Police state: How Mexico treats illegal aliens
This is what a “police state” looks like
My syndicated column today responds to Mexican President Felipe Calderon’s demagoguery on Arizona’s immigration enforcement law. Calderon has a long history of bashing the U.S. — and then getting rewarded for it with billions of dollars in foreign aid (see here, here, and here).
I reported on Calderon’s aggressive meddling on behalf of illegal aliens through his government consulate offices in America here. Heather Mac Donald published a thorough investigation of the Mexican government meddle-crats here. Allan Wall has reported on it for years. Mike Sweeney, an Arizona Republic letter-writer underscores my column theme today:
“Having traveled into Mexico last year to various cities on the Baja Peninsula, a distance of more than 1,000 miles round-trip, we were stopped more than 20 times at various checkpoints. At most of those stops, we were told to exit the vehicle and we were subjected to rigorous inspections. Where does Mexican President Felipe Calderón get off with his hypocritical outrage at our Senate Bill 1070?”
Where indeed?
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How Mexico treats illegal aliens
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2010
Mexican President Felipe Calderon has accused Arizona of opening the door “to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement.” But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry new enforcement measures signed into law in “Nazi-zona” last week, they remain deaf, dumb or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.
The Arizona law bans sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce immigration laws, stiffens penalties against illegal alien day laborers and their employers, makes it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to complete and carry an alien registration document, and allows the police to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they are in the U.S. legally. If those rules constitute the racist, fascist, xenophobic, inhumane regime that the National Council of La Raza, Al Sharpton, Catholic bishops and their grievance-mongering followers claim, then what about these regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners?
– The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset “the equilibrium of the national demographics.” How’s that for racial and ethnic profiling?
– If outsiders do not enhance the country’s “economic or national interests” or are “not found to be physically or mentally healthy,” they are not welcome. Neither are those who show “contempt against national sovereignty or security.” They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.
– Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).
– Law enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens’ arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.
– Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens’ identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.
All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico’s Ley General de Población (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security Policy. There’s been no public clamor for “comprehensive immigration reform” in Mexico, however, because pro-illegal alien speech by outsiders is prohibited.
Consider: Open-borders protesters marched freely at the Capitol building in Arizona, comparing GOP Gov. Jan Brewer to Hitler, waving Mexican flags, advocating that demonstrators “Smash the State,” and holding signs that proclaimed “No human is illegal” and “We have rights.”
But under the Mexican constitution, such political speech by foreigners is banned. Noncitizens cannot “in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.” In fact, a plethora of Mexican statutes enacted by its congress limit the participation of foreign nationals and companies in everything from investment, education, mining and civil aviation to electric energy and firearms. Foreigners have severely limited private property and employment rights (if any).
As for abuse, the Mexican government is notorious for its abuse of Central American illegal aliens who attempt to violate Mexico’s southern border. The Red Cross has protested rampant Mexican police corruption, intimidation and bribery schemes targeting illegal aliens there for years. Mexico didn’t respond by granting mass amnesty to illegal aliens, as it is demanding that we do. It clamped down on its borders even further. In late 2008, the Mexican government launched an aggressive deportation plan to curtain illegal Cuban immigration and human trafficking through Cancun.
Meanwhile, Mexican consular offices in the United States have coordinated with left-wing social justice groups and the Catholic Church leadership to demand a moratorium on all deportations and a freeze on all employment raids across America.
Mexico is doing the job Arizona is now doing — a job the U.S. government has failed miserably to do: putting its people first. Here’s the proper rejoinder to all the hysterical demagogues in Mexico (and their sympathizers here on American soil) now calling for boycotts and invoking Jim Crow laws, apartheid and the Holocaust because Arizona has taken its sovereignty into its own hands:
Hipócritas.
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Already done.
Four times.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Sorry if you thought comment and correction was directed to you – I just can’t stand it when public officials like Hunter use that phrase.
Including the term “immigrant” to the description blurs the distiction of being a real legal immigrant – one who appreciates being a total citizen, and not just one who’s here milking the nation for undeserved rewards, even as desperate as some illegal aliens are.
We can no longer be the haven for all the worlds oppressed and those who will be abused for their willingness to work cheap, and haven’t been able to be that for some time.
