Here comes the reconciliation “nobody” is talking about; Update: Oba-kabuki lab coat props reappear; “Make your voice heard;” McConnell: “National referendum”
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Photoshop: Leo Alberti
It’s official. After months of threatening to push the button on the so-called nuclear option, reconciliation — the parliamentary maneuver that Harry Reid said “nobody” is talking about and that President Obama said Americans didn’t care about last week — is a go.
Politico this morning quotes Tom Harkin signaling the green light:
Sen. Tom Harkin told POLITICO that Senate Democratic leaders have decided to go the reconciliation route. The House, he said, will first pass the Senate bill after Senate leaders demonstrate to House leaders that they have the votes to pass reconciliation in the Senate.
Harkin made the comments after a meeting in Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s office including Harkin and Sens. Baucus, Dodd, Durbin, Schumer and Murray.
When asked whether the leaders had made the decision, Durbin said: “We are moving ahead with a version of the health care reform bill that we believe has a good chance of passing both the House and the Senate.”
He then put the onus on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to signal whether she can provide enough votes to pass the Senate bill, followed by a package of fixes through reconciliation.
Last night, Jake Tapper said President Obama was ready for reconciliation:
White House officials tell ABC News that in his remarks tomorrow President Obama will indicate a willingness to work with Republicans on some issue to get a health care reform bill passed but will suggest that if it is necessary, Democrats will use the controversial “reconciliation” rules requiring only 51 Senate votes to pass the “fix” to the Senate bill, as opposed to the 60 votes to stop a filibuster and proceed to a vote on a bill.
Lawmakers on Capitol Hill have been awaiting the president’s remarks direction on how health care reform will proceed.
In his remarks, scheduled to be at the White House, the president will paint a picture of what he will say will happen without a health care reform bill – skyrocketing premiums, everyone at the mercy of the insurance industry as recently seen with the 39% premium increases proposed by Anthem Blue Cross in California.
He will note that the “fixed” bill will include the proposal for a new “Health Insurance Rate Authority” to set guidelines for reasonable rate increases. If proposed premium increases are not justifiable per those Health Insurance Rate Authority guidelines, the Health and Human Services Secretary or state regulators could block them.
The plan to pass the bill includes having the House of Representatives pass the Democratic Senate health care reform legislation as well as a second bill containing various “fixes.”
The president will call for an up or down vote on health care reform, as has happened in the past, and though he won’t use the word “reconciliation,” he’ll make it clear that if they’re not given an up or down vote, Democrats will use the reconciliation rules as Republicans have done in the past.
The GOP is preparing for battle, according to Sen. John Thune:
Republicans are preparing to raise points of order and other roadblocks to the healthcare bill, a member of the Senate GOP leadership said Tuesday evening.
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the fourth-ranking Senate Republican who serves as chairman of the Republican Policy Committee, said the GOP is prepared for a number of scenarios in which they would seek to slow down or halt passage of healthcare legislation once it comes back before the Senate.
“I still think it creates a lot of problems when it comes back to the Senate because there will be lots of points of order that will lie against the bill in the Senate, and obviously, we will, hopefully, have the opportunity to raise some of those,” Thune said of the health bill during an appearance on Fox News.
At issue is the new bill of healthcare legislation changes the House is expected to pass under budget reconciliation rules. Under those rules, the legislation only has to achieve a simple majority in the Senate instead of the 60 normally needed to end a filibuster. Such a maneuver would effectively sidestep Republican opposition to the health bill.
“You know, I don’t want to concede that it’s going to pass for sure yet,” Thune said. “I still think that there’s a lot of clock left in this game.”
The NRCC has gone code red.
Hugh Hewitt says: Let a million amendments bloom.
Steve Ertelt reports that Pelosi is still lying about abortion funding.
Phone/contact list for target House Dems here.
Your handy video flashback of the day via Naked Emperor News/BreibartTV:
CBS Interview 11/2/04
My understanding of the Senate is that you need 60 votes to get something significant to happen, which means that Democrats and Republicans have to ask the question, do we have the will to move an American agenda forward, not a Democratic or Republican agenda forward?
