Oklahoma City, Waco, and crisis exploitation
Today marks the 15th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. The Oklahoma City National Memorial is here. 168 of our fellow Americans died in this evil act of terrorism. Take a moment to learn about their lives here.
Today is also the 17th anniversary of the deadly siege at Waco. After a 51-day standoff with the feds, 76 Americans (including 17 children) perished. It, too, was a shameful act of violence.
But one anniversary will get more attention the other today because the establishment Left isn’t interested in sober reflection. And Bill Clinton certainly isn’t interested in taking responsibility for horrors under his watch that do not fit the conservatives=violent extremists narrative:
“What we learned from Oklahoma City is not that we should gag each other or that we should reduce our passion for the positions we hold – but that the words we use really do matter, because there’s this vast echo chamber, and they go across space and they fall on the serious and the delirious alike. They fall on the connected and the unhinged alike,” he said.
“One of the things that the conservatives have always brought to the table in America is a reminder that no law can replace personal responsibility. And the more power you have and the more influence you have, the more responsibility you have.” Clinton made the remarks at events sponsored by the Center for American Progress Action Fund on the upcoming anniversary of the bombing.
…Clinton argued that the Boston Tea Party was in response to taxation without representation. The current protesters, he said, are challenging taxation by elected officials, and the demonstrators have the power to vote them out of office.
“By all means keep fighting, by all means, keep arguing,” he said. “But remember, words have consequences as much as actions do, and what we advocate, commensurate with our position and responsibility, we have to take responsibility for. We owe that to Oklahoma City.”
What does he owe the victims of Waco who died as a result of gross FBI incompetence, negligence, and zeal?
Flashback: “The Fire Last Time,” Jacob Sullum, Reason Magazine, 1998, review of Waco: The Rules of Engagement, directed by William Gazecki, Fifth Estate Productions and No More Wacos: What’s Wrong with Federal Law Enforcement and How to Fix It, by David B. Kopel and Paul H. Blackman…
As Kopel and Blackman show, the investigation of the Branch Davidians by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, the BATF’s February 1993 raid on Mount Carmel, the 51-day FBI siege, the April 19 assault that led to the final fire, the trial of the survivors, and the subsequent explanations can all be understood in terms of prevalent prejudices and familiar failings. Hostility toward private gun ownership and unconventional religions played an important role in the government’s actions against the Davidians and in the public’s indifference to their fate. Another conspicuous factor was the tendency for overconfident people to screw up, dodge responsibility afterward, and rationalize their behavior as justified by some greater good. As scary as it is to contemplate, it’s doubtful that anyone involved in this shameful episode felt in his heart that he was doing wrong.
At the same time, to blame the deaths of 86 men, women, and children (including four BATF agents) on a series of errors does not do justice to the government’s conduct at Waco, which rose at least to the level of negligent homicide, or to the cowardly cover-up that followed. And to blame the dead themselves is audacious, since all would be alive today but for the government’s gratuitous use of force…
Today in Washington, gun owners will march in defense of Second Amendment rights.
Predictably, left-wing groups are taking their cue from Clinton and using the event to smear Tea Party activists, the NRA, and limited-government advocates all as potential OKC bombers.
In the Left’s playbook of Rahm Emanuel-esque political crisis exploitation, the Timothy McVeigh card has no credit limit.
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When are they going to investigate the Muslim connection to Tim Mcveigh. He didn’t figure out the bomb making all by hisself.
You can tell he’s being smart because he put his glasses on.
I bet he doesn’t wear those glasses when he’s hitting on college girls on his travels around the world.
The intellectual dishonesty of the left. Devoid of any truth whatsoever. Do you think they know they are lying?
They can not claim to represent us when they don’t listen to the overwhelming voice of the majority to stop, when they don’t even read the bills they pass into law. As for voting them out, it can’t come quick enough.
President Clinton, how were the Branch Davidians represented?
He says the glasses make him feel smarter when he goes “Commando”!
Pulitzer Parker doing her part yesterday.
there!
The Battle of Lexington and Concord occurred at the beginning of the American Revolution – April 19th -1775.
President Clinton, how was the family at Ruby Ridge represented?
I am yet to here anyone who can justify the intial assault on the Davadian compound in Waco, before there was any “standoff.”
