The Demcare bribe list, Pt. III; Update: Late-night wheeling and dealing into the midnight hour; Stupak press conference 11am Saturday; CANCELED
Scroll for updates…late Friday night wheeling and dealing at Pelosi’s office…see Robert Costa’s reporting…Plus: Stupak’s stupefying negotiations…STUPAK CANCELS PRESSER…deal collapses…abortion proponents in revolt…
Here we go again. Time for another Let’s Make a Deal Watch in the Era of Hope of Change. As GOP Rep. Paul Ryan noted the other day at the House Budget Committee wreckonciliation shell hearing: “We are not governing here today, we are greasing the skids.”
First, a link refresher: Beltway Christmas: Cash for corruptocrats; the Demcare bribe list, Pt. I; Demcare bribe list, Pt. II; “A Reading Guide to the Senate Bill’s Backroom Deals”; and The Chicago Way: Judgeships for Demcare votes?
Now, here’s my rundown on the latest bribes and payoffs. GOP Sen. Tom Coburn is also on high alert. You keep watch, too, and send your additions:
*Nebraska’s Hospital Helper. Via Rowan Scarborough at the Washington Times:
The Obama administration has delivered another budget plum to Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson and the state of Nebraska, adding more than a half-billion dollars for a new veterans hospital in Omaha.
The move reverses a decision by Mr. Obama’s own Veterans Administration of a year ago, which called for repairing an existing hospital.
The Veterans Administration made the budget switch during internal deliberations in 2009 at a time when the White House was wooing the moderate Democrat to vote for President Obama’s health care overhaul bill.
Mr. Nelson was among the last of the Senate Democrats to sign on to the health bill, deciding to vote “yes” after securing special Medicaid payments for Nebraska in a deal known as the “Cornhusker Kickback.” Health care reform opponents have widely panned that deal.
At the time that deal was being made, Mr. Nelson was getting another boost from the VA as it formulated its next budget.
Jake Thompson, a spokesman for Mr. Nelson, rejected the idea the new hospital was awarded in exchange for the senator’s health care vote.
Deny, deny, deny.
*Tennessee’s Hospital Helper. Via the Tennessean:
Bye bye, Cornhusker Kickback. Hello, special treatment for Tennessee and North Dakota.
Democrats unveiling revisions Thursday to their health-care overhaul bill decided to kill the extra $100 million in Medicaid funds for Nebraska that has become a symbol of backdoor deal making. But the 153 pages of changes to the package include an additional $99 million in 2012 and 2013 for Tennessee hospitals that treat many poor people.
Retiring Rep. Bart Gordon, D-Tenn., has fought for the funds for years to bring the state’s aid up to par with the rest of the country, spokeswoman Emily Phelps said. She said their inclusion had nothing to do with his announcement Thursday that he will vote for the final health legislation after opposing an earlier version in November.
Deny, deny, deny.
Tom Bevan notes the irony of Gordon’s little deal and a NASA slot rumor.
*North Dakota’s Student Loan Loophole. With a sick stomach, Scott Johnson at Power Line reports:
Although the package nationalizes the student loan system, one bank — the state-owned Bank of North Dakota — would be allowed to continue making student loans. Such a deal for North Dakota’s Democratic congressional delegation facing massive opposition to Obamacare back home.
North Dakota Senator Byron Dorgan has already announced his retirement rather than try to defend Obamacare to his constituents. Kent Conrad — North Dakota’s other Democratic senator — is employing the full Nelson, declining the bribe. Referring to “an overly heated partisan environment,” he asked the House to remove the buyoff from the legislation.
We await word from Rep. Earl Pomeroy, the state’s lone member of the House. Before the package was announced, Pomeroy was an enthusiastic advocate of the buyoff. “We want what’s taking place in North Dakota protected,” Pomeroy said. It is not clear whether Pomeroy shares Conrad’s second thoughts
And Congress will now expressly fund racial discrimination in higher education:
The new package also promises new aid for colleges serving minority students, using money the government is supposed to save by no longer paying banks to make student loans. Included are annual payments of $100 million for schools with large numbers of Hispanic students, the same amount for colleges with many black students, and millions more for schools with large numbers of native Americans and other minorities.
