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Hi All,
Well I’ve been off the radar since the Oministartion took over GM illegally. Anything important been going on since then?
That was 234 years ago… and equally true today.
This is related to ‘Projection‘ which we have all witnessed from the left.
It is about ‘Attribution‘. Study up on it. We see it everyday.
“In some experiments, for example, subjects were shown only one side of a conversation or were able to see the face of only one of the conversational participants. Whomever the subjects had a better view of were judged by them as being more important and more influential, and as having had a greater role in the conversation.”
Sorry about using Wikipedia, but it’s aplace to begin investigation.
I’m still shorting out circuits because of Spring time change. Been up since 4:30 and cranky. Our superiors in D.C. had better be good today or I’m going to run for office – they need a conservative woman that’s on a short fuse.
Is anyone going to complete the Common Core State Standards Initiative Survey?
Chris Wallace going soft on Gibbs to let him spin without challenging him WH’s job offer to Sestak.
I’ll be your campaign manager. We’ll need more hopey changy campaign slogans. “A conservative woman that’s on a short fuse” is a good start. How about:
Vote 24K!
A conservative woman with a hair trigger.
A conservative woman with a rolling pin, and she knows how to use it!
A conservative woman with short circuits. Maybe not.
An angry conservative woman who has been up since 4:30 a.m. No…
Have you ever made moose stew or hunted wolves from a helicopter? We need more material.
Ah yes, the great Chris Wallace. Another nut that didn’t fall far from the tree. Don’t understand how you can be disappointed though, gave Gibbs the opportunity to talk about hockey, bets, and jerseys. I love Gibbs, something about that thin lipped smirk that never leaves his face I suppose. Nothing says “I crapped in my pants but you don’t know it” like that smirk.
Obama is now starting a campaign for a comprehensive federal takeover of education (Marxist indoctrination) in America. I wonder if the timing has to do with Texas’ re-introducing the teaching American exceptionalism into the Texas curriculum.
I don’t know, I had a great week! On Monday I worked an event for our future Governor with Jeb Bush (got a picture too); Wednesday I spent two hours with Grover Norquist; yesterday I worked a St. Pat’s parade, and this Saturday Evening I will be with Paul Ryan, the Rock-Star of the GOP; I’m having a ball!
He grills Karl Rove unfairly while he treats another former COS of Clinton – Podesta (who bashes Fox all the time) with respect on the panel. SHAME.
If you live in a congressional district represented by a Dimocrat, or a state with a Dimocrat Senator up for re-election this year, then you, or someone like you, needs to be running for office right now.
Obama and his bunch know there will be some major changes in next January’s congress, so they are making as many “takeovers” as possible now.
FOXNews staff is just as liberal as the rest of the “lamestream” media. The only real difference between FOXNews and the others is that a number of the pundits (Hannity, Beck. and a few others) lean toward conservative.
Don’t run for office, if you value your morals and principles.
I agree, especially the weekend Fox anchors.
Went to a fantastic class on the constitution yesterday.
Kris Kobach teaches law at UMKC and was our instructor. He also testified recently on behalf of the Health Care Freedom Amendment pending ‘committee’ in KS.
He’s also running for Secretary of State in Kansas. (I live in MO but will contribute.)
Among a multitude of things learned re: constitution, I learned that I need to learn more about the E-Verify system v.s. this National ID card idea floating around.
MacEamonn, just on those words alone, it’s a reason to watch FNC over all the others.
I like Fox and don’t mind yelling (“O’Reilly, you blockhead!” and “shut up Shep”…)
Can’t watch Shep Smith any more since he blasted one of the GOP Senators by saying, “My God, man, this country needs healthcare! Why is everyone stonewalling this?” Seriously, I turned him off and never looked back. I still watch Neil Cavuto and Glenn Beck…sometimes Hannity. And I DO like the weekday Fox & Friends. By the way, I have Meet the Press on right now and Axelrod is once again bringing up a “letter from the son of a woman who died of a hangnail infection because she didn’t have insurance”. Hey Axel…we KNOW there are people out there who are hurting. That is not the issue. It is the piece of CRAP legislation you are trying to force upon us that is the issue. Stop with the stupid stories already!! They are making you look really really insane.
By the way, Meet the Press this a.m. is a big love fest of dems talking up the bill like it is a gift from God. I have to go lose my breakfast now.
