About the Pentagon shooter; Update: Stop playing games, MSM. John Patrick Bedell was a registered Democrat
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A nutball shot two security guards at a Pentagon-area Metro station in D.C. yesterday.
As Patterico reports, he hated Bush and littered the Internet with 9/11 Truther rants.
But just as I passed on playing the blame game with the global warmicides earlier this week, I’m not playing MSNBC/NYTimes-style “gotcha” with this one, either.
I’m with Zombie:
Now, just for a moment, let’s set aside the false guilt-by-association game everyone’s always playing. We all know that John Patrick Bedell and Joseph Stack are basically insane, plain and simple — as are any number of similar whackjobs who periodically go loco and erupt into violence. Violent psychopaths often incorporate some seemingly random overarching theme into their mindset, and on occasion that theme involves politics. Whenever someone like Bedell or Stack goes ballistic, every pundit jumps into the fray and tries to spin the outburst as “exemplifying” the political viewpoint of those with whom the pundit disagrees.
But that only rises to the level of a valid argument when a distinct pattern emerges. If, say, 5,000 suicide bombers in a row are invariably Islamic fundamentalists — well, OK, we’ve got a problem with the belief system, not just with the individuals. Yet I don’t see a pattern in these “going postal” violent outbursts which seem to happen perhaps three or four times per year, every year, no matter who’s in power or who’s president: it seems that the “philosophy” (if you can even call it that) of each of the attackers is unique, idiosyncratic and just plain illogical. Even so, if he starts shooting or killing when a Republican is president, he is deemed a left-wing psycho (see: Charles Manson); if he starts shooting or killing when a Democrat is president, he is deemed a right-wing psycho (see: Joseph Stack). But the truth is, paranoid people simply feel threatened by the external power structure in general, so they lash out at any symbol of authority, regardless of its political affiliation.
So, instead of playing the blame game so unapologetically employed by the Left when they feel they can spin things to their political advantage, I’m not going to say that Bedell’s actions at the Pentagon epitomize the leftist worldview. Rather, he was just crazy, as clearly indicated by his belief in the craziest of modern crazy conspiracy theories, 9/11 Truthism.
Are most Truthers leftists? Yes. But that doesn’t mean that all left-leaning Americans are thereby just as crazy as the most extreme among them; it simply indicates that when a leftist goes crazy in the post-9/11 era, he often gloms onto Truthism as his paranoia of choice.
Put it this way: Leftism fails as a coherent philosophy on its own terms. We shouldn’t try to wring significance from the delusional outburst of someone who just happened to be leftist. There are plenty of ways to logically disembowel Marxism and its numerous noxious contemporary offspring without having to resort to an unnecessary round of political “gotcha!”
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The Blame the Tea Party push by the MSM begins (h/t allahpundit):
CSM: John Patrick Bedell: Did right-wing extremism lead to shooting?
The Associated Press piles on.
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Update: www.Electorates.us has 180 million registered voter records available online (thanks to Anne Horrigan). Thirty-six-year-old John Patrick Bedell’s voter registration records in Hollister, CA are available for any journalist before he/she goes off and labels him a “right-wing extremist.”
Guess which party he registered under in 2005 and was actively registered under as of 2008?
DEMOCRAT.
EMID 15324137
STATESOURCE California
DATAACQUIRED 20080121
PrefixTitle MR
LASTNAME,FIRSTNAME,MIDDLENAME Bedell,John,Patrick
SOURCEIDVOTER 30048
DATEOFBIRTH 5/20/1973
PLACEOFBIRTH CA
REGDATE 20051006
GENDER M
PARTY Democrat
ACTIVECODE ACTIVE
STATUS
ResAddr1,ResAddr2,ResCity,ResState,ResZip 110 Georges Dr Hollister,CA
STATEHOUSE 28
STATESENATE 12
USCONGRESS 17
LASTDATEVOTED 20051108
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Troooooferism probably attracts nuts, not makes them.
Like Islam in prison, attracts the violent, gives them support for their violence, their angry worldview, feelings of oppression and paranoia.