Newspapers running stories on these deals such as the Washington Post’s “Cornhusker Kickback gets the boot in health bill” really ought to provide nausea warnings and motion sickness bags.
*The La Raza Lollilop. Open-borders congressional reps made a show of protesting the phony immigration enforcement provisions in Demcare. But purported opponents of the bill led by Illinois Democrat Rep. Luis Guiterrez are falling in line. Just as the congressional Hispanic Caucus announced it support of Demcare, Obama announced his vow of support for their new shamnesty push.
All they needed was a cheap and easy promise from Obama. Chumps.
*Water Wheeling & Dealing. IBD editorializes today:
On Tuesday, the Department of the Interior announced it was increasing water allocations for the Central Valley of California, a region that depends on these water allocations for local agriculture and jobs. The timing adds to our suspicions.
According to the Interior announcement, “Typically (the Bureau of) Reclamation would release the March allocation update around March 22nd, but moved up the announcement at the urging of Senators (Diane) Feinstein and (Barbara) Boxer, and Congressmen (Jim) Costa and (Dennis) Cardoza.”
Blue Dog Democrats Costa, who represents California’s 20th Congressional District (Fresno), and Cardoza, who represents the 18th (Stockton to Modesto), are both listed as “undecided” in the upcoming vote on health care reform, whether it be on the Senate bill itself or the “deem and pass” resolution known as the Slaughter rule, after Rules Committee Chairman Louise Slaughter.
The rule subverts the Constitution by allowing the bill to pass without members actually having to vote on it. Interior’s announcement gives Costa and Cardoza something to assuage the wrath of angry constituents just in time for any vote. They chose what was behind door number one.
This isn’t the first time. To get them out of the “undecided” column in last December’s House vote, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic leadership promised $500 million for a new University of California-Merced Medical School. Costa and Cardoza then voted “aye.”
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Update: Well, I never thought I’d encourage you to go to Firedoglake, but there is some must-read reporting on the late-night negotiations over the abortion funding issue. And it isn’t good:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has made a deal with Rep. Bart Stupak in order to secure his vote and that of other anti-choice Democrats for the health care bill, which is scheduled to be voted on this Sunday. According to a member of Congress who was briefed on the matter, Pelosi has agreed to let Stupak have a vote on his amendment either before or after the House votes to pass the Senate bill. It instructs the Senate to substitute the language in his amendment for the Senate language on abortion.
FDL has obtained a copy of the concurrent resolution (PDF1, PDF2, PDF3, PDF4), which includes cosponsors Marion Berry, Sanford Bishop, Joseph Cao, Kathy Dahlkemper, Steve Driehaus, Marcy Kaptur, Dan Lipinski, Alan Mollohan, and Nick Rahall. A second source confirms that with the exception of Cao, these are the members of Congress who are still on the fence. Cao is still considered a firm “no” vote.
The deal calls for Stupak to have a vote on his amendment either before or after the House votes to confirm the Senate bill on Sunday. Stupak is confident that he has the votes to pass the measure, and is happy to have the vote after the House passes the Senate bill. He believes that by using a “tie bar” approach, his amendment would be “tied” to the health care bill — which would require just 51 votes in the Senate.
Pro-choice members of the House, however, are demanding that the vote on the Concurrent Resolution happen before the House confirms the Senate bill. If in fact it passes, they plan to vote against confirming the Senate bill. They want Rep. Diana Degette to release the names of the 41 cosigners to her letter who pledged to vote against any bill that restricts a woman’s right to choose, and they are angry that the White House has been whipping to push through the Stupak deal.
