The gloater-in-chief: “Another stone laid in the foundation of the American dream;” Pelosi jokes: “No money exchanged hands (laughter);” Slaughter: “There is nothing now that we can’t tackle”
President Obama actually said this in reaction to passage of the Demcare monstrosity:
It’s “another stone laid in the foundation of the American dream.”
And this: “This is what change looks like.”
Never mind that the “changes” don’t start until 2014 — but the tax hikes and pain start now.
No, Election Day 2010 is what change will look like.
Remember in November.
***
As if the night couldn’t get more nauseating, Geraldo on Fox News right now is shilling for Demcare and peddling the Slacker Mandate provisions.
Crikey.
***
It. Just. Got. Sicker.
12:08am Eastern. Pelosi is holding her victory speech. Gloating about the 220 votes she whipped up, she joked: “No money changed hands, of course.”
Mark those words.
***
Waxman moans that “Democrats had to do it alone.” Er, you forgot to reconcile your talking points with the White House, Henry.
Update 12:20am Eastern: Delusional Democrat Sandy Levin: “We spread the American wings of opportunity and community.”
Louise Slaughter: “There is nothing now that we can’t tackle.” Shudder.
Corruptocrat Dems can cackle now. They will eat crow later.
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March to Repeal Socialism.
Wow – sounds like a pre-cursor to Pres. Obama’s giving Grandma the pain pill.
I copied this quote from the Politics forum on an other website I post on. The person who posted it is from a state that was consistently “red” until 2008 when it went for Obama, and the person that wrote it was always very conservative in his/her postings until a few years ago. There are a whole lot more “sheeple” out there just like him/her. It is my view that is our biggest problem.
Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! -Bluto, 1978
The point being….. it ain’t even close to over.
On March 22nd, 2010 at 12:28 pm, Virginia Patriot said:
Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
We are seeing what a Marxist revolution looks like when the Marxist wolves put on sheep’s clothing to get elected (Rasmussen has shown how Obama won by campaigning like Ronald Reagan), but then once in office they remove the sheep costume and they drive us full speed down The Road to Socialism USA.
Al Sharpton even has the gall to claim that those who were fooled by the sheep’s clothing knew they were voting for Socialism!
Sontinuing on that “It ain’t over” thought.
What the #%$@ happened to the
DeltaConservatives I used to know? Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you’re gonna let it be the worst. “Ooh, we’re afraid to go with youBlutoSarah, we might get in trouble.” Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this. Reid, UNEMPLOYED! Pelosi, UNELPLOYED! Niedermeyer…you get the idea…
I’m an expat living in the Netherlands and just almost got sick to my stomach watching a dutch commentator talk about how bad the US health system is and how all will be perfect now that Obama has rammed this down our throats. One commentator asked about the states that will be filing lawsuits against obamacare and was answered with the comment that the civil war already proved that the states do not have the right to go against a federal law and that the lawsuits will be thrown out. How arrogant can someone be! This dutch commentator thinks he knows our constitution better that we do! It’s hard to hold out over here sometimes living in the center of socialism. Even worse than living California, and that’s pretty bad.
On March 22nd, 2010 at 12:31 pm, b-cat said:
Thank you, too, b-cat.
Correct.
I, too, remember when Lamm said that back then.
BTW, I notice yet again how quiet our socialist, adolescent, opposite world view-
holdingloving trolls have been over the past couple of weeks.I wonder why….
I understand that Slaughter got a brick or two through one of her headquarters. Unfortunately, there is more to come, and if I were a Democrat Congressman I would not want to go home for Easter recess. This kind of governmental arrogance can only trigger a violent reaction in the end. And, as the socialists are given to say – power ultimately comes from the barrel of a gun.
OK folks next fight is against shamnesty II…let’s get with it…join numbersusa if you haven’t and call/write/fax/email and let’s stop this mess once and for all!!
It is irrelevant now. They have dealt a mortal blow to American civilization. This is unrecoverable – we are indeed sliding down the road to slavery and tyranny. I am truly heartsick at this.