Thank you, Michelle, for calling for reason from your base. I think it will be more fun to watch the insanity of those who will no doubt blame it on the tea party movement and the religious right. Let them steep in their own ignorance, and falacious proclamations.
I agree with Zombie. Using the Left’s tactics here, smearing them by association with Bedell’s heinous craziness only perpetuates the smear game.
On the other hand, he can still serve as a counterpoint, every time a Lefty tries to play this game going forward.
I agree with everything stated above with one exception… When the Left tries to paint The Tea Party movement with the actions of one of these wackos (see the comments made concerning Stark), I would say it is fair to use the thoughts of the wacko (Stark cited the Communist manifesto and was upset that Health Care Reform DIDN’T pass) as a rebuttal to their smears.
I TOTALLY agree with your forbearance, Michelle.
However, it isn’t reciprocated.
This from the Daily Beast Morning Scoop
Useful idiots are still idiots.
I don’t understand. With the advent of the new Era of Obama we should be in Nirvana by now. Why the hate? Why the rage? Why the dispair? It seems we have irresolvable conflicts erupting within the minds of the faithful.
Tragic, but this is what happens with weak indoctrinated minds incapable of original or independent thought. I expect to see more of this, especially with the expanding power of government schools.
“Officials said they’d found no immediate connection to terrorism but had not ruled it out.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,588074,00.html
Given the shooter has an “American” name, and not overtly muslime or Arab, nice to see the authorities are considering it possible that the shooting was a terrorist act.
Now, if the shooter was a muslime or Arab, then the shooting would have quickly been judged as a random act and in no way a terrorist act.
Sheesh.
THE PROBLEM, though, is that the media and the wealthy Southern Poverty Law Center types are going to make him out to be a “radical right winger.” So we MUST highlight that he is a lefty.
http://www.AntiObamaSticker.com
I am not interested in the shooter’s politics. I AM interested in his mental health history.
I’ve gotten e-mails from Mrs. M and Zombie.
I also got an e-mail from Chuckles the Dancing Clown, when I didn’t know he was a hysterical liberal, thanking me for donating via Pay-Pal.
But everyone makes mistakes.
I voted for Ann Richards over Claytie Williams because he seemed such a flaming Aggie, but for a Dem, well, she was probably more conservative than either of the two Maine senators.
Hates Bush…
Can the MSM contort themselves in linking this guy to the tea party?
The shooter was a nut. Therefore I will blame the left.
John Patrick Bedell, shake hands with that other anti-Government domestic terrorist Tim McVeigh (SPIT!) down in hell.
He’s an anti-Government, looney leftwing liberal, truther who resorts to violence to achieve his objective, just like Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, and Joseph A. Stack. No one is more violent than an upset liberal.
I’m with JD and others…his leftward and truther interests HAVE to be pushed to the fore…otherwise, the fact that he used a handgun will be the “evidence” that he’s a tea partier.
Does Napolitano know this guy is really a right-winger posing as a Progressive? Send all available forces to Texas and Idaho. Prepare assault plans. Mobilize the Civilian Purple Defense Forces….
Oh please Great Gaia Chomolungma, let him be a wingnut. Let him be a wingnut. Let him be a wingnut.
Some where a left winger got up this morning and his car was out of gas. Was that his fault? No it was the Right Wing , George Bush and maybe the oil companies.
Whiners they are and whiners they be.
Has anyone checked out Prison Planet lately? Alex Jones’ is pushing the truther narrative.This is their number 1# story on their site.
This guy was a truther? Why lump him into a generic right wing…as I recall during the Bush Administration – Code Pink handcuffed themselves to a USMC recruiting center does that Sound Pro Government? So Right Wing or he could have been Left Wing. Van Jones is a truther he isn’t Right Wing. Wasn’t their an anti government person who shot a solider because he was anti war – He wasn’t Right Wing.
How is it, that the MSM, all of a sudden has a blind spot to the fringe, they managed to whip up, and then deserted as their narrative changed to attack new targets? Looks like some people, were still holding onto the old narratives.
The MSM appears to be projecting onto others what they “May” have been responsible for themselves. They should know when you point one finger out, three more are pointing back at you.
