McLame: All for his own maaaaaaverick-iness before he was against it

John McCain, proud liberal media-anointed maaaaaaaverick Republican, October 14, 2008:
MCCAIN: It’s well-known that I have not been elected Miss Congeniality in the United States Senate nor with the administration. I have opposed the president on spending, on climate change, on torture of prisoner, on – on Guantanamo Bay. On a — on the way that the Iraq War was conducted. I have a long record and the American people know me very well and that is independent and a maverick of the Senate and I’m happy to say that I’ve got a partner that’s a good maverick along with me now.
John McCain, endangered established Republican incumbent, attempting desperately to shed the moniker he (and running mate Sarah “Send the maaaverick back to the United States Senate” Palin) embraced over and over and over again, Newsweek, April 3, 2010:
“Maverick” is a mantle McCain no longer claims; in fact, he now denies he ever was one. “I never considered myself a maverick,” he told me. “I consider myself a person who serves the people of Arizona to the best of his abilities.”
Can we get a little Joe “You lie!” Wilson up in here?
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Don’t let up Michelle. Send the RINOs home quick, if not quicker than the Ds. Keep your Dyson’s handy and your eyes on November folks.
What I remember most about the campaign was how often the pundits admitted that McCain and Obama held essentialy the same postion on an issue.
Sarah has taken loyalty way too far. She will probably help McCain get reelecting, which is the worst thing possible for America. More appropriate loyalty would have been choosing to not campaign against him.
To my way of thinking, she has chosen to fall on her sword by supporting McCain.
I agree with Michelle, John McCain is the problem!
Why do politicians who seem to have principles and actually live by them (such as Sarah Palin) always seem to ditch their principles to support other politicians who have demonstrated a complete lack of principles?
Problem is, they seem to spend it sending me more campaign literature trying to get me to send them more money. Seems a waste somehow.
Wow! I thought Tom Cruise ruined the name Maverick.
Hey, Sarah! You decided to go all mavericky on your base. How’s that working out for you?
The blood from the death of the Constitution will be on Sarah Palin’s hands.
Duh!
Its clear to everyone but a die-hard Palinista that Sarah Palin deliberately has kept supporters and potential supporters in doubt about about her true ambition, which was to milk her ‘star power’ after 2008 with her appearances and a book while providing zero actual leadership useful for the conservative base she claims to support.
Why all this talk about whether McCain is or isn’t a maverick? I’ll continue to call him what he is: Democrat.
McShame got a healthy dose of boos today when they put him on the jumbotron at the D-Backs game.
Please Please PLEASE if you are an Arizona voter send this DIABLO packing. He is past his expiration date.
Sarah, maverick?
She’s a card carrying RNC, RINO-Toting, bit-in-the-mouth, yessa-boss, back stabber of true conservatism.
RINO McCain and his yessa-boss have got to go!!
This is a very good question-especially in the present time.
we are all counting on you Arizonans to put this jackass amnesty freak out on the street where he belongs, not making decisions about how to ruin the country with our money.
this will be a bad year for Juan McVain. he chose to insult us and hug La Raza, now we get to choose.
oh and her support of McVain means Palin will NEVER get my vote or support for anything. no second chances any more for the amnesty enablers. I’ve had it.
There’s a time for everything and now is the right time for John McCain to retire.
I understand Gov. Palin’s reasons in campaigning for the Senator who chose her to run with him and at the same time more importantly, the stakes this country faces are of no higher place in history.
Sarah, is your loyalty to John McCain or is your loyalty to the United States of America?
The two are not conjoined, nor can they be.
wabbit season
duck season
wabbit season
duck season
RINO SEASON.
Time to bring them down once and for all
McCain raised her up. He is now causing her to fall.
For God’s sake, retire, McCain!
The humane thing to do would be to put this Maverick out to pasture in the coming election. We should stamp out progessivism as soon as possible.
Why does Palin want to commit political suicide by supporting this RINO? I really thought she was the real deal, but if she has the capacity to back somebody like McCain and his ideals then she’s nothing I would ever vote for.