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HI FLYOVERMAN–#106. On our car trips to Phoenix we see lots of pickups with 12 gauge shotguns on rear window racks. And there are probably a lot of the ever popular .45′s in cars.
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Shovels and axes won’t get rioters to first base in the Old West areas.
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It’s interesting to see how Telemundo (T.V. World) and Unavision (one vision) stirs up things in their Spanish programming. All “news” stories are about perceived (not real) “discrimination” against the poor “undocumented immigrants” (aka ILLEGAL ALIENS) in the U.S.A. It’s hell when these otherwise “legal” immigrants lose their valid visas, Social Security cards, passports, green cards, driver’s licenses, etc. and get unfairly hassled by our racist police and immigration agents. Maybe we could solve the problem by buying them all a belly band bag to hold these documents!
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I suggest that Mexico’s Presidente Caldaron leave his bedroom windows open so some of the returning “undocumenteds” can take up residence in his palace–without his permission–at his expense. If it’s O.K. for Arizona it’s O.K. for Mexico City. Maybe it will help him understand our feelings about his policies.
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John Bibb
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By the way, for clarification’s sake, my comments vis a vis Michelle and Beck are not to be taken as general negatives. I love them both, but am totally perplexed at their refusal to stand up for the Constitution with regard to the eligibility of the current occupant of the White House, especially given their propensity to otherwise stand in its favor.
Does it have something to do with their boss over at FNC, perhaps? I just don’t know.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
tiredofit08
Your link to youtube – WOW!
By forecasting their reaction to AZ’s new bill they best pray to the pagan gods of Astlan that no one in the state of AZ is harmed by an ax wielding illegal. Holy he#% will break loose. They have no idea how far people would travel to support their fellow Americans in AZ.
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HI PERK–#21. Yes–Mexico always puts their interests first–and the U.S.A. should stop being stupid and should put our interests first also.
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However, during World War 1 Mexico was in the throes of the 1912 Pancho Villa / Carranza / Zapata Revolution. And General Pershing and the U.S. Army were chasing Villa around after his raid on Colombus, NM. Mexico couldn’t have helped much during WW1.
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My deceased Mexican father-in-law told me about the people in his Namiquipa, Chihuahua farming village taking what they could load on their animals and carts and fleeing to a high mountain meadow 50 miles from the pueblo. He was 5 years old at the time. They lived there for months–killed and ate a cow or sheep as necessary, and hunted deer and rabbits to stay alive.
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Once a week they sent a scout down to see if they could return. When the war moved on they came back to a destroyed, burned out village. Some of those who stayed had been abused, raped, robbed, and many men forced to “join” the army that was in town that week–or to be shot.
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During World War 2 Mexico did provide soldiers that fought with the U.S.–I read about a Mexican fighter plane squadron that flew with the U.S. in the South Pacific. And Mexico did allow U.S. ships and planes to use Mexican ports and airstrips for ocean patrol purposes.
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John Bibb
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Hey all you Open-Borders Apologists out there, what’s it gonna take to FIX this problem, the molestation of one of Obama’s beautiful and precious daughters by an illegal alien rapist?
Is THAT when you’ll finally get it???”
Now, obviously, I strongly disdain the notion of even suggesting such a repugnant image (in spite of the fact that this exact tragedy has occurred to hundreds if not thousands of legal citizens already).
But equally obviously — and with an equal amount of intense disgust — I detest the sense that the answers to those excruciating questions is in fact…
“Yes”.
Is it true our hostess, MM, is going to be on Hannity tonight?
I’d just love to see a box featuring when she is to appear on any channel. Would save a bunch of electricity around the country. Would only have to turn it on when we know she’s going to be featured.
Bringing shovels and axes to a gun fight. What idiots!
sorry, you beat me to it.
And, the ‘riot’ is scheduled for when again? I know! After the first American citizen is murdered via ax or shovel. Sounds premeditated and decidedly stupid to me. I seem to remember that cute little law that was enacted in AZ that anyone can carry….
Those of you in AZ, how did that law read again?
Great minds…………..
Forgot to add to my #123
If the murder of a citizen is used to start a revolution or overthrow of a sovereign country, does it fall under sedition, treason, or blindly stupid?
