Exposing the Grand Jihad

By Michelle Malkin  •  May 25, 2010 10:19 AM

Former top federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy has been one of America’s bravest and most stalwart warriors against Islamic jihad. He’s battled them in court. He’s exposed them here at home and around the globe.

His new book, The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America, is out today, and I urge you all to get a copy — and then share it with all your friends and family. If you care about the survival of our country, McCarthy’s work is must-read. He thoroughly demonstrates how our external Muslim enemies join with out internal Alinskyite enemies to destroy all we hold dear.

You can follow him on Twitter here.

His latest piece at NRO asks trenchantly as always: How long can a people remain a People when its leaders side with its foes? McCarthy writes:

A number of years ago, at some risk to myself and my family, I prosecuted savage jihadists who had made themselves enemies of the United States. I was lauded for doing so by the Clinton administration. Though I disagreed with that administration philosophically, and particularly with its conception of international terrorism as a crime problem, I praised the much-needed overhaul by which it put teeth in our counterterrorism laws. Our disagreement was over the best way to protect the country, not over the imperative that the country be protected. Our debate was the traditional Right-Left debate.

Moreover, as a New York lawyer who made no secret of having conservative views, I was a decided minority, even among my fellow prosecutors. But that only mattered in the occasional, friendly joust over a beer. Day to day, our politics had nothing to do with how we went about our jobs. At the office, I had friends across the ideological spectrum. Most of them were from the political left, but we liked and respected one another. The bond we shared, the sense that we were doing something good for the nation we all loved, was stronger than any ideological divisions.

Why does that matter now? Because, for the first time in our history, we have a president who would be much more comfortable sitting in a room with Bill Ayers than sitting in a room with me. We have a governing class that is too often comfortable with anti-American radicals, with rogue and dysfunctional governments that blame America for their problems, and with Muslim Brotherhood ideologues who abhor individual liberty, capitalism, freedom of conscience, and, in general, Western enlightenment. To this president and his government, I am the problem.

Bullseye.

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  1. #1
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:32 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Thank you Darlin’ Grand Jihad is on my Must Read list.

    May your flocks and herds prosper
    May all four wives be submissive
    Allie Opp Opp, opp opp

  2. #2
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:38 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    I guess Mr. McCarthy won’t be invited to join Obama at the traditional Arlington Cemetery Memorial Day ceremonies this weekend. Oh wait! Obama will be in Chicago on vacation this weekend! Probably to focus on the golf gulf oil spill.

  3. #3
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:40 am, zyzzyg said:

    ” . . . we have a president who would be much more comfortable sitting in a room with Bill Ayers than sitting in a room with me.”

    That is quite the assertion. How does McCarthy know what another person is comfortable with, or not with? Where are the facts to support such a suggestion? Has McCarthy ever been in a room with the President and observed his comfort level?

    Speculation, especially unsubstantiated speculation, is less than helpful.

  4. #4
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:42 am, flmom said:

    Read this yesterday, and felt he had nailed what is happening here in the US with this administration. The Democrat Party has been hijacked by people who do not have any affinity with this country. The only honest thing Obama has said is that he wants to fundamentally transform America, the fools that voted for him were not listening too well.

  5. #5
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:43 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Wiggy-Ziggy,

    Did Obama launch his political career with a fundraiser hosted at the home of Bill Ayers or Andy McCarthy?

    How many times has Obama been to Bill Ayer’s home? How many times has Obama been to Andy McCarthy’s home?

    How many corporate boards did Obama serve on with Bill Ayers? How many with Andy McCarthy?

    Are you starting to see a pattern here?

    Does that answer your “wiggy-ziggy” question of the day?

  6. #6
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:47 am, spaceycakes said:

    To this president and his government, I am the problem.

    And the solution!
    As hard working , taxpaying citizens, we are all the final solution.

  7. #7
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:47 am, flmom said:

    WarEagle82 said:

    Not to mention 20 years of “God D@*n America”.

  8. #8
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:47 am, granite said:

    That is quite the assertion. How does McCarthy know what another person is comfortable with, or not with?

    Blah, blah, blah,….

    Oh, shut up.

    Sorry, folks; just could help it….

  9. #9
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:49 am, SHoward said:

    Well, Ziggy, we know from watching his pressers that Obambi isn’t comfortable with tough questions. We know he doesn’t like being challenged, and always appears uncomfortable when he is.

    Now, who is more likely to challenge him, Terrorist Ayers or Lawyer McCarthy?

    I would reasonably conclude that Mr. McCarthy’s statement is accurate, even if there isn’t video evidence of it actually happening with the exact players mentioned.

  10. #10
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:56 am, granite said:

    The Democrat Party has been hijacked by people who do not have any affinity with this country.

    The older I get, and the more I learn, I more and more believe that this “hijacking” took place about 100 years or so ago.

    The Democrat Party has been hijacked

    may be a bit more accurate than the
    tiresome, taqiyya-BS:

    “Radicals have hijacked the peaceful religionideology of islam”;

    but, I’m afraid not by much.

  11. #11
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:59 am, TooMuchTime said:

    How long can a people remain a People when its leaders side with its foes?

    Not for long. Later Roman emperors would make pacts with the Visigoths in the hopes of keeping them out of Rome.

    That worked so well, didn’t it?

