Will Stupak be bought on Demcare?
Conflicting signs on pro-life Democrat Rep. Bart Stupak’s stance on Obamacare negotiations:
Plus: At a town hall meeting last night, he told constituents that the briber-in-chief had invited him to the president’s box to watch a Russian opera performance. Stupak said he turned down the invite.
Minus: He told an AP reporter in between meetings yesterday that he’s growing “more optimistic” that he can cut a deal on government abortion funding in the bill that will make him happy.
Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) said the White House and the Democratic leadership in the House of Representatives have been pressuring him not to speak out on the “compromise” abortion language in the Senate version of the health care bill.
“They think I shouldn’t be expressing my views on this bill until they get a chance to try to sell me the language,” Stupak told CNSNews.com in an interview on Tuesday. “Well, I don’t need anyone to sell me the language. I can read it. I’ve seen it. I’ve worked with it. I know what it says. I don’t need to have a conference with the White House. I have the legislation in front of me here.”
…In his interview with CNSNews.com on Tuesday, Stupak said that the White House “asked me just to hold off for awhile and not to say anything about this language. But as soon as the news broke that they had this [compromise], and they got the 60 votes, folks were asking me, and I’m not going to run from the issue I’m going to stand up and say, ‘Look, here’s my objections.’ Here – it’s not just my objections – but there’s a number of my [colleagues] who feel strongly about this issue, and these are the parts that have to be fixed.”
Stupak said he is not alone in being pressured from the White House and the House Democratic leadership – other pro-life Democratic colleagues apparently are, as well. But they plan to hold firm, he said.
“We’re getting a lot of pressure not to say anything, to try to compromise this principle or belief,” Stupak said. “[T]hat’s just not us. We’re not going to do that. Members who voted for the Stupak language in the House – especially the Democrats, 64 Democrats that voted for it – feel very strongly about it. It’s been part of who we are, part of our make up. It’s the principle belief that we have. We are not just going to abandon it in the name of health care.”
“We are not just going to abandon it in the name of health care.”
Good time to remind him of his words.
Stupak’s contact info:
2268 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225 4735
(202) 225 4744 – Fax
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When he telegraphs that he can be made “happy” the answer is obvious.
The Three Great Lies
“The check is in the mail.”
“I’ll respect you in the morning.”
“We are not just going to abandon it in the name of health care.”
I am sure Stupak is as principled as that Great American Senator, Ben Nelson. /sarc
The theory held by some that there are still any elected Democrats left who are honorable men/women who put the Constitution and the Country above the plans of the Democrat party was disproved many years ago. There are no DINOs (Democrat in name only). The approval of the healthcare bill is only a matter of time, when the right arms are twisted, the bribes are distributed, or the stray politician purged it will be passed. Elections have consequences and the American people are about to be reminded of that truth the hard way. The only hope left is we can survive long enough to rid ourselves of this Congress and this President and then repeal this disaster (and I have my doubts about a Republican President and Congress having the guts to do that).
What does National Right To Life think of this “compromise”.
Keep in mind that National Right to Life should be opposed to Obamacare in general, because it will impose QALY calculations into decisions over life-sustaining care. Arguments over life are not just about abortion, after all.
Will Stupak make his deal if National Right to Life threatens to sit it out the next time he is up for re-election?
We should find out.
There’s method in the Dem’s madness. Get these blue dog yokels to vote for something that’s sure to get them defeated in the next election. Then replace them with “real” lefties in the next couple of election cycles … kind of a back door purge of middle of the road, and conservative democrats.
His mail box is full…
I will call a staffer at 9:00, not just to talk to a staffer, but to tell them to empty the mail box…
I don’t know if anyone else has read this, but why are we harping such praise on Stupak when he and others in his coallition, have been silently and willingly consenting to federal money for organizations like Planned parenthood in the budget?
Voting pro-life on one issue just because its in the public eye, does not make him or those who vote with him, true pro-life legislators.
Stupak’s difficulty is that he has become so high profile on this issue that any change will get attention and any new language will be carefully reviewed.