Change to Win Convention 9/25/07
The bottom line is that our healthcare plans are similar, the question once again is, who can get it done? Who can build a movement for change? This is an area where we’re going to have to have a 60% majority in the Senate and the House in order to actually get a bill to my desk. We’re going to have to have a majority to get a bill to my desk. That is not just a fifty plus one majority.
Obama Interview with the Concord Monitor 10/9/07
You’ve got to break out of what I call the sort of fifty plus one pattern of presidential politics. Maybe you eke out a victory of fifty plus one. Then you can’t govern. You know, you get Air Force One, there are a lot of nice perks, but you can’t deliver on healthcare. We are not going to pass universal health care with a fifty plus one strategy.
Center for American Progress Conference 7/12/06
Those big-ticket items: fixing our health care system. You know, one of the arguments that sometimes I get with my fellow progressives, and some of these have flashed up in the blog communities on occasion, is this notion that we should function sort of like Karl Rove where we identify our core base, we throw ’em red meat, we get a fifty plus one victory. See, Karl Rove doesn’t need a broad consensus because he doesn’t believe in government. If we want to transform the country, though, that requires a sizeable majority.
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One more terrific reconciliation photoshop from Maksim at The People’s Cube:
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Substratum says conservatives must control the narrative on reconciliation. A reminder about Robert Byrd:
Control the narrative on Senate reconciliation and leveraged pressure against wavering House members is yours. Public knowledge of Byrd’s strong feelings against using reconciliation for healthcare as outlined here and here. This knowledge alone kills the meme that reconciliation is a harmless little fuzzy bunny that has been used before by Republicans and therefore it is perfectly acceptable to use it to overhaul 1/6 of the U.S. economy.
Ubiquitous public awareness the architect of Senate reconciliation is against using the procedural tactic to pass ObamaCare will cause vulnerable House members to reach for the Maalox and lose trust in both the process and the end result in terms of the blowback by their constituents and the unceremonious end of said Representative’s political career. Pelosi would find it even harder to garner support for ObamaCare; nobody is willing to fall on a sword for the queen of contempt. In short, House members will be tainted by the Senate procedure.
To state it another way, the Senate procedural maneuver will effectively scare away votes in the House. This will work if the GOP starts talking – and talking a great deal. Wide exposure on Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, talk radio, and in the blogosphere will only aid our cause and the goal to kill ObamaCare for good. There will be an argument that reconciliation will only be used to pass “fixes” to the bill. However, if the bill will not pass without reconciliation, then it is clear that reconciliation is the means by which the entire healthcare system will be overhauled. The argument falls apart and reconciliation is once again front-and-center as the means by which ObamaCare will be passed.
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Update 1:54pm Eastern: Obama is on the tee-vee again, with white lab-coated doctor props flanking him on stage again.
Flashback October 2009: Spin doctors for Obamacare.
Obama claims that “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”
GOP House staffer Michael Steel responds:
If that line sounds familiar, it’s because it was a staple of the President’s rhetoric on health care last year.
We haven’t hear it in a while because it’s not true. Media outlets, including the Associated Press and ABC News debunked the claim thoroughly, noting that even White House officials acknowledged the president’s rhetoric shouldn’t be taken “literally.” Eventually, the White House press office took it out of the President’s speeches.
Why is it coming back now? Does the White House think reporters have forgotten it isn’t true?
2:11pm Eastern. “Make your voice heard,” Obama urges. Unless you’re a member of that Tea Party angry mob. Remember: The White House wants you people to shut up and get out of the way.
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WaPo” Defining “nuclear.”
2:46pm Eastern. GOP Sen. McConnell responds to Obama: “I would say to my Democratic colleagues, you ignore the overwhelming desires of the American people at your own peril.” If Demcare gets rammed down Americans’ throats, McConnell says midterms will be a “national referendum” on the issue.