Allahpundit tries to decipher the deal and wonders:
Exit question: Is this all just lefty spin being fed to Firedoglake by peeved pro-choicers? We’ll find out at Stupak’s presser tomorrow. 11 a.m.!
Meanwhile, The Corner’s Robert Costa has fresh reports on late-night arm-twisting at Pelosi’s office:
UPDATE: Tense times at the Capitol. Democrats are being called into the Speaker’s office at the eleventh hour for negotiations. Rep. Allyson Schwartz (D., Pa.) just arrived at 10:20 P.M. Regional Medicare reimbursement disparities appears to be the issue. Staffers are on their cell phones, telling their bosses to hustle in. Twice in the last 20 minutes, Speaker Pelosi has come into the lobby herself, looking for (maybe) arriving members. It’s now 10:30 P.M.
In the midnight hour, they cried more, more more…
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Update: The Stupak deal has collapsed. Press conference canceled. Pelosi vows to separate votes on abortion.
Update: An executive order to mollify Stupak and company?
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When I wake up Monday morning and walk outside, will this be the same America in which I had grown up? Will it be the America of The Greatest Generation? Will it be the America of hard work and dreams?
It will be America, but it will have become AmeriKKKa.
It just came across the radio that Democrat Rep Boccieri, Ohio, has sold out and will flip to yes!
Well at least Boccieri didn’t use the kids as a human shield. Senator Coburn follow the trail on this one!!!
You mean the progressives in California are willing to sacrifice the Delta Smelt in order to pass this piece of crap? The environmentalists must be seething at this point.
If these scum bags are able to pull this vote off to a yes, everything else that comes up will be done this same way. Amnesty is a given with the way they are using this unconstitutional crud! There will be nothing they can not pass with the way they are doing this.
L
When did these people forget that they serve the people, instead of the other way around?
Remember this treachery in November, America. We need to vote these corruptocrats out!
And what makes these minorities deserving of these gifts?
Ans: NOTHING BUT THEIR SKIN COLOR.
Obama you $^%^%*^ racist.
Yup.
Ans once they make illegals US Citizens with acknowledged dual-citizenship for here and where ever the hell they came here from, they will extend health care coverage to all of them using our money.
Then wait until what happens at the borders. The influx will be chaos. If you think black Friday sales are out of control, welcome to FREE EVERYTHING FROM AMERICA SALE DAY.
Chaos. It’s how they get control.
What’s the downside for the bribee when the justice department works for the head briber.
First time Real Clear Politics has his App rating in negative territory. With any luck it will keep sinking like a rock.
Exactly!
This poor sick country is going to hell in a hand basket and frankly, I just don’t care anymore. I’m on the down side of life and will not have to endure this kind of totalitarian government too much longer but I pity my children and my grandchildren . . . they won’t be able to enjoy the beauty of this once great and free Republic.
Geez. Living on a Marine firebase in Afghanistan is sounding pretty good right about now. At least you know who your friends and enemies are.
Don’t give up rplatt. We’re in this together. We may go down but if we do, we go down fighting.
Hey Obama, isn’t this deal with the colleges a “hate” crime?? AND…
What are the terms for impeachment???
Impeachment will not even be an issue until the majority in the House changes. Even then, the career politicians will never put Obama on trial for abuse of power.
So, I’m thinking a good thing to be in Obama’s America is an illegal immigrant veteran living in Nebraska.
Why do they even bother trying to deny it? They’re obviously proud of their corruption.
Why, if Affirmative Action is illegal, we’ll just build schools for black and hispanics, give them all the money and exclude white people. Nuthin’ wrong with that, right?
And read what Holt (D-NJ) said yesterday.
I can barely believe he had the balls to make these claims.
Anyone, even a politician, would understand the consequences of a successful impeachment and trial…Biden as President, and Pelosi as No. 2.