There’s just one conservative road map, the map our founders indicated for us, the only map that’s true and works, the only map that can work, there’s no such thing as radical conservatism because the American principles are written in stone for all to read and understand, our Founding documents represent the stop, we go no further.
Collectivism however has no principles, no way to stop the insanity, no brake pedal, along with its co-oped term liberalism, is all radical.
Most liberals aren’t evil (regardless of their party) but the collectivism that infects them, is.
If the people of AZ send John McCain back to the Senate they forgo ANY RIGHT to holler about anything. They like the people of SC who KNOWING FULL WELL what Graham was like sent him back anyway to WREAK HAVOC on our Constitution will have voted away their BEST CHANCE to send real change to DC!
1) AMNESTY
2) CAP & TAX
Those are the ONLY two things they need to remember in his state because those are the TWO things that will finish off any FREEDOM we have left!
“McCain-Kennedy Comprehensive Immigration Reform” – a phrase that will live in infamy.
I will NEVER forget that the Z visa waiting period was changed from 2006′s 90 calendar days to 2007′s ONE BUSINESS DAY! How many FBI agents and DHS health inspectors would have been required to handle that land rush – 20 million??
A pox on you, McCain! You flipped America the bird when YOUR bill tried to give 12 to 20 million illegal aliens (foreign invaders) overnight permanent residency in 2007.
I flip you the bird, McCain!
Sarah, I hardly know ya’.
I’ve sent money to JD. I encourage y’all to do the same.
It’s funny how the usual suspects always seem to come back down to earth during election years. Arizona should keep him permanently grounded this time.
I like that! Accurate and to the point.
On Palin, I have to say she is dropping like a sack of potatoes in my opinion. If she really believes John McCain is the best choice for the Republican nomination she is not someone I want around.
Ah-if only. Not only is the Senator suddenly Conservative “all over again” he is tough on border enforcement. That man has no shame, no honor. The local and national Chamber of Commerce has endorsed the RINO. There are times I feel as if I am stuck in the Twilight Zone.
McAmnesty, reduced to lies …
Only John McCain would confer with LaRaza and Illegal invaders rather than Americans when contemplating opening the country up to third world status.
Throw the friggin’ BUM OUT!
I can’t believe the people of AZ could send McCain back to the Senate. They have an opportunity to send J.D. to the Senate and stop the go along get along bipartisan compromising crap. I only wish we had that opportunity in this state.
I’m afrraid Sarah is another pretty face in politics who’s good at Populist rhetoric and can fire the up the masses.
She probably has some conservative credentials but not enough and the right ones.
I drank the Sarah koolaid for a while.
She is dangerous because she has a large following that will blindly follow her.
I wouldn’t use the words “dangerous” and “blindly follow” when talking about Sara Palin. Sounds like the words the liberal statists are using to describe the tea party movement.
I am relieved she is not seriously in contention for ’12. She is conservative, (despite her payback to McRino) but far too polarizing. Reagan proved the right personality can make solid conservatism popular with the independents. Palin would never be able to do that.
Eh, maybe not. She is more of an asset than a hinderance, and is solidly onboard getting the GOP back to genuine conservatism. I don’t see how she is dangerous.
As much as I agree with those here who disparagingly laugh at McCain’s
“I am not now or ever have been a maverick” nonsense,
I am disappointed that there are so many here who in effect “equate”
McCain’s decades-long RINO-voting record
with
Palin’s single decision to support McCain.
It ain’t the 2012 primaries yet, folks.
What I do not get is why Palin feels she has any loyalty to McCain. As others has said, if she were the real deal she claims she is she would support America not a has been wishy washy Senator. Secondly, if I recall the McCain camp did not show Palin a whole lot of “loyalty” when it became obvious that the campaign was floundering. I recall the McCain people claiming it all was Palin’s fault that their polling numbers were down and McCain was failing. So Sarah how did that bit of loyalty work out for ya?
No fool like an old fool!
Hey John, if you won’t walk into the mountains and lie down in the snow for a nice long rest, at least retire from the Senate. Thanks in advance.
Wow! I am surprised by the vitriol aimed at Palin. I am very disappointed she is campaigning for McCain. But, the fact that she feels some (misguided) loyalty toward McCain even after McCain’s staff treated her so badly during and after the 2008 campaign makes me a little more sympathetic toward her.
