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1. #1
   On February 22nd, 2010 at 3:50 pm, steveegg said:

   I can provide a cost estimate – boku bucks down the drain.

2. #2
   On February 22nd, 2010 at 3:54 pm, et said:

   This was deliberate. To obfuscate is to rule. That is the Obama way

3. #3
   On February 22nd, 2010 at 3:55 pm, Romeo13 said:

   Of course CBO can’t score this, they did not release the Legislative Language…

   They released a political ad instead.

4. #4
   On February 22nd, 2010 at 3:56 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

   (channelling Carl Sagan) CBO: “Gazillions and gazillions! (off mike: “is that even a real number?”)

5. #5
   On February 22nd, 2010 at 3:57 pm, Paul Revere said:

   Perfect excuse for the GOP not to show up if ya ask me. This is clearly a no-brainer, but we’re talking about the same group that refuses to blame McCain for the having BHO as president.

6. #6
   On February 22nd, 2010 at 3:58 pm, Mister P said:

   The White House must be a product on incests. There must be some explanation for its incessant stupidity. Keep it up and they will destroy the Democratic Party. 36% support for the Health Care Bill and sinking.

   Republican’s should go to the White House in Black and call it a funeral.

7. #7
   On February 22nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm, WarEagle82 said:

   It doesn’t matter how much it costs. Obama runs the printing presses at the Bureau of Printing and Engraving so one simple call and it’s all paid for!

8. #8
   On February 22nd, 2010 at 3:59 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

   …the materials that were released this morning do not provide sufficient detail on all of the provisions.

   Chicago Transparency ©

9. #9
   On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:01 pm, tre said:

   So they won’t issue a cost estimate based strictly on Obummers word?

   There’s hope for this government yet!

10. #10
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:05 pm, beenthere said:

    CBO to White House: We can’t score your health care crap sandwich

    The Republicans could, and should, say that without that cost estimate they will not attend the summit. Will they?
    Unfortunately, I think it likely that the contempt the administration feels for the opposition, as evidenced by the latest piece of garbage, is warranted.

11. #11
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:09 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    How do you spell LOOOOOOOSER?
    

    Also, the bill nixes Ben Nelson’s Nebraska deal and boosts Federal financing for Medicaid expansion in all states.

    Will some reporter PLEEZE ask Ben Nelson, “How does it feeeeel Ben?”

    BWAHAAAAAHAHAHA!

12. #12
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:12 pm, cheapseat said:

    trillions and trillions. Quadrillions and quadrillions. Sooner or later you run out of other peoples money.

13. #13
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:13 pm, Regulus said:

    The Republican ground rules for participating in any discussions should begin with these:

    1. Any plan with no tort law reform = DOA.

    2. Any plan with no nation-wide health insurance competition = DOA.

    3. Any plan with any kind of “government option” = DOA.

    There could, and should, be more pre-requisites; but these will suffice for starters.

14. #14
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:16 pm, NC BLUE said:

    Please don’t tell Odumbo what comes after a Trillion. This is CYA for the CBO. We didn’t have time to determine that this wil bankrupt America. Please accept our apologies.

15. #15
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:18 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I have been to the U.S. three times over the past twelve months to receive health care that I could not get in my home country of Canada. If the U.S. moves towards more government control in their health system, I will lose the benefit that the American private health care system provides me.

    Many other people from around the world will also be hurt, because like me, they travel to the states to get the fastest, latest and best care available. I do have the option of going to China, as my wife is Chinese and can be my guide while there, however, the distance of China as compared to the U.S. would make it less attractive. I only live 2 hours from the border, 5 hours from Cleveland and 11 hours from Virginia. China is a 13 hour flight one way, plus jet lag etc.

    Please think about those people living outside of the states. Many of us rely on you guys because our own governments have failed us!

16. #16
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:20 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Regulus said:
    There could, and should, be more pre-requisites….

    4. Protect my LIBERTY to not buy health ‘insurance’. (A health insurance premium is nothing but a wager against my own health.)

17. #17
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:27 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:18 pm, 123upnorth said:
    I have been to the U.S. three times over the past twelve months to receive health care that I could not get in my home country of Canada.

    Whatsa matter, you don’t like waiting in lines? I thought you Canucks were made of stronger stuff?!

18. #18
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:37 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I have endured a 10-year plus battle with an on-going breathing issue. In terms of opportunity cost, I would estimate that I am at least $100,000 poorer than I would otherwise be had I had fast access to better care as opposed to being stuck in Canada’s public health care system.

    In Canada, you have to wait months for a specialist whom you can’t chose yourself, you also wait for diagnostic tests and the longest wait is for surgery intervention. If you want a second opinion, well, as they say in Vegas – GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!

19. #19
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:39 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Yep, the message is clear. The CBO will require more time to score the bill.