Ben Nelson was supposedly pro-life but got conned by what Sebelius later bragged was an accounting gimmick.
And it’s not just the language – it’s how to get it in. He knows that he can’t rely on a promise that it’ll get into reconciliation, because this is a policy matter, and reconciliation can only be used to reduce the deficit.
He has to know some kind of amending legislation would never make it past the Senate liberals and would only be introduced “in the near future.” Like never, once Obama has signed the Senate version.
Just another opportunistic Democrat. No reason for anyone to hang their hat on any Democrat to do the right thing.
Of course Stupak will be bought . . . he’s a Democrat and they’re always on sale on the budget rack. This poor sick Republic is heading into the Abyss.
Absolutely! I am reminded of this everyday. I no longer trust my government. I have become suspicious of their intent. They say one thing but mean another. We have the heathcare battle over here, and the immigration battle is just over the hill. Do we have a General Washington to lead us?
Stupak will be the House’s version of Ben Nelson.
Stupak will fold like a lawn chair. He’s playing to his base right now.
What he doesn’t realize is he will be stabbed in the back by his so-called “fellow” democrats who promised him everything but will deliver nothing.
Could someone please clarify something: If any, and I mean ANY wording is added to the Senate bill, doesn’t this mean it has to go back to the Senate before it reaches Obama’s desk? If it goes back to the Senate, it won’t get past a fillibuster (assuming the GOP stands firm, of course). What am I missing?
There won’t be reconciliation. If it passes the house, it becomes law. Period. Obama get his healthcare bill. It doesn’t matter to him what’s in it. And he does not care about lost seats either.
If it becomes law, talk about health care by the liberals, will quietly go away.
I still think that this whole healthcare bill is a way to get the bulk of the middle class on to the welfare role, by hook or crook.
And to raise taxes to astronomical proportions…a democrat standard.
Yes, it would have to go back to the Senate.
Reconciliation requires that the House pass the Senate bill unchanged (no Stupak, Cornhusker Kickback, etc.) Then the president signs it.
Then they move to reconciliation, which can only be used to reduce th deficit and not on policy matters like Stupak.
So they would have to have some kind of separate bill with the new Stupak language pass the House AND Senate (and there the liberal senators such as Boxer and Feinstein would no doubt object.)
So the big vote really is the House vote. Once that’s done, Obama will pivot to jobs or shamnesty. The promises to do reconciliation or some other legislation will be take up “in the near future.” Which means never.
And the House Dems, including Stupak and his group, know this. The problem is how many voters know this and would punish them in the fall.
Oh for cryin’ out loud. One day it’s not going to pass, the next day it is. This has been going back and forth, back and forth until I am sick to death of it. Dog.and.pony.show. Anyone who takes any of these predictions seriously hasn’t been paying attention. It’s like a soap opera for mental midgets.
If Stupak is so set agains abortion, why did he vote to fund Family Planning? Family Planning is more about abortion then planning. Stupak is getting his 15 minutes of fame and in the end will be bought off, it’s the name of the game. Your best bet is never trust a democrat!
Been watching this one real close… After all the smoke clears, and the crowds all go home, and you appraise all his ABORTION rhetoric, this WEASEL will be bought and cast his VOTE with O-BOZO’S “HEALTH REFORM”…
What is significant to me is without regard to abortion, how there can be so many people prepared to vote for a system that, without regard to political philosophy, is so demonstrably inefficient, expensive, cumbersome, unresponsive, and unsustainable it has as likely to succeed as launching the shuttle Challenger at -20 degrees and expecting it to go to the moon and back.
“America, you are go for throttle up.”
Congress is Jonestown.
In a word….Yes.
He is going to cave Michelle. The Dims are drinking the Kool Aid.
They are going over the cliff in lockstep.
Of course he’s going to cave…but it was all talk to begin with. I don’t know the point of all this drama…
You can’t make this s*!t up!