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This is Democratic Party suicide.
Obummer and the democrats to America; @#$%& YOU!
Obama has effectively melded the administrative branch and the legislative branch into a functioning Marxist politburo and set the stage for his unique blend of fascism. Say goodbye to the “United States of America”, because it is no more.
Let’s get ready to rumble!
Once again – Little Ceasar is proven to lie out both sides of his mouth, while he fondles America with one hand his other hand is stabbing her in the back.
There is going to be trouble…
Take it to the streets.
Then vote them all out.
I can not even begin tell you how I detest these people! I just pray that the r’s will do everything possible to try to stop this.
L
That’s the good news. Donk suicide, political or otherwise, is to be applauded if not encouraged.
The other news, however, is that they’re determined to take us all with them.
Abso-freaking-loootly, brother!!!
IF this is crammed through, it needs to be the MOST disobeyed law in American history!!!!
Supreme Court, here we come…
For some reason, they think that playing to their ever shrinking base is a winning strategy.
Of course, with as much time and effort as they’ve spent trying to force us to accept this crap sandwich, they have to pass something or lose face.
Entering prison is sometimes a relief for criminals, as they finally get the health care they need — dental, nutrition, medical checkups, general health.
Who should be responsible for your health — you, or others? For better or worse, people must be in charge of their own health. A vision of the annointed of universal health care sends the wrong message, that others will take care of us. To be happy, we must take care of ourselves.
If you all would take the time to learn about the Cloward-Pivens Strategy, this would make perfect sense to you.
You destroy the capitalist system by overwhelming it with demands that cannot be sustained.
It makes perfect sense to me what they are doing. Obama was nurtured on this Alinsky/Cloward/Pivens garbage.
I know I am not going to be happy with BO taking money out of my paycheck for his so called “health care insurance” while at the same time I have money coming out of my paycheck for the health care insurance I already am paying for …
Somebody has to stop the madness …
So let’s say, God forbid, that these @$$hats ram this thing through. What does that do to the states who are currently in the process of passing legislation that exempts their residents from being required to participate? This whole damn thing is so unConstitutional that it makes my head spin.
Buffalo Barack:
“It puts the lotion on its skin……”
So it doesn’t get the hose again …
Even if the States pass an exemption – how in Gods name do I keep the Feds from raiding my paycheck – I already pay for my health insurance – WTF and When TF is this going to stop – I am so freakin angry I cannot see straight.
How about the unemployed who don’t want to participate, and are told to pay penalities. How is this enforced? Jail, interest and penalties, an appeal to their duty as ObamaBots, or all the above?
Even people who want universal healthcare should be appalled by this. (Of course, they aren’t — they’re too busy dancing in the street waiting for all of their free stuff.)
I truly, truly think that every adult should have to pass a Civics / History exam before being allowed to vote! And maybe every piece of proposed legislation should have a checklist attached to remind our representatives to think about things a little harder. The first item on the checklist should be “Is this legislation in violation of the terms of the US Constitution?” Aaaarrrggh!
Paul-Cincy said:
Probably given full time employment with Americorpse – pay, free benefits, all paid for by people that work for a living.
I hope Obama does this. Even if it works, the impact on the mid term elections will be brutal for the left and whatever gain he may get using reconciliation, will be overturned. So he’ll end up with nothing and it will have cost several Democratic Rep/Sen their jobs.
A good thing.
If it doesn’t work, and Obama is faced with a revolt within his own party and can’t get 51 votes…
That is also a good thing.
It appears Rham understands this but Obama does not.
They’ve used Reconciliation (nuke option?) to pass major legislation that would affect some 1/6 of our national economy? Really?
Also, to those of you on the Left who frequent this blog, does it even matter to you anymore what this man says?
The fact that this video shows him absolutely 180 deg in PRINCIPLED opposition to what he is proposing now should scream one thing: NO INTEGRITY.