Maybe the GOP could come up with letters of their own:
Would the following receive this kind of consideration/care under ObamaCare:
86 year old man with emphysema/COPD who needed and received a hip replacement via Medicare.
92 year old ‘full of life’ woman who needs more stents and her doctors are leaving it up to her to decide whether or not to go through with the surgery.
…it’s all in the family.
Great idea!! Why haven’t they done that?? As a “seasoned citizen”, I have a dog in that fight! I am not yet at the age of death panel eligibility, but at 67, I have serious concerns. My Mom lived a very productive and happy life until her 80′s. She also received a stent that prolonged her very happy life when she was in her late 70′s. Would Oblobo have denied her that stent? I think he would have.
The States created federal government so one would think the States have the ultimate authority to plow it asunder.
I suggest a New Constitutional Convention be convened for the purpose of dispensing with the current federal government & rewriting our existing Constitution to make its expressed limitations on federal government as well as its guarantee of rights to the states and to the people insuperable for all generations to come.
We could wipe the slate clean too. All of the correct SCOTUS decisions could be incorporated and all the bad ones disgarded.
discarded
happyscrapper
We all have a dog in this fight. One thing we can all be certain of is aging, unless tragedy strikes. It is the reward for surviving. Only the young in the prime of their lives think it won’t happen to them.
I’m always a little nervous about talk of constitutional conventions. Not that it would necessarily be a bad thing, just that I worry about the number of Fascists and Communists (progressives) that would be seated at the table. Even a large numerical minority could create a great mischief.
Has any Republican yet protested that the Slaughter rule is unconstitutional? Does anyone believe for one moment that they will storm out if this bill passes without a vote?
What’s the point of assembling yet again for Michelle Bachmann and her friends? How about ACTING first and then seeking our support? How about if Bachmann & Friends first shout “Unconstitutional!!!”, storm out and THEN meet Tea Party protesters? No more kabuki theater!!!
Interesting on TV this a.m., all the dems are out in force about health care. But we are definitely getting mixed messages! One will say, “We HAVE the votes!” Another, when pressed, says, “We WILL have the votes”. What is it? They do this all the time. None of the have their stories straight. Is being done on purpose to try and confuse us? And why do that?
I agree…they need to lead the charge by showing some backbone! Just talk is getting us NOWHERE!!
If we had another revolution, I wonder, would traitors be tried and executed? At least sent up for life? Plenty of new jails are needed to house this crew.
Please rehabilitate the government schools also. They did their nefarious jobs way too well in the mission of brainwashing the kids. We need to get them all out of the Matrix before real progress can be made.
swede and others, I’m hoping to light the spark for our own Mrs. Malkin to run. But, you’re good and would make a fine campaign manager! Every slogan is worthy of consideration…I’ve not hunted nor killed anything from a helicopter but a willing student. My guns fit nicely in purses, haven’t mastered the art of shoulder holsters yet. As sleepy as I am I’d better stay off the range today.
We have a most excellent Constitution; the sobs won’t read this one and they won’t read another.
And support Bobby Gibbs-you don’t want him handling your food at McDonald’s!
Justice’s wife launches ‘tea party’ group – btw, that ‘s Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.
Propaganda and spin. Something that is very common in government, especially this present government.
btw, I had the local news on last night and they were doing a story on the “coffee party” that was being held in town.
We had a tea party here last fall and the numbers were over 800 in this rather small town, and not a mention on the news. Yeah, they’re real impartial.
This, to me, is the crux of the whole thing! We need to take our kids back!! They have been brainwashed, and are continuing to be brainwashed as we speak! It makes me sick to think of it! My little 3-year old grandson is so bright, and he picks up on everything you tell him and remembers it, even though it is only said once. I am amazed at the stuff he retains, just by hearing things in passing. Just think how easily influenced these kids are! They trust that adults are telling them the truth! God help those who are leading them astray! They will meet justice some day and it won’t be pleasant!
Cool strategy with black conservatives roasting the infanticide abortion industry with billboards calling them out for targeting poor black kids.
The eugenics theories of Margaret Sanger and Adolf Hitler live on in the regressive elitists of our government. Get ‘em down and keep pounding.
http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html
Anita, that’s great news about Ginny Thomas. If it’s considered a breach or conflict of interest then no citizen is safe. I don’t share the same thoughts on everything as my family. I think it’s a hoot! But, critics will kick the can down the road anyway.