Senate Health Care Bill Would Force Some Middle Class Families to Pay $15,200 Yearly Insurance Fee, According to CBO Analysis
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/58533
How can this possibly be tolerated? By any other name this is strongarmed robbery, a crime against the Constitution and the American People. If this is not “high crimes and misdemeanors” I do not know what is.
Wouldn’t you know it… what happened on March 22, 1765?
(h/t Laura Ingraham)
Are we allowed to attack McCain, Graham and the other Assistant Democrats on “our side”? There are people here who believe that the only problem is with Dems.
This fight is not only against elected representatives. They have a lot of support from voters who wanted health care reform. There are millions of people that support what happened yesterday. (all CNN viewers). These same people will vote Democrat again. They do not see the problem. They hear what Obama and Pelosi tell them and buy it hook line and sinker.
They also have been taught to hate Republicans. They would take any Democrat over a Republican. Talk about brainwashed. How do we get around all these people?
What do our leaders say? Oh yeah. We don’t even know who the leaders are yet.
“This is what
changethe death of America looks like.”Fixed it.
I’m wondering if Michelle banned them
They were getting quite intolerable with their thread hijacking.
Obama misspoke;
he meant,
It is an ALBATROSS around the necks of children throughout this country.
UN brain-wash them. This is no flimsy ‘climate change’ debate either. Drive a stake in the ground for them right now. How long does it take to get an appointment to be seen by a doctor? How much are your premiums costing you and what is your level of coverage? ETC.
Force those people to at least take stock of what they have now so they will easily notice when it gets taken away from them – AND THEN REMEMBER THAT IT WASN’T REPUBLICANS WHO TOOK IT FROM THEM.
BTW, far fewer of our best and brightest will now bother to choose medicine for a career when the government can now dictate their wages so, in a 1/2 dozen years or so, I will expect that we will see a big surge in the number of….lawyers!
Right you are Mac. Plenty of work to do in the days and months ahead, from the street to the polling booth.
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What we need is to stop waltzing around and hold a Constitutional Convention!
If we, the people of our various states, do force a call, there are at least 6 issues we need in 6 separate amendments, (each voted on its own worth and not as a package…):
*: When such a case occurs where the “political class” is the only one who is considered to have standing to challenge and enforce a clear Constitutional Directive (and yes, flamers, I am thinking of the “Natural Born Citizen” issue — although I can see the political class using “Standing” and a willing SCOTUS for other “troublesome” issues…) we are in deep trouble. If we cannot force enforcement of the Constitutional Process and Requirements through the Courts because of “Standing” we are left with the method outlined in the Declaration Of Independence to redress our grievances with our government — reconstitution! Yes, it would be bloody and painful and worth it, nothing is more precious than freedom, but why unnecessarily court the prospect?
Why is it the only recourse offered by SCOTUS when the entire political class, who through either avarice or cowardice colludes to suborn† Constitutional processes, is to “shut up & sit-down”? All because nine “priests”, untouchable except by that political class they are charged to ride herd on, (see FDR & “Packing the Court”…) says that the Final Check & Balance of Constitutional Processes (We The People) have NO standing? Essentially you have the Government specifying what parts of the Constitution they are willing to allow US, The Citizens to enforce. If the Political Class packs SCOTUS with Anti-Constitutionalists, and then the Houses pass a law stating that all protections from the Bill Of Rights are null & void, there is nothing to stop SCOTUS from saying that only an officer of the government has standing, since the lack of a CCon to amend The Constitution to abrogate the BoR is “only about process”. Just as has happened with a similar argument, that of Barry’s dual loyalties. (Although the joke about that was on us “birthers” — neither of the dual loyalties are to The United States or The Constitution… I’d laugh at the joke, but would have to cry instead.)