This all sounds well and good, but in response to Zombie’s (who I have the utmost respect for) contention that:
I think the pattern can be discerned, just by using his and Michell’s own websites. When politics turns violent, it almost always manifests itself from the left. Remember Michelle’s War on Cops and Recruiters postings? Remember all the anti-war protests and invariable arrests for smashing stuff, throwing stuff and generally being a-holes? The shouting downs and pie attacks of conservative speakers on campus? SEIU beatdowns? Heck, just yesterday we were talking about the idiot demonstrators at college campuses that were throwing things and getting arrested.
If one just wants to talk about actions that result in murder or suicide (Zombie’s “3 or 4 per year, no matter whose president” I suppose), I can see the point. But if we’re talking political violence in a general sense, then I don’t think it’s difficult to find a pattern.
Conservatives and tea partiers, up to this point, just don’t act like this. Heck, when they get done with a demonstration, you don’t even need to pick up their litter.
Dear Michelle,
I am glad you are above making cheap political shots, just because a couple of leftist screwballs lost what was left of their illogical, brain-washed minds and started a campaign of terror, gunning innocent people down in the streets.
For the record, I’m not above cheap shots.
Suicide by police. He also knew that “going out” that way would splash him all over the TV news and papers and project his “beliefs”. It’s the same with the rise of murder-suicides today. Why just shoot oneself; take 1 or 2 with you and make the news.
Just because you feel paranoid doesn’t mean you aren’t being threatened by the external power structure.
In fact, I know several recent incidents first hand in which conspiracies against me by certain powers that be are more real than they should be. A little paranoia is needed from time to time.
Amazing… when left-wingers go nuts they blame Tea Partiers?
Well, the lefties still blame right-wingers for a guy that infuriated them, i.e. JFK, even though Lee Harvey Oswald was a happy Communist. History is repeating itself, evidently.
It isn’t paranoid to think you see people in the bushes when there are people in the bushes.
That is simply dealing with reality.
We like reality. We insist on it.
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Most of the presidential assassins have come from the anarchist / liberal / socialist / marxist / islamic fringes of our society. Ditto for those who try to kill others–cops, soldiers, public figures, etc. These people think that their psychotic ideas “trump” normal belief in the rights of others, societal norms, respect for life, etc. These groups also support ABORTION–not “choice”–as an act of no consequence.
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But our government–under the clueless clown Janet Napolitano–wants to focus on the serious Christians and those who believe in our Constitution as the real “threats” to others.
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And remember–JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE PARANOID DOESN’T MEAN THAT THEY AREN’T OUT TO GET YOU!
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John Bibb
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Michelle,
Does algore know you are using his amazing internet to dig up truth like this? I am NOT sure algore would approve of this…
I bet this guy really is a TEA Party Movement guy who has been planning this for years! He just registered as a Democrat to throw all those “investigative journalists” at WaPo off his trail.
That is awesome!
Assorted left media types desperately trying to link a crazed donk to anyone but the donkey party is just like how they try to link any uncomfortable weather to “global warming:” start with the cherished pre-conclusion, and then cherry-pick backwards to “prove” it.
The “logic” works like this:
1. A nutjob tried to get into the Pentagon with a gun, and tried to kill two people;
2. Tea partiers and other “wing-nuts” are nutjobs, and they like guns;
3. Ergo, the Pentagon shooter must be a tea partier!
That’s as far as the “investigation” goes before they run to press.
They are not “playing games“…
They are quite literally at war with us.
They are Communists, and they are hell-bent (literally) on “Defeating the Ultra-Right”.
Truth be damned… they will tell any lie necessary in order to achieve their objectives.
The Christian Science Monitor is the mainstream media?
(Shhhhh: that AP article didn’t make any assertion or inference that he’s conservative.)
On March 5th, 2010 at 2:11 pm, hunter said:
I agree, that is awesome.
To play off a line used by HotAir commenter “TN Mom” on a different topic, and use a variation of it here…
Here was the original comment, in a HotAir headline post:
+1
Seems the attempt by left wing PRESSSSident to discredit the Tea Partiers is likely to backfire. The likely result will be to cause the Tea Partiers to move towards the GOP rather than away from it.