  12. #12
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:00 am, PhredE said:

    …On a related note (“Suspected Iranian arms dealer has Oregon connection”)

  13. #13
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:00 am, rightisright said:

    “Radicals have hijacked the peaceful religionideology of islam”;

    but, I’m afraid not by much.

    I don’t trust mooslimbs for the most part and trolls like ziggy and others on this site.

  14. #14
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:04 am, Flyoverman said:

    That is quite the assertion. How does McCarthy know what another person is comfortable with, or not with? Where are the facts to support such a suggestion?

    Z, on this one you need to change your pseudonymn to Rumpelstiltskin.

    His assertion is about as obvious as the sun rising daily in the East. You REALLY need to do some historidcal research on Obama. You REALLY need to look at the background of the people in key positions that Obama has appointed. You REALLY need to look at statements made in the past and since being appointed by those same people.
    Your REALLY need to look at Obama’s statements about Bill Ayers.

    Take it from a domestic terrorist military veteran who spends his days in bitterness clinging to my Bible and guns.

    OBTW, please note if you want to find the Dear Leader in the next few days, he has decided to skip out on Memorial Day to be in Chicago on vacation. It’s no big deal. He is only that the Commander in Chief during a war with troops for whom he is responsible in the field fighting, being wounded, being killed. That should be sufficient insight into this man’s core.

  15. #15
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:04 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Let’s not pick on Wiggy-Ziggy-unless you really want to.

    But as far as Bambi goes the only enemy is us.

    ===
    When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed.

  16. #16
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:07 am, tre said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:40 am, zyzzyg said

    Well, lemme see here. Obummer bows to the King of Saudi Arabia. But, with the Prime Minister of Israel, our only real ally in the mideast, Obummer leaves him sitting in a room while he, Obummer, has dinner with his family.

    Obummer goes to China, a country that has a terrible record on human rights. A country that persecutes Christians. And apologizes for the Arizona law.

    I have no trouble saying !!OBUMMER IS AN ENEMY OF THIS COUNTRY!!

  17. #17
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:08 am, DBNinKY said:

    To this president and his government, I am the problem.

    Which is why the administration (and NBC News) wants people like Mr. McCarthy, Sarah Palin, talk radio, Fox News, the Tea Party movement and conservatives in general, to just shut up and sit down.

  18. #18
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:13 am, dcbprime said:

    I wonder if the fellows at islam-watch.org will be reviewing McCarthy’s book.

  19. #19
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:13 am, flmom said:

    zyzzyg said:

    You have to admit that Obama didn’t seem too comfortable when Bret Baier interviewed him back in March.

  20. #20
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:14 am, iamsaved said:

    zyzzyg:

    That is quite the assertion. How does McCarthy know what another person is comfortable with, or not with? Where are the facts to support such a suggestion? Has McCarthy ever been in a room with the President and observed his comfort level?

    Ever been in a room where someone passed some odiferous gas? I don’t have to be in the room to know what the comfort level is for those in the immediate vicinity. One just knows from life’s little experiences over time. Sometimes truths and facts are self-evident without having to be spelled out.

  21. #21
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:16 am, Mister P said:

    . . . we have a president who would be much more comfortable sitting in a room with Bill Ayers than sitting in a room with me.”
    That is quite the assertion. How does McCarthy know what another person is comfortable with, or not with? Where are the facts to support such a suggestion? Has McCarthy ever been in a room with the President and observed his comfort level?

    It is not speculation. It is his impression. I think many of us have the same impression. Tell us what makes you feel differently?

  22. #22
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:18 am, Speakup said:

    The lesson is, its all jihad.

  23. #23
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:23 am, cabrerski said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:40 am, zyzzyg said:
    That is quite the assertion. How does McCarthy know what another person is comfortable with, or not with?

    Looks like someone ended his career in Philosophy at PHI 101. Consistent behaviors trend towards predictable results. For example: it is ten times more likely that you light candles and bow to Obama daily than I. This is called a reasonable assumption.

  24. #24
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:23 am, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:43 am, WarEagle82 said: #6

    Wiggy-Ziggy,

    Did Obama launch his political career with a fundraiser hosted at the home of Bill Ayers or Andy McCarthy?

    He launched his political career at a fundraiser at the home of Bill Ayers.

    How does that prove McCarthy’s assertion about Obama’s comfort level? Did McCarthy host a fundraiser for Obama, and did Obama walk out because he was uncomfortable?

    McCarthy is speculating and guessing.

    How many times has Obama been to Bill Ayer’s home? How many times has Obama been to Andy McCarthy’s home?

    I don’t know the answer to either question, however it is public knowledge that Obama has been to Ayers’ home at least once for a fundraiser. Has McCarthy ever invited Obama to his home for a fundraiser?

    How many corporate boards did Obama serve on with Bill Ayers? How many with Andy McCarthy?

    Again, I do not know the answer to those questions. Has McCarthy ever been asked to serve on a board with Obama? Did Obama resign from any board because McCarthy was on the that board, too?

    Where is the demonstrable proof that Obama would be more comfortable with one person over the other? Yes, Obama is comfortable with Ayers, yet there is no evidence that he would not also be comfortable with McCarthy.

    Are you starting to see a pattern here?

    Yes, you are weaving a tale from hole cloth.

    Where is the evidence that Obama would not be comfortable with McCarthy?