†: see “suborn”, definition #1
Does anybody here worry about what may happen to the private insurers? If I have to take people with preexisting conditions, do I get to charge them a higher premium? How much higher? If I can’t charge them more, then I know I will pay out much more in claims than I get in premiums. Will I raise rates on everyone? Will I just take less profit? Will I cut expenses (jobs) to maintain a decent rate of return? Or will I be forced to eat these losses and find myself with a rate of return that is not worth the risk taken and just close the business. Is it possible that the private insurance market will fail? Are they too big to fail? Will the gubmint make up the lost profit with taxpayer money?
I get a sinking feeling that many companies will close their doors leaving hundreds of thousands more people unemployed, less choice of insurers, higher premiums, fewer benefits, etc. And what other impact may destroing an entire industry have on our economy? Any remote chance of something bad happenning or is it all just rainbows and unicorns?
The only silver lining is that per Pelosi, all these workers can pursue their dreams of becoming an artist.
I’ll donate to any conservative that runs against them. Those two along with Collins and Snowe are among the biggest problems the GOP has in it’s ranks. Steele is of course another problem, albeit, a temporary one.
For sure.
Dems want them out of business. Or, more accurately, they want to drive them to failure so they can be taken over like GM, but in a way that makes health insurance a quasi gov’t agency.
That’s the Dems plan.
But before that happens, when insurance co’s raise rates to cover pre-existing conditions risk and “on daddy’s plan” risk, etc, Dems will demonize the insurance companies and use that a leverage to make more moves to nationalize health care. Price Controls.
Which drives the insurance companies to failure….. then to gov’t bailout/take over.
The Dems plan that is never told to the American people except on conservative blogs and news stations like Fox.
And then they are crucified for having the audacity to say so.
martin.musculus: Been there, Done that!
Look at post #77 in the “Attorneys general launch lawsuit backlash against Demcare” thread.
Correction, Shamnesty III. They have tried twice before to ram it down our throats on bush’s watch. If passed, I full beliive it will be a matter of only decades (2 at most) before the US has to make tough decisions on finances because the borrow and spend gravy train will have left the station. There is no way we can afford to pay for health care, the welfare for all the new citizens (30M my guess), and the new family reunification immigrants directly attributable to amnesty (potentially 3 for every amnestied person as in the 1986 amensty). What a shame. We are on the bullet train to a banana republic.
Kiss those sweet treats, adult beverages, and less-than-healthy personal habits like smoking and participating in recreational activities/sports goodbye!
Now that government has a vested interest in your good health, they’ll tax and legislate away your personal choices and freedoms to make sure you stay that way!
NJ-Aviator, I’m OLD and I’m exceedingly tired. I never expected an easy sunset, but I prayed it would not come to this!
I’m somewhat half-way through my 9th decade. I’ll never see the end of this fight. I will of necessity leave the rest of it to my children and grandchildren.
But know that until the helpful smiling Obamacare workers come to collect my carbon, I will be a thorn in their side, (even if an old and somewhat blunt one…)
And with Republicans voting no on this stupid bribecare bill, we should make sure that people know the Dems did this. We should also laser focus on all claims they make and then continue to bring up how the facts did not meet thier claims. Of course, they will hide behind the msm to keep the bs flowing.
Its working for them. They just completely fooled millions of people and passed one of the worst bills to ever come out of Congress. All to satisfy Obamas ego, not to help Americans.
Not quite. There are people here who understand that when we’re in a bad situation with multiple causes, the way out is to prioritize how they are dealt with.
Republicans are not blameless in getting us into the social, economic and political mess we are in right now. The party remains in need of reform.
But nor are Republicans solely, or even chiefly to blame. And this is where people whose reaction to whatever the donks do is to reflexively say, “Yeah, but John McCain SUCKS!!”(TM) or “Yeah, but ‘our side’ is even worse!!”(TM) or “Yeah, but look at all the RINOs out there!!”(TM) types constantly fall down.