If the murderer is an illegal, only “C” applies. If the murder is a US citizen than “D” applies (all of the above).
Wednesday Greetings Mrs. Malkin and loyal community. More than three centuries ago the English had a king (James II) who with his Continental notions of Divine Right was totally out of accord with his subjects. They looked forward to his eventual demise and natural supercession by one of his daughters, a more acceptable monarch. Then, his queen at last produced an heir (James Stuart the future Old Pretender). This upset all calculation of patience. Fevered minds imagined some London infant being rushed into the royal palace in a bedpan, etc. The wish was author of the fervently believed story. Alas, baby James was truly his father’s son. The King had to be displaced through the Glorious Revolution, which would see him take up residence in St. Germain, which would also be a quite suitable refuge for the present dirigiste White House occupant.
In the present time, some are side-tracked from confronting Mr. Obama about his willingness to faithfully execute the laws, through an impractical and unhelpful fixation on his birthplace. Per what really happened, there can be no practical doubt about his birth in the State of Hawaii, two years after its admission to the Union.
Best wishes that the Tea Partiers here will concentrate their fine patriotic vigor on either salvaging the Republican party, or if it is deemed too far gone, going forward with something new, as Whigs, some Northern Democrats, and Know-Nothings did in the mid-1850s.
All these naysayers about the Arizona Immigration law saying that it will result in racial profiling need to explain how the feds, if they chose to do their jobs, would gather up illegals themselves. Have they got a secret weapon of some sort that prevents them from profiling? Some sort of ink on the forehead that says “I’m an Illegal Alien” when exposed to UV light?
Maybe if the feds would share their secret, Arizona could use it and avoid the profiling.
24Klady … you are correct … there are some limitations such as in bars and such where you must still have a concealed carry permit to be armed … but otherwise … no conceal permit required …
So it’s unconstitutional to ask and illegal to show papers. Gee, I want to be like an illegal. Maybe I should not have to show a passport to get a job in the US or show a license to get on a plane. Does this administration know how stupid it sounds when it panders to the illegals to the exclusion of the American citizens? If Bho wants a second term, he should campaign for the Mexican presidency.
BHO doesn’t have to. Grand SHAMESTY and teach them to vote for the person w/ (D) behind his/her name.
Oops!!! “Grant SHAMNESTY”
(Stupid keyboard!)
DesertLover #130
Thank you. I’m betting if things get any more out of hand you’re going to see a huge amount of personal protection devices sold.
We’re going to be enundated with news out of D.C. in the next few weeks to divert attention away from this matter. Who would ever have thought AZ would be the state to place ‘Bambi’s little ‘ahems’ in a vice? No matter which way he turns this isn’t going to be good for him. I would love to see TX, NM, AZ, CO, UT, WY, MT, and ID join together as a block – and any other state that wants to join. CA will never give in, but parts of OR and WA will. Together they could be a formidable force for insisting the border be fenced and saying no amnesty to those here illegally.
What happened to #131? Wasn’t mine but it skipped a beat from 130-132…Was someone naughty?
I agree with you, but you are going to be accused of hijacking the thread and/or talking about something unimportant. It’s amazing how things like, for example, healthcare, and now amnesty, get discussed and fought against for months, then jammed through anyway, (healthcare), when an obvious way to stop all of this is available, but not used.
Something is way wrong.
Maybe the Alinsky tactics are more effective than we could ever dream?
If it is unconstitutional to ask someone for documentation then why do I have to fight with the Social Security Administration to correct the errors they made on my childrens’ SSN documents? They demand numerous forms of documentation to correct an error that they made because they didn’t take time to read the original documentation we provided at birth! Maybe I should tell them Obama says it is unconstitutional to demand ID…
All these poor, mistreated illegals can always return home to their own countries. No one is forcing them to remain here to be subjected to the “bigoted” treatment by the American citizenry. If Americans are so rotten, why stay here at all????
The mayor of Costa Mesa, CA. is considering Arizona style policies.
Many apartment management companies require ID to be given a tour of their properties if you are considering renting.
Any American supporting the illegal alien invasion, should be tried for treason.