For somebody with such issues with the government, he sure didn’t try to let his voice be heard. He hasn’t voted since 2005.
I could care less if he was registered as a democrat or a republican…he was a typical Paultard. It should be interesting to see which politician goes on TV to say how much they understand his frustrations this time.
With respect, I am most certainly not “with you or Zombie” on this one.
We’ve all experienced the near self-parodying Left…either in the U.S. or elsewhere (see: Denmark’s “we can’t criticize those nice, peaceful Muslims…or they might kill us” dhimmi mentality).
By all means, stay factual (i.e. no inventing a Tea Partier out of Mr. Stack). But call out these bums for what they are:
A “natural” (sic?) by-product of the Leftist-Hate-Machine.
To ignore this is at best self-defeating. At worst, self-destruction. Wait until they’re breaking down the door to your own home? Too late.
People need to understand how typical liberals “think.”
They don’t comprehened “left” vs “right” per se.
Simply point, they think Democrats are “nice,” and Republicans are “mean.”
It’s mean to shoot people. Therefore, he’s a Republican.
It’s mean to exterminate 6,000,000 people. Therefore, Hitler was like a “Republican.”
It’s impossible by definition for the liberal mind to comprehend complex thoughts or realities.
I genuinely believe my liberal colleagues should qualify for handicapped status because their minds simply do not comprehend functional reality.
The left has been bending the truth for so long to win arguments that no lefty feels comfortable with the truth or can face the truth. Policies based on lies will crumble. The truth has a way of being discovered.
I had no idea your voter registration carried so much personal information? All that’s missing is your social security and someone could have a new identity and your bank account. I find it offensive all that is for sale.
Well, he could have been a “blue-dog” democrat (remember them?) Or he might have accidently wandered into a tea-party rally while on the way to an Obama event, and given his sensitivity and caring — standard for democrats — been subjected to tea-party intimidation and brain-washing (remember that?) and no longer have been himself. Thus this case far from providing yet another instance of liberal\left\democrat violence goes to show how crude and violent the tea-partiers are. So the real question is:
Can you prove the above didn’t happen?
Seriously, people, you are wasting your time using logic whenever something like this happens. This is all about entrenching the vision of the left (and the pseudo-cons.) At no point and at no time is anyone on the left ever going to say: “Gosh, I guess we were mistaken. Sorry. We’ll see that it doesn’t happen again.”
We’re going to be blamed regardless so we might as well get down and dirty with them.
off topic: Breaking news…NY Eric Massa is resigning….another Dem out….
You had to figure he was a Democrat. I tuned in the news before work this morning. There was a Reporter from outside the Pentagon who tossed the story to a local Reporter outside San Jose State College. When it was reported that he went to school there, worked setting up a website for a professor (who said he was a quite type)the alarm bells went off in my head. Yes, I know we aren’t all Lib’s in the Bay Area, but someone who leaves SJ to go to the Pentagon on a whim..due to the fact that the truth hadn’t come out about his friend’s death on 9/11?
Ding Ding Ding, we have a Winner.
I was watching Fox News he has been in and out a mental institution 4 times?
So this is someone who was of a delicate mental balance.
Off topic… Was it Rush that said Steny wants Massa out because he voted against the healthcare bill last time and wants someone pro-healthcare bill appointed? That Dems knew all about Massa’s “secret”?
`Beenthere’ is right, time to get fingernails dirty. What’s a little dirt?
As Mom always said, God rest her soul, `…It washes off…’
You can send a message to Peter Grier, author of the CSM article, and let him know the nut was a Democrat.
Contact Peter Grier
HuffPo must realize the nut is a Democrat, the name Bedell is nowhere to be found on their front page.
There is not a moral cell in the body of any Dem politician. Knowing this, one cannot be surprised by anything they say, or any tragedy they will exploit. Dem pols are basically soulless.
On March 5th, 2010 at 4:13 pm, fairyfoose said:
I lost a friend on 9/11, too, but my search for truth leads me to
a completely different answer.
Do I think Bush was involved?
No.
Do I think Bill Ayers and his “family friend” were involved?
In my opinion, it appears likely.