If we compare the USA to a ship that’s just been bombed and torpedoed, “damage control” doesn’t consist of hysterically running around blaming the lousy AA gunners who didn’t shoot down the enemy dive-bombers in time, or the lousy ship’s helmsman who didn’t turn the rudder in time to avoid the torpedoes.
No. To save the ship, you prioritize your efforts based on the immediacy of the threat: stop the flooding first; fire-fighting second; correct the list third; re-light the boilers next; and so on.
Anyone who not only can’t tell that donks running Congress and the White House aren’t a much more grave threat to the country than a handful of squish Republicans, but who also spends the majority of his time kvetching about that handful of Republicans is, to put it charitably, not helping with the damage control efforts — his focus is on the wrong things at the wrong times.
If we are to save the “USS America,” then damage control must be prioritized to be effective: stop the donks first before they can do even more harm; if you want to “multi-task” then fight to weed out the RINOs in the primaries. But reforming the Republicans accomplishes little of real value until after the donks are removed from power.
If there are some here who “believe the only problem is with the donks,” I suggest that it only looks that way to certain others here — who can’t tell the difference between consistent evil and occasional stupidity, and whose warped sense of priorities seems to be to be fixated on criticizing the Keystone Kops while Doctor Evil runs wild.
martin–the best kind.
They’ll lower the standards. It’s just one of the many horrors Obama and the democrats plan for us. Don’t think they won’t still go for Cap & Tax, card check, fairness doctrine, Obama Youth and so on. The Supreme Court and elections might be troublesome to them but I’m sure they’ll try to work around any such inconveniences. Our best hope is that the state governments will somehow preserve our freedom. Our governors and AGs have never been more critical to us.
The Democrats got healthcare through with surprisingly united Republican opposition.
Who here believes that the GOP will do the same on amnesty?
How do we stop amnesty when so many of the GOP agree with the Democrats?
Healthcare can be overturned if conservatives win back the House, Senate and Presidency.
If amnesty passes, conservatives will never win another election.
The Democrats will be the majority party until they are supplanted by La Raza.
Illegal immigration has been a trickle compared to the tidal wave of humanity that will be coming.
Martin – numbers 1 and 2 are, of course very good and much needed. However, I think numbers 3, 4 and 5 are brilliant. I’ve wondered about number 5 for years and listened to discussion about number 3. Are you referencing any source in particular or is this from your brain?
That is 100% wrong. It is CRITICAL that we flush the current leadership out of the Republican party NOW!!! Otherwise, all we will have accomplished in restoring those corrupt weasels to power is to have gone full circle with the only ones paying a price is US.
I am afraid that the only party that can save us doesn’t exist. Yet.
Read today’s “Villainous Company” article. You “Republican Uber Alles” people keep putting party over principle regardless of how far we spiral downward. Well, we are nearing the end of that spiral and both parties will have been complicit.
How easily we allow our emotions to numb our powers to reason.
I’m sure that’s the way Obama and the democrats see it but they may not have all the calculus right. In my part of Virginia the hispanic population is huge and they are by no means a solid block for the demos. Most are hard-working, pro-life Catholics and will resist being manipulated. The demos want the hispanics to be “honorary blacks” and vote like it. The freeloaders will be less likely to vote than the working family types. Sure ACORN and La Raza will try to drag them to the polls but we can fight back. Most people who immigrate here believe America offers them opportunity and if we stand for solid conservative values the demos will not be able to turn them into a block vote. It would be ironic if the demos legalized a bunch of new voters only to wake up and find Marco Rubio their next president.
Go right ahead. By the time you’re done flushing Republicans, your nation will be unrecognizable. Teaching the GOP a lesson in 2006 & 2008 got us into this mess.
No Republican voted for this health bill. None. Why throw any of them overboard, and chance getting another Democrat in the process, while trying to weed out the party? In my book, they’ve all been good girls and boys and deserve our respect…for now. There are a handfull we can all agree need to go…but there is a time and place for those things, namely in the primaries.