Any action in that area has to include all of them. Like a mob trial.
rplatt – I know how you feel! It would be so easy to just say “the hell with it”. But I have two kids that will head out on their own in a few years and there is no way I will let the stinking collectivists ruin their lives.
I think we have some real intelligent, clever people in the blogo-sphere that can figure out ways around the government control. In my mind, if they pass this monster using these tactics they are no longer a legitimate government, they no longer have my consent, and anything I do to improve my life and my family’s life, as written in the real U.S. Constitution, is fair game.
If a few million feel the same way, maybe we can figure something out.
Off-topic but important none the less. Sean Hannity is in hot water over aallegedly financing his lavish lifestyle with the proceeds of his Freedom Concerts.
Apparently only about 20% of the proceeds end up in the hands of the children of fallen soldiers and only $1,000 to $2,000 per child when it does.
So much for Nuisance “Newt” GinGrinch’s unofficial presidential campaign manager.
We need better people on our side than this RINO shill.
They’re bribing people with money from those who don’t want the bill!!!!!
The world has been upside down for far too long…It will come down to a civil war
You forgot, suspend the November election, declare BO president for life. Unless the SCOTUS steps up and does it’s job, there is nothing stopping these people.
When they were handed dictatorial power in 2008, and succumbed to the temptation to let it all hang out and start acting like tyrants that they are under the skin.
There’s an argument to be made that the Roman Emperor Caligula wasn’t really insane; rather, he was the first emperor to figure out that there really were no checks on his authority, and he simply took advantage of that fact.
Right now, there are practically no checks on Hope-a-Dope’s authority, and like Caligula he’s just taking advantage.
walterc,
The SCOTUS and the states doing the 10th seems all we have left if this passes. We all need to get involved with our state elected and demand they pass legistation to say we citizens are not required to be forced to pay or go to jail for health care. It seems about 30 states are already doing things if this passes.
L
I can assure you Writejerry; it’s not a good thing to be an employer in America today. Maybe that’s why we have 15% unemployment, and 12% illegal immigrants. Hmmmm, that smells like 3% unemployment and 12% crooks. And please don’t talk about berry pickers, they have green cards, hence not illegal. I’m speaking of the construction crews, the plant workers, the hotel workers.
Time to get a tad more creative.
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HI REDDOG–#14. I don’t need to “live on a fire base in Afghanistan” to know who my enemies are.
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“Democratic” / liberal / socialist / statist / marxist / communist Comrade Obama (PBUH) and his congressional / government minions are the DOMESTIC ENEMIES referred to in the oath I took when I was drafted into the U.S. Army long ago.
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They are in plain view now as the turn the U.S.A. into their new dream–the United Socialist States of Amerikka. Teaparty them at all opportunities–and vote them out of office and into FUNEMPLOYMENT in the 2010 and 2012 elections.
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John Bibb
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“Anyone, even a politician, would understand the consequences of a successful impeachment and trial…Biden as President, and Pelosi as No. 2.”
Pelosi will be unemployed after Republicans take control of Congress. I’d take Biden over Obama any day until we can vote him out too.
hang in there rplatt. They want you to give up. You’re not one person standing alone against this tyranny. It ain’t over til it’s over..
Where’s Rogue to quote Animal House? Rogue, here’s your que:
Grubby little bast….
Phil: I saw this from Debbie Schlussel’s site. She hates Hannity and has nothing good to say about most other conservative commentators, even Michelle Malkin.
That kind of accusation needs to be investigated thoroughly before it is tossed around.
Rogue pulled a hamstring, so I will pinch-hit for him:
D-Day: War’s over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he’s rolling.
Bluto: And it ain’t over now. ‘Cause when the goin’ gets tough…
[thinks hard]
Bluto: the tough get goin’! Who’s with me? Let’s go!
[runs out, alone; then returns]
Bluto: What the f**k happened to the Delta I used to know? Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you’re gonna let it be the worst. “Ooh, we’re afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble.” Well just kiss my *ss from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this. Wormer, he’s a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer…
Otter: Dead! Bluto’s right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part.
