The cartoon jihadists never forget

By Michelle Malkin  •  May 12, 2010 10:12 AM

In August 2007, I blogged about this little cartoon depicting Mohammed as a dog:

The religion of perpetual outrage swung into action against the Swedish artist who drew the image, Lars Vilks.

Vilks hit the nail on the head at the time:

Vilks said he made the drawings after being invited to contribute to an art exhibition in central Sweden on the theme of dogs.

“To begin with, the message was to make a critical contribution on the dog theme, but it took another direction,” Vilks told AP in a phone interview. “Why can you not criticize Islam when you can criticize other religions?”

Three years later, the cartoon jihadists are still raging against Vilks for speaking truth to sharia power:

A Swedish artist who angered Muslims by depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a dog was assaulted Tuesday while giving a university lecture about the limits of artistic freedom.

Lars Vilks told The Associated Press a man in the front row ran up to him and head-butted him during a lecture, breaking his glasses but leaving him uninjured. It wasn’t immediately clear what happened to the attacker.

Vilks has faced numerous threats over his controversial drawing of Muhammad with a dog’s body, but Tuesday’s incident was the first time he has been physically assaulted.

Earlier this year U.S. investigators said Vilks was the target of an alleged murder plot involving Colleen LaRose, an American woman who dubbed herself “Jihad Jane,” and who now faces life in prison. She had pleaded not guilty.

Allahpundit has the video.

Remember: The Religion of Perpetual Outrage hates all infidels. The targeting of Mohammed cartoonists is a lingering pretext to demonstrate that centuries-old, Koran-inspired hatred. If it isn’t cartoons, it’s always something else. From fresco rage to book rage to film rage to beauty pageant rage to Koran-dropping rage to cartoon rage to Pope rage, to ceramic Mohammed bobbleheads, it never ends.

They never forget and they never forgive. Which is why we must never submit.

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Lan astaslem: Arabic for “I will not submit/surrender”

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Vilks stands firm:

While Vilks escaped the incident with broken glasses and a degree of shock, he said it raised concerns about the freedom of expression at Sweden’s oldest and most prestigious institute of higher learning.

“What you get is a mob deciding what can be discussed at the university,” Vilks told The Associated Press, adding he was ready to repeat the lecture if re-invited.

“I’m ready to go up again,” he said. “This must be carried through. You cannot allow it to be stopped.”

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  1. #1
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:19 am, b-cat said:

    Muhammed as a dog? HA.

  2. #2
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:24 am, thejim said:

    Muslims don’t like dogs?

  3. #3
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:24 am, b-cat said:

    They murdered Theo van Gogh for far less. Mr. Vilks better watch his back from now on, because the religion of peace never forgets a grudge. Ask Salman Rushdie.

  4. #4
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:24 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    Mohammed as a dog?

    I would add murderous dog.

  5. #5
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:28 am, sbw999 said:

    The followers of Islam who carry with them permanent outrage over these “slights”, are no more rational, or part of the civilized world than are hornets. When you stir up their nests, like any other purely instinctive creature lacking reason, they attack. And they need to treated as such. Avoid them if possible. If they attack, defend yourself with lethal force.

  6. #6
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:32 am, SHoward said:

    Well, dogs are known not to be particular about their diet.

    I ain’t sayin’, I’m just sayin’…

  7. #7
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:33 am, b-cat said:

    I would add murderous dog.

    Good one. Perhaps rabid dog. Mad dog certainly.

  8. #8
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:33 am, graysonret said:

    These radicals can only react emotionally, never logically. It’s the way that clerics (who are the governments in most islamic nations) control people. They take illiterate people, infuse them with radical fervor, and send them out in the world. Whenever you have religion and state merging, this is the result. However, not all buy into this radicalism. They flee to have their own lives. The mosques ostrasize them. The end will come when Islam and western civilization come to blows. One will have enough of the other. Armaggeddon.

  9. #9
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:39 am, JodyT said:

    Let’s play “Find Rage Boy.” I thought I saw him up near the podium at the beginning of the video. Anybody else spot him in the crowd?

  10. #10
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:42 am, spaceycakes said:

    Ok, I’m scared of anyone who thinks a depiction of a revered person is the person themself. How do they know that little doodle is Mohammed? WTF? It has as much impact on me as the depictions of ‘Jesus’ with long hair & blue eyes.

  11. #11
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:43 am, single stack said:

    Mohammed as a dog?

    I would add murderous dog.

    Make that murderous, child molesting pervert dog.

  12. #12
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:43 am, b-cat said:

    “Citing passages from the Hadith, the collected sayings of Mohammed, … by his own account, the founder of Islam was often possessed by Satan. The phrase “Satanic Verses” refers to words that Mohammed first claimed had come from God, but which he later concluded were spoken by Satan. Mohammed married 11 women, kept two others as concubines and recommended wife-beating (but only as a last resort!). His third wife was 6 years old when he married her and 9 when he consummated the marriage. To say that Mohammed was a demon-possessed pedophile is not an attack. It’s a fact.” (quoted from Murder for Fun and Prophet)

    Mohammed the mad dog.