The leader of the Davadians comes to town every day and meets with the local sheriff regularly. He could have been arrested at any time. Even so the ATF chose to conduct an armed, daylight assault with automatic weapons on compound KNOWING 31 children are inside.
Unless those children were in imminent danger of death, I know of no Rules of Engagement that would justify or authorize such an assault.
Whoever authorized that should still be in a Federal prison.
It wasn’t. It was about the Parliament interfering too much in colonial affairs. People knew that if they had representation, it would be a small minority in the Parliament. The tax on tea was very small; hardly worthwhile to fight over. The Bostonians were tired of British interference and control. They had, for years, been ruling themselves.
OKC – had absolutely nothing to do with this. Simply amazing how he uses such a tragedy to further his own agenda. It’s saaaaddd.
Words matter, but not during the period of 2000-2008. Then it was okay to say whatever unhinged thing you wanted.
You know Billy Jeff, we gotta tell you it’s dificult to take seriously someone who doesn’t know what the definition of is is. (Hint – the definition if is, is is.)
You is irrelevant. Next.
Clinton: “But remember, words have consequences as much as actions do, and what we advocate, commensurate with our position and responsibility, we have to take responsibility for.”
“A woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke!”
As an Okie, with an ex relative in the Murrah bombing, I was listening to our erstwhile governor give his address at the memorial. I was disgusted! I tried to e-mail him on his site the following:
Unfortunately, his site rejected the e-mail. I guess he can do anything he wants since he can’t run again.
Is this the same Billy Clinton that’s married to our illustrious Sectretary of State, Hillary Clinton? The two that speak so clearly for the citizens of this great country, that both feel our pain and cause that pain? My only other question is; Who cares what these two selfserving clowns think or say?
You all should check out Pamela Geller’s article on the muslim connection to the Oklahoma City bombing.
McVeigh Mania
On the contrary, left wing politics is all about the avoidance of responsibility. For example, Health Care…
Speaking of responsibility, who was responsible for Waco, you President Clinton or Janet Reno. Why is no one in jail?
…. and Elian Gonzalez is a happy young Komsomol with a bright new uniform, thanks to Janet and Bill.
I’m more worried about a American central government administered by Marxian Democrat statists than I am about right wing militias – by far. The power of the former is virtually unlimited and unopposable , the power of the latter is vitually non-existant.
Words matter…
I did not have sex with that woman Ms. Lowensky..
but obviously not in that case.
Flyover: I heard that a BIG supporter of Clintons from California had his estranged wife and kids in the compound, and was putting pressure on Bubba to get them out. The local police dep’t wasn’t finding problems so Bubba called in the ATF, FBI, and lastly the military to get these folks out of this compound.
I think what Bill is really saying here is..if ya’ll don’t stop this passionate discourse, we’re going to have to take you down like we did at Waco. Words have meaning so don’t blame us.
When Democrats are in charge, all of our nation’s considerable firepower is pointed inwards.
Apparently, many of the people at the Waco Massacre were foreign nationals, and several were people of color.
http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/firearms/enforce/waco/victims.html
Something else that the MSM didn’t exactly play up…
Are you aware of any reports that anyone in the Davidian compound was being held against their will? I know there was alleged child abuse that was found later to be unfounded.
I have not, but then I could have missed something.
Bill is in fullspin mode
I lost a cousin in the Murrah Building bombing … her body was the 168th one recovered … the last one they were able to find …
My oldest daughter still lives in OKC and she will represent the family by putting flowers on my cousins chair later today after she gets off work …
Bill Clinton has always been nothing more than another unhinged liberal that always deals in revisionist history …
WACO was under his watch … Janet Reno was the one that gave the approval to attack the compound … she also was responsible for the raid in Florida to take Elian Gonzales from his relatives in America and send him back to Cuba to be a propaganda puppet for Castro …
None of these things could have happened without Billy Boy’s approval … yet you would think they happened in another world …
Don’t forget that the first WTC bombing was also on his watch … as well as the bombing of the USS Cole … and the multiple US Embassy bombings in Africa …
Add to that the several times that there were armed nuts that killed people in places like the Brooklyn Bridge, the Empire State Building, the Atlanta Olympics Bombing, and the list goes on …
From IMAO:
Clinton can take credit for the economic boom of the 90s which was completely artifical based soley on cheap, unsecured available credit and everyone knew it could not be sustained.