Does that mean anything anymore? Or is it just time for more, “Well, YOUR side does it, too!”? Would to God we had a goodly number of folks on the Left with the integrity and principle to admit the obvious.
Sadly, based on previous experience, I won’t hold my breath for that to eventuate.
Just Chicago politics as usual!!! Leadership to Bho is dictating not governing. The ends justify the means, any means deemed necessary.
Al Qaeda can truly go on vacation now.
It is The Great Satan’s leaders who are doing the work of Osama.
Overheard in a Kashmir Kave: “Jets? We don’t need no stinking jets, we got Pelosi! Allah be praised.”
The destruction of the Senate and the constitutional crisis that will trigger is unwarranted.
We have a right to retain our America and let people who want to live in Venezuela to move there.
Get ready to fight, folks. This is it. This bill is the shot heard round the world and we will be at war as soon as it passes. I am serious. We are at war against our own progessive government. They must be stopped from their agenda of total destruction!! Lawsuits must be filed in every state!! We must defend the Constitution. If this is allowed to pass, we will no longer have a Constitution to defend. When that goes, our freedom and liberty are gone with it. This.cannot.stand!!
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It’s going to take a lot of Soviet style Gulags to hold all the people who won’t or can’t pay the fines if this warmed over C**P SANDWICH passes.
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The damage to old people like me when more doctors refuse to take Medicare patients will leave us seniors (aka gray panthers) hung out to dry–after decades of having the same socialists / statists taking our income to pay for the Ponzi scheme.
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The damage to businesses and the worse unemployment disaster coming due to wild spending and higher taxes will make more criminals of us all.
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Teaparty Comrade Obama (PBUH) and his congressional ilk at every opportunity. Vote them out in the 2010 and 2012 elections.
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John Bibb
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“Anymore?”
It never mattered to them. The only thing that motivated them in the last election was the opportunity to express their hatred of conservatives/Republicans in general, and George Bush in particular.
When Hope-a-Dope masqueraded as a “centrist” or as a “post-partisan,” the left didn’t care because they assumed — correctly — that he was lying through his teeth.
The people who need to take a long, hard look in the mirror are the fools who either wouldn’t bother to see him for what he’s always been (i.e., the independents), or who turned a blind eye to it (i.e., the media). Hope-a-Dope’s plummeting poll numbers suggest that the independents, at least, have come to their senses — albeit too late to do any good until this November at the earliest.
I wish SOMEONE would explain that this bill is not going to pass through ‘reconciliation’.
The bill has already been passed by the Senate. There is supposed to be a conference committee to merge the bills. If they did that, they would require an additional 60 votes to end debate in the senate for the new bill.
Reconciliation is not used to pass legislation. Reconciliation is used to RECONCILE a PASSED BILL with the budget.
In other words, they haven’t passed the bill through ‘reconciliation’. They passed it with the 60 vote majority. If they do ‘reconciliation’ it will be to ADD COSTS to the current bill to pay off people in the House.
The House has to pass the senate bill. Then they can use ‘reconciliation’ to add and remove costs to the bill.
I am amazed at how well the White House can manipulate the message to make it seem as though they are making changes to the current bill. They aren’t doing anything. The bill isn’t any different than it was on Dec 24.
But the narrative is ‘Obama has a new bill that includes republican ideas’.
It’s amazing that even intelligent people and political professionals continue to mislead what is happening by being played by the white house communications department.
THIS is why I’m not optimistic about November. It is what Obama says it is and nobody challenges it.
Instead of crying about ‘reconciliation’ of an already passed bill, R’s should be up in arms that a conference committee has not been formed for such a major piece of legislation.
Conference committee? What’s that? What does it have to do with the evil evil reconciliation that we know is ‘bad’.
The right gets played again by the white house narrative. They are going to play amnesty like a fiddle and I don’t have hopes of anyone on the conservative side to effectively counter the arguments. They’ll still be crying about ‘reconciliation’ on a bill that has already passed.