  13. #13
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:46 am, jrlingreenbay said:

    It’s disturbing that someone would be so villified for drawing a cartoon….

    It’s also pretty disturbing that THIS cartoon is actually considered ‘art’…

    Good Lord, I’ve seen better work on the walls of a grade school hallway.

  14. #14
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:55 am, wildcat84 said:

    Comparing the “prophet” mohammed to a dog is insulting.

    Insulting to the dog that is.

  15. #15
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:56 am, b-cat said:

    Was Mohammed a man of peace, as proclaimed by current Islamic literature, or a military leader? The Prophet announced the concept of holy war (Jihad) in 624 AD. The Koran records his words, “I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them. …And slay them wherever ye catch them….” Most experts agree that in the next nine years Mohammed personally led nine of at least 27 military campaigns. However, an Islamic website (http://www.al-islam.org/restatement/20.htm ) brags, “roughly speaking, the Prophet launched 80 campaigns during the ten years from his migration in A.D. 622 to his death in A.D. 632.”

    In parts of Africa, Islam is held as a “black man’s religion” even though Muhammad was a fair skinned owner of black slaves which he called “raisin heads”. Conquest for slaves and women led to roughly seven centuries of Arabs enslaving Africans before the Europeans tied into the existing routes of trafficking humans. Perhaps Islam in Africa was forced to become a black man’s religion after the Holy Prophet institutionalized the three day rape clause that resulted in an increase of black Muslim babies.

    On one such Jihad expedition (holy war) Muhammad’s men came to him very frustrated. Ibn Masud reported, “We were fighting with the Messenger of Allah, and our wives were not with us. We asked the Messenger of Allah, ‘Should we castrate ourselves?’ The Holy Prophet forbade us from that, and then he allowed us Muta (temporary) marriage. So, we all married wives for a fixed time (usually three days) for the dowry of a piece of cloth.” (Al Hadis, Vol. 2, p. 686) This Hadith instituted the Islamic theology of Muta marriage which some Muslim soldiers declared Sunnat (lawful) to justify rape during the Iraqi “Jihad” invasion into Kuwait. Other abuses against women are imbedded in the Koran.

    Mohammed the mad dog.

  16. #16
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:56 am, hunter said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:33 am, graysonret said:
    These radicals can only react emotionally, never logically.

    Until you mentioned the merger of religion and state, I was wondering why you were talking about democrats on this post.

  17. #17
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:57 am, letget said:

    If you make enough of a stink, you get your way. The rop type are taking one inch at a time. These people remind me of the way the illegals are going about trying to change the U.S., all they are doing is making us mad! Even that cartoon show that had this rop type head guy had to quit showing this person. The 1st seems not to work for those who have a negative thing to say or draw about this rop type top dog person here any longer.
    L

  18. #18
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:58 am, SHoward said:

    pervert dog

    Well, where does a dog go straight for the first time he meets another dog? Or a person, for that matter?

  19. #19
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:58 am, John Deaux said:

    “What you get is a mob deciding what can be discussed at the university,” Vilks told The Associated Press

    Tom Tancredo agrees.

  20. #20
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:58 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    Lars Vilks told The Associated Press a man in the front row ran up to him and head-butted him during a lecture, breaking his glasses but leaving him uninjured. It wasn’t immediately clear what happened to the attacker.

    I say apply “their” laws to him. Execute the attacker.

  21. #21
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:59 am, RedDog said:

    My dog likes cat poo fresh out of the litter box. I wonder if Moh would find it tasty – right before one of his legendary raping and pillaging adventures?

  22. #22
    On May 12th, 2010 at 11:09 am, graysonret said:

    Hunter, no. The dems are too busy, right now, with the “potty parity act”.

    The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is holding hearings Wednesday on the “Potty Parity Act,” a bill that seeks to address the unequal restroom facilities for women in federal buildings.

  23. #23
    On May 12th, 2010 at 11:17 am, b-cat said:

    Muslim student admits being for another holocaust.

    http://www.breitbart.tv/for-it-muslim-student-in-san-diego-confesses-she-wants-a-second-holocaust/

    Liberal jews wake up. The left are not your friends. They are selling you out.

  24. #24
    On May 12th, 2010 at 11:18 am, swede said:

    Meanwhile, after caving to the Islamists, courageous Comedy Central is preparing a series on Jesus knowing of course that Christians will make a big stink – jacking their ratings – but will not threaten anyone. The Christian response to this should just be, “Comedy who? Next.”

  25. #25
    On May 12th, 2010 at 11:26 am, swede said:

    And for the kiddies – Islamic Rage Boy as “Muzz Lightyear”.

  26. #26
    On May 12th, 2010 at 11:33 am, greenfairie said:

    I see the jihadists and the left are using the same playbook. Shame on these universities for letting mobs dictate who gets to speak and who doesn’t.

  27. #27
    On May 12th, 2010 at 11:45 am, rfjjulie said:

    Man, I would love to find one of those mohammed bobbleheads. No luck so far.

  28. #28
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:01 pm, GladzKravtz said:

    knowing of course that Christians …. will not threaten anyone.