Secure the border with the military first. Then, we can talk about helping the poor.
Bob and RWR,
Maybe somebody, somewhere has decided they want to wage war on a front that actually has some possibility of yielding results. You are free to go and start an “All Birther, All the Time” blog but not everyone here wants to engage in that discussion.
Frankly, I don’t know where Obama was born and I believe I have the right to know. But I recognize that is a relatively fruitless discussion at this time and until some court or some other outside player decides to bring greater resources to bear on the question is it beyond my means to influence. And it is beyond your means too.
Learn to live with it. We all aren’t stuck on one thing we cannot change…
OK, I’ll live with it and continue to do what I can, with or without help…and, frankly, it doesn’t matter were Obama was born; he is not Constitutionally eligible to be president. If you choose to believe that is a problem you can do nothing about, then continue fighting to stop healthcare……or whatever the next jam-down is. As for me, I can still multi-task, and prioritize, and I’m going for the big one than can undo the ones you are fighting that will happen anyway.
Southpaw #143
I had owned multiple rental properties in NoCal and always owned my own home. I was ‘invited’ to transfer with my company to SoCal and needed breathing room to decide if I liked it. When I was asked to leave my drivers license at the front desk of an apartment building I know I looked dumbstruck. That was 20 years ago.
Go Costa Mesa!
For $125, any illegal can get any US documents he wants, Birth Certificate, Drivers license, Social security card and then vote. Obama is counting on this!
Of course the Democrats DO NOT want to have people show ID for certain activities. Requiring the presentation of valid ID would shrink the Dems base for votes and clients for their government programs.
On April 28th, 2010 at 1:42 pm, 24Klady said:
Well Three police officers have been shot by illegal aliens here in Phoenix in the past month. Does that count?
And we do like our “toys” here in Arizona. I carry, two of my business partners carry, my wife carries, many of my friends carry…
I have been putting off purchasing a pistol but I think I need to get one and a rifle or shotgun too. But I need a good, safe place to store them in the house.
I am really concerned that the leftists are going to push this well past the limits and I am concerned it is going to happen sooner than I ever imagined…
This is fantastic. Drudge is reporting that Arizonans are organizing a boycott of all Mexican restaurants, travel to Mexico and more. I guess we’ll see how far the legal Mexican immigrants can be pushed by the illegal thugs before they understand that they are making a mistake allowing themselves to be intimidated by these cynical and counter-productive reconquista riots.
On a similar vein, Mayor Newsome called for boycotting Arizona and canceling all government contracts with that state. Problem is that it will cost thousands of city jobs and curtail some services that are too expensive to do in-state. Who said so? Mayor Newsome’s official spokesman. Another example of mouth going one way and brain going the other.
Go Arizona. I truly wish this would spread. Maybe the feds might get a clue then. I am in Phoenix right now (on business) and I will continue to support the state in any way I can. That big mouth city council of S.F. can kiss my b*tt good bye. I will never set foot in that city again, or spend 1 dime defending them (or any city that lashes out againt Arizona).
And one more thing. The freaking immigration laws have always been on the books. They aren’t new. What is new is the federal gov’t refusing to secure our borders, sovereignty, and enforce immigration laws (they hide behind compassion and PC). So the GREAT states will do the job the feds refuse to do. If that p*sses off a bunch of racist hispanic invaders and their sympathisers, well too bad. GET OUT ALREADY. I hope you don’t feel welcome here. Leeches!!!
WarEagle82 #159
Take thyself, right now, to your nearest gun store. You’ll need more than one handgun. If you’re married or have a significant other they need to be familiar with them as well. If you can’t find what you need, online shopping is a last resort. For about $20 any valid dealer can ship it to your local dealer to transfer over to you, once all the Fed paperwork is satisfied.
NASA scientists have declared that there is a good chance that they have discovered signs of life on Mars.
Could take a while to confirm the findings. The project team members are located in Arizona, California and New York. This boycott of Arizona by Mayor Newsome is getting complicated fast. How are we going to explain this to our Martian friends?
WarEagle82
There are tons of really good safe boxes to keep your weapons – all the way from $20K safes to undercounter sleeves that opens with a fingerprint. Now, in a crisis, you’ll just have to remember which finger you use to open it.