OK, what REALLY happens when America actually does go bankrupt, as Dems seem to want? I’m ready to start burying mason jars with money in my back yard, or just buying one helluva safe.
We sent a message to Republicans to start that reformation but now we have socialized medicine. I am not happy about it but expected it when Obama won with Democratic majorities. I can’t believe how difficult it was for them but they still did it (so far). That scares me that more bad stuff could follow before we have another election.
I am inclined to work on stopping the Donks first but we do need to know the direction of the Republican party. Steele, McCain, Graham, etc. These leaders are NOT doing what we want. They still don’t get it. Hard enough to convince 150 million voters they are wrong when your own party can’t make up its mind.
What are we going to do? Battle for control and direction of the Republican party all the way through the November election? If so, then we will lose again because we are in chaos. Or maybe the election in November will decide that question. Thats not so good either as important election time will be wasted on infighting. We need to get it together in 2010 not 2011.
I believe you are confusing Hispanic citizens for illegal immigrants. Both parties have agreed to allow La Raza to represent and speak for the illegals. Trust me, they will vote Democrat once they get amnesty. The legal Hispanics citizens (as well as blacks) are not for amnesty but they are not the ones who will tip the scales. They are already with us.
It is utterly foolish to believe that either of the Democratic parties are going to help us. It is time for us frogs to jump out of the cauldron while we still can before we boil to death.
We may be approaching the moment when a ten million man march on Washington will be our only hope. The Estonians did that with their “singing revolution” and toppled a totalitarian Soviet government without firing a shot.
Imagine ten million Americans singing “God Bless America” and other patriotic songs for hours on end at the top of their lungs on the National Mall surrounded by the National Guard. If that doesn’t inspire the country and the world to stand up and be counted for liberty nothing will.
The United States of America
July 4, 1776 – March 21, 2010
234 years of Liberty and Freedom destroyed in 425 days.
I like it Phil,
April 15th is the day. Sing, sing out loud, sing out strong! We shall overcome.
Thank you kindly for your complements. No source, although I am certain it isn’t new.
There was a small movement, post FDR for the return to strict Constitutionalism, but according to my Dad, Wilson’s thugs had taken much of the starch out of anyone who wanted to stand on their rights against the Feds…
You might wnat to look at this from Mises: The Income Tax
Let the beheadings begin… Ooops… NancyPo already lost hers
As far as I am aware, the commerce claws has been used to government commerce between the states but not between individuals.
I agree with a single blanket excwption:
Those R’s who have shown a repeated contempt for the Constitution MUST go!
(hear that McCain!)
If we make the Constitution our loadstar and judge the weasles by that we will keep most of the R’s anyway… and almost NONE of the D’s.
That should satisfy everyone here and I would like to point out that anyone who rebuts this with comments that boil down to “strictly following the Constitution as a sieve will leave us no one…” has already missed the point.
You don’t fix a leak by turing the water on more. You turn it off & repair the hole.
I know a hole in AZ that need caulking, too… [evil grin]
Drat! My daughter-inlaw is here to make me leave the computer… and she’s brought out the Big Guns: my Grand Daughters…
Well, their house, so I must…
I really dislike being my age sometimes… I feel like I’m being raised all over again.
‘Night All.
Michelle, I wish I had your optimism, because those scofflaws didn’t elect themselves. It took a nation of lobotomized, semi-comatose, pea-brained, constitutioanally-challenged constituents to put those buffoons into office. Politicians are mere reflections of their constituency. Remember, when someone points a finger at someone, three fingers are pointing back at himself. The majority voters are entitled to a heaping helping of self-loathing for their dereliction of duty.
Good one Martin. Sad but true.
Never say never. Many in your generation paid a high price for our freedom. A price liberals would not consider paying themselves. I’d like to think that you and others will see this through. So lay off the motocross, skydiving and sword swallowing for a while, and we’ll all see what we can muster to put this kcik this Dem utopia to the curb.
