our military has done some magnificant things to help others around the world and yet, when 9/11 happened, and it was yet another huge wake up call, many people stopped for a brief milisecond, then shrugged their shoulders and it’s like it never happened.

    I no longer trust politicians. I no longer trust bureaucrats in government or in business. It was open season on our military, on Pres. Bush for at least trying to do SOMETHING, even if it wasn’t done effectively (Iraq) or thoroughly (Afghanistan). People are like, why don’t we just leave the nice Iraqis and Afghanis alone even if their governments were corrupt and fostered terrorism around the world.

    To be blunt… Americans are stupid. They are easily deceived by both political parties. Americans want their comfort and their freebies and yet think nothing of what happens to the country as a whole. Who pays for said freebies and at whose expense.

    Call me a pessimist but I really do think our good days are far, far behind us. I’ve seen how fellow Americans, including those in my own family, poorly treated my military husband, and how utterly short-sighted and vain we are as a country. So, let’s spend our way out of this deep recession and into third world status, inflation, and never-ending deficits because WE’RE good for it.

    Yeah, right.

  91. #291
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:45 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Especially with the lies of the Green movement/global warming stuff coming out and pulling the rug out from under the whole mess?

    I thought they were headed toward some kind of statement about the invasiveness of the whole thing by taking it to the extremes in some kind of parody of it all eventually telling us how to free yourself from it all in an audi……

  92. #292
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:46 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “To be blunt… Americans are stupid.”

    So how do you explain Sen. Brown winning in liberal land?

  93. #293
    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:55 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “I really do think our good days are far, far behind us.”

    So you aren’t a conservative?

  94. #294
    On February 7th, 2010 at 11:04 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “I no longer trust politicians.”

    John Kyl, Jeff Sessions, Jeff Flake, Tom Coborn, Jon Cornyn, Bobby Jindal, Jim Demint, Judd Gregg…….

    I could go on……

    All of them are untrustworthy?

  95. #295
    On February 7th, 2010 at 11:10 pm, granite said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:42 pm, emjem24 said:

    They’re all a bunch of athletes who make way too much money throwing and receiving a football up and down a field.

    BINGO!!!

    Yes, I know it is still in some areas, to some degree, a free country.
    Just giving my opinion.

    In a brief article that I read ~20-25 years ago, its author(s) reported that, in his/their monitoring of 7 hours of pre-Super Bowl hype/BS shows, the Super Bowl itself, and post-Super Bowl hype/BS shows…and, of course, commercials; they found that there was a total of 7 minutes of action, as in people and/or the ball moving on the field.

    7 minutes out of 7 hours….

  96. #296
    On February 7th, 2010 at 11:11 pm, swede said:

    On February 7th, 2010 at 10:46 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:
    “To be blunt… Americans are stupid.”

    So how do you explain Sen. Brown winning in liberal land?

    Could it be like a double negative? When stupid people get stupid, they unwitingly do something smart?

    Nah. They just get stupider. More stupider. Duh, you know.

    Americans aren’t stupid. There’s a difference between misguided and stupid.

  97. #297
    On February 8th, 2010 at 12:20 am, Jerry said:

    The Audi green police commercial was a bit spooky tonight, these people are over the top.

  98. #298
    On February 8th, 2010 at 1:05 am, Avi Green said:

    From my politics blog: are you familiar with a certain Saudi prince named Alwaleed bin Talal? And are you aware that he’s chummy with a certain businessman from Oz?

    From my comics blog: beware the works of Brian Michael Bendis.

    And, from my game blog: Thunder Dragon.

  99. #299
    On February 8th, 2010 at 1:29 am, tonyr951 said:

    Creepiest Super Bowl commercial ever, Audi’s Green Police

  100. #300
    On February 8th, 2010 at 7:19 am, graysonret said:

    It was a good Super Bowl game for those of us who didn’t root for any team. Now that it’s over, we (wife and I) can concentrate on Nascar. Funny. I used to be an avid Winter Olympics fan; even taking days off just to sit and watch it all (on ABC). These days, I have no interest in it. When is it anyway? I fear too much politics in it.

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