    Does that answer your “wiggy-ziggy” question of the day?

    Nope. You have not offered any comparative information to establish that Obama would be less comfortable with McCarthy (and niether does he) than with Ayers.

    I addressed all of your questions and hope you will address mine.

  25. #25
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:26 am, RedDog said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:04 am, Flyoverman said:
    OBTW, please note if you want to find the Dear Leader in the next few days, he has decided to skip out on Memorial Day to be in Chicago on vacation. It’s no big deal. He is only that the Commander in Chief during a war with troops for whom he is responsible in the field fighting, being wounded, being killed. That should be sufficient insight into this man’s core.

    Well said. I was appalled when I read of Pocket Lenin’s plans for the weekend. He is actually quite predictable, very comfortable and consistent in his treasonous skin. These creatures must be removed from power at all costs.

    Listened to McCarthy on Hannity radio last night. This guy is the real deal – very succinct and direct in his conversation. He hits the mark with every word. He clearly recognizes the danger posed by the Marxian Socialists in control of our country.

  26. #26
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:26 am, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:47 am, granite said: #9

    Blah, blah, blah,….

    Oh, shut up.

    Sorry, folks; just could help it….

    Another typical liberal response to a simple question.

  27. #27
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:30 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Well, wiggy-zyggy has been drinking from the Obama kool-aid bucket rather early today…

    And this clown claims to be a Republican from Maryland. Go figure.

    Wiggy-zyggy wouldn’t recognize a 2×4 if it was embedded in his forehead.

    “Clueless” doesn’t begin to describe it.

  28. #28
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:32 am, spaceycakes said:

    For the love of all that’s holy, people, don’t do it!

  29. #29
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:37 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    Islam is the problem, denial only deepens the danger.

    Read the Koran. The original terrorism manual.

  30. #30
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:39 am, granite said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:30 am, WarEagle82 said:

    Thank you.
    You saved me from a waste of time, trouble, effort, oxygen,…life.

  31. #31
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:41 am, RedDog said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:23 am, zyzzyg said:

    Where is the evidence that Obama would not be comfortable with McCarthy?

    Nope. You have not offered any comparative information to establish that Obama would be less comfortable with McCarthy (and niether does he) than with Ayers.

    Barack Obama has never associated or conferred with anyone other than socialist mentors and yes-men. If he has, his handlers have never let it be known because his belief systems, writings, and associations, are a closely guarded secret. It is grossly disingenuous of you to take advantage of the Obama curtain of secrecy to rebuff assertions that Obama would not be comfortable with Mr. McCarthy.

    If he is uncomfortable taking direct unscripted questions from beat reporters (as has been demonstrated countless times) he would clearly be discomfited having to spar with an intellect superior to his own, which he would encounter with McCarthy. As you may know, Mr. Obama is quite vain and insecure, despite his legendary oratory and fondness for martinis.

  32. #32
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:43 am, granite said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:41 am, RedDog said:

    …he would clearly be discomfited having to spar with an intellect superior to his own,….

    Please; my left *@# has an intellect superior to his.
    (Family blog, remember?)

  33. #33
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:43 am, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:49 am, SHoward said: #10

    Well, Ziggy, we know from watching his pressers that Obambi isn’t comfortable with tough questions. We know he doesn’t like being challenged, and always appears uncomfortable when he is.

    I agree, few people are comfortable with tough questions. Though McCarthy did not say anything about questions. McCarthy only asserted that being in the same room with Obama would cause him discomfort. I am sure you don’t mind that I remain focused on exactly what was said, and not what was not said.

    Now, who is more likely to challenge him, Terrorist Ayers or Lawyer McCarthy?

    Each, Ayers and McCarthy, have their own agendas and would challenge Pres Obama where they feel he is weak on what they support.

    I would reasonably conclude that Mr. McCarthy’s statement is accurate, even if there isn’t video evidence of it actually happening with the exact players mentioned.

    How about the multiple times and video evidence of Pres Obama meeting with Republicans and/or their leadership? Does Pres Obama appear uncomfortable?

    This actual . . . real evidence supports the fact that Pres Obama is indeed comfortable being in the same room with people that he may, or may not, agree with.

    I would reasonably conclude that Mr. McCarthy’s statement is . . . a speculative guess based on assumptions and straw man arguments.

  34. #34
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:47 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    To this president and his government, I am the problem.

    And so is me! Proud of it too!

  35. #35
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:48 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Can always count on Ziggy to play “Devil’s meat puppet”!

  36. #36
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:49 am, spaceycakes said:

    I’ll ask the questions around here.

    Has the prez returned Gov. Brewer’s calls?

  37. #37
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:49 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    I would reasonably conclude that Mr. McCarthy’s statement is . . . a speculative guess based on assumptions and straw man arguments.

    Kewl! So you’re on board then?

  38. #38
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:50 am, SHoward said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:43 am, zyzzyg said:

    Okay, if that isn’t splitting hairs, I really don’t know what is. McCarthy’s assertion implies there would be some sort of exchange. He is implying that exchange would be something like him questioning the prez. That the prez is comfy in a room full of Republicans means nothing, as many of them are actually more like Obambi than us normal folk. McCarthy would actually hit him with real questions.

    You seem to be trying to argue one very precise and minute point and overlooking the broader conclusion, that being Obambi doesn’t like tough questions, especially sans TOTUS.