Well said NJ. I have grandkids that I desperately want to have the same America we’ve known and loved. I choose to believe the best is yet to come, and will do whatever I can for them. Could it be our grandkids will see an even better country? Believe it! These cretin are going down.
*I have no plans on giving up; We have an enemy within that must be thrown off by all lawful means; They have no right to my labor, as slavery has been abolished; I do not, and will not, work for the benefit of the couch sitting, donut eating, Oprah watching, sorry a$$ excuses for human beings that voted for P-BO in 2008; His purposeful destruction of our beloved country will end on 11/2/2010, the day I call Endependence Day!
Uh oh. I ate a doughnut and watched Oprah once. Well, 10 minutes of it. Maybe I have met the enemy, and he is me!!?!
Take a good look at that pic at the top of the thread and tell me…how do those morons really scare anybody? Do you realize their approval is at 15%? Where is this formidable menace we are supposedly conquered by?
Always thought Waxman looks like the rat faced guy from Harry Potter.
Not only that. Its worse.
The President and Congress intend to use the commerce clause in the Constitution to regulate Individuals that do not wish to buy anything and therefore do not wish to engage in commerce .
A Georgetown law professor wrote an article about the unconstitutional nature of Obamacares mandates. HERE
Long but good.
Why the Personal Mandate to Buy Health Insurance Is Unprecedented and Unconstitutional
Look b4 I post, jrgdds beat me to it, my bad.
Here’s my own version.
No bad – kudos to you both. And from the article:
All this talk about backlash and Republican landslides is very premature. The Democrats just purchased 30,000,000 new votes. In November, the Democrat machine will drive through the low income neighborhoods in buses with loudspeakers warning people to get on board and vote against the evil Republicans promising to “steal” their “right” to free healthcare. And it just might work.
From the article cited in #280 and #281:
I expect they will try this …
I also believe that November will be much closer than Republicans believe but for different reasons. The push for blanket amnesty is already underway in full force and guess who is already calling us bigots? Yup, Graham.
I predict that there WILL be a bipartisan push for amnesty this year because the GOP believes that they will win anyway. They knew that they would be slaughtered at the polls in 2006 and 2008 but jumped off that cliff anyway, just like the Dems just did.
If that doesn’t prove that there is only one party, I don’t know what will. In a one party system, people are always angry but elections no longer matter. Welcome to the new Banana Republic of North America.
Phil, if you don’t see any difference between the parties, how come you only attack the Republicans? Don’t you have any problem with what the democrats just actually did or do you only worry about what you predict the Republicans might do?
Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the like are no better than crack dealers, giving it away to get you hooked.
Once the people are hooked there will be no going back.
You are being obtuse. You must be a rabid LA Clippers fan. Always a lottery team but never seem to make any changes to their approach to the game. Yeah, let’s return THIS Republican party to power in November just after they help the Dems pass a blanket amnesty bill which, if you watched the news tonight, they already doing.
Your point would only make sense if THIS Republican party did not spend the eight years before Obama expanding big government, the national debt, and pursuing open borders/blanket amnesty… just like the Democrats! Why are you so upset that the Dems push for these things but seem to be okay with the Republicans pushing for them? See a problem here?
I spend a lot of time attacking THIS Republican party because it is utterly inexcusable that after orchestrating two electoral catastrophes, the same leadership is still in charge. That is unacceptable. This is a very bad party. The most important issue for Republicans this year is to make sure that the party has new leadership, not that Republicans win in November. With THIS leadership, all we would be doing is returning power to the Democrats’ Team B again.
You know those scenes with Homer Simpson where he only has two choices and they are both wrong but he keeps alternating back and forth over and over again and getting an electrical shock each time but never learns? Sound familiar?
If you can’t come up with any better argument for my position than to express childish disbelief that someone cannot see a difference between the Democrat Party and the Assistant Democrat Party, why say anything at all?
There was a big difference between Quisling and Hitler too but they were both evil Nazis. I don’t how else to explain it to you. Don’t argue like a petulant child. Address what I say and be honest about it.