    And there it is from swede, with a little editing.
    The world knows that civilizations raised via Judeo-Christian values (whether practiced as religion or not) are tolerant and usually do not respond in violence.
    Those who disparage Christians, plus much of the world media and many Americans who hate America(“GD America” and “For the first time I’m proud of my country” sic) take total comfort – nestle into the security given them via Judeo – Christian values.

  29. #29
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:01 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Dogs everywhere howl in dismay!

  30. #30
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:09 pm, purplepeep said:

    Heck, 90 % of my doodlings have more artistic merit. :)

    Of course, I haven’t produced my own visual rendering of “Crazy Mo” yet so I doff my tophat, offer a hearty “Skål!” and a petition for divine protection for Herr Vilks!

  31. #31
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:11 pm, corkie said:

    Peaceful speech and expression should not be threatened with physical violence. It’s good to stand against the threats. It’s good to deny those that make threats a victory. It’s good to dilute the effectiveness of the threats by proliferating the threatened speech.

    However, there’s no reason to needlessly insult someone’s religion.

    I think efforts should be made to minimize the insults when expressing your views.

    It’s possible to describe problems, even inherent problems, with a religion without being needlessly disrespectful.

    I think Michelle Malkin does a good job with this.

    I think many of you do not.

    I’m not suggesting that anyone needs to submit, surrender, roll-over, dance, or silence themselves.

    But I think that efforts to refuse submission and surrender will be much more effective if they are done in a less offensive manner.

  32. #32
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:12 pm, Surveyor said:

    I’m going to start a website dedicated to mohammad cartoons.

    I need some suggestions for the website name.

    8)

  33. #33
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:16 pm, purplepeep said:

    corkie said:

    However, there’s no reason to needlessly insult someone’s religion.

    Corkie, I’m not being a smarta** here, but I have to ask: what about needfully insulting a religion? I mean, one’s eyes should roll at “Xenu”. And Islam (“submit”) has always been – at best – a criminal protection racket from the very start.

    All belief systems are not equal.

  34. #34
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm, b-cat said:

    However, there’s no reason to needlessly insult someone’s religion.

    I think efforts should be made to minimize the insults when expressing your views.

    I agree. I have been wrong. I apologize to any mohamaddens who might have taken offence by any comparisons by me of Mohammed to a mad dog. Even if it is a completely accurate depiction. Even if he and his followers wish to wash the world in blood. Even if Mohammed is a war-mongering child rapist.

  35. #35
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:17 pm, Romeo13 said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:12 pm, Surveyor said:

    May I suggest…

    MohToons?

  36. #36
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm, wildcat84 said:

    I will continue to insult islam until it ceases to be an international organization that endorses, enables and carries out terrorism and oppression.

  37. #37
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:24 pm, Romeo13 said:

    I will continue to insult anything I wish… including religion…

    After all, if God didn’t have a sense of humor, explain the Dodo Bird… and… the Human Race.

    Not sure if he originated it, but I remember George Burns saying “God is a stand up comedian, playing to an audience whose afraid to laugh”…

  38. #38
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:28 pm, purplepeep said:

    Romeo13 said:

    May I suggest…

    MohToons?

    LOL, remember the line from the running skit of the 90s tv show “In Living Color” – “Mo’ money, mo’ money, mo’ money!” ?

  39. #39
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:30 pm, purplepeep said:

    For folks unfamiliar with the aforementioned “Xenu”.

  40. #40
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:38 pm, corkie said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:16 pm, purplepeep said:

    Corkie, I’m not being a smarta** here, but I have to ask: what about needfully insulting a religion?

    I tried to word my comment very carefully. I wasn’t condemning needfully insulting a religion – if it is, in fact, a needful insult.

    I certainly understand that some people are irrationally sensitive, so their definition of insult or offensive may be irrational and therefore ignored.

    But I think that needful insults should be carefully scrutinized.

  41. #41
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:43 pm, palani said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 11:18 am, swede said:
    Meanwhile, after caving to the Islamists, courageous Comedy Central is preparing a series on Jesus knowing of course that Christians will make a big stink – jacking their ratings – but will not threaten anyone. The Christian response to this should just be, “Comedy who? Next.”

    I’m not so sure that Comedy Central caved. To me, the intentionally intrusive “censored” placard imposed over the image of cartoon Mohammed seemed in keeping with the often irreverent mockings of South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

  42. #42
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:44 pm, corkie said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:19 pm, wildcat84 said:

    I will continue to insult islam until it ceases to be an international organization that endorses, enables and carries out terrorism and oppression.

    OK, but I hope that your insults aren’t needless and don’t degrade the effectiveness of MM’s messages.

  43. #43
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:46 pm, Jeddite said:

    “What you get is a mob deciding what can be discussed at the university,”

    The USA already has that [growing] problem, and it’s not even coming from outrageously outraged muslims.

  44. #44
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:48 pm, iamsaved said:

    Insult Islam? That’s a one way street for Muslims. They feign indignation at any action that they feel maligns their religion and uses that excuse to condemn and threaten but what happens when they do the same?

    Maybe when they start showing respect for other religions, respect will be shown to theirs. And by respect, I don’t mean by means of fear and duress.

