Condemning Threats, Condemning Assumptions

By Doug Powers  •  March 24, 2010 11:53 PM

Not long ago, I saw this on Drudge:

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Naturally curious to see what kind of physical violence people like me might be capable of, I clicked the link:

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is warning that some of his Democratic colleagues are being threatened with violence when they go back to their districts — and he wants Republicans to stand up and condemn the threats.

The Maryland Democrat said more than 10 House Democrats have reported incidents of threats or other forms of harassment about their support of the highly divisive health insurance overhaul vote. Hoyer emphasized that he didn’t have a specific number of threats and that was just an estimate.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation, Capitol Police and sergeant at arms briefed Democrats behind closed doors today about the incidents of violence — the most high profile of which have been toward Democratic Reps. Thomas Perriello of Virginia, Steve Driehaus of Ohio and Louise Slaughter of New York.

Hoyer hinted that Republicans should do more to condemn these threats of violence.

The fact that plenty of Republicans get threats every day and nobody says a thing notwithstanding, taking Hoyer’s words at face value, as a conservative Republican, I condemn real threats of violence almost as much as I condemn desperate claims that are manufactured in a cheap attempts to further broken agendas. That said, I’d like Rep. Hoyer and people of all political stripes to condemn the assumption that any physical threats of retribution over the health care bill are coming from Republicans.

Sure, maybe some of us owe Steny an apology for over-reacting to the completely unfounded fear that thousands of IRS agents may soon be monitoring our blood pressure, collecting urine samples and making sure we haven’t kicked our 25-year-old kids out of our basements and off our insurance doles — but, as sure as Bart Stupak’s already secretly working on his concession speech, I know this bothers more than just Republicans.

Steny’s been busy serving the constitution the way a dog serves a fire hydrant, so maybe he hasn’t had time to notice, but a solid majority of the country is against this bill that recently passed through the Senate and House, and is in the process of passing through America like shards of glass through the bowels of a hemophiliac. Hoyer may not have taken the time to consider that Americans are incensed by the passage of this bill, and as such there’s a slight chance that non-Republicans are less than happy too.

For example, there’s a group of people in this country who are furious at Stupak for fronting the group of Reps who are responsible for the elimination of public funding for abortion (albeit temporarily via an executive order that could be rescinded by the time I finish writing this sentence), and, rest assured, most of those people are not Republicans.

The public’s affection for Congress is hovering just below “genital herpes” on the approval chart. You can’t get a number that low without bipartisan disdain. Maybe there are many Democrats around the country who are angry with Democrats in DC. After all, Scott Brown wasn’t elected because of any historical Republican domination of Massachusetts politics.

Most Republicans, and others who are tired of watching their country being stolen, are looking forward to this year’s elections the way Nancy Pelosi anticipates “double coupon day” at the Nip/Tuck clinic.

Republicans don’t need physical violence — we’ve got November 2nd, and subsequently the possible repeal of Obamacare. Of course, as Steny might say, that’s an unspecified number of threats and just an estimate, but it’s the best I can do.

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  1. #1
    On March 24th, 2010 at 11:59 pm, jimyai said:

    I Think they are lying liars.

  2. #2
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:05 am, NascarFan70 said:

    We all know that Republicans get more death threats….The Dems just make up the threats to make everyone feel sorry for them.

  3. #3
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:06 am, twofoot said:

    I saw where they are also complaining that republicans apparently aren’t condemning the threats loudly enough to satisfy their democrat masters.

    Sorry, but even if the threats are taking place, I don’t see why republicans in DC should do anything to help out the democrats. They made their bed by defying the will of the people, let them deal with the blowback.

  4. #4
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:10 am, Flyoverman said:

    As factual as the global warming data coming out of NOAA.

  5. #5
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:17 am, Brian said:

    Is it just me, or is there anyone else out there who sees it this way?

    Code Pink has recently claimed credit for a fake email/press release made to look like it was a statement of AIPAC policy (that AIPAC condemns Israel for building more settlements in Jerusalem). It suckered several news agencies, including Fox News.

    Before we apologize too much over any such events, maybe we ought to verify who actually made the threats . . . and who might have (if it happened at all) spat on congressmen and racially-slurred minority congressmen.

    Lest there be no doubt at all: I abhor and condemn completely and unequivocally anyone and everyone who did or said such things (notice I’m not weaselingly saying: “I do not approve”).

    But, if such nastiness happened at all, how do we know it was “our” nut cases and not “their” nut cases?

    I’m just saying . . . remember Code Pink . . .

  6. #6
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:18 am, AmericaFirst said:

    Michelle has documented many Fake Democrat Hate Crimes in her blog. If it’s a threat or act of violence, it’s Democrat on Democrat crime… with main stream media fingers pointed at Republicans and Conservatives. The DNC journalist agenda.

  7. #7
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:19 am, d1carter said:

    The elite media has been cheer leading the Dems since the crap sandwich passed. It will progressively get worse until November. Then it will pick up again in 2012.