Dems are not worried about the constitution. They own the executive, legislative, AND judicial branches of government. Who’s to stop them?
Hence, socialized health care.
No difference? How many Republicans voted for Healthcare?
As Marc Levin said, “The Republicans have stood firm. They are out numbered and they need reinforcements.” You play with the team that you have. That’s reality. You cannot clck your ruby slippers three times and get the LA Lakers, Dorothy.
If whining about history makes you feel good, knock yourself out. But until we have primaries and elections the team we have is the team we have. They are all we have between us and the Marxists.
I have always been an Independent. I am a Conservative. But I wrote today in this thread I am joining the Republican party, because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I may not like the Soviet Union, but if they can help keep the Nazis from killing me, well the vodka is on me.
I’ll deal with the Soviet Union when the Nazis have been dispatched.
Bottom line. Between now and November with the Conservatives and the RINO’s we can keep up the fight on Healthcare, degrade the run away spending, keep Gitmo open, defeat radical appointments and keep terrorists trials out of the country, among other things.
Yep, we may lose on other things like amnesty because of people like McCain. But being 4-4 between now and Novemeber sure beats 0-8.
Excellent post by Powerline’s Paul Mirengoff giving a perfect example of what is desperately wrong with THIS Republican party.
Yep, and they also have support from most of the news media, Hollywood, the teachers, the unions and many churches. It’s discouraging, sure, but I still have hope that the state governments will stand up to them. Virginia’s new governor and AG are definitely in the forefront now.
Flyoverman, elections almost don’t matter anymore and won’t if people like you still magnify meaningless differences to appear like they matter.
And as I said to Valleygreaser, address my point, not some strawman argument that sets you up to appear to be scoring points. If the only difference that matters to you is that Republicans are in charge when nationalized healthcare, cap and trade, amnesty and the rest of the progressive agenda gets passed, then we have nothing to say to each other.
The only time between Reagan and Obama that government shrunk and the national debt shrunk were the Clinton years. Oh no! Does not compute! Danger Will Robinson! Danger Will Robinson! Inconsistent with Republican Uber Alles alternative reality!!! Abort! Abort!
I say, shut them up. I’m tired of casting my pearls before swine. I’m done trying to convince them. They are not interested in the truth. They play hardball – we play hardball right back. They’ve squandered their opportunity on the field of honest debate. They’ve hardened their hearts, now let God harden them. Those reprobates will still be shaking their fists at the God of Heaven as they are cast into the Lake. I say screw them. Ban them. I never care to hear from another one again. May God have mercy on their souls.
None of the rest amounts to anything if we lose on amnesty.
If we lose on amnesty, there will NEVER be another GOP President.
It will be the end of America as I have known her for 50 years.
Once you abandon the rule of law, there’s no going back.
Once you surrender your sovereignty, you are done as a nation.
Amnesty is national suicide.
Our nation “struck the iceberg” a long time ago. It’s just now beginning to dawn on most that “Hey. This ship is really going to sink.”
FOX has an article on its site which claims that while the IRS is supposed to collect the fines for those who fail to buy health insurance, it wasn’t given the funding to do so. They could subtract the fine from a refund check, but it there is no refund, the IRS can’t do anything. OOPS! And these guy want to micro-manage our lives.
Phil,
You may not have noticed but the people in charge are Marxists, they are not even Democrats. The are currently trying to destroy our way of life.
For you to fail to acknowledge that the ONLY group with any hope of stopping them in the near term is the GOP is irrational. No other group has sufficient “combat power” available to mount an effective defense them.
By the time you get all the fixes to the GOP that you DEMAND there will be no America left. That’s reality. Deal with it.
You want to be 3-5 with the GOP or 0-8 without them between now and November?
You’re livid over what the GOP did in the past and ignoring the people who right now are trying to actively destroy your way of life. I find no logic in that.
Then abandon ship and get out of the way. There are those of us who intend to repair the damage and get back underway.