Bluto: We’re just the guys to do it.
D-Day: Let’s do it.
Bluto: *Let’s do it*!
Thanks! Cheddar couldn’t have said it better.
Or in the words of Bugs Bunny..”you know this means war”
WalterC,
Not one of the Justices stood up when he was sworn into office.
Most of them know (all of them should) the definition of Natural Born Citizen, and they knew that he did not qualify. His father was a foreign national, he said so in his book. Nobody wanted to be the one to tell him he couldn’t be President.
And they said nothing.
We either have a Constitution and uphold it, or we end up swearing in a man who isn’t eligible, who doesn’t like it anyway, and he shreds it.
Cardoza (D) Ca-18 also got a $500,000,000 bribe for a new hospital in his district for his vote on the original House health care bill passed at Thanksgiving.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29383.html
He cost more than Lincoln or Landreau, yet no one even talks about this deal.
I hope Coburn finds this when he reviews the budget allocations for such deals before the next election.
It’s like renting prostitutes with someone else’s money. And then asking us to pay to treat her venereal disease after the fact.
I am still going to to DC to protest the final vote. Pray the Supremes will intervene if this passes.
Too bad this title is already taken….
Culture of Corruption
it says it all.
I predict that Stupak is the new Massa:
i.e. A congress-critter who thinks it is funny to screw his/her constituents and draw attention for his/her ‘suffering’.
I’m not laughing.
Obama and his minions are winning. Our fellow citizens are getting what they voted for, unfortunately we’re getting it too. We can talk about revolution all we want, but in truth we would man the barricades alone. Two, three, many Wacos would be the only result.
The full scope of the political disaster which struck in 2008 is now apparent. No one should need as much luck as America does said the late, great Ayn Rand. Was she ever right.
Don’t throw in the towel so soon.
I’ve just awoken to see that the critters continued to deal while I slept. I feel like I did once after a night in a particularly sleazy French hostel where I felt I needed to hug my little sack of possessions all night long.
On the up side, we don’t yet have amnesty, which we surely would have had by now if McCain had won. (Yes, I held my nose and voted for him.)
I realize that if we lose the HC fight it will be very difficult to reverse the damage. Very difficult but not impossible.
If twenty million newly amnestied Democrat voters are created, that is something that we could never undo and that would lead to DC statehood, Puerto Rican statehood and the United States of Brazil. There would have been no possibility whatever of undoing these events other than with guns. And I wouldn’t bet on that succeeding.
Not that I am not glum about the profound consequences of a potential loss on HC. It is important, though, to hang tough for another 48 hours…we’ve not lost it yet. The Dems may talk like winners, but they’re not acting like it; they’re still scrambling.
Why not . . . Stupak is just another wormy liberal slug that will sell his soul for a pittance. We’re dealing with self serving, amoral liars, cheats and crooks and there’s no reason we should expect them to behave honorably and honestly. Marxism and socialism are the “law of the land” and our once great Republic is dead.
Can’t be all that much of a constitutional crisis to Fox & Friends Saturday, what all their wall-to-wall jokes and lame potty features (now I see why E.D. Hill left). Time for a more serious Fox morning replacement.
James Greenidg
Queens NY
Just like Action News at 5…it’s all just infotainment to them. All that dwelling on the future of the country gets tedious for many viewers.
And re: infotainment…you gotta keep the product fresh…gotta keep it rotated.
Just think how much Obama’s cancelled trip has cost us!
I fully understand this deep discouragement and have fallen into it myself. My utter outrage at the Christmas Eve obscenity almost put me into solid Galt mode. Having said that, this tendency to despair is not based in reality
Two things always bring me back to reality.
