On February 10th, 2010 at 9:40 pm, zyzzyg said:

Pres Obama said he was looking for facts, substance and proof that what is offered will work. Well, bring it on and show him.

Pres Obama said he was looking for facts, but Pres Obama isn’t looking for facts.

Pres Obama is looking for force Republicans to support a dem healthcare plan.

Pres Obama will control this forum and quash facts.

You cheer these attempts by Obama. Michelle doesn’t.

On February 9th, 2010 at 5:52 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
We need to elect believers, not hired intermediaries.

Electing these Republicans to represent us is like casting Don Knotts instead of Leonardo DiCaprio in “Titanic”. It’s not the script or that Don Knotts is a bad actor, it’s….. oh I don’t know…. miscasting maybe?

The problem with Leo DC in “Titanic” was that I spent the whole movie waiting for him to die. It took entirely too long.

ECS, P.O.O.P.

On February 10th, 2010 at 1:01 am, monad888 said: #88

Every time the Reps take the high road like this, they get rolled by the press so I’m not sure why they should do anything. They aren’t expected to cooperate so why do it? If they do and stand their ground, they look like hypocrites for saying they want to cooperate but not agreeing with the other side…which is politically worse. That’s what’ll happen.

How and when have the Reps gotten rolled by the press? No matter. Don’t be so pessimistic.

Who doesn’t expect them to be cooperative? The cooperation begins when the Reps show up at the White House with their binders of facts at the ready.

It isn’t about standing your ground, it is about the facts. You can have your own opinion but you can’t have your own facts. Pres Obama said he was looking for facts, substance and proof that what is offered will work. Well, bring it on and show him.

You can’t disagree on the facts when backed up by the substance offered in the binders the Reps bring with them.

It’s the Newt Gingrich flaw. He makes 100 great points, then in an attempt to be bipartisan he says something like “the Dems get some things right” (paraphrasing) and ends up handing the opposition the political ammo to undercut his entire argument. ALL of his great points get lost under “Dems do right” press glee.

The ‘press’ is a pretty big place. There are many outlets that deliver the news. Yep, each has it’s own bias, but no one will be able to hide when the meeting is carried live on television.

Each media outlet will put up the clip that supports their bias. The reality is that you, the individual, will be able to make up your own mind on whether the proceedings have been cooperative, or not.

[NOTE: When I say binder, I am dating myself, and one of those computer notebooks will work just as well.]

Despite the invite to the GOP to the summit, the Dems will ram through reconciliation anyway.

On February 10th, 2010 at 10:58 am, Ragspierre said:

I agree. Let’s give the Republicans a chance to show what they will do. They just might surprise us. And, as I said before, they have stood up to the pressure so far, with no one voting for these crappy bills! They are on the same page as we are. Now, let’s just pray they make the right decision and don’t allow themselves to look weak in any way! Oh, and keep McLame far far away from Obama with his hand out!!

Michelle was, IMNHO, just WRONG in her Cantor depiction.

Others didn’t read it that way…

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/234621

It would be counterproductive for us to spend time and energy on 2 bills that were rejected by your own party,

Boehner came out just the other day and said almost exactly those words. Aren’t any of you hearing these things?? You keep criticizing the republicans, but I see a lot of fight left in them!! Boehner has said that it is a waste of time when Obama’s own party couldn’t get this passed with the majority in Congress. So, that should be that!! Didn’t anyone else hear him say that? Cut a little slack…please. They are in a tough situation and are fighting back. NOW, if they give in even a little after all that, THEN we can criticize. Right now, I am hopeful they will stand their ground. They have every reason to do so, and no reasons to give in!! NONE!! And they know the people are behind them all the way in their stand.

Okay, I was kidding. Real first question:
“Is Tort Reform on the table, or are you too beholden to the Trial Lawyer Lobby?”

Boom, taste my nightstick!