    Here’s what they did to the Christian Church of the Nativity back in 2002.

    That being said, one does not fight evil with evil. It’s a pity that theirs is a religion that has Satan as it’s god. Talk about lost sheep. Boy, have they ever been deceived.

  45. #45
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:48 pm, DBNinKY said:

    From fresco rage to book rage to film rage to beauty pageant rage to Koran-dropping rage to cartoon rage to Pope rage, to ceramic Mohammed bobbleheads, it never ends.

    Ironic: Islam wants to censor and control the world’s media – and is doing a darn successful job at it, if Comedy Central is any example – yet Hollywood and the US media are fixated with depicting Christianity and Judaism-Israel as violently intolerant, bigoted and racist.

  46. #46
    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:53 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I am doing my part. I met my sister’s lezzie partner back at the beginning of January. Upon discussion with her, I found out that she teaches many muslim students and has ample respect for their religion and culture.

    I didn’t stay silent. I asked her what she thought would happen to her if she taught in a muslim country and introduced my sister as her partner to her muslim students, their parents or one of their religious schools she would likely be teaching in. I answered the question for her, telling her that she would likely be fired, harassed, threatened and possibly be the victim of assault and battery.

    When I told her that I once stopped being friends with someone when I found out they were of the muslim faith, she couldn’t believe that people like me existed. I replied, there are people much more evil than me, that is what I am trying to tell you regarding the muslims.

  47. #47
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:00 pm, Valiant said:

    Reminds me of Tancredo coming to UNC-Chapel Hill.

  48. #48
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:02 pm, purplepeep said:

    corkie said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:16 pm, purplepeep said:

    Corkie, I’m not being a smarta** here, but I have to ask: what about needfully insulting a religion?

    I tried to word my comment very carefully.

    I know you are a careful (good sense, not snotty) person, Corkie. I was impressed that you were concerned about your grammar/spelling in a recent comment on some recent topic. Many of us just wing it, grammar be damned. : )

    I wasn’t condemning needfully insulting a religion – if it is, in fact, a needful insult.

    I certainly understand that some people are irrationally sensitive, so their definition of insult or offensive may be irrational and therefore ignored.

    But I think that needful insults should be carefully scrutinized.

    I don’t think that’s unreasonable. And for me – and I suspect some others – it’s more disgust and dismissal than just venting insults. And sometimes we engage in a bit of mockish fun in what you may view as thoughtless insults.

    I like to think I’m well versed in comparative religion, though there are certainly those better versed than I. But, at any rate, I do make certain differentiations based on my criteria.

    So I believe where we may differ – and I imagine it’s an area where it’s an “agree to disagree” thing – is in what we consider the term “religion” to encompass.

    I would think of it as comparing the Hope Diamond to cheap “diamond-like” glass knockoffs sold on QVC, if that makes sense.

  49. #49
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:04 pm, rambler said:

    It should be a pig body instead.

  50. #50
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:06 pm, 123upnorth said:

    If you really want to get the muslims rage going, draw a picture of Mohammed having same-sex discretions.

    Remember, Iamadinerjacket came to America and stated that Iran doesn’t have any homosexuals.

  51. #51
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:08 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The best view of an enraged Muslim is through your sight reticle.

  52. #52
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:09 pm, 123upnorth said:

    Yeah, but up here in the north, we can only carry guns directly to the shooting range and must keep them disassembled when at home.

  53. #53
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:10 pm, in_awe said:

    Such a speech would not be allowed to take place on a college campus in the U.S. We already have seen fearful American university publishing houses refuse to publish books containing the cartoons. As a nation we are already submitting to Islamofacists a little bit at a time.

  54. #54
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:13 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I heard that there will be a massive Islamic Temple that is going to go up in and around the site of 9/11. Anyone know if that is true?

    If that does take place, America will go down a slippery slope to Islamification.

  55. #55
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:14 pm, pueblo1032 said:

    Ahhh, the cult is still upset about the CARTOONS…Makes one wonder if the CARTOONS have turned “MODERATE” MUSLIMS into JIHADISTS, as the BRITISH NEWS BIMBETTE said airport screening is doing today??? Remember, there are many religions in the world, but only one “RELIGION OF PEACE”!!!

  56. #56
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:15 pm, sbw999 said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:11 pm, corkie said:

    But I think that efforts to refuse submission and surrender will be much more effective if they are done in a less offensive manner.

    Beheadings and other assorted acts of mayhem in the name of one’s god offends me. Free speech does not. People in this forum, and in fact all over the country, are sick of walking on eggshells when it comes to Islam. People are just saying what they think, on the basis of facts. I am not a politician; just a person with no axe to grind, that does however call a spade a spade. If it’s too much for your sensibilities, perhaps a less offensive forum should be in your future.

  57. #57
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:26 pm, 123upnorth said:

    If Islam does control America one day, look on the bright side.

    1. No liberal ideology in politics

    2. You won’t have to listen to or watch Brittney spears songs on telivision/radio.

    3. Men won’t even have to make an effort in finding a beautiful woman as each man will be assigned his rightful property when he reaches 18.