First, America is much bigger, stronger, nobler and more resilient than we are giving it credit for. It has survived much more agressive assaults on its freedoms than these vile cretin can manage. History will record this as a rather pathetic attempt to fundamentally transform America into a liberal progressive state. Here’s the problem: Once a people has tasted and enjoyed freedom, you cannot take it away from them. They will fight to the death to sustain it for themselves, their children and their children’s children. Is this not the core of our history? The silent majority, most of whom have never demonstrated, spoken out or been politically active are outraged, energized, mobilized and are on fire. I have attended 5 tea party protests, have contacted my “representatives”, written letters and attended events more in the last year than in my entire life combined. I am encouraged and empowered by the realization that not only am I not alone – I am in the majority! This particular attempted rape of the constitution in an attempt to expand government in our lives will fail – one way or the other, along with the rest of the agenda. Bank on it.
Secondly, there is a sovereign God who created all things, and continues to reign in power, truth and wisdom. He has blessed this country for reasons I do not fully understand, but I have no reason to believe He will stop doing so. The present assault on truth, freedom, morality and decency (not to mention reality) will ultimately fail. Always has and always will. The only question is how long, and all indications are it’s coming down pretty quick. Watch for it, but never stop fighting for it.
Yea…whatever.
Wow.
Democrats collectively give America the middle finger as they follow the pied piper of DC.
Just wow.
Maybe, maybe not . . . but in the meantime this once great Republic is being totally destroyed.
I agree, it will fail. But it will fail in its application over the course of many years. I just hope and pray that God has mercy on us for the abortion, idolatry and sexual deviance that America has lavished in, and sees fit to answer repentant prayers and turn this monster away from becoming law.
I’m not surprised Stupak caved. After all, his vote for the version of PlaceboCare that came out of the House (the one with everything the liberals wanted except full funding for/mandated coverage of abortion) came not because of the passage of the Stupak Amendment, but because of a vote on the Stupak Amendment. Neither he nor Pelosi actually expected it to pass at the time.
If Obama was impeached, which isn’t going to happen, there would be no reason to worry about who is going to take over. In the aftermath of an impeachment even Biden and Pelosi would, finally. be rendered powerless.
Don’t ever believe impeaching Obama would not be a very good thing….please.
Hey, it’s one of the others who isn’t afraid to talk about this.
Yes, it’s a fact his father was never an American citizen…and that’s one of at least three different ways he could be ineligible.
Anyone who is infuriated with what’s happening to America, think about how much your anger will increase when you are convinced the a**hole who is pretending to be president is unconstitutionally usurping the office.
How the majority can lose their country without ever really pressing this issue is incredibly disappointing.
Latest from NRO.
Great comment from another website:
“If they can deem laws passed why can’t they deem no elections?”
There was a time when I would have laughed at such a suggestion….but, there is absolutely nothing this administration would do that can surprise me.
Both Tennessee coruptocrats Bart Gordon and John Tanner will vote for this Obomanation, slither off to collect a tax-payer funded pension, and leave their ‘constituents’ to deal with the resulting mess. If these cowards had one ounce of backbone, they’d run for re-election and take the resulting a**-whipping. But of course, I’m only joking; they are Democrats after all. Both Tanner and Gordon are beneath contempt.
I have children. A 2 year old and a 3 year old included.
Insurrection against treasonous bastards who seek to destroy this constitutional republic, and end government having authroity only by consent of the governed, is not what I’d prefer.
But it almost seems like they want to push the nation to the breaking point.
Guiterrez the illegal alien lover flips on health care…is shamnesty next on the agenda? Vote this clown out!!! Come on IL grow a spine! Senator Coburn yet another one for you to follow the trail on!!!
There is no way a real Christian of either Protestant or Catholic flavor, can be a Democrat, unless they are amazingly stupid.
The Dems have been the abortion party since 1988 at least. Al Gore, Tennessee’s “moderate Democrat Senator”, miraculously discovered the joys of abortion on demand when he entered the Democrat primaries. Instant 180º flip. Even more astounding than Huckabee’s 180º flip from pro-illegal and friend of La Raza to supposed border security hawk in 2008.