Anita,
That is a wonderful article! Mrs. Thomas will get the libs undies in a wad with this. This bho made a huge mistake in the sotu address insulting the SC justices in front of the entire nation!
L
Ha, 9-nth circuit court judge’s spouse is ACLU president too.
Watching Chris Wallace questioning Eric Cantor and Van Holleran and it is so discouraging watching this lame discussion. This is a great opportunity for Cantor to declare the Slaughter rule as being UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!! Yet all he does is lamely cite the Constitution and the moment slips by. Shout it out! UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!! God, what will it take to light a fire under these weanies?!?!?
Anyone else heard about the “coffee party” movement?
Or, am I late to the game, an bringing up something old?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0313/Coffee-party-movement-Not-far-from-the-tea-party-message
One hope that Americans will be decent and sensible, and let this socialist/fascist-sounding thing
go the way of Air America.
“Coffee Party”…it even sounds so bloody lame, just like something that PBS fundraising hosts and fans of Woody Allen movies would come up with.
Morning, friends!
I have a piece up on the Sestak bribe attempt I think you’ll find interesting. This could be impeachment material, although that may be a bit grand…
http://hindenblog1.blogspot.com/
I’d love to have you guys tell me what you think of the place.
“They have been brainwashed”
Sorry but both of my kids went to public school. Both are Christians, solid believers and conservatives.
The kind of doomsday sky is falling rhetoric on this site lately one would have to think that is an impossible truth.
All of the college kids in our youth group came through public schools. And they are all just fine.
Not one of them is brainwashed.
Hope anyone? That good old conservative value?
I continue to be amazed at folks who are apparently conservative who have their collective panties in a wad and can’t seem to stop their perpetual hand wringing.
Life is good, God is in control, conservative ideals are solid and have proving over and over again to triumph.
So brighten up. And please stand in front of the mirror and smile, practice if you must, be brighten up. Now and the future are good.
*I believe the other day it was Dick Turban who said 70 folks die daily for lack of health insurance; Don’t thousands with health insurance die daily in this country?; And is the GOP so brain dead they can’t make a point of this?
*Where is the daily compelling argument put forth by the GOP, that Obamacare is a pathway to single payer, nothing more, nothing less, and not in any way an effort to systematically address the various root cause problems creating barriers between the patient(consumer) and the provider(sellers of goods and services)?
I think the backlash on Obama making that really stupid comment is going to be far-reaching. As Chief Justice Roberts said, Obama has turned the SOTU speech into a pep rally, and why should the Supreme Court even attend? He is totally correct on that. Obama thinks he can insult anyone he wants and it will have no consequences. That shows how inexperience can really start to affect your performance after a while. Obama can’t hide his stupity any longer. People are picking up on the FACT that he has no leadership skills and absolutely no clue what being POTUS is really about.
Andy McCarthy – Los Angeles Times hit job this morning by Kathleen Hennessey on Ginni Thomas – ‘s an unmitigated disgrace.
A accept the offer, subject to suitable salary negotiation. Lets start with $249K (must stay under 250 so my taxes won’t go up) and I want a cadillac health plan. (union, of course so it won’t be taxed)
You are a genius and have herein produced three more slam dunk campaign slogans:
Brilliant! Barry won on, “I’ve never really done anything, but would be a great president!”
Then be sure to have a purse with you at the debates and reach for it when Barry attacks your record.
And the coup de grâce…
Power tempered by rational restraint! Beautiful. You’re THE ONE!
Good article, Rags!! Now, Gibbs is on Wallace today. Is Wallace even asking the question about this? If not, why not??
I’m not convinced that he has any clue regarding what being an American is really about.
Ragspierre,
Good article and site. I will make an effort to visit your site daily.
L
Reminds me when I first visited a niece that I hadn’t seen in years, who was still in H.S.(2008). When we sat down at the kitchen table, her first question was “Uncle, are you a liberal or conservative?” I was taken aback for a second but replied that I was a conservative. She smiled and said, “Great!” We’ve been close since. Just did her taxes…again.
I have to say that it is being made. I hear it and read it. But the MSM is telling the party line, as I’m sure you understand.
What is being proposed is no longer going to be “insurance” in any nominal sense of that term.
