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1. #101
   On May 13th, 2010 at 10:36 pm, granite said:

   On May 13th, 2010 at 11:05 am, iamsaved said:

   I don’t believe that is correct.

   You’re ceertainly entitled to your opinion.

   You left out the second part of my statement;, but you’re still entitled.

2. #102
   On May 13th, 2010 at 11:44 pm, chapoutier said:

   Chap, you don’t have to falsely profess your disagreement with her “For it.” comment. If you are a hardcore liberal, as you seem to be based upon your consistent defense of all things Obama initiated, you might as well just man-up.

   Interestingly, 123upnorth, you know who else are pretty much hardcore liberals?

   Jewish people.

   Oddly enough, though, I don’t see a whole lot of them manning up to what is surely the obvious truth of their support for their own genocide.

   Curious.

3. #103
   On May 14th, 2010 at 12:07 am, vickisoup said:

   I don’t think of you, chapoutier, as a hardcore liberal. I experience you more as an earnest contrarian. Are you a hardcore liberal?

4. #104
   On May 14th, 2010 at 12:15 am, chapoutier said:

   I don’t think of you, chapoutier, as a hardcore liberal. I experience you more as an earnest contrarian.

   Hell no! I am a hardcore liberal!

   Or am I only saying that because I am a contrarian?

5. #105
   On May 14th, 2010 at 12:55 am, corkie said:

   On May 14th, 2010 at 12:15 am, chapoutier said:

   Hell no! I am a hardcore liberal!

   You’re a poor excuse for a hardcore liberal.

6. #106
   On May 14th, 2010 at 8:37 am, iamsaved said:

   granite:
   I believe we (Christians and Jews) are all Jews.

   Jews are Jews who do not believe that the Messiah has come yet.

   Christians are Jews who believe that Jesus was the Christ…the Messiah.

   Nothing to split a church over.

   It just seemed your last statement above wasn’t completely accurate if you read scripture.

   A gentile turned Christian is not a Jew and will never be. He/She is a new creation in Christ. A Jew who becomes a Christian is a new creation in Christ. A Jew is a Jew who is still waiting for the Messiah if that Jew is a religiously devout Jew. A non-religious Jew probably isn’t waiting for anything.

   That being said, No offense meant.

7. #107
   On May 14th, 2010 at 8:40 am, Misscheryl said:

   Hell no! I am a hardcore liberal!
   You’re a poor excuse for a hardcore liberal.

   I’ve told Chap the same thing.

8. #108
   On May 14th, 2010 at 9:08 am, Misscheryl said:

   IMHO iamsaved and Granite – I think you are both right. Because Christianity is the fulfillment of ancient Hebrew law, in that sense Christians would be included in that, but we will never ethnically be Jews. I didn’t know this but my priest told me 80% of Jews in modern Israel are athiest..WOW!

9. #109
   On May 14th, 2010 at 9:39 am, spaceycakes said:

   Jewish people tend to be left of center due to a few things; the main one being an aversion to the ‘religious right’.

10. #110
    On May 14th, 2010 at 9:41 am, spaceycakes said:

    A non-religious Jew probably isn’t waiting for anything.

    80% of Jews in modern Israel are athiest.

    Yet they are surrounded by other ‘religious’ groups that want every one of them dead. What does that tell you about the opposition?

11. #111
    On May 14th, 2010 at 10:16 am, GladzKravtz said:

    80% of Jews in modern Israel are athiest.

    It’s sad too. ‘Mr.Kravtz’ travels overseas regularly on business and associates with many Israelis. Most (of his associates) are not religious and most said that GWB was the best friend their country ever had. And in the same sentence, all are pleased with Obama because they just don’t like the tension.
    I’m reading the Bible, one chapter at a time. I’m in Numbers. So far, it looks (to me) that the Jews of today haven’t changed much. It’s been an eye-opener.

12. #112
    On May 14th, 2010 at 10:37 am, Misscheryl said:

    GK One thing for sure, you probably know already – it’s all Biblical and it’s all been prophesied. God is in His heavens.

13. #113
    On May 14th, 2010 at 11:07 am, corkie said:

    On May 14th, 2010 at 8:37 am, iamsaved said:

    If a Jew suddenly believes that Jesus was the messiah, then what Judaistic beliefs, if any, will they be forced to abandon?

14. #114
    On May 14th, 2010 at 11:52 am, thetoysurgeon said:

    Muslims fought for Hitler. Take the 13th SS “Hancshar” division for instance. Birds of a feather murder together. Muslims are not supposed to turn in their fellow muslims, no matter what they do. See the Koran. This country is now a collection of gangsters, radical muslims, socialists and communists. They have had plenty of time to see our ways and infiltrate every aspect of our lives and country, because the american people have been to fat, dumb and happy to see it. They have made PC status quo so we can’t say anything or we will be branded racists or thrown in jail for hate speech. The day of reckoning is fast approaching.

15. #115
    On May 15th, 2010 at 1:39 am, TooMuchTime said:

    Interestingly…you know who else are pretty much hardcore liberals?

    Jewish people.