In 1992, Bob Casey Senior, governor of Pennsylvania, was denied a speaking role at Clinton’s nominating convention, because he was truly pro-life.
His fraud son claimed the mantle, and beat Santorum, but now is a safe vote when needed for abortion on demand and federal funding of foreign abortion clinics.
If millenium of tradition, or the Scriptures and Gospel are a person’s guide, they can’t be a Democrat. Pelosi, Kerry, Sebelius, the rotting DWI Killer, were all frauds.
Only members of churches that choose to follow the Lord of this World, like some Episcopal churches (hang tough to the faithful Anglican churches), Unitarians, MCC, etc. can claim any semblance of Christianity and be Democrat.
BTW, the now retired Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Newark, New Jersey, publically denies Jesus was born of a virgin, died on a cross, or was resurrected.
And the Episcopal Church continues to honor him as a bishop and maintain his denials of Christ on their website.
2 choices for Stupak, fraud of very stupid.
Oh, about who the Demonrats follow, the Lord of this World…
Luke Chapter 4
See also 2nd Corinthians Chapter 4 or John Chapter 12.
Swede – I too take great comfort in this and believe in His divine providence. I’m surprised by Ig-Reilly’s dismissive response to your words that reflect over 200 years of truth – words that the founding fathers used to guide them in creating our consitution. I plan on calling on the power of prayer during these times as it seems to go hand in hand with another God-given right called the 2nd amendment. The thought that keeps coming into my head with regard to the health care takeover is how is this not tyranny — how is this not worthy of a revolution?
Tennessee Congressman Cooper [5th District] will probably vote FOR the bill also. He set up his cover for the vote by voting against the Slaughter proceedure and responded to me with a phoney “On the Fence” ” Waiting for the CBO report before I decide how I will vote”. All Democrats have to go! Oh, and while we’re at it let’s show the RINOs out too.
Yep, any Democrat who is undecided is voting for the bill. The only transparency in this administration is when they attempt to deceive their constituents.
Re the education earmark: I guess Asians are no longer minorities?
So IOW only the minorities who are failing at college will get more money…when you subsidize something you get more of it.
Pathetic.
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HI ED MAHMOUD ABU AL-KAHOUL–#89. Good comment on how can any serious Christian vote for abortion supporting democrats. I have been an Episcopalian since I was 11 years old–my choice–57 years ago.
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I hear many Christians–good Catholics also–supporting and voting for democrats–and they like Comrade Obama (PBUH) because he helps out poor people. Too bad The Messiah doesn’t feel the same way about helping out the unborn–it’s O.K. to abort them for convenience purposes–no need to PUNISH HIS DAUGHTERS WITH A BABY.
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What will a good Christian, Jew, or Muslim tell God when we stand before him on the final judgment day? I think He will ask us, “Why did you vote for abortion supporting candidates? I didn’t ask you to fight them– at least you could have voted for life instead!”
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I don’t want to have to tell Him that I was so stupid as to support these evil people. And also–there are likely to be some bishops burning in hell. My Episcopal Bishop left the church and became a Catholic a few years ago–he could no longer serve a new world (read satanic) agenda. And more good Christians leave every day. It just proves that you can educate a fool–but all you get is a (seminary) educated fool!
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God is patient–and forgiving. But his patience and forgiveness is not infinite in the face of evil actions. The Bible lessons about Noah’s flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the Babylonian exile, and the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans are examples of what happens to peoples and countries that continue to offend God.
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John Bibb
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Schlussel is not the “go to guy” on what conservatives are doing. I mean, really! What does she think Sean is, a Democrat?!?!?! He isn’t stupid.
It is just another distraction and further proof that Hannity is hitting them where it hurts.
To wit:
The section in the bill that will force citizens to buy insurance or go to jail must be immediately challenged in court.
Is any group getting ready to challenge this provision before the Supreme Court?