Insurance considers risks, and assigns costs to cover certain risks, then spreads the risk over a population of subscribers. ObamaCare explicitly IGNORES risk, mandating that people with even pre-existing conditions will be “insured”.
Yeah, the MSM will put them right next to the stories about law abiding citizens defending themselves with firearms: in the trash.
It would be great, and very apropos, to steal that play from the Dems and hit them hard with it.
I appreciate your optomism, JS. My two daughters also went to public schools and are strong conservative Christians. BUT, I believe that is the “fault” of the parents and thier philosphy, not the public schools that are trying their darndest to push progressivism. Seriously, you need to get you head out of the sand, just a bit. If you continually say everything is just peachy-keen…then they will continue to get away with it, drip by drip, as they have been doing for generations! Some kids will be able to withstand the brainwashing because they have strong parents who pay attention to what they are being taught! Believe me, I had to fight with my daughter’s school system numerous times…sometimes winning and sometimes losing. I embarrassed my girls, but they now THANK me!! Too many parents are still leaving the teaching to the schools entirely and have no idea what goes on 7 hours a day in their child’s life.
Question
If: ObamaCare can be ‘deemed’ into law.
Then: ObamaCare could be ‘deemed’ not a law???
Thanks, Scrappy and Let…!!!
Please, drop by often, and tell your friends if you find stuff you like.
Comments are welcome, and wide open to anyone (civil).
They’re waiting for the public opinion numbers to come it…
Rags: I’m from Canada, so know all about single payer and its’ implications; It is indeed a horrid system devoid of free market, but people fail to realize the future tax implications; It WILL bring this country to an economic death spiral.
JS, it could depend on what part of town you live in – your school district.
Here’s an idea for those with kids in public school and who don’t mind using their kids as guinea pigs: in the appropriate class/subject, have them mention a conservative belief to their teacher. Find out how the teacher responded.
I did a quick & dirty search, and found nothing explicitly saying anybody found it unconstitutional.
My optimist side hopes that is because they’re too busy finding ways to fight it, and shoring up votes.
But that’s my optimist side…
I just don’t see how that can possibly work!! Why aren’t people asking questions about that?? If you can get insurance even with pre-existing conditions, who would get it when they are healthy? And, adding 30 million uninsured people but still lowering cost??? How stupid do they think we are? I still can’t fathom how many people still buy into this sham…even some of the so-called “conservatives” who appear on the talk shows. The facts are so obvious, yet they just drag out the old…”every day 70 people die because they don’t have insurance”. If this bill is passed…they still won’t have insurance for 4 years! I am becoming unhinged over this disaster!! I have to go take my meds now.
On March 14th, 2010 at 10:47 am, bjc said:Rags: I’m from Canada, so know all about single payer and its’ implications; It is indeed a horrid system devoid of free market
Indeed. But ObamaCare is only a step toward single-payer, and one that MIGHT see single-payer never arrive.
Remember, folks, this is an administration that LOVES fascist economics!!!!
The plan under ObamaCare is a model of fascism: big government in control, big business allowed to play if compliant, and big labor in the collective mix.
That model CAN be quite durable. NEVER GOOD, but durable.
swede – you’re hired. Don’t have time to explore this further ’cause I have to go to church (after the vile thoughts I’ve had all week I have a lot of ‘splainin’ to do to the Big Guy upstairs).
Opps, bjc…
Hit the wrong button thingie on my keyboard-a-jigger…
Rags, like the name Hindenblog (and a good read).
I pray quite often for forgiveness for the way I feel toward Obama, Reid, Pelosi, etc. Right now, the thoughts I have whenever Pelosi opens her mouth are not one bit Christian, and some might say “evil”. God forgive me, but I can’t help it! She is destroying my country and I hate her.
Exactly, Scrappy.
This is why it has to be a totalitarian plan, rather than allowing people to choose to participate.
Insurance companies are converted into administrators of a plan that…instead of providing insurance…simply pays for everyone’s health-care. Those of us who are healthy and make good choices are never rewarded by lower rates; those of us less lucky, and/or who make crappy choices never pay higher premiums. Because this is NOT any longer insurance, but a privately administered COMPULSORY health plan, under the direction of the central government.
Gladz, thanks!