  8. #8
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:19 am, valleygreaser said:

    I have never heard Hoyer condemn the Manson murders. Why not? Does this mean he condones them? I demand he condemn Charles Manson and disassociate himself from him immediately.

  9. #9
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:21 am, MarcoPolo said:

    There’s a very significant chance that the threats are coming from the Progressives who wanted a Public Option.

  10. #10
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:24 am, txvet2 said:

    Democrats lie about everything. They lied about the racial epithets from the tea partiers, they’re undoubtedly lying about the “threatening” phone calls. If anybody’s making calls, it’s probably Rahmbo or another one of the Politburo. Anything for a sympathy play to keep from getting slaughtered at the ballot box in November. Not gonna work, you slimebags.

  11. #11
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:31 am, Flyoverman said:

    Okay let’s apologize. Can we do it in chronological order?

    FDR for Pearl Harbor
    Truman for supporting the French over Ho Chi Minh resulting in 2wars
    Democrats for opposing the Civil Rights Act
    Robert Byrd for being in the KKK
    Bill Clinton for writing he detested the Army
    Ted Kennedy’s family for his leaving a woman to drown
    John Kerry for giving himself a medal for a self-inflicted wound
    Democrats for abandoning thecontras in the field
    Bill Clinton for rape
    John Kerry for perjury about alledged war crimes he never saw.
    Democrats for abandoning South Vietnam
    Janet Reno for Waco
    Bill Clinton for blaming talk radio for the OK City bombing
    Alcee Hastings for his impeachment
    Charlie Rangel for income tax evasion
    Tim Geithner for cheating on his taxes
    Barney Frank for having his home used for male prostitution
    John Murtha’s family to the Haiditha Marines
    Dick Durbin for calling soldiers Nazis
    Jerry Stubbs for soliciting young pages
    Barack Obama for no C-SPan.
    Barack Obama……. the list is endless..
    ..
    ..

  12. #12
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:35 am, thefoundingfathers said:

    Is this the first time we have seen Dems scream they are being threatened by “crazy right wingers”? No and they will surely generate some type of bad publicity for the Tea Party movement even if they have to do it themselves. I will be suspicious of any act of violence towards a Dem that is blamed on the conservative movement.

    The rash of nooses that were being blamed on white people over the past several years that were actually put up by blacks to draw attention to them and try to throw negative attenetion on “crazy white people”.

  13. #13
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:41 am, love2rumba said:

    If you want civility, you gotta give it yourself before you point the finger.Period.

    Steny Hoyer… what gall.

  14. #14
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:42 am, Hangfire said:

    Where’s my “Honk if you’re a Tea Party Terrorist” bumper sticker?

  15. #15
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:03 am, Bogtrotter said:

    We will see the left’s outrage disappears if it is learned the threats are either invented or committed by liberals for attention and to manufacture outrage. It is not like it has not happened before.

  16. #16
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:07 am, tarpon said:

    The Democrats have to discredit the tea party people, else they are cooked and they know it. They staged the walk through the tea party crowd to provoke a reaction, which didn’t come, so they manufactured one.

    Meanwhile our Senate is being destroyed right before our eyes … The filibuster is the only thing that separated America’s republic from two-bit tin pot Venezuela style democracy, ie tyranny.

    Stalin used the phrase; peace, jobs and democracy in his mayday events. Meanwhile all, as he called them, useful idiots kept reelecting him. As in Saddam got reelected too with 95% of the vote, he was loved so much.

  17. #17
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:21 am, BobonStatenIsland said:

    As much as any of the Libs may have what’s coming to them, I seriously doubt any will suffer from any real physical violence. Not a one. That said, then anything like a noose on a door knob will be the works of Libs claiming Conservatives did it. I will only believe them if a Lib actually ends up in the emergency room with serious life threatening injuries. Otherwise, it’s all BS. If I ever went home to my mother complaining that I was being threatened at shcool she would have laughed in my face and told me to deal with it. They are a bunch of whiners. This is a tactic, though, even if they are whiners regardless.

  18. #18
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:35 am, BobonStatenIsland said:

    Don’t you wish the old practice of Tar & Feathering would make a comeback?

  19. #19
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:40 am, traveler49 said:

    There will come a time of violence. It is not here yet. When it does come, it will explode across the land and most likely be perpetrated by liberals on the dole that are not getting enough free stuff fast enough, as our resources run dry. The right will not stand idly by while the left riots and loots what they have worked for their whole lives. This will get bloody and then we can start rebuilding.

  20. #20
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:58 am, Freddy said:

    This is all a stunt by some Dems to try to gain sympathy.

    I bet they have ALL gotten louder and ruder comments from the war protesters than anything anyone has said regarding this health care bill!

  21. #21
    On March 25th, 2010 at 4:58 am, Socky said:

    Let me ask you this. Suppose one of these threats or actions does turn out to be legitimate. And suppose, furthermore, it was done by someone with a legitimate connection to the Tea Party movement.