One friend had a small closet that frankly was not good for anything. Guess what it turned into? With a commercial key only access/deadbolt it’s perfect. Just look around.
Phil #163
Mayor Newsom is fixin’ to make a whole lot of vegan residents of S.F. go into withdrawals. CA grows just about everything known to man, but the crops are behind AZ’s schedule. Pop some popcorn and grab a beer. Nothing crankier than a vegan without greens.
You may carry open most anytime-a few restricted places.
You can carry concealed with or without a concealed carry license. The license allows you to carry concealed into bars and such(if you are not drinking) and if you want to carry concealed in Reciprocity states you need a license.
Concealed Weapons & Permits
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Let your sidearm be like Master Card: Don’t Leave home without it.
An Armed Society is a polite society.
I’d stay away from the finger scan safes. Why tempt someone to kill you and cut off your finger?
I have a diabolically tempting set-up where I keep several dozens of decoy keys hanging and lying around all over the place. It looks organized which is what is so diabolical. And they actually fit into locks nearby but don’t open any of them. I know exactly where my real keys (and their backups) are at all times and they are never in my home when I’m away.
Nothing will stop a determined thief but you don’t have to make it easy. My gun locker is bolted to the floor joists and wall beams in a closet. None of my guns are worth stealing but you would have to wake up the entire neighborhood to get at them.
Off topic…riot police called in for tea party gathering…guess barry was scared of those old ladies…what a joke…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2tKIBlTC6c&feature=player_embedded
Off topic but could it be that the Michigan “militia” situation is turning into another Ruby Ridge?
From the few facts made public, I find these characters hard to love but if this is yet another case of the government trampling on the rights of people just to make an example of innocent people for political reasons…. This report suggests that the government’s case is weak.
Though I am quite sure it’s been said before, let me fix this to the proper rejoinder:
STFD then STFU
“Guns.” I have had guns pointed at me all over the world.
See what happens when you don’t proof your posts.
I remember leaving a hotel room in South America once. The guard had a shotgun that I swear must have been a muzzle loader. He had two functions. The first was to keep banditos away from the hotel and the second was to make sure guests had paid their bills before they left.
I was leaving very early to catch a flight so I paid my bill the night before. But I had not expected to meet an armed guard demanding my bill at Oh dark thirty as I left. Let me just say I spent a few tense moments looking for my receipt with this ancient weapon pointing in my direction. There is excitement and there is excitement…
Phil #167
I’m with you on the finger scans, eww. Every home has someplace you can equip for storage of a firearm. I really like some of the items coming out for safe storage of it in your trunk if you’re prevented by law from entering carrying. They’d have to steal the car to get it and then it’s a problem getting it out. Great laugh though.
Newsome is such an opportunistic nitwit. I plan on visiting the Grand Canyon this year and spend a bit of money.
Newsome can have his freak show out there…I will never set foot in his city.
As for Arizona, this headline just popped on Yahoo Headlines:
Many illegal immigrants plan to leave Arizona over new law
…and that’s a bad thing?
Don’t be too hasty. There are many reasons communists would wish to conceal their travels to potential communist countries. A birth announcement in Hawaii would provide pretty awesome cover.
Furthermore, a birth announcement is even less proof than a COLB, which is also not legal proof of birthplace – not even in Hawaii. The only way to conclusively prove where Barack Obama was born is to present the vault birth certificate that has been subpoenaed by the courts, and which subpoena Mr. Obama has spent over a million dollars fighting.
At a minimum, Americans should be insisting he show the thing just to find out what exactly he has to hide.
Furthermore, simply proving birth in Hawaii does not prove natural born citizenship. Both parents’ US citizenship must also be proven. Good luck with that. It’s long been established that Barack Obama, Sr. was NEVER a citizen of the United States.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Anyone here want to assert that I am “one of McCain’s people”?
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Laughable.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Way to school that fool on Hannity Michelle!
One supreme slap down for sure!
This is all going to the same place.
The illegals shouldn’t have to show proof of anything.
Obama doesn’t have to show proof of anything.
Neither should anyone else.
So that puts the libs in a situation whereby they would just set up a “system” that “took care” of everybody so that no one would have to show proof of anything.