One of my favorite blog names is Sister Toldja…but there are so many really clever ones…
Your explanation is very clear and easy to understand. This needs to get out to everyone. Send it to all on your mailing list, folks!
The insurance/health care debate has been so smushed together that it is difficult to know what any one is saying. Why should the state govs have a say in what is offered in a policy? Why do the feds want commerce across state lines except for insurance policies for health care? I think that it has gotten to the point that people feel entitled to have FREE health care. Nothing is free. Some one has to pay for it.
How many people go take every test that a doctor orders without questioning if it is really necessary? Most people don’t care how many tests they have if they are not paying for it. It’s like overeating at an all you can eat buffet to make sure to get one’s moneys worth. The more people are removed from paying directly for something, the more they will consume.
I know people who go the doctor every time they have the sniffles. They have an office visit, strep test and get a Rx filled. None of which was necessary.
The government at all levels has created this mess and now there is an opportunity to make it even worse.
It’s more on the order of a ‘Coffee Enema Party’ I believe. Or maybe that should coffee enema ‘Movement’.
In the bits of Fox News I have watched today Fox seems to be in full support of Obmamcare…….I think they are quickly becoming just another NBC.
Oh, please God, we can’t lose FOX! It is almost all we have left! I also hear many of the commentors, including Chris Wallace say they think this will pass!
Here. Anabel Park, the founder was an Obama campaign staffer and worked for the NYT. She makes lib documentaries for a “living”. It’s an attempt to derail/overshadow the tea party movement.
Exactly, HS.
Our three turned out well because of my wife and me, not because of the public school system.
Whereas, back when I was a public school student, the public schools actually taught, and kicked the students’ behinds for the parents; the parents had little or no need to worry…until the cancer of socialism/fascism (the “’60s disease”, but it originated, albeit without noticeable effect, decades earlier) started creeping in in the late 60s (toward the end of high school – HS, 1970).
FOX is preparing for when the Republicans regain control. I believe they want Obamacare to pass and regardless of all the Republicans who campaign on a pledge to repeal it, once in elected, they will immediately abandon that pledge. They will argue that most of it is good and should be kept in place. (“America has suffered enough in this endless debate. We need to unite Americans again by fixing this bill and then move on to the many other important issues facing our country.”)
Remember, FOX is only interested in ratings, not politics. And why would anyone expect Chris Wallace, a privileged legacy who inherited his career, to fight the very establishment that entitles “princes” to cut in line? It seems that everyone delivering news these days is a “prince”.
That is why we must fight off any temptations to abandon the “dump all incumbents” theme for 2010. We are fighting the one-party globalist establishment. We are fighting Democrats, Assistant Democrats and a complicit media. We won’t really know the truth until we break it up.
On March 14th, 2010 at 10:27 am, granite said:
It’s ASTROTURF. It’s “leader” was part of Obama’s campaign, and worked for the NY Times.
And their numbers are laughable.
Hot Air has been covering it for a few weeks:
http://hotair.com/?s=%22coffee+party%22
Coffee Party USA, as in
CPUSA, as in
Communist Party USA (cpusa.org)
And oh, did you know that Obama is a “teabagger”?
…except that the Tea Parties I’ve attended were about restoring our Constiutional Republic, not about bringing “an Empire to its knees”.
It sounds like Obama shares his “journey” with Marist Revolutionary “fellow travellers”, not with those who want a Constitutional Republic.
Know their game plan.
Take even greater action, in greater numbers, on our side.
Obama Propaganda Roll-out and Final Push:
Obama and his “fellow progressives” will say that “after nearly a year of debate, it’s time for a vote”.
But the thing that the House will be asked to vote on hasn’t even been made public yet.
They will not be voting on the bill that the Senate passed.
They will be voting on something that will likely be released at 3 AM on the day they are asked to vote.
Once again, they won’t even know everything that’s in the bill when they vote on it.
Glenn Beck suggested you leave your Church if it practices social justice, the kind written in the Bible to help the poor. Though Glenn Beck made a connection to Communism and Nazism.
Anyone considering leaving their Church at the urging of Glenn Beck? That is if your Church follows the Bible and helps the poor.
Hold Obama and the other Democrats accountable for what
they themselves have said:
THAT is what Fox News should be showing!
we are in agreement. i never see the doctor when i have a cold/flu. just sitting in the waiting area will only make you sicker.
whatever happened to H1N1 anyway? the flu that never was?