    So what?

    Would that mean it’s okay for Obama to be running up massive deficits? It’s okay for a bankrupt Government to be rolling out massive new entitlement programs? Would it delegitimize everything the Tea Parties stand for?

    You see, the progressive left can not win the argument on deficits. The progressive left cannot win the argument on the massive expansion of Government taking place under Obama. They cannot even win the argument on the massive health care takeover they just passed.

    The only thing they can do is try to smear the people making the argument. So, that’s what they’re doing

  22. #22
    On March 25th, 2010 at 7:16 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:42 am, Hangfire said:

    Where’s my “Honk if you’re a Tea Party Terrorist” bumper sticker?

    It is in the mail ;)
    ===
    House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer SHOULD live in fear-he should fear that he may have to live under the fascist state he is helping to bring about. I would not mind slapping the punk around myself but I guess it would look bad.

    Damn

  23. #23
    On March 25th, 2010 at 7:31 am, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    Let’s see. For over a year anybody who has disagreed with the socialists (Democrats) has been called every name in the book. Regardless of protests, pleas, admonitions and warnings, the socialist have continued with their attempts to destroy liberty in America. Now they are reaping what they have sown. I predict an uncomfortable Easter recess, a long hot summer and more as the run-up to election is in process.

    I have no sympathy at all for these socialists. They have deliberately built this into a potentially violent confrontation. If they are afraid, they can hide out in their capitol offices and stay away from their constituents. Actually, that is probably the best idea because nobody can predict at this point what they will be greeted with upon return home.

    And one last point, this has nothing to do with partisan politics. This is not a Republican vs Democrat problem. This is a socialist vs a freedom loving American problem.

  24. #24
    On March 25th, 2010 at 7:48 am, DogBreath said:

    It’s the Communist way.

    “Executive order 1.

    Due to the threat of violence and breakdown of social order we are imposing martial law. We will be suspending elections and some parts of the constitution until the present emergency passes and we have restored order.

    News organizations and websites will have their content screened for radical content. Those found in violation directives will have their licenses suspended and temporarily shutdown.

    There will be camps erected for members of radical groups where they will be held until we can rule on the threat they pose to society.

    Private gun ownership will be temporarily suspended.

    Have no worries, your government is in control.

    Signed President for life BHO.”

  25. #25
    On March 25th, 2010 at 7:57 am, tre said:

    As a Christian Conservative Republican, I condem violence and threats of violence committed by Conservatives.

    There, House Majority Leader (soon, minority leader) Steny Hoyer.

    Now, lets hear you condem a looney liberal flying his plane into a Government Building in Austin, and SEIU thugs assaulting a man at a union meeting, and Black Panthers standing outside a polling place in Philidelphia holding nightsticks and intimidating voters, and ACORN’s illegal voting activities, and……

    Well? I’m waiting……

  26. #26
    On March 25th, 2010 at 8:14 am, rambler said:

    Gee, you mean these thin skinned whiners can’t take a little death threat. Maybe they should try being a conservative for a while or ask Joe the plumber what life was like in the spot light. Those who can’t take it shouldn’t dish it out. What about all those accusations of racism from their side.They should remember who ACORN and SEIU support. When they quell the violence coming from their own side, maybe others might listen. What goes around, comes around – chickens coming home to roost and all that. In the mean time – I’ll keep the violins handy.

  27. #27
    On March 25th, 2010 at 8:23 am, Ty85719 said:

    This is the Little Democrat That Cried Wolf – time and time again, they make false claims. When something does eventually occur, everyone will ignore them…perhaps they will even deem it deserving.

  28. #28
    On March 25th, 2010 at 8:31 am, stillontheroad said:

    I did not hear anything from the Craps about the hanging of Sarah Palin and John McCain in effigy a couple years ago in CA. It was art, was all I heard and what I also heard was “ but its Halloween” and all the Craps snickered.

  29. #29
    On March 25th, 2010 at 8:35 am, Flyoverman said:

    Threats of violence are never justified, but don’t expect people to give you flowers when you are a lying weasel.

  30. #30
    On March 25th, 2010 at 8:41 am, NJRepublican said:

    I refuse to treat the supposed violence as coming from the Tea Parties. Since the beginning, we have known that we had to argue on the merits and not resort to threats or violence. I don’t even “threaten” about getting them in Nov because I know these pansies would claim it’s a threat to their life. I condemn any violence, but I refuse to apologize for it. There is no proof that it is coming from our side and even if it were, we’d chase them out. It’s just not tolerated. (I guess the Dems are right – we’re not as tolerant as they are!)

  31. #31
    On March 25th, 2010 at 8:56 am, John Deaux said:

    Well, the Dems condemned violence when the GOP was in power, so why not.

    What? They didn’t? They invited Code Pink into the gallery so they could disrupt Congress?