    Is it that you love Obambi that makes you defend you’re statement? Or do you hate McCarthy? I would agree with you on one point: if Obambi and McCarthy were sitting on a couch staring at each other, Obambi probably wouldn’t be too uncomfortable. Just so long as no one actually spoke. Is that the ultra-precise circumstance you are envisioning?

  39. #39
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:52 am, cheapseat said:

    When are Americans going to get the reality, that Islam is a religion of world dominance. EVERYWHERE they go, they incite religious persecution reteric, while practicing economic, political, and religious war upon the host society. If you missed the last 400 years of world history, you missed the complete takeover of the middle east, to the point that it is a death sentence to practice other than the Islamic “religion”. Now they are taking over Africa at the point of a gun and bomb, just as they took over Indonesia, and are presently invading the Phillipines, Australis, western Europe, and America. You had better start looking around folks, because we are being invaded by several hostile forces bent on our political and economic destruction.

  40. #40
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:53 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Flyoverman said:

    OBTW, please note if you want to find the Dear Leader in the next few days, he has decided to skip out on Memorial Day to be in Chicago on vacation.

    Good. That fool does not belong anywhere near the Memorials to our fallen Heroes. I would just love to B slap Clinton for that act he pulled at the Vietnam Memorial.

  41. #41
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:53 am, Flyoverman said:

    Hopefully, The One will make himself so toxic, enough Democrat Congressman and Senators up for re-election will abandon him and his agenda so no furhter damage occurs between now and the election.

  42. #42
    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:58 am, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:04 am, Flyoverman said: #15

    Z, on this one you need to change your pseudonymn to Rumpelstiltskin.

    His assertion is about as obvious as the sun rising daily in the East. You REALLY need to do some historidcal research on Obama. You REALLY need to look at the background of the people in key positions that Obama has appointed. You REALLY need to look at statements made in the past and since being appointed by those same people.
    Your REALLY need to look at Obama’s statements about Bill Ayers.

    Take it from a domestic terrorist military veteran who spends his days in bitterness clinging to my Bible and guns.

    OBTW, please note if you want to find the Dear Leader in the next few days, he has decided to skip out on Memorial Day to be in Chicago on vacation. It’s no big deal. He is only that the Commander in Chief during a war with troops for whom he is responsible in the field fighting, being wounded, being killed. That should be sufficient insight into this man’s core.

    Yep, plenty of evidence of who Pres Obama is comfortable with, yet still no evidence that he is uncomfortable others.

    By way of analogy, for someone who enjoys baseball, would you conclude that they do not enjoy football, too? Hockey? Basketball? Or, that the person lacks an appreciation for other sports?

  43. #43
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:02 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:53 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Good. That fool does not belong anywhere near the Memorials to our fallen Heroes. I would just love to B slap Clinton for that act he pulled at the Vietnam Memorial.

    Actually, I am glad he will be elsewhere for the same reasons. Go to YouTube and search on “Obama Memorial Day 2008″. His remarks on that day occurred six months before the election. The man is Harvard educated, 48 years old, and had NO CLUE what Memorial Day was.

    Same guy who went to the gym in Germany and passed on seeing wounded soldiers.

    As a Vietnam era Veteran I have a “special place in my heart” for Bill Clinton; the Michael Blumenthal of Arkansas.

  44. #44
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:07 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:58 am, zyzzyg said:
    By way of analogy, for someone who enjoys baseball, would you conclude that they do not enjoy football, too? Hockey? Basketball? Or, that the person lacks an appreciation for other sports?

    By way of analogy, for someone who enjoys socialism, Marxism, communism, would you conclude that they do not enjoy conservatism, too? Capitalism? Or that the person lacks an appreciation for other isms less destructive to the Constitution?

    My answer would be yes, what say you?

  45. #45
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:11 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Yep, plenty of evidence of who Pres Obama is comfortable with, yet still no evidence that he is uncomfortable [with]others.

    Like golfing with Rush Limbaugh?

    Like his last meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu?

    Like no press conferences since July 2009?

    Shall I continue or allow you to do your own research?

  46. #46
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:12 pm, granite said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:52 am, cheapseat said:

    If you missed the last 400 years of world history,….

    I believe the last 1400 years would be more accurate.

  47. #47
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:14 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    He thoroughly demonstrates how our external Muslim enemies join with our internal Alinskyite enemies to destroy all we hold dear.

    That alliance between Jihadists and Communists is the premise of my post A Different “9/11 Truth”. I haven’t updated that post in months, but it seems that every week that goes by, something noteworthy happens that provides more circumstantial evidence that could be added to that existing list.

    I believe that 9/11 was not not only a Jihadist attack but also a Communist attack.

    Why do you think the World Trade Centers were targeted?

    I believe it was because they were arguably the most widely recognized symbols of U.S. capitalism.

    And I believe that if any U.S. citizen had foreknowledge of the attacks, Bill Ayers is one of the most likely suspects. He never changed his ideology, only his tactics. He is still a Communist Revolutionary intent on attacking our government, only now he attacks it from the inside out, rather than from the outside in.

  48. #48
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:24 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    But my journey is part of a larger journeyone shared by all who’ve ever sought to apply the values of their faith to our society. It’s a journey that takes us back to our nation’s founding, when none other than a UCC church inspired the Boston Tea Party and helped bring an Empire to its knees.