My advice to you Billy Boy — Have another cigar and STFU and go away.
I have some friends in the FBI. They recognize that Waco and Ruby Ridge were really shameful incidents. There was no reason to turn any of these two events into a shooting war but the Clinton justice department had to have something to distract the American people and this was good for a while. Unfortunately, two nuts (and others who have never been found) took revenge in the Oklahoma City bombing. If a nation of law is to survive, it must hold its leaders accountable and its citizens must behave the law. Obama is trying to change this idea and we see a lot of this in the thuggery surrounding the tea parties.
Rogue Cheddar said:
Oklahoma Rep. Charles Key tried to do just that…. and got screwed.
And… we still have those 5 dancing Israelis on 9/11 no one wants to talk about.
Why?
Dispicable and desperate for attention is Bill Clinton.
Somebody should remind Slick Willie that the First Amendment gives us the Right to criticize the government, even when the democrats are in control. It seems that he has forgotten that his administrations botched handling of the Waco situation led to the Oklahoma City tragedy. Much, much easier to blame the Tea Party Rallies.
Uh, no.
As I recall, Janet Reno claimed responsibility – unless she was covering for some trigger happy ATF or FBI officers. Doesn’t seem in character for a Clinton anmin official though.
“Book her, Danno.”
I thought the Davidians were more than a bit odd, but even as a military officer, I was shocked that anyone would throw that much firepower at a compound full of children.
Change the date to 2010, change the location to an Afghan village, the ATF to the 10th Mountain Division, and compare what would be said in the media about the operation.
Holy John Murtha, Batman! Dick Durban would trample you trying to get to a microphone.
Whatever else we may say about “Sensible Shoes” Reno, she had more balls than Bill ever had. She was, and I suppose still is, a thug with a child-abuse kink.
Dittos, Flyover. I also was a bit mortified that they drove AFVs through buildings.
???? – do you mean utoh, or that I’m wrong…
McVeigh was caught about an hour afterward,
Speeding,
In a big, old sedan,
Without a license plate,
While carrying a pistol.
Can you say, Decoy?
He might as well have had a big, neon sign saying Arrest Me over his head.
I’ve often wondered that myself…are they so dishonest they don’t see and except the truth they encounter everyday?
I can’t wait to hear how Slick Willy puts the blame on the tea party for the genocide in Rwanda.
Is Clinton vying for the “worst ex-President” ever? Jimmy Carter is going to lose all recognition if that happens.
If you want to have a shrill ringing in your ears for the next couple of hours, recall, in your best Hillary Clinton voice, the following:
You’re not wrong. His “surplus” was a joke and a lie.
They must be desperate if they dust ol’ Bill off and bring him out to up their cause. The glasses do nothing to elevate him from the loser is was and is.
Rush just pointed out that because Clinton ignored the terrorists and we had 9/11.
Funny, we’ve accomplished something here – the Tea Party has taken the heat off Bush! Notice how the left is all about blaming someone…it’s always someone’s fault…itssooosad to live that way…
Actually, B-cat I was commenting on the first raid. I was not clear. But yes, the second raid was a also shock. In fact, given the first raid, how the second raid ocurred was one of those “WTH are they thinking moments.”
Unabomber was brought in under Reno’s watch … but even though FBI had been trying get him for years, it was a tip from the guy’s brother that broke the case. So they can’t really brag about that one, either.
sorry, he was and is.
I also don’t think txvet2 was disagreeing.
Was it ever difinitively determined whether the fire that consumed them was started by the Davidians themselves or the tear gas equipment? Or maybe they didn’t really want us to know.
Rush just ran down a list of terrorist activities that happened under Clinton’s reign. A good amount being domestic terrorism.
Based on what I saw over time, my opinion would be both. The Davidians definately set fires, but I also believe besides in pumped in CS, cannisters, which burn very hot were also used.
Inside and outside the compound, common sense was totally absent.
Waco – they cut off power and water, then attacked later because there were children living in unsanitary conditions.
Just my personal recollection.
Nice pic of Willy…I think when he makes that signal of fondling his own breasts it means he’s really serious. Is his nose getting longer?
Well, that depends on what is is, init?
Yep. The King of liars. What is the definition of Is? I forget.