This is sick, but it’s exactly what the Left is trying to do.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
As the final arbiters of the law, WE THE PEOPLE are perfectly within our means fighting this battle. Either you are for the Constitution or you are against it. YOU learn to live with it.
It really irks me that people dwell so much on WHERE Obama was born in addressing those who wish the Constitution be enforced. The even more relevant fact is that his father was a foreign national, which disqualifies him for office.
This is something that MUST change, or we risk losing our republic to the Fascists and Socialists on the Left. Enjoy your communist utopia if we lose this fight. Just remember that if we do lose it, it will be because of people like you who refused to stand up and fight.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
How do you say “Do as I say, not as I do” in Mexican?
On April 28th, 2010 at 10:44 pm, Dexter Alarius said:
Per Babblefish.com, it’s
Alternatively,
“Yes, We Can!” –> “¡Sí se puede!” –> Alinsky Radicals –> Lucifer
Rock on, rightwingrocker.
Obama’s biological and adoptive fathers were both foreigners.
Obama’s earliest memories are of growing up in a foreign country.
Obama’s wife called Kenya his “home country”.
He is a “foreigner”. And our first Chief Justice warned against such a person commanding our country and our military.
At least the people being “abused” by Arizona officials by asking them for documents, wont be raped, or killed. Mexico can kiss my ***. Ive vacationed there several times. Never again.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100429/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_mexico_migrants_1
Gov. Bill Richardson at the Democratic National Convention in Denver Colorado on Sept. 1st 2008 (in Spanish):
RWR,
I am living with it. And I suggest you learn to live with it too. All your endless comments haven’t changed a thing. I am about as conservative as can be but I understand that no legal action is likely to force Obama from office before the 2012 election cycle.
And I expect that one day we are very likely to discover that he is in fact ineligible and it will cause a massive constitutional crisis that shakes the republic to the core as every act he authorized will be invalidated because he is almost certainly ineligible to hold the office of President.
And I agree that there are several valid arguments as to why he is not an NBC whether he was born in Hawaii or not. And I’d like them explored in court. But I don’t have the means or resources to bring about the circumstances that expose his ineligibility. So I am not going to make every post on every thread about Obama’s ineligibility.
And I am standing up and fighting every day. I am just fighting on fronts we may possibly win or at least where I can make a difference. Get a life and do something that might actually help get these leftists out of power. Unless you are going to hack Obama’s records from a hospital or college you are wasting your time and droning on and on about something you can’t influence.
WarEagle82,
All we need is one Senator and one Representative to speak up and enforce current immigration law.
When the Electoral College vote was certified by Congress, Dick Cheney broke the law.
Since the law was not followed then, all we need is one Senator and one Representative to speak up now and object that Obama has not supplied an I-9 form and supporting initial, original birth certificate in order to prove compliance with current immigration law and our Constitution.
Well, RedPill, I suggest you spend your time writing to one Senator and one Representative and Dick Cheney. And for the second and final time, Obama could file in I-9 form with a drivers license and a social security card. And he clearly has those documents. When you make stupid claims about I-9s you sound like an uninformed lunatic. You DO NOT NEED a birth certificate to complete an I-9. Read the form…
Did Michelle really imply that we be more like Mexico?
I caught that too. Excellent job MM!
For those that missed it, she was interviewed opposite Francisco Hernandez the immigration attorney from TX. She caught him contradicting himself VERY badly and called him on it and did the usual great job of laying out the facts and sticking to subject.
No cable in this household but I wouldn’t watch Hannity if I had cable even if Michelle was on. I just can’t stand to listen to Hannity. He isn’t nearly as smart as Michelle but I don’t think he knows that…
WarEagle82,
You obviously didn’t read my response the last time you went on a tirade about the I-9 form. So, I don’t have a high level of confidence that you’ll read this reply, but I’ll reply to you anyway.
I am well aware that “Obama could file in I-9 form with a drivers license and a social security card.” But so could a naturalized citizen. The only piece of documentation that can prove citizenship from birth is a birth certificate. Obama claimed in his book that he has his original birth certificate. If he were to submit an I-9 form without it, it would prove he’s eligible to work in the U.S., but it would not prove he’s eligible to hold the office of POTUS.