One less vote for Obamacare. The way Democrats move mountains to change special election laws to gain seats and literally carrying dying people in to vote, this guy must have REALLY done something heinous for San Fran Nan to not try and keep him.
Watch the NY governor appoint a new Dem for his seat 5 minutes ago.
Email sent to CSMonitor “reporter”:
To: Peter Grier
Name: TexasEnginer
E-mail address: xxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Right-wing extremist?
Your “right-wing extremist” was a registered Democrat from California. Will we see a headline correction to “left-wing extremist” with a retracting statement published in just as large a type face?
I Took The Red Pill, I was not calling names or implying that. One of my sisters worked for Marsh and McClennan. She said they only thing they found of her old Boss was his ring finger, with the ring on. Tears me up just to write that.
A lot of the kids who go to Bay Area Colleges are Wing Nuts. They were out demonstrating yesterday and some on a major freeway running thru Oakland, laying down on the freeway.
One woman driver was heard to have said, `Pepper spray them and run over them. I have places to be.’ They played her voice on the hourly news. Well, that seems a bit harsh.
But a lot of the “students” were professional rent-a-mob. It’s been that way for years at every Bay Area Demonstration.
J.P.Bedell was surely influenced by such intellectuals.
When one is a godless Marxist, the ends justify the means. Lying, flat out, bald lies, are entirely acceptable to promote the meme that opposition to Obama’s hatred of America equates to insanity and violence.
Massa the Gay Harrasa on his way out.
Good.
Flaming commie before he was just flaming…
Against politicizing these acts or not, the simple fact remains that there is a statistical link between “Liberalism” and violent psychopathic and sociopathic tendancies.75%-80% of felons in this nation describe themselves as Liberals and/or Democrats.
Of course he is not a right winger, he used a 9mm.
BTW, great head shot whoever did it. It saved the tax payers millions.
BZO, or Die!
So many deleted comments.
Jeddite, I noticed that, too. People, People, a little decorum. Or are the Trolls out?
Leatherneck…
I raise my 1911′s in salute to your reasoning!!
Semper Fi!
It’s impossible for me to buy into the idea that he was a left-winger, once I’d heard his decidedly libertarian audio comments, or looked at his wish list at Amazon, which is full of a mixture of not just conspiracy kook literature, but of libertarian economics books, a pro-Goldwater book, and several other books about prominent conservatives. It just doesn’t jibe with his party registration.
I’m not trying to claim he was either left or right wing, and in fact think it’s rather ridiculous to do so. . . It seems plain that what likely drove him is not political affiliation, but mental illness mixed with inappropriate self-medication.
Thank you #85 TexasEngineer, and back at you with those 45′s.
On March 5th, 2010 at 5:46 pm, Leatherneck said:
Of course he is not a right winger, he used a 9mm.
Heyyy-My husband the former Marine has a 9mm..and he’s NOT a koolaid drinker.
LoL
The Truth “doesn’t count” ~ Maxine Waters –to leftist, socialists, democrats.
“Perception is their reality”. They live in a dream world of their own making.
What is ‘BZO’?
If Reid or Pelosi were to go postal the dinosaur media would describe them as right-wing extremists.
The same clowns, who when asked in a poll before the 2008 election if they approved of Obama choosing a woman (Palin) as his running mate said “yes”, would buy it.
Back in the ’60s the radical left had a legitimate excuse. LSD. Maybe the present reality challenged progresso’s mothers were tripping. Would explain a lot.
On March 5th, 2010 at 5:33 pm, fairyfoose said:
I didn’t think you were, and I didn’t take any offense to what you said. (Sorry, I should have been more clear about what I meant by what I was saying.) I understand what you were saying about the left. I’m just saying that the same scenario (losing a friend in the 9/11 attacks, and searching for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about what happened and who was behind it) led me to a very different conclusion than the “truthers” who blamed Bush and said “fire can’t melt steel”.
I believe that 9/11 was executed by Islamic Jihadists, but I also believe that there is more to the story than that. I believe that Communists in both Russia and the U.S.A. knew about (and probably helped plan) the attacks before they were carried out. I believe that that Communists in our government covered up and destroyed evidence. What do you think was so damning that Sandy Berger had to steal documents from the national archives and destroy them? If the Democratic Socialist Communists had nothing to hide, then Sandy Berger’s mission would not have been necessary.