    - Barack Hussein Obama

  49. #49
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:27 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:07 am, tre said: #17

    The issue is McCarthy’s unsubstatiated and unsupported assertion about Obama’s comfort level with who is in the room with him.

    You have taken a tangent, but I will bite.

    Well, lemme see here. Obummer bows to the King of Saudi Arabia.

    OK, and other Presidents are comfortable holding the hand of the King of Saudi Arabia.

    But, with the Prime Minister of Israel, our only real ally in the mideast, Obummer leaves him sitting in a room while he, Obummer, has dinner with his family.

    Not sure how this addresses the issue of comfort. I will agree that on its face it demonstrates a revealing look at how Pres Obama prioritizes situations. However, was that meeting planned, or was it the second meeting that day? Pres Obama walked away from an unplanned meeting set up to accommodate the wishes of the Israeli PM. Again, nothing about comfort or discomfort. Though it does demonstrate that Pres Obama is comfortable enough with Nentanhayu (Sp?) to have him come back to the WH for an unschedule meeting.

    Obummer goes to China, a country that has a terrible record on human rights. A country that persecutes Christians. And apologizes for the Arizona law.

    I understand your intended reference, however it was a State Dept functionary that you wanted to reference and not Pres Obama. This underscores the conflation and confusion that you use to arrive at asserting that there was some sort of apology for the Arizona law. There was no apology. Yes, the law was discussed. Read the transcript of the discussion, no one apologized.

    Oh, and how does this demonstrate McCarthy’s assertion of Pres Obama’s comfort of being in the same room with him?

    I have no trouble saying !!OBUMMER IS AN ENEMY OF THIS COUNTRY!!

    OK. And, I have no problem saying you confuse and conflate issues to arrive at disasterous conclusions.

  50. #50
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:34 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    …for the first time in our history, we have a president who would be much more comfortable sitting in a room with Bill Ayers than sitting in a room with me…

    To this president and his government, I am the problem.

    Indeed. In the eyes of the Democrat[ic Socialist]s, it is not Bill Ayers who should be tried for sedition, but rather you and me…

    Deval Patrick: These darned Republicans are almost at the level of sedition

  51. #51
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:35 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:13 am, flmom said: #20

    You have to admit that Obama didn’t seem too comfortable when Bret Baier interviewed him back in March

    .

    Yep, Pres Obama did not appear to be comfortable in that interview.

    Have you compared and contrasted how Baier conducted himself with his other interviews of Presidents? Baier is OK, but had he spoken to me the way he spoke to Pres Obama, I would have been uncomfortable, too.

    But, what has that got to do with being in the same room with McCarthy?

  52. #52
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:38 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:14 am, iamsaved said: #22

    Ever been in a room where someone passed some odiferous gas? I don’t have to be in the room to know what the comfort level is for those in the immediate vicinity. One just knows from life’s little experiences over time. Sometimes truths and facts are self-evident without having to be spelled out.

    Ummm, OK. LOL.

  53. #53
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:47 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:23 am, cabrerski said: #25

    That is quite the assertion. How does McCarthy know what another person is comfortable with, or not with?
    Looks like someone ended his career in Philosophy at PHI 101. Consistent behaviors trend towards predictable results. For example: it is ten times more likely that you light candles and bow to Obama daily than I. This is called a reasonable assumption.

    Assumption? Therefore, it is untrue until proven.

    As for your assumption about candles and bowing, you are wrong. I do niether. How did you arrive at your assumption? What facts in evidence do you have that that is a reasonable assumption.

  54. #54
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:48 pm, TanyaB said:

    Obama refuses to admit that we have a war with Islam.
    When speaking of the beheading of Daniel Pearl, he said it shows the importance of freedom of the press!! Can you believe that??
    Not that he was killed by Muslims because he was an American Jew.
    He is only good for reading a teleprompter, and flying all over the world either apologizing for America, or taking vacatiion, or both!!

  55. #55
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:49 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Don’t nibble the stinky cheese bait.

  56. #56
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:52 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:30 am, WarEagle82 said: #29

    Well, wiggy-zyggy has been drinking from the Obama kool-aid bucket rather early today…

    And this clown claims to be a Republican from Maryland. Go figure.

    Wiggy-zyggy wouldn’t recognize a 2×4 if it was embedded in his forehead.

    “Clueless” doesn’t begin to describe it.

    I addressed each of your questions, but you have chosen not to address mine.

    So be it.

  57. #57
    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:53 pm, rambler said:

    Bho has no interest in being POTUS. He’s currently too busy campaigning for Leader of the World and would sell us out to the highest bidder to get that position. He doesn’t care if the jihadies or the Chinese win the right to control us.

    When does it become treason to violate the Constitution?

  58. #58
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:02 pm, granite said:

    I would argue that the following is on-topic; and, sadly, not in the least surprising:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/05/islamic-jihadists-coming-over-the-arizona-border.html

    Anyone still think that democratssocialists love America?

  59. #59
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:08 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:49 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Don’t nibble the stinky cheese bait.

    Sage advice often forgotten by the local catfish.

  60. #60
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:17 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:41 am, RedDog said: #33

    Barack Obama has never associated or conferred with anyone other than socialist mentors and yes-men. If he has, his handlers have never let it be known because his belief systems, writings, and associations, are a closely guarded secret. It is grossly disingenuous of you to take advantage of the Obama curtain of secrecy to rebuff assertions that Obama would not be comfortable with Mr. McCarthy.