Well, I guess that answers the “will Stupak be bought” question. But hey, he’s a Democrat – and given their recent history (Louisiana, Nebraska, etc), were we to expect anything less?
Despite the fact that just about everyone else with any knowledge of the reconciliation process says abortion funding can’t be addresses in reconciliation and therefore it gets funded in this vapor-ware bill.
NJ-Aviator, I heard the same thing.so what’s up?
My brother went to school with him. Menominee Michigan is a small town and it would be easy to bribe him. He can buy Pelosi’s words about nothing in the bill about abortion, take bribes for the poor town in the UP and its done.
There are so many quotes that just seem to apply to Mr. Stupak. Are all of these really from George Bernard Shaw?
Oh, yes you are. “Standing on my principles” in donk-speak means, “You haven’t reached my reserve price yet.” They’ll sell out — the only question is when, and for what.
Or as someone else once described the so-called “blue dog” donks:
They bark,
They don’t bite;
They roll over,
And they play dead.
I believe Rush pointed out that there won’t be a “reconciliation” bill. If the House passes the Senate bill it is done. Pelosi and Reid and Obama will spend the next 7 months running away from any “health care bill” they manage to ram through against the consent of the governed.
I am attending a “town hall meeting” tonight and I hope to get a chance to remind my crapweasel rep that this is a disaster for America. Of course, he knows and doesn’t care…
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Why would anyone of sane mind–or anyone who has studied Comrade Obama (PBUH) and our supposed “representatives”–believe that most of them are working for us? Most of them are taking very good care of themselves as they sell us out–most became multi-millionaires during their “service” in the House and Senate. They are poster people for term limits–6 years is enough.
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A prostitute has only one thing to sell–herself. And most politicians have only their votes and influence to sell. Ask yourself how President Bill Clinton and his lovely wife Hillary are now worth over $113 Million? By being really thrifty on their government salaries? By great business skills? What are their marketable talents?
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Yes–our “representatives” are going to cut deals for themselves and will fold like a piece of wet spaghetti. The only saving grace will be the anger and outrage of the uninformed taxpayers when the tax hikes and inflation kick in. And as “funemployment”, underemployment, and wild inflation take more of our wealth for Comrade Obama and his ilk to REDISTRIBUTE to themselves.
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The Messiah did promise to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM the U.S.A.–and He is “on track” to make it into the new United Socialist States of Amerika–or into Venezuela II or Cuba II. Teaparty these evil clowns at all opportunities. Vote them out in the 2010 and 2012 elections.
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John Bibb
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Barf. I have nothing against Russian opera itself, but to be invited to anything Russian by the Communist-in-Chief would make me vomit.
Why didn’t Obama offer to introduce him to Vladimir Putin and the Russian military officials he met with while visiting nuclear and biological weapons sites in Russia, Ukraine, and Azerbaijan?
Those who can’t handle the truth,
try to silence those who speak it.
What is our future under the Progressive Model?
Detroit has had years of Progressive governing. Welcome to Cambodia
When will someone like Tom Harkin proclaim, “This is the year, Zero.”
On March 9th, 2010 at 10:10 am, Flyoverman said:
Ouch. Painfully accurate analogy.
Does everyone realize that Jonestown was a “Liberation Theology” cult?
Kind of like the “church” that Obama attended for 20+ years…
On March 9th, 2010 at 10:45 am, FireBlogger said:
“drinking the Kool Aid” is another reference to Jonestown.
Quick! Someone take away their Kool Aid and replace it with TEA!!!
Bet he folds like a cheap suit, he’s a Democrat, just saying………..
The house has to either accept the senate bill in total and sign off on it, and that will be signed by the pres. All this other talk is just dust thrown up to obscure the vision of those looking at this process. No reconcilliation, no change of senate rules, no additional bill to fix the senate bill. Just a straight up or down vote on the senate bill in the house. Elections have consequences, too many middle of the roaders voted for hope and change, and too many conservatives stayed home rather than vote for mccain.
Screw his happiness, what about the constituents?
Wethal’s post covers it pretty well.