Don’t get me wrong. Her loyalty is ultimately misguided but I understand her actions even if I disagree and disapprove of her campaigning for McCain. And supporting McCain doesn’t make her the devil.
It is going to get very lonely in the movement if we pitch everyone under the bus the first time they disappoint us. McCain certainly needs to get off the bus but every stumble or bad decision need not result in excommunication…
Another example of GOP stupidity.
“Let’s make a sacrifial lamb of one of our hottest rising stars to prop up one of our least popular and least conservative candidates. You know the one that’s always reaching across the aisle to make deals with the communists and the social pariahs. The one who makes bad law that we can never get rid of. Let’s sacrifice our party’s future for the sake of some old guy who never supported our platform anyway. Yeah, that’s the ticket!”
On April 6th, 2010 at 9:24 am, WarEagle82 said:
I agree with your statement that she has a misguided loyalty. It doesn’t make her the devil, but it makes me wonder about her senses. I cannot support McCain for anything after his amnesty fiasco. He has changed his story so many times, it is hard to keep up with where he really stands on any issue.
I’m with WarEagle on this one. I’m not ready to throw Sarah Palin into the wood chipper quite yet. I would distance myself from McCain if I were her, though.
VERY VERY VERY well said War Eagle.
One of my greatest fears is exactly what you have expressed so very well. In attempting to attain the unattainable we will ensure more years of Democrat rule.
Let’s fight for our candidates in the primaries, but that’s over, if all I have is a choice between Olympia Snowe and Bart Stupak, it’s an easy choice.
Beware of the politician who talks at you and not with you.
What words would you use?
Go to the TeamSarah site and tell them that she is wrong.
Liberal Statist words, huh?
Swede, you said:
I don’t believe there is any inherent good in a Republican because of that initial.
I said she has some conservative credentials, but, even McLame has shown flashes of conservatism.
She’s pro-amnesty. Maybe not quite as avid as Johnny but still there.
Some other “conservatives” she’s supported are Rick Perry and Scott Brown.
I never thought Sarah was a brainiac and her support of McLame proves it.
So who are you going to believe, me then, or me now?
Different day, different say, the politic way. McCain, thank you for your service. Go home now.
McClaim must go! Sarah, maybe, maybe not. Too early to tell with her. Steele & the Newty have to go now or the GOP will fall on really dificult times. Guess all I’m saying is; There are people that must leave now, versus some that need a little more time for evaluation.
I was far more upset that she met with Lieberman and his ilk before she met with the GOP leaders when McCain tapped her than I am about her stumping for John McCain.
It has to be one of two things – she’s either dancing with the one that brung her, or he’s got something to blackmail her with. John McCain is a very powerful man, and he’s literally stripped politicians who wouldn’t go along of their futures, sometimes with nothing more than well placed lies.
Remember when McCain said, “OK, we’ll build your damn fence” ?
WarEagle,
I agree that we must be wary of devouring ourselves with excessive scrutiny of each other and excessive zeal to drive out the impure.
OTOH, campaigning with McLame is not Palin’s first offense, although it is blatant and in our faces. The fact is that she has always dodged opportunities to distance herself from McCain on immigration. For me, that is a deal-breaker.
I could overlook a certain amount of misguided loyalty toward McCain if it was only personal and not political. But when she emphasized in the campaign how she and McCain were a team of mavericks, I think she meant it. She is a person of basically conservative instincts who — like McCain — operates by the seat of her pants. She does not think deeply and is not really ideological. Such people can not be trusted. The ideas of liberalism are ~always~ pitched as humanitarian causes and sound good at a certain level. To reach the right conclusions, a person must have a historical and ideological perspective. Following one’s mavericky instincts will not get it done.
Palin has had plenty of time to think this over and has chosen to go mavericky on her conservative base. If she does not understand the contempt that we have for McCain or the reasons for it, she truly is clueless and not suitable for any office other than a half term as Alaska governor.
She defiantly aligns herself with McShame/Graham. Screw her.