Nice photoshop. There is at least one good thing about the Obama Administration, though. It has brought to light the gradual movement of government (both parties) over the past 200 years from government as servants of the people to government as rule by elites (royalty, if you will).
I sincerely believe it’s going to come to that, as well as a National Tax Strike. Question is does America have the intestinal fortitude to do it? If just everyone in the Tea Party did it it’d press a point, but how many of even they would lay their precepts on the line so? I’d do both, but I’d sure hate to be alone in the wind.
James Greenidge
Queens NY
HERE WE GO. MORE OBAMA GRANDSTANDING.
Let me predict what will be said…
1. Health Insurance is broke. Insurance companies are to blame. They are evil and must die.
2. We have to do it for the children. Children. Children. Children. Only mean people don’t like Children even though I am in favor of aborting them any reason.
3. Elections matter. The people want this even if everything says they don’t.
4. I inherited this problem. It’s an emergency. I have to spend money to save money.
5. This is bipartisan all the way even though it will have zero republican votes.
6. Shove it America. We, the socialist progressive democrats, don’t give a damn what you think.
Notice the purple tie. A signal to the criminals that back him up at SEIU.
That is Obama’s predicate lie. It is a whopper. He not only believes in giving government more control, he insists on it.
That is the second sentence, and second major lie. It also employs a straw-man.
That, I think, is semi-true. Obama does, in some measure, believe this. But what about PATIENTS deciding what is best for THEMSELVES?
So, in the first paragraph of his speech, THE ONE tells two outright lies, sets up a straw-man, and reveals that we, as individual citizens, are not the determiners of our own health-care.
There you go…
kabuki theater yet again…up there with the white coats touting socialized medical care and control of your very lives…what a shame this man is….God save us if this passes!!
Let’s ROOOOOCK!!!!!
Bring it on, Obama, you MF!!!!
GO TO HELL!!!
OMG they just panned the audience…white coats everywhere…excuse me while I changed the channel (sound already muted) and go puke….yet another staged event….take your socialism/marxism to europe…they love it there….
I stopped listening to Rush because he had this bho on with this speech. I don’t watch or listen to him on the tube or radio. I am sick to death of him on every single day 24/7!
L
Who does the fool think he is fooling? Himself?
I notice Obamao likes the words “I” and “me” a whole lot more than he does “the consent of the governed”.
The reason people grow sick of BHO, once you figure all he dies is lie, people shun liars.
Me, too. I would have been embarrassed if someone had walked into the office while THE WON was speaking. I can’t stand this.
Yeah…here they come with their finest feather swords.
Today I found out that the feds will not allow my very ill mom to buy gap insurance that she desperately needs, while learning here that the feds are about to require others to buy insurance that they desperately don’t want.
This country is so screwed up.
Just a happy note from Texas…
on ballot propositions regarding–
1. photo ID for voting
2. curbing the growth of government spending
3. reducing Federal taxes
4. acknowledging God
the voters passed each by 90%+.
On number 5, a proposal to mandate that a woman about to have a medically unnecessary abortion be shown a sonogram of her child, passed by 68%.
Ragspierre,
Hubby and myself voted yes on all five. I just wish they would have had an admendment if a person is running for another office, say a Sen. running for governor, they have to resign their job to run for the other office.
L
The real nuclear moment will be when Republicans bring up their points of order that are then challenged by the Dems who refer them to the Senate parliamentarian for a ruling which then gets overruled by Joe Biden.
If that happens and the Republicans again just sit there without a whimper, all hell will break loose for incumbents. There comes a point when the Republicans have to act out their outrage and create a big stink. (For starters, tell McCain to sit down and shut up when he makes his inevitable call to maintain Senate collegiality and comity).
This is a moral outrage – but Americans have come to expect nothing less from Democrats – but what makes it so egregious and shocking, is the media’s complicity in its perpetration!
Hopefully, if they follow through and actually try to pull it off in the Senate, this will end the political viability of all Democrats for decades to come just like it has annihilated the media’s already worthless credibility.