    You do know that Pres-elect Obama met with Rush Limbaugh and other conservatives at George Will’s home? Don’t you? Was Obama comfortable being in the same room with conservatives?

    Was Pres Obama comfortable meeting with Republicans in Baltimore? Was Pres Obama comfortable meeting with Republicans in that televised healthcare meeting?

    McCarthy’s assertion is about being in the same room and Pres Obama’s comfort level, not about who is advising him.

    If he is uncomfortable taking direct unscripted questions from beat reporters (as has been demonstrated countless times) he would clearly be discomfited having to spar with an intellect superior to his own, which he would encounter with McCarthy. As you may know, Mr. Obama is quite vain and insecure, despite his legendary oratory and fondness for martinis.

    Did not know it was martinis, thought it was beer. So much for legendary.

    Again, McCarthy did not say Pres Obama would be uncomfortable having a discussion with him, he spoke of Pres Obama comfort level with being in the same room with him.

    You have been led to the kool-aid and drank it up in giant gulps.

    Being in the same room does not necessarily mean having a conversation with someone. If McCarthy meant to say Pres Obama is not comfortable in engaging him in conversation, then he should have been more explicit. And yes, had McCarthy been that explicit I would have asked for proof of that assertion, too.

    As for the unscripted questions from beat reporters, few Presidents regularly address questions yelled at them as they walk from here to there, or during a photo op.

  61. #61
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:24 pm, dcbprime said:

    Seems more like a bit of literary hyperbole than anything that should be taken as strictly literal.

    Because, for the first time in our history, we have a president who would be much more comfortable sitting in a room with Bill Ayers than sitting in a room with me.

    Taken hair-splittingly literally, I would think that John Adams would most certainly have been uncomfortable with either man traveling back in time to sit in a room with him, as would the President before him and many Presidents after him.

    Why strain on a gnat, Z?

  62. #62
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:30 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:50 am, SHoward said: #41

    I responded to your initial comments from post #10 in my post #35, and asked you a question that you have not addressed. When you do so I will address your new questions from post #41.

    And yeah, even in your post #10 addressing my post #6, you never addressed the original questions I raised, so my expectations are low that you will address anything I actually say.

  63. #63
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:30 pm, SHoward said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:24 pm, dcbprime said:
    Why strain on a gnat, Z?

    Its his way.

  64. #64
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:35 pm, SHoward said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:30 pm, zyzzyg said:

    Get a clue, maroon. You missed the entire point of the story.

  65. #65
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, SHoward said:

    BTW: Post #6 is WarEagle’s.

  66. #66
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:39 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 12:49 pm, spaceycakes said:
    Don’t nibble the stinky cheese bait.

    Moi?

  67. #67
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:41 pm, Flyoverman said:

    You do know that Pres-elect Obama met with Rush Limbaugh and other conservatives at George Will’s home? Don’t you? Was Obama comfortable being in the same room with conservatives?

    Impeccable logic Z. That is like saying because George HW Bush was served brocilli at a state dinner in England, he does not dislike brocilli.

    Given your evidenciary standards, it would be impossible to reach any conclusion about any person on any topic.

    Let us return to McCarthy’s quote:

    Because, for the first time in our history, we have a president who would be much more comfortable sitting in a room with Bill Ayers than sitting in a room with me.

    The expression “more comfortable” is relative term, not an absolute. Bill Ayers is a good, loyal, adult-life long friend of Obama’s, with the same values and world view. There are very few people in this world that Obama would me more comfortable with.

    That is McCarthy’s real point here. Bill Ayers is an unrepentent, domestic, serial bombing, terrorist, who only through poor planning failed to kill other Americans. His wife, however, did kill. This was not combat like Lee and Grant. Ayers is no different than Timothy McVeay.

    Your implication is Obama is “not all that bad.” Sorry, you’re incorrect.

  68. #68
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:51 pm, Mister P said:

    Zigzag must have his pants on the ground.

  69. #69
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:52 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:24 pm, dcbprime said: #64

    Seems more like a bit of literary hyperbole than anything that should be taken as strictly literal.

    Taken hair-splittingly literally, I would think that John Adams would most certainly have been uncomfortable with either man traveling back in time to sit in a room with him, as would the President before him and many Presidents after him.

    Why strain on a gnat, Z?

    Because, words have meaning. Because, you should say what you mean and mean what you say. Because, when you say fluffy ambiguous things that allow for multiple interpretations and the drawing of inaccurate conclusions you are being intellectually dishonest to your audience.

    Witness AG Blumenthal, Dem candidate for the US Senate from CT. He used fluffy ambiguous language to address his military service that allowed people to draw the incorrect conclusion. Yes, at times he has been definitive about his Viet Nam era military experience. Yes, at times he left the door open. And yes, at times he down and out lied.

    The point being, is that McCarthy addressed only sitting in a room with Pres Obama and not engaging him in conversation. Too many people have dove headlong into the fluffy ambiguity that McCarthy established and extrapolated something unsaid.

    Words have meaning. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Please, no fluffy ambiguity that allows for multiple interpretations.

    If McCarthy wanted to say something else, he should have been more explicit.