When you point a finger at me, three fingers are pointing back at you.
And, RedPill, you seem to fail to understand I am not arguing his eligibility. I frankly think there are several valid challenges to his status. But so far no court and no other officer of the federal government has been willing to take up the issue.
But you are the one who claimed Obama HADN’T filled out an I-9. In fact you don’t know what forms he has or hasn’t filled out but you stated as a fact that he hadn’t filled out an I-9.
You absolutely do. You are a citizen of the United States of America. NO ONE has more resources than you or I do.
Furthermore, your choice not only to sit idly by while this Constitutional crisis continues, but to attempt to discourage and disparage those who are willing to fight in your place, makes you an accessory to the crime.
If you don’t want to fight the fight, step aside while the rest of us fight it for you. Most importantly, stay out of our way, or you may be caught in the crossfire.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Seems to me you’re fighting us.
The only reason you would treat us this way is that you don’t want the fight fought. So don’t sit there and pretend you’re fighting when one of the most basic and important clauses of the supreme law of the land goes unenforced not only with your blessing, but with your resistance to anyone who chooses to stand in your place.
No, my friend, you are not standing up. You are playing the game that the liberals play every day – choosing for yourself which parts of the Constitution you wish to see enforced, and letting any others go at your whim. When doing the right thing suits your whim, you support it. When it doesn’t, you don’t.
Just look at how “conservatives” are treating Socialist Security this very day. Do we hear anyone talking about dismantling it? Of course not. It doesn’t suit their whim, even though that program is a blatant violation of the separation of powers and multiple provisions of the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment. Instead, we hear “conservatives” telling us that Socialist Security is a “truly important program”.
The Constitution is the supreme law of the land – in its entirety, not just the parts you feel like standing up to defend.
I don’t need to. They have been subpoenaed by a court of law. All I have to do is sign the petitions and use my powers under the First Amendment to influence people’s decision to fight. I’ve presented the evidence, and presented it well. No one has been willing or able to rebut it. If I can do this, then you can too, so don’t sit around trying to tell me you’re fighting (especially when you’re fighting ME instead of those undermining the Constitution), because you ain’t fighting squat.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
True enough, and I’m not particularly interested in the I-9 for that reason, but to acquire the documents required to complete an I-9 (driver’s license, passport, Socialist Security Card), does require a birth certificate.
The focus of this issue is clearly misplaced, though, as the focus should be on the citizenship of his father, which is an open and shut case.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Not true.
This case is currently active in at least one court, and may still be active elsewhere.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Republicans hit Arizona immigration law
Florida Senate candidate Marco Rubio said in a statement Tuesday that he fears the law puts the Arizona’s police force in an “incredibly difficult position.”
“Rubio criticism was quickly followed up by a fellow Floridian, former Gov. Jeb Bush. In an interview with POLITICO, Bush said the law is not “the proper approach.”
And of course Karl Rove ran his mouth.
Millions of our people are unemployed, millions more struggling on reduced wages and these Open Border whores slam Arizona for trying to do SOMETHING. Our cities are cess pools of murder, rape, robbery and such due to criminal gangs from Marco Rubio’s beloved Cuba, Jamaica, Haiti, Mexico and Central America. Seattle and Portland have their hands full with Viet Namese and Chinese gangs-too often illegals, New York and New Jersey both have the Russian illegals.
Marco Rubio was a golden boy-today he is Florida’s Lady Lindsay/Amnesty McCain. Perhaps Little Havana’s Little Rubio will return my contribution-he should be getting some skim from the Mariel Boatlift gangs.
Yes Mexico is being terribly dishonest in this debate-and much of our political class won’t even try to protect our citizens; weaklings and cowards serve no useful purpose. Be Gone you whores.
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An Armed Society is a polite society.
Great post Arizona!! For the idiots you mentioned to whine about Arizona finally doing what the federal government flatly refuses to do is absurd beyond belief.
It’s way past time for “WE AREN’T GOING to TAKE IT ANYMORE”!
Thank God for the government and citizens of Arizona.
Rightwingrocker, I’m with you and I’m not giving up.
Thanks for your efforts.