    4. Factory workers will be given an extra number of breaks each day in order to worship Allah.

    5. All Divorce initiated by woman will come to an end.

    6. Family Court backlogs would be reduced as the only thing that men have to do to end a marriage is say “I divorce you” three times.

    7. The number of Starbucks will quickly dwindle as socializing between the sexes unaccompanied by a chaperone will be forbidden.

    8. Credit card companies will have to forgive all outstanding debts as interest charges is seen as evil and unislamic.

    9. You won’t be inundated with annoying celebrity ads pushing the promise of weight watchers and Jenny Craig programs as all woman will be forced to wear full burqas.

    10. Men will never have to hear their wives brag about their better sense of direction since women won’t be aloud to drive and therefore will have no knowledge of said direction with which to boast.

  58. #58
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:27 pm, Speakup said:

    Interesting that the left so ardently supports and apologizes for violent, oppressive Islam when the religion embodies the antithesis of every do gooder liberal mantra and program the left has forced on this country.

    Does liberalism accept the human rights violation of brutally removing a young girls private parts in order to make them slaves?

  59. #59
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:32 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:26 pm, 123upnorth said:

    And… you don’t have to worry about shaving EVER!

  60. #60
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:33 pm, corkie said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:15 pm, sbw999 said:

    If it’s too much for your sensibilities

    Not even close.

    I’m not offended by any of the insults at all. I just think many of them, not all, are counterproductive.

    People are just saying what they think, on the basis of facts. I am not a politician; just a person with no axe to grind, that does however call a spade a spade.

    This is a very reasonable approach.

    But I don’t think pig jokes are made “on the basis of the facts.” And I don’t think sexual jokes are calling a spake a spade.

    People in this forum, and in fact all over the country, are sick of walking on eggshells when it comes to Islam.

    I never suggested that you walk on eggshells. I’ve specifically stated that irrational sensitivities should be ignored.

    I merely suggested that you don’t trample on someone’s religion needlessly and that you carefully scrutinize the need to trample.

  61. #61
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, purplepeep said:

    sbw999 said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 12:11 pm, corkie said:

    But I think that efforts to refuse submission and surrender will be much more effective if they are done in a less offensive manner.

    Beheadings and other assorted acts of mayhem in the name of one’s god offends me. Free speech does not. People in this forum, and in fact all over the country, are sick of walking on eggshells when it comes to Islam. People are just saying what they think, on the basis of facts. I am not a politician; just a person with no axe to grind, that does however call a spade a spade.

    I sympathize with the above, sbw, but on this:

    If it’s too much for your sensibilities, perhaps a less offensive forum should be in your future.

    Corkie is just expressing her opinion and she makes a good point about ignorant rantings clouding real issues.

    Besides if you are honest about “Free speech” not offending you, then you should be able to handle a person exercising her free speech. If you cannot handle it, wouldn’t it be a more correct observation that you are in need of some place that is not too hard on “your sensibilities”? It works both ways or not at all – gander/goose.

  62. #62
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I remember my sister’s friend, who was muslim. When this friend went to school, she had to cover all her hair and was forbidden to wear make-up. She also was not allowed to talk to boys.

    Now, she was absolutely beautiful. I mean hotter than volcanic lava and everybody was fond of her as peoople generally want to interact with more attractive people.

    Anyway, as soon as she got to school, she would let her hair down, put on make-up, change into a sexy outfit etc. When her brother started to attend her school in 9th grade, if he was in disagreement with his sister over something unrelated and felt motivated to do so, he would tell her father about her behaviour. Many times she would refuse to go home and stay with a friend for fear of the beatings she knew she would receive from the fallout.

    Funny thing though, her brother could basically do whatever he wanted to without consequence. I guess that’s because he was born with different anatomy – you know how that works with Islam.

  63. #63
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:39 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Speakup said:

    Interesting that the left so ardently supports and apologizes for violent, oppressive Islam when the religion embodies the antithesis of every do gooder liberal mantra and program the left has forced on this country.

    Speakup, they avoid criticizing groups like this in the hopes that , to borrow an often used quote, “They’ll be eaten last”.

    In other words, they are simply cowards.

    They only attack those that they know they are safe from. Such as our military, the catholic church, etc. But they would not dare engage in the same protests on the streets of Iran, Pakistan or Afghanistan.

  64. #64
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:41 pm, 123upnorth said:

    They also don’t target countries like China and everyone knows why. The Chinese would go in and bomb them until there were no muslims left.

  65. #65
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:47 pm, purplepeep said:

    NJ-Aviator said:

    Speakup said:

    Interesting that the left so ardently supports and apologizes for violent, oppressive Islam when the religion embodies the antithesis of every do gooder liberal mantra and program the left has forced on this country.

    Speakup, they avoid criticizing groups like this in the hopes that , to borrow an often used quote, “They’ll be eaten last”.

    In other words, they are simply cowards.

    I think it’s only partly that, NJ-A, but I believe most of it is due to the extremely naive, kumbaya view of the world to which most liberals adhere.