With these weasels, nothing is ever for sure. When you have no principles, any deal is possible so long it lines their pockets and “messages” well.
The Patriot Post humor newsletter today had an amusing comment on the substance of our illustrious Congress:
One day a florist went to a barber for a haircut. After the cut, he asked about his bill, and the barber replied, “I cannot accept money from you; I’m doing community service this week.” The florist was pleased and left the shop.
When the barber went to open his shop the next morning, there was a “thank you” card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door.
Later, a police officer came in for a haircut and, when he tried to pay his bill, the barber again replied, “I cannot accept money from you; I’m doing community service this week.” The officer was happy and left the shop.
The next morning when the barber went to open up, there was a “thank you” card and a dozen donuts waiting for him at his door.
A Congressman came in for a haircut and, when he went to pay his bill, the barber again replied, “I can not accept money from you; I’m doing community service this week.” The Congressman was very happy and left the shop.
The next morning, when the barber went to open up, there were a dozen Congressmen lined up waiting for a free haircut.
And that, my friends, illustrates the fundamental difference between the citizens of our country and the politicians who run it.
Speaking of insufferable weasels, here is Charlie Crist insinuating that Mark Rubio is using GOP money to get his back waxed.
That is about as slimy as you can get. Without a sliver of evidence he just blurts it out for effect hoping it gains traction. Crist is one desperately sleazy politician. He also gives Emanuel and Graham a run for “the most effeminate politician in Washington”.
IMO, there is very little honor in dc. We have a precious few who will not give in for bribes for a vote, most will. This bho, team, and the d’s think we will forget who votes for this horrible bill, YOU are wrong! Every day new crud comes out trying to distract us. We citizens do all we can possibly do to stop this and those in dc are going to get it done come he!! or high water. I believe stupak will cave as well as others to pass this.
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The Idiot American Electorate is about to be put to a severe test:
In November, will it have the intelligence, the memory, and the fortitude to vote out of power those felons who are about to pass the ObamaCare monstrosity into law?
A troubling question.
I really hate to say this, but we could use a terrorist attack right about now. I don’t see what else could stop these inter-generational thieves.
Here’s how we defeat this, using the now tried and true Cloward/Piven method to overwhelm the system.
If the bill passes, everyone change their withholding to zero. Refuse to file taxes, refuse to pay taxes. There aren’t enough IRS agents to handle all the cases. As it is now, it takes YEARS for the IRS to come after you.
If the case comes to court, cite religious reasons for refusing to pay taxes. I can’t donate ONE PENNY to the cause of killing babies. Not one.
It’s like that old joke about a woman’s virtue and profession…the one with the punchline: We’ve already established that. Now we’re haggling about price.
I agree. Kill ‘em all and start over. Where’s a good jihadi when you need one?
Phil, I wish you hadn’t started on Crist. Every time he intrudes into my consciousness, I have to put a new fuse in my gaydar.
Hmm, angry and fed up with the negative views of himself and his delusional dreams, Jim Jones wanted everyone to go down the toilet with him. Does this sound like the Dems today – angry at the public who no longer believe in his hope and change, orders have gone out to the Dems to vote for Obamacare, even if it means political suicide.
What do you have against Barney Frank?
These liberals are negotiating the financial destruction of our Country like its some harmless Senate Resolution. The 800 pound gorilla in the room, is that the American people don’t want this bill. Representative government??? What a flipping joke, unless you mean that liberals are representing Karl Marx and Mao Zedong.
Stupak is as Stupak does….
Matthew 7:16-20 (King James Version):
16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Stupak’s 2008 ADA rating is 90%. He assured me he would not vote for the House Bill, but flipped and voted for it. His messages to constituents are filled with alleged cries from anonymous “employers” telling him they can’t afford their ballooning insurance premiums. Will he vote with Obama now? Yup, you can count on it!
I wouldn’t have gone to a russian opera either. I don’t think that’s a plus for his healthcare voting – it’s more of a sign that he has decent taste.