  32. #32
    On March 25th, 2010 at 8:57 am, iamsaved said:

    Typical Democrat head fake that, like most others, is getting old. Their intent is to put the Republicans on the defensive by having them defend the indefensible. It’s becoming as annoying as their yelling rascism at each turn.

    BTW, the Carnahan incident with the casket in St. Louis is a media “twist” to slam conservatives and protect Carnahan.

  33. #33
    On March 25th, 2010 at 8:58 am, TacitEagle said:

    These so called Democrats are curiously pathetic little creatures. They want to take control of our lives without any repercussions. It’s as if they believe that we should be grateful when they take away our individual liberties and make us dependents of the state. What they don’t seem to understand is that a vast majority of us want to be free and intend to remain free.

  34. #34
    On March 25th, 2010 at 8:58 am, war9093 said:

    Here’s one the “threats” a Dem received and how the police handled it. / sark

    http://biggovernment.com/capitolconfidential/2010/03/19/the-heat-is-on-congressmans-office-says-constituent-calls-are-harassment/

    So calling your congressman disagreeing with them is now harassment and subject to being threatened by the police. nice huh?

  35. #35
    On March 25th, 2010 at 8:59 am, graysonret said:

    This all is nothing new. It’s been done since there was politicians. There are always radicals on the left and right. The MSM plays it up to help their agenda. Politics as usual. Conservatives get threats all the time, including MM; no big deal to the MSM. One liberal gets a threat and it’s the top news story of the day.

  36. #36
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:05 am, hypocricy snark said:

    THANK YOU THANK YOU for voicing my internal SCREAM.

    Maybe this is a set up to RESTRICTING FREE SPEECH…a set up for FCC regulations; outcroppings of the “Tienanmen Square” of America. Does this mean that EVERY town hall will be restricted to only FRIENDLY voices?

  37. #37
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:06 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is warning that some of his Democratic colleagues are being threatened with violence when they go back to their districts — and he wants Republicans to stand up and condemn the threats.

    First, who says these threats really exists? And IF they did, who says it’s republican constituents making them? It’s clearly more likely that if a threat were made it would be coming from some extremist liberal nutcase. Lord knows, there are lots of them. So Steny Hoyer can stick it where the sun don’t shine, right after he “stands up” and tells his lunatic liberal base to go take some lithium.

    And what the hell kind of first name is Steny?????

  38. #38
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:08 am, sbw999 said:

    A threat is just that…a threat. It is borne of the frustration of having a government pass laws whether we like it or not. Dems will play this, along with their azz clowns in the media, to the hilt. Who cares. We need to soldier on to November when all these creeps will be thrown out of office.

  39. #39
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:09 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    Here’s the ONYL statement any republican should make.

    “We have no association with any person or organization committing or making threats to commit violent acts towards any member of congress. This is a matter for law enforcement to address.”

  40. #40
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:19 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    There were many good Germans who tried to vote out Hitler – and failed.

    As for threats… What about the threat of having the IRS show up at my house to drag me away in the middle of the night at the point of a gun for refusing to pay for health insurance or the fine they impose for not buying it?

    Oh you say! That’s not the same, that’s the rule of law and the government has to have a means to enforce laws written by it’s duly elected representatives.

    To that I say – refer to the Hitler statement above. Everything Hitler did was ‘legal’ and, as Joseph Goebbels would be quick to point out, the Germans who obeyed Hitler were just law abiding citizens.

  41. #41
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:19 am, b-cat said:

    Because the looney lefties never threaten or attack Republicans. Oh no, never. :roll:

    http://www.cassyfiano.com/2008/10/unhinged-liberals-strike-in-virginia

  42. #42
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:19 am, valleygreaser said:

    Clyburn says Republicans are aiding and abetting terrorism against democrats. The democrats are great whiners and maybe that’s what they are doing but I fear more sinister motives. I think they are now trying to create a climate where their opponents can be intimidated and silenced. To the extent they equate Tea party people and Republicans with domestic terrorists many of us will fear being too overly critical of them since we don’t want to be seen as crazy extremists. A few arrests of dissidents will probably come soon and that will help chill debate here on MM and in other places. The burning of the Reichstag may come soon.

  43. #43
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:21 am, b-cat said:
  44. #44
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:24 am, happyscrapper said:

    I tend to agree here…this smells like a set-up. I’m not saying there aren’t any right-wing nut cases out there. But this just doesn’t sound right to me. First, they whine about “possible” violence, and they are “frightened” (a la Pelosi and her crocidile tears). That was the “set-up”. Then they make up the racial taunts that no one heard except the tauntees. This is totally typical of liberal tricks. They need to PROVE who did these things, or shut up. Oh, and how many of them condemned all the violence toward Bush and people on the right? Have you heard anyone speak out about all the violence against conservatives trying to give speeches at colleges and universities? I am so sick and tired of these double standards!! We need to stand up for our rights and stop allowing these a-holes to railroad us!!

  45. #45
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:24 am, b-cat said:
  46. #46
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:27 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    NJ-Aviator said: Here’s the ONLY statement any republican should make.