  66. #66
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:50 pm, purplepeep said:

    123upnorth said:

    They also don’t target countries like China and everyone knows why. The Chinese would go in and bomb them until there were no muslims left.

    The scuttlebut is that the Russians wrap the bodies of Islamic terrorists in pigskin – thus preventing them from entering Paradise, getting the virgins and all.

    I like it as SOP.

  67. #67
    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:56 pm, 123upnorth said:

    I wish I could get a job punishing muslim terrorist once caught. There are all sorts of things I would like to do to them. I don’t speak Russian though. Of course I do speak Islam: no virgins for you, your father is gay, your half brother is a goat, your mom was a hooker etc.

  68. #68
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:01 pm, 123upnorth said:

    On a related note, did you notice how there has been very little outrage with Russia executing the Somali pirates who tried to hold that Russian ship. Proves your point NJ and purplepeep. Weaknesses is not a strategy. Someone should tell the Con-man-in-Chief.

  69. #69
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:06 pm, corkie said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:01 pm, 123upnorth said:

    On a related note, did you notice how there has been very little outrage with Russia executing the Somali pirates who tried to hold that Russian ship.

    Strangely, Somali pirates will soon stop attacking ships with cyrillic names.

  70. #70
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:06 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    purplepeep said:

    I think it’s only partly that, NJ-A, but I believe most of it is due to the extremely naive, kumbaya view of the world to which most liberals adhere.

    Yes, I would agree.

  71. #71
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:24 pm, spaceycakes said:

    And… you don’t have to worry about shaving EVER!

    and that’s just the women.

  72. #72
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:25 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    If anyone here sells a T-shirt with caninemohammed I will order a dozen, various sizes.

    ” “I will not submit/surrender”” but being a good sport I will give them a five second lead-generous type I am.

    ===
    Let your sidearm be like Master Card: Don’t Leave home without it.
    An Armed Society is a polite society.

  73. #73
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:25 pm, sbw999 said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, purplepeep said:

    When somebody (as I interpreted it) is telling other people not to say something because they find it objectionable or offensive on this forum, then it makes sense to suggest that they go someplace where people stating what is on their minds cannot offend them. I didn’t tell her that she had no right to state it here or anyplace else. But there is an obvious difference between saying: “Islam is a violent religion” versus “dont say that Islam is a violent religion because that is offensive”. Both are free speech, but the second seeks to curtail the first person from exercising it. But this is much ado over..well not much. Perhaps I misunderstood Corkie. She explained herself very well in her responsive post.

  74. #74
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:39 pm, corkie said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:25 pm, sbw999 said:

    But there is an obvious difference between saying: “Islam is a violent religion” versus “dont say that Islam is a violent religion because that is offensive”

    It seems as if you now understand that I wasn’t saying the latter.

  75. #75
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:42 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    sbw999 said:
    When somebody (as I interpreted it) is telling other people not to say something because they find it objectionable or offensive on this forum, then it makes sense to suggest that they go someplace where people stating what is on their minds cannot offend them.

    But do not forget:

    The Perpetually Peeved don’t want to go somewhere else-they want you do agree with them; not agreeing with the Perpetually Peeved is Hate Speech.

    ===
    An Armed Society is a polite society.

  76. #76
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:45 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    And… you don’t have to worry about shaving EVER!

    And except for the manditory religious footwashing fettish – you don’t have to worry about hygene EVER!!!

  77. #77
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:47 pm, Gorebot said:

    If I were mega-wealthy, I’d anonymously hire a starving artist to do a rendering of Mohammed in a Big Jar of Urine.

    I would then DEMAND that the National Endowment for the Arts provide a GRANT so that the finished piece would be displayed in a gallery at the New York Museum of Fine Arts.

    After allowing enough time for all the limp-noodled excuses, weasal words, and media frothing to die down, I would then purchase a full page in the NY Times, presenting the blatant double-standard of liberal elitists everywhere.

  78. #78
    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:52 pm, purplepeep said:

    sbw999 said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, purplepeep said:

    When somebody (as I interpreted it) is telling other people not to say something because they find it objectionable or offensive on this forum

    Perhaps I misunderstood Corkie. She explained herself very well in her responsive post.

    Yeah, I think perhaps you might have read a bit more into what Corkie wrote than what she intended.

    I believe she was referring more to hateful uniformed, ignorant rants.

    For example: “Mohammed was a pedophile”. It is correct that one of his wives was young, 9-10 years of age. In that time, there was no “age of consent” or marriage laws; females were pretty much chattel. i.e. Solomon had at least 1,000 concubines ( a harem) – although the ages of this multitude of girls is unknown, it was common for young girls to be given in marriage or as girls “on the side”. Yet Solomon is revered as a wise and great man. This carries over to the New Testament era; Mary was likely 13 or 14 when she gave birth to Jesus.

    I have no qualms in saying “Mo” was a disgusting thug who invented a “religion” based on a bastardization of Hebrew & Christian scripture mixed with myths of a regional desert moon deity, but folks really don’t need to embellish things to make him more awful. It would be like saying Hitler enjoyed eating Jewish babies – the objective, historical truths are awful enough.