20. #20
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:43 pm, drfredc said:

    While Obamacare a crap sandwich, it’s also all about setting up a MESS.

    Mandated
    Employer
    Subsidized
    Socialism

    So it’s a MESS crap sandwich.

21. #21
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:51 pm, RedDog said:

    These people are not leaders, they’re not even managers. They are stage actors and poor ones at that.

    Democrats, Communists, call them what you will. They are consumed with the acquisition of power and imposing a European-style iron-fisted rule over this country. Memo to Democrats and Communists: Americans don’t suffer themselvs to be “ruled”, especially by the likes of you. Let’s party.

22. #22
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:53 pm, 123upnorth said:

    You don’t have to wait for the CBO to tell you about the cost. It will be much more expensive than a private plan.

    Again, speaking from my knowledge of the Canadian health care system, my government spends a little over $4000 per capita on health services.

    For that $4000, we have inferior technology, less-qualified medical staff, extremely long wait times and it is getting worse.

    To give you a example of our system, my provincial government of Ontario targets emergency room wait times for serious conditions at 4 hours and non-serious conditions at 8 hours. That’s only the target though. The average wait time in a hospital for emergencies often exceeds 7-8 hours and for non-emergency, it frequently will run you an 11 – 13 hour wait. Many emergency rooms in the province only have 1 doctor on shift even though there are often 20 or more patients waiting desperately to see him/her. You usually won’t get a CAT/MRI unless you have a really drastic condition because with limited resources they can’t ‘waste’ the better stuff unless you really ‘need it.’ The nurse, whom often can’t access you at all, makes the decision as to your priority level. I have learned to lie to the nurse in order to get bumped up and then change my story when the doctor checks over me. That way, I can usually shave 2 hours of my time.

23. #23
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:54 pm, RedDog said:

    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:39 pm, zyzzyg said:
    Yep, the message is clear. The CBO will require more time to score the bill.

    Score the bill? It would be easier to catch a greased pig by hand. With so much missing and inaccurate informaation, so many variables, it is literally impossible to “grade”. This is truly insane, and frightening.

24. #24
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:56 pm, mytake said:

    The strange thing is that Ben Nelson’s honeypot was removed to HELP him get elected again. Blows my mind how these people worm in and out.

25. #25
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    CBO can’t score bill: perfect OUT for the Republicans.

26. #26
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:06 pm, Uplander said:

    My Niece and Nephew have me scared. They already use ‘Gazillion’ as if it is a real number. Maybe they know more than I give them credit for, after all is their billing statement.

27. #27
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:08 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    CBO: Our calculators only have 12 digits.

28. #28
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:13 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Wow, free Kool Aid for anyone who supports that thing!

29. #29
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:13 pm, Gorebot said:

    The Entitlement Mentality is killing everything in its path!

30. #30
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:14 pm, Gorebot said:

    When was the last time Michael “Doughnut Oil” Moore went to Cuba or Canada to get his health care???

    Just wonderin’….

31. #31
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:20 pm, Gorebot said:

    Doctor: “Mr. America, you’ve got to cut down on those crap sandwiches, they’re going to kill you. They contain way too much fat, delusion, and are toxic to boot.”

    Patient: “But they give them to us for free! We’ve *earned* them!”

    Doctor: “Then prepare to choke on your freedom as it gets rammed down your throat ’till you die.”

32. #32
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:31 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I doubt Michael Moore would like our health care system. Even our own politicians travel to the states when they need important health care. Just google ‘Danny Williams+healthcare+America’ and you will see. Or try ‘Belinda+Stronach+healthcare+California’. Our Canadian politicians constantly prevent private options for us, the voters, but when they are ill, private health care is all-of-a-sudden a great thing. Friggin’ hypocrites!

33. #33
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:31 pm, EdDantes said:

    Therefore, CBO cannot provide a cost estimate for the proposal without additional detail, and, even if such detail were provided, analyzing the proposal would be a time-consuming process that could not be completed this week.

    suprise

34. #34
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:32 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:39 pm, zyzzyg said:
    Yep, the message is clear. The CBO will require more time to score the bill.

    The CBO needs enough information to score the bill, and I doubt that information will be forthcoming in anything like a timely manner.

    ECS

35. #35
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:35 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    mytake said:

    The strange thing is that Ben Nelson’s honeypot was removed to HELP him get elected again.

    It doesn’t undo the political hit that he took and now …took for nothing. THEY EAT THEIR OWN!

36. #36
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:37 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Dexter Alarius said: CBO: Our calculators only have 12 digits.

    Pelosi: “I only have ten digits and it didn’t stop me.”

37. #37
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:46 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:

    Congrats to the KBPOTUS administration and this is the second time my TI-84 Calculator has fried trying to figure his math out.