Being an Az Voter, I do not support John McCain, nor do a lot of other Azians for his stand on illegal immegaration. But then, look at the choice…JDH carries a lot of political baggage also. Wish I had a candidate I could vote FOR. It is time for the Tea Party goers to put a good candidate out there.
After Carter, Reagan was waiting in the wings to drag the nation back towards conservatism. After Obama, there just isn’t much conservatism available on the national political stage.
McCain’s already polled me twice in the past 4 or 5 months, which I emphatically stated I would not vote for him. He’s been running ads since January at least, so I suspect his internal polling sucks, despite other polls with him well ahead of Hayworth. I wish he’d just retire, but that’s probably not going to happen.
I appreciate Palin, but her campaigning for McCain means diddly squat to me–nobody’s endorsement gets him or her anything from me. And I’m not all that enthused about Hayworth, either. I’m still considering Deakin in the primary, unless it’s too close between Hayworth and McCain…McCain MUST lose the primary on Aug 24.
Personally I think Sarah Palin cannot stand McCain’s politics. But if she came out heavy against him now, it would make her and the Repub party look like opportunistic fools (what we believe about the dems), and would have a net effect of hurting the Repub party and our chances in 2010. The corrupt media would pillory her for running for VP with a Presidential candidate that she did not agree with philosophically. Is this what we really want? Be careful what you wish for.
If John were a leader or a maverick we wouldn’t be in this mess today. When Romney backed out, he took our primary vote with him. Who can forget he suspended his campaign to sign the first highway rape and robbery bill of the American taxpayer? Have the decency to retire John. As for our neighbors in SC, what were you thinking re Gramnesty?
Grandson Marine Sgt. on way to Afghanistan. Please keep the troops in prayer.
First, thanks to McCain for his service to our country as a naval aviator. He sacrificed and suffered more than most and I honor him for that.
But as a politician he’s done more harm than good. His time is up! Time to go away. I’m not an Arizona voter but I’ll be contributing to JD – our country needs CONSERVATIVE leaders now, not self-serving flip-flopping RINOs who are ever eager to impose more and more government on us and to subvert the Constitution.
I don’t know how Arizona’s primary is run, but I can bet there will be a hell of a lot of liberals crossing to vote for this rino in the primary. Does the Democrat primary have multiple candidates who might draw the lib crossover to actually vote for their guy? I suspect there will be caravans of out of state libs heading to phoenix to vote in August also for the democrats favorite republican.
Can you show examples to back this up?
He’s a maverick and she’s a rogue.
Two peas in a pod.
I will concede she may be more conservative than he.
In the beginning, she was a breath of fresh air and an outsider.
She has become a politician
You answered your own question. I believe she is a FAR more conservative than he is, and thus, like any conservative, would find McCain’s politics disturbing, to say the least.
Palin hooked her cart to McCain and should be outright rejected by true conservatives.
sbw999,
I agree that it’s too late for Palin to change her mind now.
McCain brought her to the national stage by tapping her for VP. For that, she owes him some loyalty.
However, his campaign used her as a scapegoat when things weren’t going well during the election. Instead of supporting her, John McCain stood by and did nothing. That’s a lack of loyalty on his part.
According to conservative principles, John McCain is more leftist than conservative and does not deserve support from an actual conservative.
By going all out in her support for John McCain, Sarah Palin has demonstrated that loyalty is more important than conservative principles. Given Washington’s “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch your back” atmosphere, that’s a recipe for exactly the kind of garbage that got us into this mess. What we need are statesmen who don’t keep supporting their “good friend” who just stabbed them in the back, and who are willing to stand up even to their real friends when principles are on the line.
The best thing Sarah could have done would have been to put loyalty in it’s proper relationship with conservative principles. Those principles say that she should have campaigned hard against McCain. On the other hand, she does owe him some loyalty for giving her a platform. Therefore, I think her most honorable position would have been to stay out of that race entirely.
Instead, she has chosen to demonstrate that when push comes to shove, principles are expendable. As it is, she has made her bed, and now she has to sleep in it.
True Conservative? When do we all take the purity test? Do you get a special tatoo or learn a secret handshake so you can identify one another?