  79. #79
    On May 12th, 2010 at 3:05 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    I believe she was referring more to hateful uniformed, ignorant rants.

    Yes, and what better than a Government run Ministry of Truth to protect the proletariat from hateful uniformed, ignorant rants! Only useful, helpful Government Ministry of Truth information will be allowed. Your government will protect you from hateful uniformed, ignorant rants and it does not matter how many of us they have to kill to do so. Private lives as is private property is not conducive to the collective.

    Bill Ayres was more prophet than fool.

    ===
    Let your sidearm be like Master Card:
    Don’t Leave home without it.

  80. #80
    On May 12th, 2010 at 3:06 pm, sbw999 said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:39 pm, corkie said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:25 pm, sbw999 said:

    It seems as if you now understand that I wasn’t saying the latter.

    Of course, I shall take you at your word. :o

  81. #81
    On May 12th, 2010 at 3:14 pm, rfjjulie said:

    Speak up said: Does liberalism accept the human rights violation of brutally removing a young girls private parts in order to make them slaves?

    Evidently they do. I read on the American Thinker on Monday that the AAP (American Assoc. of Pediatrics) is condoning a “nick” version of this to appease the camel jockies who are already here.

  82. #82
    On May 12th, 2010 at 3:17 pm, purplepeep said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    I believe she was referring more to hateful uniformed, ignorant rants.

    Yes, and what better than a Government run Ministry of Truth to protect the proletariat from hateful uniformed, ignorant rants!

    Somehow I don’t imagine Corkie is the “Minister” of any government agency, AZN.

    Also, if one actually believes that an uniformed, ignorant tirade = fact, then Tea Party folks have a whole lot of things to work on – racism, McVeigh-ism, xenophobia, violence and so on.

  83. #83
    On May 12th, 2010 at 3:29 pm, bjc said:

    They never forget and they never forgive. Which is why we must never submit.

    *Don’t worry, I will never submit to their dog squeeze prophet, or their 7th century invented religion of death cult savages; It will probably take a gigantic catastrophe(the Middle East will likely be the epicenter) for people to finally realize there is no compatability between this invented religion from a throwback era and the civilized world in total; No how, no way, never; Believe it or suffer immensely!

  84. #84
    On May 12th, 2010 at 3:31 pm, vatodio said:

    Muslims are the violent Nomads.

    Israel, Europe, America, Middle East, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Russian-Chechnya, Thailand (a predominantly Buddhist country),…if there is a religious violence anywhere in the world, you can bet that it involves Muslims.
    Almost always, the Muslims are the aggressors.

    Obama can not see the Muslim problem because he himself is born Muslim (and No, he has not converted to Christianity. Sitting in Wright’s church was an act of political expediency). Even in his own books – supposedly written by himself – his sympathies and admiration for his father (a Muslim) are abundantly more than for his white mother (a Christian).

    Liberal Left – the media and Hollywood – sees the problem, but they are afraid of their own lives.

    The Muslim scholars (if there are any) are phonies: very quick to condemn Muslim profiling, but nowhere to be seen when their fanatic wing carry out violent acts.

    The solution to the Muslim menace is: Many more Vilks.
    These nomads will not change their behavior unless dealt with aggressive push back.

    Counter violence may not be the best answer.
    Appeasement is definitely not the answer.

  85. #85
    On May 12th, 2010 at 4:24 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Yes, and what better than a Government run Ministry of Truth to protect the proletariat from hateful uniformed, ignorant rants

    Turn in your iPods and Blackberrys and computers – Obama thinks they are dangerous. To his career maybe. BTW, the liar in chief claims he doesn’t know how to operate them, even though he’s a Crackberry addict and avid iPod user.

  86. #86
    On May 12th, 2010 at 5:14 pm, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

    There is an old Marvel comic, I think, which depicts Mohammed in it also.

    It is from the early 70s, should Stan Lee and the art team be worried.

    Or is their hatred not retroactive?

  87. #87
    On May 12th, 2010 at 6:01 pm, zorro said:

    I am sick of Muslim indignation. They kill and kill and kill and kill then whine when someone has the guts to ridicule them.

    Dear Muslim brothers, I am a Christian and I will never submit.

  88. #88
    On May 12th, 2010 at 6:17 pm, corkie said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 2:47 pm, Gorebot said:

    I’d anonymously hire a starving artist to do a rendering of Mohammed in a Big Jar of Urine.

    I would be willing to defend, to the death, your right to do this.

    But I don’t think you should based on what you’ve written.

    Perhaps surprising though, I do support the recent efforts of the South Park producers. Failure to poke fun at Islam ruins their credibility to poke fun at other religions – which makes their show less funny – which threatens their product.

    I don’t necessarily think someone should make a living poking fun at religions, but it’s irrational for anyone to be significantly offended by equal opportunity chaffing.

    So: 1) I think there is a difference between South Park jest and artistic expressions which submerge religious symbols in urine; and 2) I would be less inclined to discourage your proposed action if you have already funded projects which disrespect other religious symbols (since selective omission of disrespect can be construed as respect).