Thank you, ABC News!
One more reason for me to leave Hawaii and move back to Oklahoma or Texas.
What this actually is, is a Democrat Stupidity test. If you are stupid, vote Yes for Healthcare.
We’ll see how many stupid Democrats there are.
And, for those of you feeling bleak over this health-flare crapola…
here’s something to maybe frame American reality a bit more squarely…
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/not-everyone-stayed-home-during-snowmageddon-0
It helped me…
Trick question…right???
The only thing bad about OK is the occasional tornado and still a few too many illegals but otherwise I like it just fine…
So lemme see if I’ve got this straight.
1. The new plan will cover an additional 30 million currently uninsured Americans. OK, that should generate more premium dollars in.
2. The new plan will require insurance companies to cover people who are already sick or dying of serious illnesses. OK, that should cost more.
3. The new plan will not do much to stop nuisance lawsuits, and ridiculous malpractice awards. OK, that should also cost more.
4. The new plan will not cover illegal aliens, who will continue to get their primary care at the emergency room. OK, that should also cost more.
5. The new plan will protect pharmaceutical companies profits, because they have already cut a deal with the administration. OK, that will indirectly cost the taxpayers more.
6. The new plan will be administered by dozens of new government agencies, reknowned for their efficiency and profit motivation. OK, that will probably cost the taxpayers more.
Can anybody tell me how this all adds up?
Reconcilliation it is. Democrats have lined up to begin marching off the cliff. No matter what dirty tricks Pelosi,Reid,and Obama may try to get their way, in America, the people have the final say. Election day 2010 is quickly approaching. Republicans, Independants, and Tea party members will win running on the slogan “Repeal the Bill.” Democrats are now officially the Kamikaze party.
“Some see private enterprise as a predatory target to be shot, others as a cow to be milked, but few are those who see it as a sturdy horse pulling the wagon.”
Winston Churchill
…Dems see private enterprise as their sugar daddy.
“We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.”
Winston Churchill
…Obama, meet bucket.
“But I can tell you what your folly and injustice will compel us to do. It will compel us to be free from your domination, and more self-reliant than we have been.”
John H. Reagan
…Should be a Tea Party battle cry.
One fault conservatives make, that is, if they play by the rules, the other side will as well. Sorry to break the news, but a party that lies, cheats and steals it’s way into power doesn’t need any stinking rules.
And peril there will be.
They may get their “up or down vote” now, but we get ours in November.
Sucks to be them.
Today – ohhh don’t let me see even one car with an Obama sticker on it.
I really don’t think they care if they’re committing suicide. To them, government health care is a religion, and Obama is their Savior.
I wonder if he’ll threaten to pack the SCOTUS next?
Don’t forget the 16 earthquakes so far this year, Black Ice, 3.2 beer,
Baptists, Shags, and Mullets.forget about dumping tea into Boston Harbor.
Hell, we oughtta be dumping all of these worthless dollar bills into the Mississippi River.
Anyone running for office on the Federal level ought to use this as a campaign issue. Seeing as Demcare wont go into full effect it could still be repealed if there is enough of a majority to overide a presidential veto. If this is rammed through (like it looks like they might do) I say Conservatives should use this as a rally cry to get a supermajority to reverse all this nonsense.
We have to shut down Washinton and start over.
These socialist rat bastards will not get the point that they work for us until will go into town and take it back. They need a beat down and the American people are ready to give it to them.
My problem with reconciliation is that to get to it, the Senate healthcare bill has to pass the House unchanged.
Considering how much reconciliation is disliked, and how much trouble the Republicans intend to give the Democrats, what do you bet that after it passes the House, Obama stops the process, says that too much time has been spent on health care and simply signs the Senate bill, thereby giving us “healthcare” and himself a spot in history?
Anyone who has a Democrat Congressman, burn up the phones! We can’t afford to let this thing pass the House, or we’re cooked.