    My original question remains, how does one person know about another’s comfort level about being in the same room with them, unless it has happened?

  70. #70
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:55 pm, carole said:

    Shore Bank, *thanks to Glenn, is the key to this whole “gang”. It took two chalk boards to bring them together. Sestak, birth, etc. would take years to prosecute, this Shore Bank is the ONE THING. It’s bailout is coming soon….Please call every dem., especially Liebermann and Graham and all the players and tell them the Shore Bank bailout is criminal.

  71. #71
    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:57 pm, granite said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:55 pm, carole said:

    Shore Bank,….

    Ummm…correct thread?

  72. #72
    On May 25th, 2010 at 2:00 pm, dcbprime said:

    So you suppose that President Obama would be more comfortable with McCarthy than with Ayers?

    Not wanting to present a false choice scenario, but the options are:

    * more comfortable with Ayers than McCarthy
    * more comfortable with McCarthy than Ayers

    I know that I have never been in a room with either, yet I know which one I would be more comfortable with in the same room.

  73. #73
    On May 25th, 2010 at 2:18 pm, RedDog said:

    Does the ZZagster actually work? He is really pounding the keyboard today. I don’t think he missed one reply. You can’t say he’s not tenacious. Like another one of those deer ticks I pulled off yesterday. Left the damm head in I think. Been dizzy and nauseous ever since. Vision blurry… tired…. very tired… remind wife to keep dog off the bed… I’ll get you for this zyzzyg…..

  74. #74
    On May 25th, 2010 at 2:31 pm, Dave Turson said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 1:52 pm, zyzzyg said:
    My original question remains, how does one person know about another’s comfort level about being in the same room with them, unless it has happened?

    Where were you when Fox News (and Rush Limbaugh) were attacked from the Oval Office?

  75. #75
    On May 25th, 2010 at 2:50 pm, Hannibal said:

    #63 On May 25th, 2010 at 1:17 pm, zyzzyg said:

    You do know that Pres-elect Obama met with Rush Limbaugh and other conservatives at George Will’s home? Don’t you?

    The supposition that Limbaugh attended the Obama dinner at Will’s home is not a fact. Why would you lead us to believe it is fact? Are you lying to us?

  76. #76
    On May 25th, 2010 at 3:23 pm, MarkD said:

    Why argue with a guy who thinks “hole cloth” is a synonm for “whole cloth?” Alphabet is a distraction. Show up at the polls in November, and send the first troupe of clowns home.

    For all his faults, Clinton had it right when he said it was the economy. The economy isn’t looking very good, and neither are Obama’s chances. He can’t be gone soon enough.

  77. #77
    On May 25th, 2010 at 3:23 pm, Oink said:

    I heard McCarthy on Hannity’s radio show yesterday and drove straight home and ordered the book.

    I can hardly wait to get it.

    Thanks for mentioning this book, Michelle.

  78. #78
    On May 25th, 2010 at 3:26 pm, Mister P said:

    I know this. Obama would not feel comfortable with me in the room. I would make sure he didn’t.

  79. #79
    On May 25th, 2010 at 3:27 pm, flmom said:

    Zyzzyg is engaging in a little presumption himself. Rush Limbaugh wasn’t at the George Will dinner, though at the time there was some speculation.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/13/obamas-dinner-with-conser_n_157701.html

  80. #80
    On May 25th, 2010 at 3:28 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    PhredE said:
    …On a related note (“Suspected Iranian arms dealer has Oregon connection”)

    No sales tax! Even Iranian armas delaers understand economics better than the Dems.

  81. #81
    On May 25th, 2010 at 3:32 pm, spaceycakes said:

    we are the local catfish, Fly & Rogue, if we continue to bite at the baitzzz.

  82. #82
    On May 25th, 2010 at 4:08 pm, dcbprime said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 3:23 pm, MarkD said:

    Why argue with a guy who thinks “hole cloth” is a synonm for “whole cloth?”

    Wasn’t that just a typo? Like the one you did on “synonym”?

  83. #83
    On May 25th, 2010 at 4:12 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    How long before some accuses Andrew C. McCarthy of…

    … McCarthyism

    ;-)

  84. #84
    On May 25th, 2010 at 4:48 pm, Leatherneck said:

    I enjoyed the inclusion of some of our government as part of those who wish the destruction of America.

    Fitting.

  85. #85
    On May 25th, 2010 at 5:09 pm, John Deaux said:

    Hey, let’s play “find the jackass!”

    Guess who’s “it”?

  86. #86
    On May 25th, 2010 at 5:10 pm, SHoward said:

    Now that the semester is over, I can spend some time reading this tome. I wonder if it’s going to get my BP up any higher than having Obambi in office already does.

  87. #87
    On May 25th, 2010 at 5:13 pm, SHoward said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 5:09 pm, John Deaux said:

    Ummm, is it Obambi? No, too obvious.

    How ’bout Napolitano? Nope. Again, too obvious.

    Is the one that’s been hiding since 1:52 PM EST?

  88. #88
    On May 25th, 2010 at 5:18 pm, spaceycakes said:

    dragged his bait elsewhere, as it were.

  89. #89
    On May 25th, 2010 at 5:20 pm, John Deaux said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 5:13 pm, SHoward said:

    Ummm, is it Obambi? No, too obvious.

    He’s the one on the small business thread.

    Is the one that’s been hiding since 1:52 PM EST?