Fitting that the lies the media love to tell is under George Soros’ owned Progressive Insurance banner.
Not to suggest that there is a pattern but just to work at filling in the portrait of who this dude was…when I heard him speak in a video, my gaydar ’bout jumped off the table.
I noticed the same thing Red Skeptic, the CSM sure ain’t mainstream. However, the MSM ain’t fallin’ over themselves to point out the perp was a DEM, either. Now if he was a Tea Partier, wanna bet how loud the MSM would howl?
Nothing to see here, move along.
Turns out Mr Bidell suffered from Bipolar Disorder as well as Manic Depression. His family and friends had been trying to get him into treatment for years. In other words this had absolutely nothing to do with politics. People with these problems struggle to cope with the pressures of day to day living, leave alone worry about a political agenda.
Why do we get sucked into political discussions about people like Stack and Bidell? Conservatives claiming he was an unhinged leftie are as ludicrous as MSM calling him a right-wing extremist. This is a sad story about a cognitively and emotionally challenged individual who did not get the help they needed. Nothing more or less.
No they are certainly NOT ludicrous when the ‘claim’, (it isn’t some unproven ‘claim’ it is simply the truth!), is made in REACTION to the claim made by leftist lame stream leftist media, (we’re talking AP and CS Monitor not huffpo’s). If they had not broached the LIE in the first place, very little of this nut case’s political affiliation would likely have been mentioned in these circles…but we’ll never know now will we?
Lying has become the stock and trade of leftist ‘journalism’. Is their lie here any different than when they lied about Trig Palin being Bristol Palin’s child? Same thing – BE QUICK TO LAUNCH THE LIE – then sit back and deny responsibility for saying it. Despite totally debunking the LIE about Trig – it lives on and so will this one.
Lies are what leftists are all about; it is what commies are all about. Back in the 50′s I didn’t know there was any difference between the word ‘commie’ and ‘liar’!
Dead on, Swede. This is a sick person; nothing more. They are disturbed, because they are. Politics from either direction did not make them do what they do. It is merely an excuse they latch on to.
I agree with on the waste of time it is to discuss these people in a political sense. Further, I think we need to pick and choose how we spend our time on this site. For example, I fail to see how spending any time discussing Michelle Obama or her appointmens secretary accomplishes anything.
They are not going to swing the next election so why spend time on them? We need focus, we need to address the high value issues and key people. Just my opinion.
I was reading the early reports of the shooting via the ASSociated Press. Apparently, the shooter walked up to the cops and pulled a gun out and started shooting. The cops returned fire with semi-automatic weapons.
The shooter had two 9mm semi-automatic pistols and the cops had .40cal semi-automatic pistols. Somehow it was important to the authors of the early AP reports to emphasize the cops had scary and evil semi-automatic weapons while the poor misunderstood perp/victim only had a gun.
Good thing the perp/vic didn’t run over the cops with a SUV or Ford would have been called out by the AP that they built an evil vehicle that now runs over law enforcement officer when left to its own devices.
I was gone from a computer all day yesterday (Yay for me!) but wanted to catch up with MM. RedDog, this is soooooooo true of indoctrinated minds.
As I listen to conservative talk shows, I can hear what the results are of public-skool brain-washing are — no cognitive skills, unable to argue intelligently, and ending their side of the argument with “Yur so stoopid”. Yeah, that is what we have now.
Postal is passe’, now its, going Demo.
If the nutcase shoe fits, let them wear it.
There was a time that the Christian Science Monitor produced very thoughtful and compelling news reporting and analysis. I was personally shocked at the allegation made by the CSM story that Bedell was a right-wing extremist and I sent the writer of the story an e-mail condemning his lack of professionalism and misuse of easily obtainable facts. We who post here know that violence has come from the left for decades and this CSM story is nothing but Bostonian tripe from another newspaper that has bitten the dust in the hands of liberals.