Dem Senators have all gone rogue. The pretense that they gives a rat’s azz about what the majority of Americans think can finally be exposed for the joke that it is. This Bill is the Senate’s suicide bomb; they will kill themselves politically, but they are taking the Country down with them. Cowards and traitors all.
Oh, no…!!! Reconciliation poses MUCH bigger dangers than just health-flare.
If this is allowed to become precedent, EVERYTHING that the Collective is DYING to pass will get jammed down the same chute.
It HAS to be stopped.
The lust of the “Progressives” will not be denied. Like a staph boil, communism must come to a head. It’s best to deal with the pain of a lancing now, squeeze out the poison and administer antibiotics.
We are in for a hard road, but it will be a good end if we can crush out this disease once and for all.
mmmmmmm yesss the Collective. Must obey the Collective. Collective gooood. Liberty bad. Resistance is futile.
Confiscation of an individual’s property for any collective is morally wrong and illegal. Certainly nothing the Founders envisioned. The fact the Dems have gotten away with it for so long is a testament to their religious entitlement narrative. The collectivists are about to learn a hard civics lesson regarding the People. Ours is a government of the People, by the People, for the People. The government serves us, if not, it should be dissolved and reconstituted – with limited powers.
Must obey the Collective. Collective gooood. Liberty bad. Resistance is
futileMANDATORY for any American…whatever their ideology…to retain anything like the freedom we were raised knowing.In the words of Col. Jessup, “Is there another kind?”
This will not wait until 2012; I have only been with the Teaparty movement in spirit- Today I make it official.
Perhaps now many of the minorities in this country will wake up and realize that this is the same tactic that has been being used on them for the last 60 or so years to make them believe Dems were their friends and were the ones standing up for them when all they were really doing was lying to them to keep them voting for Democraps …
Well guess what … the truth finally is there for all to see and people are realizing all those years nothing could have really been further from the truth …
The Dems have used the minorities for decades to stay in power by lying their butts off and figuring no one would care by the next election when they would go out and tell the same lies all over again to get re-elected …
America has finally re-awakened …
Do not ever say that the desire to “do good” by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives.
– Ayn Rand
I don’t have words for how angry I am.
I know a bunch of you good people are in Texas. Can you direct me to a website or any where else to join the Tea Party movement? I did a search on line and it didn’t come up with anything I could use.
Sorry spaceycakes. It was TOO GOOD to pass up.
http://www.google.com/search?q=texas+tea+party&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
That’ll get you started, I think. If you have trouble, let us know.
Thanks, my search did not pull up the Texas Tea Party site.
This is going to be FUN!
have at it, Flyoverman! It’s all good
I just realized that whatever we choose to dump in the Mississippi, will end up on Ray Nagin’s stoop.
If they succeed in jamming this Obamacare abomination down our throats, look out. We are facing a kamikaze Congress, amnesty and carbon taxes will follow, they have nothing to lose…..
Well duh. Do I have to take his eligibility literally?
WATERLOO!!!!
Bring.
It.
On.
yea forgot about those but even the ones near me I’ve never felt…the black ice is a problem and since I don’t drink beer…lol Never noticed the shags or mullets…guess they aren’t in my part of town….
THE ONE has today promised each of us health care equal that of the Congress.
Well, he did…!!!
Not. Holding. Breath.
National Referendum?? Referendum?? How is this not worthy of a revolution? Senator McConnell, you are too much the gentleman and not near enough a leader. Either lead or get safely behind the Patriots! I LOVE THE SMELL OF TEA IN THE MORNING!
If it can be passed by reconciliation, it can be repealed by reconciliation. Vote Dem congressmen and senators out in 2010, and Obama out in 2012.
We have to aim for a 67 seat majority in the Senate so Obummer can’t veto legislation fixing what the Dims screw up.
“Media outlets, including the Associated Press and ABC News debunked the claim thoroughly, noting that even White House officials acknowledged the president’s rhetoric shouldn’t be taken “literally.” ”
In other words, “hope and change” was a big fat lie designed to get him into office, and “your premiums will go down” and “your taxes won’t go up one dime” are in the toilet with the rest of Obama’s “promises”.