    “We have no association with any person or organization committing or making threats to commit violent acts towards any member of congress. This is a matter for law enforcement to address.”

    Count me out of that. I’ll take the SAME tact as lame liberals do on abortion. “Oh I’d never condone an abortion …but it’s not my place to stand in the way of someone else who chooses to have one.”

    Goose meet gander liberal scum; I don’t condone threatening violence on liberals…but it’s not my place to stand in the way of someone else who chooses to do that.

  47. #47
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:27 am, TigerLady said:

    iamsaved said:
    Typical Democrat head fake that, like most others, is getting old. Their intent is to put the Republicans on the defensive by having them defend the indefensible. It’s becoming as annoying as their yelling rascism at each turn.
    BTW, the Carnahan incident with the casket in St. Louis is a media “twist” to slam conservatives and protect Carnahan.

    “We prayed for Russ Carnahan. We prayed that God would forgive him for taking away our freedom.”

    Prayer time is OVER—time to boot little Russie out of office. The sniveling coward makes me want to throw up. He reminds me of a school yard bully who gets his butt kicked then goes crying to the teacher. I hope the voters in Missouri remember his smarmy face when they vote–and then check the opponent’s name instead.

    Later, I’ll tell you how I really feel about him!

  48. #48
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:28 am, Mainah said:

    Rule 10. If you push a negative hard enough, it will become a positive. Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

    Alinskys Rules. we MUST start calling these out when they are so obvious. And we have to find a way to turn these rules back against them. we KNOw they are following the plan here, why is it so hard for us to say that and beat them at their own game?

  49. #49
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:28 am, b-cat said:

    I don’t put political bumper stickers on my car for fear of vandalism. This is a left wing bastion town, and I drive a convertible. I’m vulnerable. Nobody has threatened me, I just know what my friends and neighbors in this town are capable of, they being so tolerant and full of love of free and diverse speech and all.

  50. #50
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:36 am, Savage24 said:

    Why would any self respecting Conservative want to threaten a group of idiots that are already committing unassisted suicide? My bet is on the White House damage control unit.

  51. #51
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:39 am, valleygreaser said:

    Alec Baldwin said Rep. Henry Hyde and his family should be drug from their home and stoned to death. The liberals were outraged and it ruined his career, right? Oh. wait … he just finished hosting the Oscars.

  52. #52
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:39 am, granite said:

    I guess great minds do think alike!

    From yesterday’s “…Demcare Control Freaks Partying…” thread:

    On March 24th, 2010 at 10:19 pm, granite said:

    On March 24th, 2010 at 3:09 pm, jrgdds said:

    Fox News is reporting that Rep Hoyer says many Democrats have been receiving death threats because of their vote on health care.

    Until I see reliable corroborating documentation, what Hoyer says is meaningless…nothing more than socialists’ spinning, confusion, diversion, dishonesty, and BS.

    These socialists are so lame and obvious…besides being America-haters and the domestic enemy.

  53. #53
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:45 am, spaceycakes said:

    It’s a set-up allright. Fake crimes, fake reports and real crimes perpetrated by leftists, that will eventually spill over into conservatives defending themselves & property, in which they’ll be forced to do so with their 2nd amendment rights, then martial law and all hell breaks loose.

    Is that all you’ve got, Saruman?

  54. #54
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:46 am, spaceycakes said:

    Hoyer may not have taken the time to consider that Americans are incensed by the passage of this bill, and as such there’s a slight chance that non-Republicans are less than happy too.

    Hoyer is not the only one who is making this mistake.

  55. #55
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:46 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Michelle has documented case after case of liberal THUGS not just making violent threats but actually doing things like intimidating voters, beating heads and destroying public and private property.

    Everyone of these stories of supposed ‘violent threats’ from conservative activists can easily be met with examples of violent ACTS from liberal thugs.

  56. #56
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:47 am, max said:

    like shards of glass through the bowels of a hemophiliac.

    heh nice image!

  57. #57
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:49 am, no2pcbs1 said:

    when true agendas are exposed and corrupt sweetheart deals are brought out in the open, liberals do what they do best make up acts of violence directed at them.

  58. #58
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:49 am, max said:

    has anyone called a…
    WHAAAAAAAMMMMMBULANCE!

  59. #59
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:50 am, happy2behere said:

    Got threats? Prove it.

    My theory is that person(s)who put the noose on the prof’s door at Columbia University, or broke the windows at the Dem headquarters in Denver, are one in the same.

  60. #60
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:54 am, b-cat said:

    They have just passed legislation which amounts to “Let them eat cake”. They know they have done this, and fear the guillotine. So they are trying to short circuit the backlash with “Oh, they’re threatening us!”.

    Unlike the Bourbons though, these people are not royalty, born into a higher class to rule. No, they were elected from among us, to be one of us, to represent us. But they would be our masters.