  89. #89
    On May 12th, 2010 at 6:43 pm, thejim said:

    UHHH, As to Muslims avoiding China; China does have Muslim problems periodically. They are called Uighurs, and China’s Central Government handles them just like they do any other desenter; Execution.

  90. #90
    On May 12th, 2010 at 7:18 pm, Speakup said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:39 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 1:47 pm, purplepeep said:

    On May 12th, 2010 at 3:14 pm, rfjjulie said:

    Its amazing how flexible or non existent really, the Karl Marx progeny’s principles are, they show us how little they revere our Constitution, to treat what’s written in stone as no better than liberal silly putty.

  91. #91
    On May 12th, 2010 at 7:48 pm, Leatherneck said:

    Allah is one of 360 false gods at the kabba. He was known as the moon god. Notice the moon on Mosques.

    Mohammad enjoyed murder, and rape. Those who follow Mohammad are called extremists. The true extremists within Islam are the peaceful ones. They are called Apostates.

  92. #92
    On May 12th, 2010 at 9:22 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Remember: The Religion of Perpetual Outrage hates all infidels. The targeting of Mohammed cartoonists is a lingering pretext to demonstrate that centuries-old, Koran-inspired hatred. If it isn’t cartoons, it’s always something else. From fresco rage to book rage to film rage to beauty pageant rage to Koran-dropping rage to cartoon rage to Pope rage, to ceramic Mohammed bobbleheads, it never ends.

    They never forget and they never forgive. Which is why we must never submit.

    Lan astaslem: Arabic for “I will not submit/surrender”

    For jihadists, any scape goat excuse will do to cover for their true motivation… the Koran itself.

    Question: When did unprovoked Muslim terrorism against the U.S.A. begin?

    Answer: Before our first President even took office.

    Lan astaslem

  93. #93
    On May 12th, 2010 at 9:25 pm, 123upnorth said:

    “For jihadists, any scape goat excuse will do to cover for their true motivation… the Koran itself.”

    Sorry Redpill, but I just have to correct you. You comment should read

    For jihadists, any goat will do.

  94. #94
    On May 12th, 2010 at 9:36 pm, TanyaB said:

    If there are supposed to be no pictures of Mohammed. How in the world do they know the face on the dog was him?
    Looks like most of the Muslims you see walking around in Afganistan to me.

  95. #95
    On May 12th, 2010 at 10:25 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Make offensive statements about Jesus of Nazareth and Christians will get upset and pray for you.

    Make offensive statemtns about Mohamed and Muslims will get upset and hunt you down and murder you in the streets.

    Remind me again why leftists hate and revile Christians and pander to Muslims?

  96. #96
    On May 12th, 2010 at 11:29 pm, lonewolf said:

    The hold that Islam has on Muslims is mystifying.
    I published a book by and Iranian woman who fled to Canada to escape a death sentence for speaking out against the Iranian theocracy.
    This woman has had a terrible life; youngest child of her father’s two families, survived the revolution and Iran/Iraq war at ground level in the war zone, raped at 12 by her 20 year old brother, kidnapped from street by secret police, jumped from speeding car, hid among chador clad female students at university while sympathetic teacher and embassy personnell secured visa for her to fly to France, train to Amsterdam where she acquired black market documents that enabled her to fly to Canada where she sought asylum and eventual citizenship.
    She relocated to Washington, DC and has become a leading expatriate opponent of the Iranian theocracy,has appeared on every national TV and radio show, is a consultant to Congress and Senate on Islam and Middle East politics and culture.
    Devout Muslim, made Haji at 14, no longer wears chador or scarf but follows prescribed diet and prayers.
    This is an intelligent, educated, multi-lingual woman who receives death threats from Iranian hardliners for publicly denouncing Islamic terrorists. She is a good person in every way.
    The mystery is: Although she does not maintain the murderous and perverted acts ascribed to Mohammed would be acceptable today, she still worships him and, by tortured reasoning, trys to explain and justify them in the context of their time.

  97. #97
    On May 12th, 2010 at 11:30 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    thejim said:
    UHHH, As to Muslims avoiding China; China does have Muslim problems periodically. They are called Uighurs, and China’s Central Government handles them just like they do any other desenter; Execution.

    Yes, and when we caught one on the battlefield fighting Americans, he told the CIA he had gone to Tora Bora “looking for work” which was enough for the lefties to claim that he shouldn’t be sent back to the Chinese…

  98. #98
    On May 13th, 2010 at 12:03 am, rightwingrocker said:

    If anyone here sells a T-shirt with caninemohammed I will order a dozen, various sizes.

    I can arrange that I think …

    I’m sure I’d have to get the artist’s permission first, but please swing by my blog and let me know if you are serious. I could get on this pretty nicely …

    HAHAHA

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  99. #99
    On May 13th, 2010 at 12:04 am, feebiebabe said:

    I think the recent event at the lecture conducted by David Horowitz deserves a little play time…

  100. #100
    On May 13th, 2010 at 12:13 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On May 13th, 2010 at 12:04 am, feebiebabe said:

    I think the recent event at the lecture conducted by David Horowitz deserves a little play time…

    Indeed. But which side would be accused of “hate speech” by the Obama administration?

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