I do not like having to react to the lies from the left, but they do have to be refuted otherwise they become part of a pattern where some liberal analyst will quote from someone else or summarize a bunch of stories into a study – like the global warming advocates did to make their study more credible. Unfortunately, even a little lie snowballs and becomes real.
I agree that Michelle’s post and subsequent thread is in reaction to the wearying meme from MSM that virtually any violently unhinged whackos are right wing radicals, and MM and folks here are correct to call them on that nonsense and hold them accountable.
IMHO, going beyond that and pinning a Leftnut lable on him is another issue. I have worked with people with the same bipolar and manic depressive disorders Bidell suffered. They are caused by chemical imbalances in the brain, leading to extreme emotional and cognitive difficulties – and criminal acting out with violence is common. Most often it is hereditary, but it can also be caused by drug abuse or physical and/or psychological trauma. The only political connection seems to be he was registered Democrat, but didn’t belong to any activist groups, didn’t rant about Bush or neo-cons – didn’t even vote since ’05. (Arguably the most polarized elections of a generation)
As Flyman suggests, with Stack and Bidell any polital agenda in their thinking is superfluous to a much deeper underlying problem. And none of this advances the critical dialog of the day we ought to be focussed on.
I have been very amused this morning looking at comment posted at Huffpo and others. They are dancing around the matter of his voter registration. Typical lines like “He thought himself a libertarian….Like Beck” to which some wag would respond “He was a 911 Truther…Like Van Jones” Others will use his mental problems to schreech about the lack of services for the mentally ill. They go silent when it is revealed he lived with mommy and daddy in a gated golf course community.And paying for care was not an issue for him. I do not expect the MSM to jump on his registered democrat status however, it does not fit their agenda.
I am convinced that at this point in our country’s history, groups like the Huffpo could politicize a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
It is truly amazing.
I agree that Bedell’s political compass is irrelevant. My anger is directed only at the lame lying leftist state run media, not at Bedell and certainly not his family who sincerely appeared to try to avert disaster.
MSM are the ones who will falsely insert political affliation into a story whenever it conveniently suits their agenda. They’re the ones who insert race or gender or income or age or whatever they think they can get away with in order to polarize people.
I view the ‘left-right’ political spectrum perhaps a little differently than most because I envision us standing on a sphere not a flat plane.
Conservatives who believe that a limited government is the best government and that our God given Liberty is supposed to be protected by the Constitution – stand smack on the top at the middle – the most stable position. The further you stand away from there in either direction you eventually reach a point where you cannot hold on anymore and you fall OFF! The nut cases are the ones who fall off. They are therefore no longer standing anywhere politically no matter which side they fell from and discover that they are all in the same pile.
An example of a pile that fell off are the so called ‘truthers’ – they came from both sides.
So very true…and on the other side of the sphere, 180 degrees away, stand the fascists. I believe those whos stray too far to either to the left or the right will find themselves abusing government powers to ensure their “vision” is carried out.
Facism is left-wing. Their ideas of government are pretty much socialism too; hence, national socialism party. Instead of government owned businesses, they allow private business, controlled by the government, like our government motors. Socialists didn’t want to be identified with the nazis, especially the Soviets, so it became “right wing”.
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Without getting very theoretical about this, nearly all the actual politically related violence in the US is performed by people on the left, and the people with whom they sympathize.
It’s not a perfect monopoly. But it’s close enough to be meaningful.
And they should have their noses rubbed in that fact at every possible opportunity.
The latest lame CYA from the CSM:
I guess an implied “incoherent ideology” is that of the Democrats…
A check of AP shows no realization that Bedell was a Democrat in good standing…
Great post. The sphere analogy is dead on. The point I was trying to make is that the MSM trying to paint these guys as right wing radicals gets me royally ticked off too. And I like to believe we are on a higher plane than that swill, and shouldn’t be trying to paint people like Stack and Bidell as leftnut radicals – which IMO makes us look as shallow as them. As I suspected, we are on the same page.
Personally, I consider a PBJ to be a conservative delacacy, but the key is in the method of assembly. Some put the peanut butter on one slice and jelly on the other, then mate the two. This is a liberal/progressive method resulting in a socialist sandwich.