  61. #61
    On March 25th, 2010 at 9:54 am, happyscrapper said:

    These morons need to PROVE who did these things. They are making an unfair assumption that these acts are committed by the right. How do they KNOW that? They are trying the right-wingers and Tea Party in the media. Again I say…no proof??? Then STFU. There is plenty of proof that the left has done these things. On Tape. Remember SEIU beating up that man at a town meeting? Remember the Panthers intimidating voters? There is so much on tape proving left-wing violence. Where are the tapes of Tea Partyiers? Remember the racial slur screamed out at a crowd during a democrat rally? They blamed it on a right-winger. Again, no proof. In fact, I believe it was found out later that a “plant” did it. This is so typical of their tactics that I will never believe a word of their accusations again.

  62. #62
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:06 am, b-cat said:

    Remember, we were having this discussion three days ago!

    On March 22nd, 2010 at 10:38 am, b-cat said:

    I wanna know the truth behind the crowds shouting ‘racial slurs’ I kept hearing about on the news this morning…another msm lie determined to cast shame on the conservatives?

    That’s my guess. I saw it on tv news yesterday, and I couldn’t hear the slurs. Of course the commenters were commenting while it was running, but if it were audible, I’m sure they would have let it play.

    Not that I’m trying to play Nostradamus or anything, but I smell a rat. A familiar rat.

    IMAO has direct You Tube links to the footage. There are no slurs.

    http://www.imao.us/

    All copied from the Gloater in Chief thread.

  63. #63
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:07 am, John Deaux said:

    I’m still waiting for the Dems to condemn the two guys in West Hollywood who hung Bush in effigy for Halloween a few years ago.

    First we take care of old business, then we get to new business.

  64. #64
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:14 am, RedDog said:

    Want to see real violence erupt? See what the entitlement loafer class do when November 3rd rolls around and they realize their free looting pass has been revoked. Then you will see the crap hit the fan. Never underestimate the ferocity of a bum denied his handout. At that point they get beat to the curb and given a brief American history lesson. “America doesn’t do Marxian Socialism, period, ever. Now go back to your crib and get high.”

    No pie for you.

  65. #65
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:16 am, spaceycakes said:

    thank you b-cat–the quote was mine from a few days back.

    I’ve summarized my feelings regarding these things in the post #59.

    It will come to a head, but I think it is what they’re planning.

  66. #66
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:18 am, b-cat said:

    spaceycakes

    It will come to a head, but I think it is what they’re planning.

    Yes, this was all planned out ahead of time.

  67. #67
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:26 am, Jeff2161 said:

    Epic Bearded Guy to the rescue.
    Definitely, NSFW.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sWgtGdl7KQ

  68. #68
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:28 am, graysonret said:

    Hate speech: A renewal of the Sedition Act of the 1790s, by another name…and more successful.

  69. #69
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:31 am, spaceycakes said:

    Let this be the hour when we draw swords together. Fell deeds await. Now for wrath. Now for ruin. And the red dawn!
    Forth Eorlingas!

  70. #70
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:31 am, dcbprime said:

    Fake threats are a long-standing liberal red herring.

    It happened here in Ohio when the ACS people who wrote the indoor smoking ban were having a press conference with businesses that stood to lose revenue.
    The ACS people left early, claimed it was because the State Trooper on duty as a security guard advised them to do so, as the discussion heated up, and they alleged that the Trooper overheard someone making threats.

    The OSHP has gone on record denying that any such threats were made.

    Additionally, these ACS libs claimed that someone had faxed them a threatening picture that involved a gun, yet they never reported that crime to any law enforcement agents of any type.

    Again and again, we see that false claims of threats originate from the Left.

    Hey, liberals: a threat is a crime, but failure to report a threat to law enforcement may also be a crime. It is here in Ohio. If it’s real, take it to the cops, so they can investigate it. I dare you.

  71. #71
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:34 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    If our Constitution is no longer being respected by our government as the basis for our freedoms, then it is inevitable that there will be violence and I predict that the government will be the first to use it.

    I expect that the National Mall may be the scene of an American “Tiananmen Square event” later this year should Congress decide to severely limit access to the mall in anticipation of a ten-million-man march by us Tea Party people.

    The make-or-break moment is coming and it may be sooner than many of us think. Why else would the government me attacking us so recklessly and spuriously? They are afraid.

  72. #72
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:35 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Correction: Why else would the government me be attacking us so recklessly and spuriously

  73. #73
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:51 am, frostrt said:

    To quote one of the libs’ least favorite people, Ann Coulter:

    “If more than fifty people know who you are, you have been proposed to, propositioned, and had your life threatened”.

    Any credible death threat should be investigated. It is, I believe, still a Federal crime to threaten our President or any elected official; whoever really made such a threat should be dealt with accordingly.

    As for the allegations of racial slurs and spitting: “show me the proof”!

  74. #74
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:52 am, Socky said:

    When an incident of violence is actually confirmed to have come from the right, then I’ll consider denouncing it. Until then, I have nothing to apologize for, or denounce.