    Most of that has to do with education. This country is turning out socialists faster than China is turning out iPhones.

    I’m reading the Bible, one chapter at a time. I’m in Numbers. So far, it looks (to me) that the Jews of today haven’t changed much. It’s been an eye-opener.

    Maybe it’s a historical thing. Jews in this country accept the liberal socialism that embraces radical fascist islam; they very people that want to exterminate the Jews.

    Look at this country. When times get rough, we always seem to elect socialists because it sounds so good. Only to find out socialism promises everything and delivers nothing. And we never seem to learn.

16. #116
    On May 15th, 2010 at 11:11 am, chapoutier said:

    Most of that has to do with education. This country is turning out socialists faster than China is turning out iPhones.

    Jews have voted heavily Democrat since at 1928.

    But maybe you think you know better than they do about their own self interests?

17. #117
    On May 15th, 2010 at 8:09 pm, Jamson64 said:

    But maybe you think you know better than they do about their own self interests?

    They are here and not in Israel-such inane talk.

18. #118
    On May 15th, 2010 at 8:38 pm, chapoutier said:

    Oh, I see Jamson.

    You think radical Muslims only hate Israeli Jews.

    Oooookay.

19. #119
    On May 16th, 2010 at 6:40 pm, corkie said:

    On May 15th, 2010 at 11:11 am, chapoutier said:

    But maybe you think you know better than they do about their own self interests?

    I have no doubt that I do.

    Why do you ask?

20. #120
    On May 16th, 2010 at 6:47 pm, chapoutier said:

    I have no doubt that I do.

    Why do you ask?

    Curious as to why, as a people, you think they make poor decisions.

    Genetics?
    Poor upbringing?

21. #121
    On May 17th, 2010 at 2:04 am, corkie said:

    On May 16th, 2010 at 6:47 pm, chapoutier said:

    Curious as to why, as a people, you think they make poor decisions.

    Whatever it is that led them to be “pretty much hardcore liberals” if they are.

22. #122
    On May 17th, 2010 at 9:26 am, chapoutier said:

    Whatever it is that led them to be “pretty much hardcore liberals” if they are.

    Oh come now… have the courage of your convictions.

    Maybe it is just lack of access to decent educational opportunities. Perhaps what we need are some charter school programs in the most blighted Jewish neighborhoods so they too can someday grow up to be doctors and lawyers. Conservative doctors and lawyers, I mean.

23. #123
    On May 17th, 2010 at 10:10 am, corkie said:

    On May 17th, 2010 at 9:26 am, chapoutier said:

    Oh come now… have the courage of your convictions.

    I’m very courageous about this conviction.

    I know better than “hardcore liberals” – all hardcore liberals – regardless of the reasons they became hardcore liberals.

24. #124
    On May 17th, 2010 at 10:30 am, corkie said:

    Just so you understand.

    My formula for this is y = x. Since I know x, I know y. There’s no reason for me to speculate about z.

    To answer your question about y, I merely had to know x.

    I’m very committed to the fact that this formula is accurate. My indifference about z doesn’t demonstrate a lack of commitment.

25. #125
    On May 17th, 2010 at 10:31 am, chapoutier said:

    I know better than “hardcore liberals” – all hardcore liberals – regardless of the reasons they became hardcore liberals.

    We’ve established that you do indeed believe so. But surely you must think that there is some inherent reason that Jewish people would be so self-destructive as to vote consistently for a party that so clearly hates them and wants the Muslims to murder them.

26. #126
    On May 17th, 2010 at 10:32 am, chapoutier said:

    My indifference about z doesn’t demonstrate a lack of commitment.

    You are indifferent as to why Jews, whom conservatives claim to love dearly, are self-hating?

27. #127
    On May 17th, 2010 at 11:37 am, corkie said:

    I’m sure there are many reason that hardcore liberals become hardcore liberals.

    Why does any hardcore liberal act so self-destructively?

    Btw, why are you claiming that Jews are self-hating?

28. #128
    On May 17th, 2010 at 11:49 am, chapoutier said:

    Why does any hardcore liberal act so self-destructively?

    I don’t really see how you could claim that other liberals act self-destructively. The average non-Jewish liberal is lazy and wants free things from the government via the hard work of others. That may be destructive to society, but is not immediately self destructive. But the Jewish liberal, on the other hand, is sleeping with the enemy. And for what? They are usually in the hard working camp. So why do they ally themselves with a group that loves their enemy and offers nothing in return?

    Btw, why are you claiming that Jews are self-hating?

    No, I am claiming you must believe they are. If the liberal hatred of Jews and support of Muslims is so self evident, then that would appear to be the only explanation.

29. #129
    On May 17th, 2010 at 12:08 pm, corkie said:

    On May 17th, 2010 at 11:49 am, chapoutier said:

    I don’t really see how you could claim that other liberals act self-destructively.

    I wasn’t surprised to read this.

    That may be destructive to society, but is not immediately self destructive.

    Taking crystal meth isn’t immediately self destructive either.

    No, I am claiming you must believe they are.

    Not true. None of my claims requires consideration of this issue at all.