A conservative spreads the jelly on top of the peanut butter, then applies the top slice. The results may look and taste the same, but the latter is clearly more conservative.
You must make sure that you add equal amounts of peanut butter to jelly. Bread must be inspected so that neither one has an advantage over the other, such as a small hole, or 1 slice is a millimeter bigger than the other. And, finally, both must be a premium brand, or a discount/store brand. Applying a premium brand to a discount brand is “racist”.
grey, I beg to differ, but this is a RINO principle. Since the peanut butter is your protein source, copious ammounts are required. Trying to bring the jelly mass to match that of the peanut butter will result in an excessively oozy jelly situation inevitably leading to shirt stains analogous to AGW, amnesty or fiscal irresponsibility in the GOP.
Responsible restraint in jelly/jam application is clearly called for.
Swede, as you know, consequences are never considered when it comes to equality. If you continue to put more peanut butter vs jelly on your sandwich, the jelly may have to be “bussed” to the other slice of bread.
gray, I think your equality principle sounds a lot like moral equivalence, but OK. If you want to plant your flag here, you will have to decrease the ammount of peanut butter to achieve the fiscally responsible level of jelly required. If you figure protein deficiency to be acceptable, fine. So be it.
PBJ…sorry, but here is where I show my anarchist side. The peanut butter must be chunky and you have to slap it down on both slices of bread. A incongruous swipe of the knife may or may not spread it out but there is no time to evaluate. The jelly (preferrably preserves but never jam)is placed in the middle then both sides are placed together then rolled like a burrito or a jelly roll…
(tune of “If you’re happy and you know it”)
Oh, I wish I was a juicy jelly roll.
Oh, I wish I was a juicy jelly roll.
When you squeeze me,
I would squirty onto everybody’s shirty.
Oh, I wish I was a juicy jelly roll.
Ok, maybe not my anarchist side, but definitely my immature side…come to think of it, most anachrists are just immature.
On March 6th, 2010 at 1:24 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:
Isn’t the very basis of any trial in our judicial system the seeking of
“the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth”?
Yes, it is.
So I’ve always had an issue with people mocking those who seek the truth.
Now, the people who claim “fire can’t melt steel” aren’t really seeking the whole truth, because fire most certainly can weaken steel to the point where a structure collapses.
So, I don’t refer to those people as “truthers”, but rather as victims of BDS.
No one here has ever called me a “truther”, but I have been someone who has sought “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” about the 9/11 attacks. And, once again, I challenge anyone to disprove even a single one of the Truth statements here.
We know that the left frequently uses projection (projecting their own faults on Republicans). And we also know that the best defense is a good offense. Now ask youself what is the best defense for a Democrat with something to hide? Easy – use projection and claim that the Republicans have something to hide.
The Republicans take the bait, and focus on defending themselves and disparaging anyone who seeks more information about 9/11. It never occurs to them that the accusations of cover-up may actually be true on the other side of the aisle…
Who was it that stole documents from the National Archives and destroyed them? Was it someone from the Bush administration? No. It was the National Security Advisor from the prior (Democratic) administration.
Now, this is the sort of thing that brings on the MSM and HufPo allegations of right wing extremism. While I also prefer chunky PB, smooth PB is not a compromise per se, and there is enough room in the tent for both groups.
As for applying the PB to both slices with jelly in the middle, (btw, jam consumers should not be ostracized) you have crossed the line here. By its very definition such a sandwich would no longer be a PBJ, but a PBJPB. Have you lost your mind?
And rolling the whole thing into a “jelly roll” breaches the norms of civilized behavior. But sounds llike fun. Might try it today.
GOP should use the “Juicy Jelly Roll” ditty as their campaign song.
The socialist would take your most of your PBJ because he knows better than you. Then he would redistribute the rest of your sandwhich to people who did not earn it.
You may hear from the NAAJP (Nat’l Assoc. for the advancement of jelly people), wanting “affirmative action” for jelly, preserves, jam and other oppressed fruit products.
Man, I gotta have some PBJ now…
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1639351
Nothing like a little music to help the digestion
GADAHN CAUGHT!!!!!!
LINK
Hell yeah!