    When will the left apologizes for lying about spitting and racial epithets being hurled at black congressman?

  75. #75
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:53 am, swmntman said:

    …Steny’s been busy serving the constitution the way a dog serves a fire hydrant
    …passing through America like shards of glass through the bowels of a hemophiliac
    …public’s affection for Congress is hovering just below “genital herpes”
    …the way Nancy Pelosi anticipates “double coupon day” at the Nip/Tuck clinic

    Doug – you’re killing me here…

  76. #76
    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:57 am, swmntman said:

    …Hoyer hinted that Republicans should do more to condemn these threats of violence…

    To which the Republican leadership should retort, “so deemed”.

  77. #77
    On March 25th, 2010 at 11:03 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI B-CAT–#54. I spent a year–1969–in Boston. I had the WSMR, NM, military post entrance stickers on the front and rear bumpers–and a Texas plate on my car. This was a bad combination then–anti-war vandals were trashing lots of defense related cars.
    ***
    The solution was simple–I put “save the whales” or PETA stickers over the post decals–with aluminum foil over the tags. It worked well–the car never had any problems.
    ***
    And in Paris, France–cars without Islamic stickers on the windows get burned–hundreds of them on some weekends. Who says a photo of Osama Bin Ladin isn’t good for anything? It may protect your Benz.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  78. #78
    On March 25th, 2010 at 11:07 am, rightisright said:

    I haven’t seen a Republican come back to these false accusations by the dems, so where is it? This a lame, lyin’, leftist tactic to blame the right for anything that goes wrong. My God are people so ignorant as to believe these liars, over and over again? It follows their shallow one tone whine of “your racist”. Anyone call me a racist their are partly right, because i am sick and tired of the whiny a$$ libs always crying and using that bs. I not the one that pissed in their Wheaties…they do it to themselves.

  79. #79
    On March 25th, 2010 at 11:12 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    This “Republicans are aiding and abetting terrorism against Democrats” charge by Sen. Clyburn is a blatant attempt to isolate us Tea Party people politically and label us terrorists. Will the Republicans bite? After all, they don’t like us either.

    You can see where this is going. They will then try intimidation to thin out our ranks before taking harsher measures in the name of “public safety”. Quite a country we live in today.

  80. #80
    On March 25th, 2010 at 11:12 am, dcbprime said:

    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:57 am, swmntman said:

    To which the Republican leadership should retort, “so deemed”.

    Awesome.

  81. #81
    On March 25th, 2010 at 11:28 am, DBNinKY said:

    But this just doesn’t sound right to me. First, they whine about “possible” violence, and they are “frightened” (a la Pelosi and her crocidile tears). That was the “set-up”. Then they make up the racial taunts that no one heard except the tauntees. This is totally typical of liberal tricks.

    You may be on to something. This reads like a page from the same ol’ play-book they’ve been using on pro-life groups since the early days of Op Rescue.

  82. #82
    On March 25th, 2010 at 11:43 am, spaceycakes said:

    “Give them nothing. But take from them everything.”–Leonidas

  83. #83
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:11 pm, Uplander said:

    The problem is that this just opens the possibility of a ‘Told ya so’ when the Progressives stage violence which they can then blame on anyone they want with the complicity of the willing State Run Media.

  84. #84
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:14 pm, dan708 said:

    Hoyer hinted that Republicans should do more to condemn these threats of violence.

    Sure, I’ll get right on that – as soon as more “moderate” Muslims condemn threats of violence from extremists.

  85. #85
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:15 pm, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    Wrote a letter to Boehner today suggesting that he stop apologizing and start supporting honest, decent Americans. An apology tour isn’t going to cut it, and, to me knowledge, the socialists have never apologized for the behavior of their mindless thugs.

    I note the flash mobs in Philly. Sure looks like the next generation of entitlement babies are doing what comes naturally. And, of course, the response by the liberals in charge are that we need more after school programs. How about some real head cracking. Oops, I forgot that this will result in a lawsuit against the city – better to have civil unrest than civility.

  86. #86
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:20 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah, the coffin on the representative’s lawn was part of a Democratic Stimulus “Shovel Ready” Project.

  87. #87
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:43 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    Show me the evidence….why isn’t there any evidence? This whole accusation by Steny (who the hell votes for a guy named Steny?) is crap. Dems know it, but the general public will buy whatever they’re sellin’ on TV news.

  88. #88
    On March 25th, 2010 at 12:46 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Later, I’ll tell you how I really feel about him!

    TigerLady: that family is a millstone around Missourians’ necks.

  89. #89
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:15 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Peaceable assembly now equals terrorism to this elected representative. Clyburn, quit acting like the kid in The Sixth SenseI see angry white people. You’re trying to instigate hostilities by painting the other side as hostile. You’re deliberately talking smack in order to escalate the fight, and you know it.