I understand your point. But if it a choice between bending her principles a bit to support McCain, versus giving the corrupt media yet another chance to rip her, and Republicans/conservatives in general, to the detriment of this most important upcoming election, I’ll take the former. The 2010 election will decide the future of this Country IMHO. We must take back the Congress or we will be a European style socialist democracy in a few short years.
I believe Palin would have been better served by not jumping in to AZ politics and backing McCain. He did nothing when his campaign staff attacked her during and after the campaign. I don’t think she owes him what she is giving him but she evidently does…
I am disappointed that she is stumping for McCain. I will be very interested in what she does after the campaign if JD Hayworth wins. If she assiduously avoids nasty attacks against JD Hayworth during the primary and vigorously campaigns for him in a general election many of my concerns will be satisfied. Otherwise, my concerns remain and intensify.
But to answer Flyoverman, I wouldn’t agree with his statement. If my choice comes down to Snowe or Stupak I am voting 3rd party. I HAVE HAD IT! I AM NOT VOTING FOR RINOS!
Perspective is needed here. Sarah Palin being drummed out of the conservative movement for campaigning for McCain? Don’t the voters who ever voted for him bear some responsibility? Should we kick them out of the movement? Remember, it wasn’t just AZ that voted for him the last time he ran.
Face it, the media already twists or makes stuff up. They’ll do that whether a conservative does the right thing or not. Therefore, there’s nothing lost in doing the right thing. The only loss is when politicians give in to the media and damage this country just to be “liked” by the media.
The cut-your-nose-off-to-spite-your-face circular firing squad helps no one but Obama. There are many things I don’t like about McCain and I think the fewer incumbents that return after the November elections, the better.
But throwing Palin under the bus for this is ridiculous. Please keep waiting around for the perfect conservative leader because you will never find him/her.
Exactly!
Nobody would be criticizing Palin today if she herself had not decided to jump into an intraparty primary battle.
She could have made some respectful nod toward McCain without joining him at the political hip.
When you make a big show of your support for John McCain, you are slapping the conservative base in the face. Sarah Palin is not the victim of a maverick hunt; she stood up in true maverick fashion and poked her finger into her supporters’ eye. To heck with her.
I’ve always liked Sarah and, IMO, she has strong conservative principles. That is why I wish she had just given a perfunctory nod to McCain and stayed away from that race. On the one hand, I get the feeling that McCain must be in trouble if he had to bring in “the big guns” to get people to show up at his rallys. On the other hand, maybe there is some “payback” required from Sarah since she can thank that VP campaign for vaulting her to where she is today. I am watching this and reserving my criticisms until I see more from her. I’d like to see ALL democrat incumbents gone and 3/4 of the Republicans. Let’s start over.
I do take issue with Palin campaigning for McCain for two reasons. One she has said that she is not part of the establishment; yet then she campaigns for part of the establishment she says she dislikes and that she is doing it out of loyalty even though the McCain people treated her like crap and McCain never steped up to defend her.
Secondly, I do not like the fact that McCain and Company feel like they can call in Sarah to try to snow job the masses into believeing that McCain is now Conservative. It is like he really thinks that we are all just a bunch of mindless sheep.
Fortunately, Snowe and Stupak are in different states, so this is really a non-choice. If Snowe is re-elected trust her to do an Arlen Spector ‘conversion’ or to become the new ‘Maaavrick’ with the help of the Bonehead from Alaska;there would be no point to re-elect Snowe other than to reward her with more of the goodies of office that she doesn’t deserve. Yes, dear voter, come out of your spell and throw her-and them-under the bus.
Had Palin stayed on the edge and given a perfunctory nod it would have been okay with me. But she obviously feels like she owe McCain more than we feel she owes him. Putting her “boots on the ground” in AZ disappoints me, and every event she attends disappoints me more.
I haven’t heard her make any personal attacks against JD Hayworth but I haven’t been hanging on her every word either. Negative attacks on Hayworth from her would give me reason to rethink my interest in her claims to be a non-establishment “true conservative.”