Hey Phil…Are you including Eric Cantor, Jim deMint and Paul Ryan in that? You want them voted out too? Just wondering. When you say vote them ALL out, you are throwing out some amazing conservatives who have been fighting tooth and nail for us.
O.K. I have to comment on that. That ISN’T WHAT HE SAID, a-hole. Stop misquoting and purposely taking things out of contest. It is people like you who are helping to take this country down and I loathe your kind. STFU and get off this blog. You are a huge part of the problem and I am sick of it.
By the way, what Glenn Beck ACTUALLY said was, if your church focuses in on Social Justice and uses that term a lot, just check into it. That’s all. Because “Social Justice” is a huge progressive buzz word. That doesn’t mean you should leave your church if the words are being used. Just check on where your church stands…with conservative values or progressive values. Then make your decision.
happyscrapper,
Go get him!
L
Beat me to it, HS.
I was going to ask to see exactly what Beck had said.
“Social justice” is a buzzword used by the dangerous, anything but Christian enforced-at-the-point-of-gun-confiscation-and-leveling down-by-the-elitist-know-it-all-better-than-you-do types.
Ditto
Well, zzzzzzzzzzzz usually has a come-back, especially when I respond to him, because I told him I wasn’t going to respond. So, very predictably, he goads me with that. There are some things so outrageous they have to be answered. I really loathe that poster. He is everything that is wrong in our country today and I just want him gone. Hopefully, when the conservatives take back the country, zzzzzzzzzz and people like him will shut up and go away permanently.
“Social Justice” is NOT about helping the poor. Geez, what kind of funny stuff is wiggy ziggy reading? Or maybe he is smoking something funny instead…
No you don’t have to comment, but it would be nice if you answered the question. A simple yes, I believe Glenn Beck and will leave my Church. Or, a simple no, I do not believe Glenn Beck and will stay in my Church.
A person who immediately leaps to hurling invectives vice saying exactly what Beck said lacks intellectually honesty.
Here’s what Glenn Beck said, quoting -
I’m begging you, your right to religion and freedom to exercise religion and read all of the passages of the Bible as you want to read them and as your church wants to preach them . . . are going to come under the ropes in the next year. If it lasts that long it will be the next year. I beg you, look for the words ‘social justice’ or ‘economic justice’ on your church Web site. If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words. Now, am I advising people to leave their church? Yes.
That is a verbatim quote and you are incorrect. I did not misquote or take anything out of context. I simply paraphased and you lied.
It is not people like me who are taking the country down. It is people like you who cannot have a reasonable discussion and are intellectually dishonest that are taking the country down. And, I do not loathe you, I pity you.
No, I will not be leaving this blog any time soon.
It went the way of all the over hyped diseases, out of sight, out of mind. Scare the public into getting vaccines to pay for the R&D whether they need it or not can’t continue forever. The one benefit to the swine flu hype was that it got more people washing their hands and doing other disease preventative things which may have reduced the spread of the seasonal flu. The public needs the truth, not hype; but hype sells newspapers and vaccines.
Wiggy Ziggy, you don’t have to try so hard to demonstrate you are an idiot. We all believe you already…
You are a sad pathetic individual.
Unable to stand up to rigorous substantiave conversation you would have the other person go away permanently. Well, that is what Mao, Stalin and Hitler did with those who dissented from their party lines.
What’s the matter? You can’t handle differing opinions? Well, that is America.
Or, would you feel more comfortable and like it better living under Mao’s, Stalin’s and Hitler’s forms of government?
Where are your American sensibilities?
“Socialist Justice”
It looks like the Ztroll has you boxed in Happy. Seems his response to your reaction to his response to someone’s response to Beck’s response to something again puts the spotlight on him and his veracity, accuracy and value as a contributor which in this particular case cannot be off topic in an open thread so if he wants to make the topic ZZZsnooze he may do so unless he otherwise violates the terms of use or other norms of decent and civilized discourse in the course of said dialogue.
Aside from that, Z, you are a tool.
Huh?
Try reading what a representative of the National Council of Churches said about Glenn Beck -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peg-chemberlin/christians-run-as-fast-as_b_495166.html
Or from the LDS Church -
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/us/12justice.html
Seriously. You should read the links and then try reading the Bible, but . . . only if you want to be taken seriously.