NJ has a lot more than just Russian illegals. Yes, they are in this sanctuary state in droves, but Central American illegals are here in huge numbers. It’s really shocking what has happened in the last 6 or 7 years. Any restaurant in the area has 15 bicycles parked behind it. Highways have people walking along them and riding their bikes. We’re talking about adults, not kids.
If you’re a kid in NJ looking for a summer job, you can forget it. You won’t get one at any restaurant, and landscape outfit, and smaller construction company or just about any retail establishment here in NJ. Not when those employers can hire illegals for far less, with no payroll tax and NO RISK whatsoever. No official in this state will lift a finger to go after illegal hiring. I-9 form??? What’s that?
It’s sickening.
State Rep. Ben Miranda, a Phoenix Democrat who will serve as the local attorney on the case, said it was important to file the suit quickly to show local Latinos and the rest of the country that there’s still a chance the law won’t be enacted.
“I think there’s real damage being caused right now,” Miranda said. “How do you measure the kind of fear … going on in many parts of this community?”
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Yes, the fear is sad and damaging. It is however being caused by the left and open border crowd by their intentional misrepresentation of the law.
Unlike with Scott Borwn, I bit my tongue vis a vis Marco Rubio.
Aren’t you glad you found this out before the primary?
Now you know who you are voting for if you choose to vote for him, for better or for worse …
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Cumberland County in the southern part of the state is literally CRAWLING with the stereotypical Mexican variety – and they live up to the stereotype too.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
You really mean live DOWN to the stereotype. I’ve seen some once nice decent neighborhoods around Los Angeles, devolve into filthy third world junkyards in less than 20 years thanks to low or no standards mindsets of waves of the incoming residents. And its getting worse. You don’t have to go to the border for mega trash pickup projects, just go to some of LA’s neighborhoods.
I’m looking forward to some type of legal challenge to our new anti-illegal immigration law. It is as a result or by-product of some kind of legal action that the court will make clear that our AZ law is in fact nothing more than existing laws or guidelines. There is nothing new about any of it.
As a result what will be clear for all to see is the lack of enforcement has bee willful on the part of our federal government.
When that truth becomes clear, there will be a political price exacted.
When the reality of that political price being paid becomes clear, you will see the left shut down these lawsuits faster the than crowd of illegals at my local Home Depot has disappeared….
this story is a big effin deal!
Excellent point.
How’s that hearing on companies revising their financial statements going for ya, Henry Waxman?
Someone should teach these people to pull their guns out of the holster before pulling the trigger.
Never trust a neo-con. It was George Bush, with the help of Rove, that drove the GOP over a cliff. Heres hoping conservatives pick up the pieces while the neo-cons go back to the Democratic party where they actually belong.
I don’t understand why anyone pays any attention to Karl Rove. He did in fact lead the GOP to disgrace and the nation disaster to get his man elected to two terms. Frankly, it wasn’t worth it.
I think the term for this is “Pyrrhic Victory.”
Support these AZ companies:
http://www.publiusforum.com/oldopeds/AAsupportAZcompanies.html
off topic:
House votes 223-169 to allow Puerto Ricans to decide their own political future and relationship with U.S.
Here’s the roll call vote:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll242.xml
Support AZ buy a Diamond Back hat or t-shirt and wear it on May Day!!!
Eh …
Up, down, who knows in hyperspace?
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Oh, but it was better than Al Gore or John Kerry would have done ……
Having voted for Bush in both of those elections for the very reason people using to back up their decisions to shout me down for not voting for John McCain, I concur.
How do you guys all like John McCain right about now?????
Go J.D.!
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Any why exactly would Puerto Ricans need a House vote to be allowed to make that decision???
IT’S THEIR RIGHT ANYWAY!
Perhaps this vote is the liberals’ way of telling Puerto Rico to $h!+ or get off the pot.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
This pretty much explains it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=221HPogZUyY
OT HotAir installed a nice update last night, the site loads a bit faster too.
That said and to be perfectly clear, this is my homepage.
Do you mean the New and Reformed John McCain who has ALWAYS supported Enforcement First on the Border, ALWAYS has been opposed to big spending and has ALWAYS been opposed to Big Government encroachment? That John McCain?
He turns back into a pumpkin August 24.