But Sarah is a big girl and gets to make her own decisions. But I do wonder who is advising her on these decisions lately. I just hope she realizes the blow-back she is setting herself up for…
Wow! This really makes me NOT want to vote Republican in the Fall:
http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/coburn-fox-healthcare-pelosi/2010/04/06/id/354932
This is unbelieveable by Sen. Tom Coburn.
Wow! I agree that just because someone disagrees with me doesn’t make them a bad person. But somebody cannot believe the things Pelosi believes and do the things Pelosi does and be a “good person.” That’s where I part company with Coburn.
Evidently 6 years in Washington, DC is too long for any elected official…
I liked Sarah Palin when she was tapped to be McCain’s running mate, but as time has gone on, and especially since the election, she looks worse and worse. Has she lost her marbles? Yeesh!
McCain is RINO trash; I hope he gets thrown out. And Palin, I’m not sure I’d ever support her again.
Well said Ignatius, you seem to always say what I’m thinking, ty.
I’ve been thinking and wondering about Sara since ’08 election, when she came out in support of McShame I knew I was through with her. There is a reason for her loyalty beyond the obvious, she thinks like Juan, she is not a conservative if she supports amnesty of any type. What are her views on cap and tax, she is campaigning for McShame and he’s all for it with buddy Lesly Gramnesty or is Juan hiding on that issue until the election is over?
If you live by the sword, you will die by it.
Say good night, McCain.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
rightisright…I thank you for your kind words. (I pilfer most of my best ideas from smart posters who carelessly neglect to wear their tinfoil hats while they are collecting their thoughts. ~grin~)
because they’re very good at putting on the rouse that they have the principles. They get you thinking they have them, then they try and use your respect for the principles they convinced you they have in order to get you to vote for people who are having trouble convincing you they have them – in fact, neither does. Sadly, this is almost every politician out there.
We patriots truly have our work cut out for us.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
What is causing her fall is her own bad judgment in supporting him.
You can’t blame McCain for that, no matter how much of a dirtbag he is.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
After pondering why I find myself in a quandary about my feelings for Mrs. Palin it dawned on me, I don’t trust her on what her stance will be on the critical issues facing America in the nearest of times.
I find that hard to believe, but there it is…I don’t see how that could have been taken out of context either. “she is a nice lady”? yeah, like a snake in a hen house with batch of freshly hatched baby chicks.
And why would he deride Fox News? Gotta be more to the story…I hope.
rightisright is right! Sarah is showing bad judgment by supporting McCain. His record is mixed at best. He isn’t the most leftist GOP senator by any measures. But when he goes “maverick” it is on world-changing issues like amnesty, open borders, cap-n-tax, free speech and TARP!
I could forgive McCain if he only rejected a tax cut now and then. We can always reasonably debate marginal tax rates.
But fundamentally dismantling America and the Constitution is quite a different matter. Giving away the country and my liberty to Marxists matters!
McCain just doesn’t get it. I wish him a long, healthy and happy retirement starting on primary election night this summer!
“….except that rancher, what’s-his-name.”
How well have you served Robert Krentz McAmnesty?
Don’t like the maverick title? How about lying, craven political hack? I think its more fitting.
I agree to some extent. I would have to say she is showing considerable class campaigning for McCain given the crap his own staff was feeding to the media to excuse their own (and McCains) lousy performance….and McCain doing little to nothing to shut them up.
…along with the crap the media was doing with her AND her family.
I will withhold judgment of her actions at this time, no matter how disgusted I have been over McCain. I’m afraid though unless she really turned the screws on McCain about that stuff, she will look naive for supporting him again if he loses…and the same campaign insider attacks happen again.
You are right on that.
For those in the Tea Party or with similar views, consider this. There have been conservative candidates that have won since Owebowma was immaculated, as have moderate RINO’s.
If the ‘Crats lose the two upcoming special elections in Pennsylvania and Hawaii where the ‘Crats haven’t had to spend money in years, and McCain loses his primary, imagine how scared the left will be of the Tea Party then?
I disagree. I don’t think she had much choice over supporting McCain. She campaigned for others before him, and truly would have been ripped to shreds by the media had she not campaigned for him.
I hate good ‘ol party politics, but she would still need them if she expects to maintain any political viability.
McCain is a RINO, but there are many like him still running the party.