Former Clintonian wisdom:
“I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re unpatriotic [racist]…”
Clinton should stick with something he does well – like chasing interns.
Are you defending conservatism, Mr. Clinton? Remember, conservatives want to maintain the status quo. Liberals want to change it. The people of Boston wanted to maintain what freedoms and liberties that they had, but were being reduced by British domination. Just like today, Mr. Clinton.
Yeah, like Kathleen Willey?
(sorry, can’t set link)
Yes it is. And thus the Second Amendment March (Peaceful and respectful we shall see) in DC and some state capitols. There is an excellent commentary in the Wall Street Journal today by Professor Breen of Northwestern University on the Battles of Concord and Lexington. Mr. Breen’s states April 19, 1775 was our first Independence Day; Englishmen met Englishmen at Concord Bridge and Lexington Common and by the end of the day the Americans were born.
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Major Pitcairn yelled DISPERSE YOU REBELS; DAMN YOU, THROW DOWN YOUR ARMS AND DISPERSE
No Major I do not believe we will, we don’t do that.
Paul Revere’s Ride
by
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
BillyBoy Clinton is less than a pimple on the rump compared with such great men as these.
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El Rushbo is on a roll-Miss Hillary’s consort does not impress him
Has anyone mentioned that Bill Clinton is still very, very, very despicable…
I would like to ask everyone to make an effort to correct a misrepresentation by almost every media type …
It is the Democrat Party … NOT the Democratic Party …
Sounds unimportant but try talking to almost any immigrant and they tend to migrate to that party because of the name … not because of their ideology …
Democrat Party = Democrat
Republican Party = Republican
THANKS !!!
Jayna Davis.com The Third Terrorist
Hey Clinton,
You know Jayna Davis? She is the OKC reporter that did some in depth investigations on the OKC bombing. It is a very definitive account of what happened there. The above is a link to her website. You should read her book, “The Third Terrorist”. I would recommend it to anyone wanting to know more about the OKC bombing. It will open your eyes. Clinton probably does not want you to know whats in there.
There are a lot of unanswered questions about Iraqis seen with McVeigh and Nichols in an OKC hotel on I-35. In fact, the FBI was given the hotel logs where the Iraqis stayed and they were “lost” by the FBI. There are multiple eyewitness accounts of a middle eatern man seen in the vicinity of the bombing. There are lots and lots of connections that were never fully investigated. Too many.
Great poet, lousy poem. It was completely inaccurate. Unfortunately, it is the “history” that many people know today. Yet, it served a purpose to bring the “day” to people to remember.
Jayna Davis
Link didn’t work. Trying again.
Another good book on the subject is Triple Cross by Peter Lance.
*Bubba Clinton; Why on earth would anybody with the common sense that God gave a grapefruit believe anything the man says?; He is a serial liar from the get go just in the adultery category alone; Less than zero cred to any rational thinking person.
You and I know she said it, but I’m guessing unless an intern screams it out, he’s never heard it…
Well we know Sandy Burgler doesnt having a problem stealing documents to cover up something – one can imagine wholesale cover-ups by these guys.
Cheating husbands have a knack for tuning out screeching wife talk.
“Whatever you say honey. I’ll be working late tonight. Don’t stay up.”
Your Little Willie.
My brother worked in the Murrah building, and quit his job about a month before the bombing.
My parents lived 18 miles away in Midwest City. The explosion rattled the house. They thought a plane had crashed at Tinker A.F.B.
Regardless of where the finger points regarding the tragedies of that horrible day, linking the Tea Party movement with McVeigh is as dishonest as a person can get.
It is not only my right to challenge the government, it is my duty.
Y’know, if Billy Boy really did “feel my pain”, he would shut his pie hole and disappear forever.
Just one more lie in an infinite series…
One of the things that has always bothered me is that especially in the Era of Pre-Fox News, the media treated the Branch Davidians in 1993 like they were somwhere between nothings to criminals right off the bat, while the victims of the OKC Bombing were treated as being just so precious because they they were GOV’T EMPLOYEES OR RELATIVES OF THE SAME.
It looks like to me they are still trying swing the McVeigh card when it suits their purposes. Let me see: a person is scared and angry about how their health care or taxes for the same are being spent or utilized is now a terrorist nut;this is the left’s way of saying you have no right to speak.