What a (political) tool.
Roger that. Yesterday, Nanny didn’t have the votes to do it, or she would have already done it.
Today, The One makes his corageously valliant stand employing his awesomely awesome oratorical genious to convince congresscritters to fight the good fight and sacrifice their political lives if necessary for the greater good of the masses against their ignorant collective will!!
Tomorrow, Nanny still won’t have the votes to do it. She won’t have them in two weeks or two months. Period.
More sound and fury signifying nothing. Keep digging BarryO! We’ll fill in the hole behind you.
Just when you thought the stench couldn’t get worse…
Obama Now Selling Judgeships for Health Care Votes?
Finally some transparency. Transparent coercion and mind boggling arrogance.
royals? no I don’t think so…tyrants maybe..
*I still firmly believe no Demcare bill in present form will make it to P-BO’s desk this year; But that doesn’t change the fact that the Democrat Party is the “Death to America” Party and must be punished severely, as well as all the RINO rat bastards that have saddled up this socialist horse over the years that P-BO now rides.
Did Obama ever push for “an up or down vote” on President Bush’s judicial nominees?
No.
He was quite content to participate in Democratic filibusters of President Bush’s judicial nominees.
He only seems to care about “an up or down vote” when it is his only hope of “transforming America” and driving us down The Road to Socialism USA
Here’s a quote from the only Constitution Obama cares about:
Socialism isn’t the endpoint. It’s just a waypoint on the road to their true destination: Communism.
On March 3rd, 2010 at 7:30 pm, jrgdds said:
Wrong.
Even with a Republican President taking office in Jan 2013, this Senate bill, if passed now, would still require a 2/3 supermajority in both houses in order to repeal it.
Why?
Harry Reid’s Manager’s ammendment. It is an unprecedented, historic power grab that makes it “out of order” to try to repeal it.
As Senator Jim DeMint said,
To me, that is one of the most offensive parts of this entire power grab.
The Democratic Socialist Communists want to pass this with 50 Senators (“+1″ Joe Biden), but require Republicans to reach 68 Senators (or more, if “squishy” Republicans don’t go along) in order to pass a rule change to repeal it. When was the last time Republicans had 68 or more seats in the Senate?
‘white coats’?…Aren’t those the new ‘Mao Jackets’?
It’s embarrassing that Michelle Malkin, Fox news, and the rest of the extreme right-wing doesn’t even know (or likes to lie) about what the nuclear option really is. It ain’t reconciliaton:
During the 111th congress, opponents of Democratic legislative initiatives incorrectly began to refer to the budget reconciliation process as the nuclear option.[6] For a discussion of the legislatively-enacted reconciliation process, which only requires a majority vote, but which – unlike the nuclear option – does not alter Senate rules, see Reconciliation (United States Congress). Before late 2009, the term nuclear option had been used only to refer to the procedure outlined below.
LINK
This bit of info has been reported everywhere. Anyone who is honestly paying attention to this debate knows this.
And btw, the entire bill isn’t being jammed through using reconciliation. Only the few changes (including many Republicans proposed) are being added using reconciliation. The Senate already voted this legislation in with 60 votes.
Are you guys even paying attention?!?
Not true. My plan will eventually go broke competing against a government option that can print money and never has to make a dime’s worth of profit to stay in business. My doctor will move to some place like Costa Rica so he can continue to make a livable wage and that’s just a bit too far to commute.
Everybody who isn’t a member of the A-list will be stuck in the same situation. Our affirmative action president will ensure we get affirmative action doctors working in third world hell-hole conditions.
On March 3rd, 2010 at 10:45 pm, tettes said:
Yes, we are.
We are paying attention to how Obama said
Are YOU even paying attention?!?
Everyone but you understands the term nuclear option has to do with taking action that will destroy the filibuster.
If you Democrats do this, the filibuster is history. Everyone but you knows this.