    I went back to my college Algebra and Stats work and couldn’t figure this crap out.

    GSP

38. #38
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm, nail49 said:

    “I only have ten digits and it didn’t stop me.”

    If she were wearing open-toe shoes she gets an extra 10 digits!

39. #39
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:50 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Pelosi: “I only have ten digits tentacles and it didn’t stop me.”

    FIFY

40. #40
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:56 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    On February 22nd, 2010 at 5:46 pm, gunslingerpatriot said:
    Congrats to the KBPOTUS administration and this is the second time my TI-84 Calculator has fried trying to figure his math out.

    What’s ObummerCare up to now?
    1.7 EE 12
    Things are bad when you need to use Scientific Notation for the cost of Legislation.

41. #41
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 6:22 pm, walterc said:

    NC BLUE said:

    Please don’t tell Odumbo what comes after a Trillion.

    For this crowd of elitists, I believe that would be a Cotillion. co·til·lion–noun
    1.
    a formal ball given esp. for debutantes.

    For this crowd it usually includes Wagyu Beef.

42. #42
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 pm, cabrerski said:

    What comes after eleventy hundred trillion dollars?

43. #43
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 6:33 pm, tarpon said:

    How about we give the new improved crap sandwich the same $2.5 trillion as the old crap sandwich got.

    And remember the first years are all taxes no payouts.

44. #44
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 6:34 pm, corkie said:

    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:39 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Yep, the message is clear. The CBO will require more time to score the bill.

    Amazing that you clearly only understood half the message.

    CBO cannot provide a cost estimate for the proposal without additional detail

45. #45
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 6:40 pm, John Deaux said:

    …the materials that were released this morning do not provide sufficient detail on all of the provisions.

    Obama:
    That’s just a simple oversight. It’s deficit neutral. Trust me.

46. #46
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:12 pm, cheapseat said:

    trillions and trillions. Quadrillions and quadrillions. Sooner or later you run out of other peoples money.

    if you have to borrow it you’ve already run out of “other people’s money”…

47. #47
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 22nd, 2010 at 4:37 pm, 123upnorth said:
    I have endured a 10-year plus battle with an on-going breathing issue. In terms of opportunity cost, I would estimate that I am at least $100,000 poorer than I would otherwise be had I had fast access to better care as opposed to being stuck in Canada’s public health care system.

    Hi 123upnorth, I didn’t mean to make too light of your predicament, just tweaking the Canadian Healthcare System nose as it were. I’m glad you had the ability to take advantage of our system and hope your problems have been alleviated as much as possible. I had a coworker whose father was Canadian and his father was diagnosed with prostate cancer and put on an 18 month waiting list for treatment. Needless to say, a treatable disease spread and killed him unnecessarily. I’ll take our system anytime warts and all.

48. #48
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 9:39 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On February 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 pm, cabrerski said:
    What comes after eleventy hundred trillion dollars?

    A massive coronary after you look in your wallet!

49. #49
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    It would cost far more than we can afford or are willing to pay. And is a trojan horse to a single payer socialized health care system.

    And in a single payer system the fine care Bill Clinton received will no longer be available in Obama’s world. No medicated stent for you! In the US, 80% get those. In Canada, about 30%. And they wait about 3 or 4 months instead of doing it in a more efficient process during an angiogram about half are down later.

    Keep your damn (dumb) nose out of my health care Obama.

50. #50
    On February 22nd, 2010 at 10:18 pm, jangar said:

    We can’t score your health care crap sandwich

    …cuz our calculators don’t go that high!

    Keep your damn (dumb) nose out of my health care Obama

    …and your ears too.

51. #51
    On February 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 am, SirKnob said:

    One has to believe that this is a purposeful act on the part of the Obama administration.
    That way they can sell their garbage without the CBO being able to counter their false claims of savings.
    Remember back in the day when politicians were honest and faithful public servants. No? well me either, just checking

52. #52
    On February 23rd, 2010 at 9:25 am, jlhudg23 said:

    The first Republican to stand up and speak at the sham share-a-thon this week needs to give the following speech:

    Mr. President, with all due respect, do you think we’re stupid enough to believe you really want to hear our ideas when, on the eve of this meeting, you suddenly produce–after an entire year of not doing so–your own proposal for healthcare reform? Could you not have waited a couple of days until this meeting, hear our ideas, and then come out with a proposal that included some of our ideas? That’s what most Americans think of when they hear you use the word “bipartisanship”.

    I propose having Boehner make those opening remarks.

53. #53
    On February 23rd, 2010 at 12:32 pm, battleaxe said:

    Note to Republicans that want to keep a seat in Congress in the next election:
    1) Write up a 2-5 page bill limiting liability in malpractice cases.
    2) Keep bringing it up for a vote until the cows come home.