This is while the left is not being made to answer to establish the relationship between a Tea Partier and a terrorist/criminal.
The silver lining to this is that unlike 1993, the left wants to do this over a much wider population; this tactic is going to be a lot less credible this time around; Not everyone owns or wants to own a gun-people do need to see a doctor sooner or later.
The irony is that if Americans, especially those who did not then own a gun in 1993, had truly realized the grievous situation upon them in the form of personal, political, and constitutional assaults, they wouldn’t have to be facing it today when it is their Health Care that is at stake.
Morris, who worked for the Clintons calls both of them pathological liars. Is it not rather pathetic that a man who was president of the United States for eight years will be primarily remembered only for:
“There is no relationship…”
“I did not have sex with that woman.”
“That depends on what your definition of is is.”
Lame duck second term anyhow, but I’ve always wondered if the impeachment trial, legal battles and damage control may have taken his eye off the ball just as Al Qaida was gearing up for 9/11. Guess we’ll never know.
I don’t know whether to be amused or outraged Slick would try and use this horrific crime against Americans by comparing it to others that are peacefully protesting policies which are detrimental to our wellbeing as citizens.
He is either off his meds or needs some? He’s starting to drift and wander in his speech patterns and looking like an old drunk when standing before an audiance.
‘Bambi shot down Hill’s chances at a SC nomination – Slick comes out mouthing the mantra of the W.H. against the Tea Party movement. What is in it for them when they’ve been trumpted at every turn?
Slightly OT, but if you read the posted comments at the bottom of this article at CNN.com, you’ll be shocked.
Or not.
THey are all ripping on a 2nd Amendment supporter who carried a sign that reads “All my rights come from God, not the Government”.
Those commenters really don’t get it.
Only 53% of Americans paying any federal income tax. Can someone please explain to me why representation without taxation is justified? The only way that wealth redistribution can be brought under control is do away with the progressive income tax, and put a national sales tax or a flat tax for everyone. Once everyone actually pays taxes, everyone will be concerned. As Dear Leader once Said, ” Everyone needs have some skin in the game.”
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HI CHAPOUTIER–#1. I don’t think that Tim McVeigh needed any Muslim help on how to make an Ammonium Nitrate/Fuel Oil (ANFO) bomb. This is the mining explosive of choice for surface coal mining. Far cheaper and safer and easier to use than Dynamite or other explosives. And more powerful than most of them.
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McVeigh may have gotten his knowledge during his Army service. He may have gotten the detonators and Primacord he needed there also. Timmy was also smart enough to test out a small bomb first to make sure he “got it right”. The Muslim terrorist didn’t bother with the “Q.C.” checks and a field test when they tried to destroy the airliner last Christmas Eve. Their bomb design and construction was defective–and that–and maybe God’s help–was all that saved the plane and passengers.
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When I was in the army there was an excellent unclassified book on explosives engineering and uses that many G.I’s read. It taught safety, improvisition, and characteristics. Those of us in the missile business were required to read and understand it.
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Later at White Sands I saw many tons of ANFO piled up in a heap and detonated to simulate the effects of a nuclear blast on military equipment spaced around the “ground zero”. It was impressive as hell–and the damage to tanks, etc. was severe and unsurvivable at the closer ranges.
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John Bibb
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Uh, all my rights do come from God. What part of the Declaration of Independence do they NOT understand…
When you do not believe in God there are no consequences. If there are no consequences rules are unenforceable. Since there are no rules, only power matters.
Knowing this opponent is pretty straightforward.
Ha. Ha. I smell fear…when a has been, wannabesomebody like Bubba Clinton starts spouting inanities about the first Tea Party and comparing that to today’s protests against the Obama regime, it is to laugh! He is NOTHING for all his money and so-called celebrity. He brought such disrespect to the office of President that it is no wonder to me that he tolerates Obama. Remember please, Clinton is the one who made the racially-tinged remark, “…yeah, a few years ago, Obama would have been bringing us coffee.” to one of his cronies. The Tea Party of today is scaring the hell out of liberals.