    Read his 10:40 comment. It’s unprecedented.

  90. #90
    On May 25th, 2010 at 5:40 pm, SHoward said:

    Read his 10:40 comment. It’s unprecedented.

    Well, it was the one that started it all today.

    What amazes me is that he appears to ignore the context and attacks that statement specifically and individually. It’s not even that he’s dead wrong, but that he seems unable to see the bigger picture. Since he insists on arguing only that one insignificant point, he detracts from the whole conversation.

    At least it’s fun poking at him and watching his responses. Especially when he himself, “Mr. Stickler” starts making glaring errors.

  91. #91
    On May 25th, 2010 at 5:45 pm, John Deaux said:

    I actually think he tries to take chappy’s “voice of reason” perspective. But whereas chap actually is a voice of reason, all Mr. Stickler does is paint a target on his chest.

    Of course, he doesn’t do this on all threads. He does seem to have an penchant for defending the Teacup-in-chief.

  92. #92
    On May 25th, 2010 at 6:02 pm, spaceycakes said:

    all he does is derail the thread & insist that everyone answer his questions.

  93. #93
    On May 25th, 2010 at 6:17 pm, SHoward said:

    And Spacey tried to warn us off, but like a kid pokin’ a possum with a stick, I just couldn’t help myself.

    The one thing is, if you noticed, the more he tried to argue his line, the more he started making mistakes. After that, he disappeared. I know he’ll be back later, but I can’t wait to see his reaction to recent posts.

    Ziggy: [nose held high, similar to Obambi] “You petty cretins just won’t argue precisely on my terms, so I, the greatest (insert flashy term here) in history, will not lower myself to answer your juvenile, pedantic ramblings.”

  94. #94
    On May 25th, 2010 at 8:21 pm, ScottyDog said:

    Nothing like hijacking a thread about minutia. The point was that Barry is a red diaper doper baby aka a commie…period.

    BTW-If you do not think it is obvious, you need to get on some medication.

  95. #95
    On May 25th, 2010 at 8:22 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    … McCarthyism

    Turns out old Joe was right……….

  96. #96
    On May 25th, 2010 at 8:29 pm, Major O said:

    Well, it was the one that started it all today.

    What amazes me is that he appears to ignore the context and attacks that statement specifically and individually. It’s not even that he’s dead wrong, but that he seems unable to see the bigger picture. Since he insists on arguing only that one insignificant point, he detracts from the whole conversation.

    At least it’s fun poking at him and watching his responses. Especially when he himself, “Mr. Stickler” starts making glaring errors.

    That’s his trademark MO. He majors on some painfully irrelevant minor and then always ends with something about “not answering his questions.” Also, the concept of “inference” seems utterly lost on him. Unless BHO gets on television and states clearly, “I am more comfortable sitting with Bill Ayers than sitting with…” you just can’t say anything about it.

    But I have to say, he is only a less adept practitioner of the same annoying art that some other leftists on here regularly indulge in. And that is to lurk around and say ZILCH on posts where they don’t have a prayer of successfully defending the opposing position, or the position is so immoral they don’t want to be seen defending it, but then seize ANY opportunity possible to jump in and nitpick at some side issue. (Alternatively, some will occasionally chime in with some dumb joke or chuckle-worthy non sequitur to blunt the edge of a spot on post.)

    I thought to myself this morning (PDT), how nice it was for so many days to not run into one of them on these comments boards. Sigh. If these folks had any integrity, they would speak up not just when they have a picayune objection to something posted, but also to condemn or admit when their side is in the wrong. To the best of my recollection, I’ve yet to see that here and probably won’t because I think it’s beyond dispute that they are here only to deny, deflect, and defend the indefensible actions of this corrupt regime. Yeah, I said it.

    So we can all pick on ZigZag (and rightly so), but he’s not alone.

  97. #97
    On May 25th, 2010 at 8:33 pm, Major O said:

    To the best of my recollection, I’ve yet to see that here and probably won’t because I think it’s beyond dispute that they are here only to deny, deflect, and defend the indefensible actions of this corrupt regime. Yeah, I said it.

    I forgot to exempt Zigzag from that comment as he alone is the only one I can think of that does occasionally show up to AGREE or even condemn the actions of the other side.

  98. #98
    On May 25th, 2010 at 9:48 pm, zyzzyg said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 8:33 pm, Major O said: #102

    I forgot to exempt Zigzag from that comment as he alone is the only one I can think of that does occasionally show up to AGREE or even condemn the actions of the other side.

    Thank you.

  99. #99
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:33 pm, SHoward said:

    I think I’m about to spring a trap, but here goes.

    I have one certain observation about Ziggy: I have seen him state his own personal position before, and more often than not I actually agree with it.

    That’s what puzzles me so about this thread. (Since you’re here) Why on earth argue that particular point? You are right that words mean things, but for crying out loud the intent of the statement was clear from the context, and you seemed to ignore that. If there’s any real beef I have with you it’s that, not neccessarily your personal political position.

  100. #100
    On May 25th, 2010 at 10:37 pm, Blackstone said:

    On May 25th, 2010 at 11:23 am, zyzzyg said:

    McCarthy is speculating and guessing.

    You sure about that? Where’s your evidence that he’s speculating and guessing? Did you read his book?

    Sounds to me like you’re just speculating.

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