    By the way, mainstream media, you’ve got people believing this garbage, and now I see that you and your DC cohorts have influenced citizens with your false accusations to threaten Republican politicians. Irresponsible to the utmost degree.

  90. #90
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:18 pm, Wayfaring Stranger said:

    On March 25th, 2010 at 10:31 am, spaceycakes said:

    Let this be the hour when we draw swords together…

    ‘Out of doubt, out of dark to the day’s rising
    I came singing in the sun…’
    :-D

  91. #91
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:28 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Oops, I guess my previous comment should have been posted on the other thread. Oh, well. Similar topic, at least.

  92. #92
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:30 pm, Wayfaring Stranger said:

    I’ve been listening to reports on the radio and checking out some online, and to date the ‘threats’ made to Stupak are, at worst, angry venting, no worse than what Wanda Sykes (sp?) made about Rush. Not that it makes it right, but come on libs; are you that timid?

    Secondly, Eric Cantor actually had a bullet shot through a window at his campaign office on Monday (it’s posted at Fox News – sorry for not having the link).

    I’ve also heard that the Dem who said he was spat at has now backtracked and stated that the person in question was merely shouting at him and that some of his spittle hit him (as in ‘say it, don’t spray it’).

    And the list goes on. Someone else already posted about the casket incident that wasn’t what the Dems made it out to be.

  93. #93
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:53 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I said it on another thread – EVERYTHING they say is a lie or enough truth to sell the lie. EVERYTHING.

  94. #94
    On March 25th, 2010 at 1:59 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    BTW, Glen Back had an interesting article about the radicals running this country. SDS, Weathermen, Obama and his “spiritual adviser” – all creeps and REVOLUTIONARIES. Normal people in this country have never given a thought to otherthrowing this country – but these people have spent their entire lives thinking of it, planning it, and now executing it. They are in power and they are doing it. You simply must get your head around the fact that these are not normal Dems differing from Repubs in this or that policy. They are REVOLUTIONARIES intent on turning this place into their fascist/Marxist paradise.

  95. #95
    On March 25th, 2010 at 2:03 pm, TigerLady said:

    spaceycakes said:
    Later, I’ll tell you how I really feel about him!
    TigerLady: that family is a millstone around Missourians’ necks.

    You are so right. I’ve been in the presence of the little weasel and I’d like to slap him, something his momma apparently didn’t do enough. I’ll be working hard to help him fail for his re-election bid. And thankfully, I’m not alone. He’s ticked off the wrong people (McArthur’s bakery, etc.) and we might have a chance to get rid him. And let’s not even begin talking about his sister…I might lose my lunch.

  96. #96
    On March 25th, 2010 at 2:13 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    Wayfaring Stranger said: “no worse than what Wanda Sykes (sp?) made about Rush.”

    Hey Wayfaring Stranger, libs have very, very selective memory. Think back to what we saw aimed at Bush during anti-war protests. Oh those wacky, mostly student libs and their anti-war protests. It is like they all suddenly died out since Bush left office. Why, I guess the war must have ended without my knowing about it. Do you folks miss them as much as I? LOL.

    But back to the point of my comment. I won’t say it is true in every case, but I do not doubt for a minute that some of these incidents are manufactured. They certainly have been in the past. While it appears a coffin was indeed left on Carnahan’s doorstep.I could see a coffin left on a politicians doorstep as a statement on their political future and not a death threat. During the previously mentioned anti-war protests, coffins were a street theater staple. To be honest, considering how teed off the people who actually work and pay for all this crap have become, liberals should be amazed at the restraint that is being shown.

  97. #97
    On March 25th, 2010 at 2:15 pm, rambler said:

    The dems wanted this bill to pass. They used every arm twist and gun to the head tactic to get it passed. The next thing for them was to play the victim card. It’s is high time that they “walked the walk”. I’m tired of the “talking the talk”. It has become empty dribble. They can’t have it all ways.

  98. #98
    On March 25th, 2010 at 2:21 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Threats and alleged threats are one thing– BULLETS ARE SOMETHING ELSE.

    Rep Eric Cantor’s campaign office was shot at.

  99. #99
    On March 25th, 2010 at 2:38 pm, iamsaved said:

    McArthur’s bakery

    They make good Gooey Butter Cake and know exactly what Carnahan stands for.

    Just because his dad won an election against John Ashcroft after getting killed in an airplane crash, the rest of the family feel they are entitled to sit on the thrones of Missouri politics.

    MORE, formerly known as ACORN, has helped them alot too in obtaining “suspect” votes from the major metropolitan areas.

  100. #100
    On March 25th, 2010 at 2:46 pm, TigerLady said:

    iamsaved said:

    They are definitely a business to support. Everything is good there. I admire the owner for standing up to the little Carnahan weasel. I think he’s so arrogant that he doesn’t realize that he may be on his way out.

    I was outraged when Mel was re-elected after he died. Shows you how stupid people are. It’s time to dethrone them. They’ve made millions in politics so it shouldn’t hurt them much.

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