T-bone, I found this link (below), with these quotes that should catch the eye of Slick Willie:
In detailed affidavits, these eyewitnesses positively identified eight Middle Eastern men, the majority of whom are former Iraqi soldiers, colluding with Oklahoma City bombers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols during various stages of the bombing plot.
and
The evidence that I have outlined, thus far, deals solely with the collusion of Iraqi nationals with Timothy McVeigh. However, I have also uncovered strong indicators of an Al-Qaeda connection to this terrorist operation. The McVeigh defense team uncovered evidence that indicated Terry Nichols might have received bomb making expertise from Al Qaeda explosives experts based in the Philippines.
We know that this small-time Kansas farmer of modest means took expensive and unexplained trips to the Philippines, many times without his Filipino mail order bride. The court record reveals the Oklahoma City bomber was in Cebu City in December 1994 at the same time as the mastermind of the first World Trade Center attack, Ramzi Yousef.
http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,JDavis_052704,00.html
Ramzi Yousef:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzi_Yousef
OT:
And in the lastest news, Obama is flying to California to stump for Barbara Boxer…..
The political kiss of death.
SEE YA BABS!!!!!….DLTDHYOTWO
Maybe Obama will come to Virginia to campaign for Gerry Connolly. We can only hope…
Also, instead of smearing Tea Party Americans, Bill Clinton should be concerned for this guy, reported missing:
http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/1883
Speaking of “crisis exploitation”, Tehran’s Friday prayer leader is quoted by Iranian media as saying:
I give that statement as much credence as the “scientific” claim that Global Warming causes earthquakes. Exploiting a crisis, or the fear of a crisis, is one of many things the left has in common with repressive regimes.
But if the Iranians are right about the cause of earthquakes, we’re doomed. Because, even in a burqa, Michelle Malkin is a 10 on the richter scale.
I knew people who died in the bombing. They were never found. I also know some of the survivors. I read a lot of stuff about it including Jaynas book. There was and is a coverup about what happened and the subsequent investigation. Clinton was President then.
You would be interested to know the suspected 3rd terrorist, Hussain Al Hussaini, was never fully investigated but later worked for a time at Logan Int’l Airport. Yes, the same airport the 9/11 hijackers left from.
From Fox News. Give it up, WH. Okay? It REALLY is getting old.
Mr. Clinton is a disgraced, impeached miserable lecher. His words mean nothing to decent citizens of this great country.
Gee, Clinton et al could be mistaken for a loosely-affiliated team laying the ground work for “strenghening” Hate Speech laws in a way that outlaws opposition speech. They wouln’t really do that….would they?
The thing that aggrevates me about Clenis isn’t him.It’s that there are still so many people in this country who refuse to see him for the low-life POS he is.
Right out in the open,he exploits every person and event for his own benefit,and so many American people still defend him.
Amazing.And sickening.
On Bubba, Waco and such – as Glenn Reynolds – Instapundit noted today:
“Meanwhile, somebody should ask Bill Clinton — and Barack Obama — about this: Beaten Jindal Staffer Says Protesters are the Perpetrators.
Bautsch’s leg was “stomped” by her assailants causing breaks in four places that required surgery, a steel rod and seven screws to reconstruct. Brown suffered a broken jaw and nose, a brain concussion and black eye. . . . The main group planning the protest according to their fliers was The Iron Rail Collective, a New Orleans-based anarchist group in the vein of those who make news in America and worldwide as they trash and burn cities whenever and wherever world leaders meet.
(Other reported protesters at the SRLC event included a group of University of New Orleans “UNO” professors and local Democrat groups.)
Their signs at the GOP event protest included the capital “A” with a circle, an anarchist gang-style symbol, and such gems as, “Capitalist f***s,” “Tax the Rich,” “JINDAL, tell your rich friends to GO HOME,” and “Ruling class robbers” to name a few.
Select protesters attempted to hide their identity by tying scarves or bandanas around their heads to cover the lower half of their faces right below the eyes.
The hypocrisy has gotten out of control. All the actual violence seems to be coming from lefty thugs. It’s just the hypothetical violence that seems to involve the right”
No, Mr. (former) President, we need to gag you. You are, and forever will be, a disgrace to my state and country. You are a liar, sex offender, predator, and adulterous lawyer who has not a shred of moral character.
Today is also the 235th anniversary of …
Hey Pill…nice fact, and relevant for today!
yeah… it is a nice fact. And I posted it at 10:30 am on this same thread.
geez.
He and his AG were responsible for murdering innocent children and violating their civil rights.