I am sick and tired of this defeatist “bolshoi” as the Russians would say.
Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Our opponents could not even manage the Senate cafeteria.
Know your enemy. We can hit back at them from a hundred directions. We just have to stop defending and start attacking…………relentlessly.
Right on. Generations have made great sacrifices for our way of life. I’m not going to be moaning that the ship is sinking; I’m going to get busy bailing water.
Valley,
You fill the bucket. I’ll carry it topside for you and bring it back.
On March 23rd, 2010 at 12:01 am, Flyoverman said:
True.
Know your enemy,
the best defense is a good offense,
and know how to put on the full armor:
It’s a good bet they alrady own those votes.
Wait until seniors figure out that, for the $250 they got, their own doctor quit his/her practice and no one else will take them as a PCP.
I am glad people are getting fired up, but I don’t know if this is going to do much good, especially if Obama and the RINOs pass amnesty.
I thought I was depressed last night, but I just read the latest Buchanan column and I don’t know if I could feel any lower. He cites statistics which seem to prove the overwhelming advantage democrats have in naturalized citizens.
The correlation seems absolute. The more immigrants who come in and become citizens, the more Democratic the country becomes.
Now, more than ever, everyone should watch The Constitution and Freedom
Then when Pelosi or others decide what is a “right” you can set them straight.
And those who force amnesty on us are committing national homicide.
I have pointed out to our worthless DC “representatives” many times that the U.S. Constitution says it is, “a job of the federal government to protect all the states from invasion.”
There was a time when that alone would have prompted real action to retain our sovereignty. However, since the Constitution has been kicked to the curb and is about to be picked up illegals and thrown in the trash truck, quoting the Constitution is a waste of time.
I am proud to say that my Congressman, John Boozman, gets an A+ from http://www.numbersusa.com for his efforts to secure the borders and prevent amnesty.
If we conceed the language we have lost before we’ve begun.
There is NOTHING Democratic about the Democrat party! The push to change the label (and thereby steal a pass to the highground by habituating the citizenry’s thinking to consider those Tyrants as “democratic and for the people”, ie the Democrat party…) is a recent one, and one I have never and will never conceed!
Phil, for a while I believed as you do.
I have, after much rabid disagreement within our family been convinced that Levin is right: we need to take back the “R” party.(yes I find saying that highly distasteful…).
The R’s have the apperatus all in place, it would require less expenditure of resources to take it over rethaer than create our own. That includes the the time factor.
Another (few) point(s):
We are out of time. The R’s move slowly and are timid enough to allow us to sway them. After we rebuild the “R’s”, we can use their majority to dismantle the roadblocks they (and the Dem-Progs) have set in place to keep the field limited to two viable parties. George Washington’s words have proven true, and we must reverse the damage done to our Constitution to alllow us to follow his advice.
So, unfortunately, we must (w/provisos) support the R’s. McCain & Grabbag Lindsey Graham, for example MUST GO! More so than Snow or the Northern Traitors. These two (McCain & Graham) are the Progressive Leaders within the Repubs. If we cut the head off that snake, we’ll have atleast 2 election cycles while the remaining Progressives within the Repubs fight for control.
We need the time that the R-Party will buy with their “slowboat-to-hell” to be able to work. That is the only reason I would reverse course & vote LOTE, that is, with an eye to replacing the LOTE-Lout ASAP.
Dr. Appointment, have to go!
(How much longer will someone in their 90s still be able to say that? Well maybe the “Got to go”, but with a different meaning…)
I will remain engaged and fighting up until amnesty passes, then it will be time to stock up and hunker down. Congress will have given away my country. Then it becomes a matter of survival in the new world order. Foreign nationals were never intended to decide our fate as a nation. Amnesty will do exactly that. Swearing in an ineligible man as President makes it possible. It was the PRIMARY purpose of the phrase Natural Born Citizen. The founders rejected native born as insufficient. Too bad we no longer can understand plain English.