The long, hot Summer of Corruption Updated

By Michelle Malkin  •  June 2, 2010 09:40 AM

6/3 Scroll down for updates…Romanoff and Sestak and Blago, oh my!

The resurrection of Rod Blagojevich
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2010

We’ve had the Summer of Love and the Summer of the Shark. Now, are you ready for the Summer of Corruption? On Thursday, jury selection begins in the federal trial of disgraced former Democrat Gov. Rod Blagojevich of Illinois. The timing couldn’t be worse for Blago’s old Chicago pals in the White House. Just as Team Obama tries to bury one job-trading scandal, another one resurfaces.

It’s a useful reminder that Washington didn’t turn Obama into a business-as-usual politician. He was born and bred among the slimiest in their class.

At the center of the Blago trial is the convergence of the Chicago political machine – the corrupt Democratic Party establishment, Big Labor heavies at the Services Employees International Union, and Team Obama.

In December 2008, the political ties that bind them all came under national scrutiny when federal prosecutors publicly released their criminal complaint against Blagojevich. SEIU figured prominently in Blago’s secretly taped musings on how to profit from his power to appoint Obama’s Senate replacement. So did a larger union umbrella federation, Change to Win, led by SEIU secretary-treasurer Anna Burger. Blago hatched a plan to snag a $300,000-a-year job as head of Change to Win in exchange for appointing a union-friendly successor to Obama.

Like Obama, Blago enjoyed massive campaign donations and on-the-ground support from the SEIU’s Purple Army. Like Obama, Blago repaid his Big Labor backers with labor-friendly executive orders and legislative largesse to facilitate union organizing and carve out major portions of the health care industry for them. At the time of his arrest, Blago was preparing another executive order to expand the union power grab over an even larger portion of home health care workers targeted by the SEIU.

Blagojevich did the country an extraordinary unintended favor. As health care analyst David Catron wrote: “He has made it clear to the meanest intelligence that Obama emerged from a hopelessly corrupt political culture. Barack Obama oozed from the same stinking Chicago swamp that produced Blagojevich, and a man whose formative years were spent wallowing in the muck with such creatures isn’t likely to be long in White House before the stench of pay-to-play politics begins to pervade the place.”

Fast-forward. Nearly two years later, Obama’s legal fixers can’t mask the Chicago-esque odor of Sestak-gate. The president’s legal team, led by chief fixer and legal counsel Bob Bauer, orchestrated a Memorial Day weekend document dump intended to squash mounting public criticism of the administration’s alleged government job offer to Pennsylvania Democrat senatorial candidate Joe Sestak. Bauer’s memo acknowledged that “options for Executive Branch service were raised with him” through former President Bill Clinton, whom White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel enlisted to woo Sestak.

Blago knows all about working with Team Obama through intermediaries to explore, ahem, “options.” Blago’s then-chief of staff, John Harris, allegedly mapped out “three-way deal” to give the White House a “buffer” obscuring the obvious quid pro quo. SEIU would assist Obama with Blago’s appointment of a union-friendly candidate; Blago would get his cushy union job; and SEIU would be rewarded down the road with favors from the White House. Team Blago reached out to the SEIU. An unnamed SEIU official agreed to float their plan and “see where it goes.”

The Senate candidate Blago allegedly approached was top Obama adviser and Chicago political godmother Valerie Jarrett, who removed herself from the running when she took a top White House adviser post instead. Who was the “SEIU official” Team Blago spoke with and met? Internal communications in December 2008 fingered President Obama’s longtime Chicago pal, SEIU Local 1 president Tom Balanoff. Balanoff, not coincidentally had been appointed by Blago to the llinois Health Facilities Planning Board.

Two days before Christmas 2008, legal counsel Greg Craig released an official, self-exonerating report outlining contacts between Team Obama and Team Blago. Balanoff, it turns out, had indeed spoken with Jarrett. The Obama defense? Despite her much-touted political brilliance, the legal team argued, Jarrett “did not understand the conversation to suggest that the Governor wanted the cabinet seat as a quid pro quo for selecting any specific candidate to be the President-Elect’s replacement.” The Blago subpoena of the president filed last month begs to differ – and directly implicates Obama:

“…despite President Obama stating that no representatives of his had any part of any deals, labor union president [presumably SEIU’s Andy Stern] told the FBI and the United States Attorneys that he spoke to labor union official on November 3, 2008 who received a phone message from Obama that evening. After labor union official listened to the message labor union official told labor union president “I’m the one”. Labor union president took that to mean that labor union official was to be the one to deliver the message on behalf of Obama that Senate Candidate B was his pick.”

It’s going to be a long, hot summer of Chicago corruption.

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Update: The Summer of Corruption plot thickens!

Blago subpoenas Rahm Emanuel and Valerie Jarrett…

Andrew Romanoff finally confirms that the White House offered him not one, not two, but three different job proposals to drop his bid against Obama-favored Democratic Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet.

And the heat intensifies in the Sestak scandal.

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  1. #1
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:00 am, RedDog said:

    So many indictments, so little time.

  2. #2
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:13 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    And yesterday Holder declared that the DOJ will target global corruption. I think he meant that Team Obama wants their cut of that pie too.

  3. #3
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:15 am, TigerLady said:

    Despite her much-touted political brilliance, the legal team argued, Jarrett “did not understand the conversation to suggest that the Governor wanted the cabinet seat as a quid pro quo for selecting any specific candidate to be the President-Elect’s replacement.” The Blago subpoena of the president filed last month begs to differ – and directly implicates Obama:

    Which rat will come out on top of this heap? Who can tell the most believable lie?

    I’m plugging in the pop corn popper. This is better than The Young and Restless.

  4. #4
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:23 am, spaceycakes said:

    Despite her much-touted political brilliance, the legal team argued, Jarrett “did not understand

    I’d say Jarrett is doing most of the touting herself.

    Michell-o will be swooping down like a crazed harpy on them any moment now. Their reputations run on the same tracks.

  5. #5
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:24 am, cheapseat said:

    These days you can’t tell the corrupt politicians in Washington without a scorecard. One conviction with real prison time for these sleazoids would cure a hell of a lot of this. Pattycake with Bubba the father raper for a few years would give these jerks something to think about.

  6. #6
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:25 am, no2pcbs1 said:

    zero and his criminal enterprise administration are sewer dwellers. the stench coming from the wh must be unbearable. the corruption this joke of an administration brings to the wh is truly amazing. zero isn’t even good enough to be used as butt wipe as the toxic rash he’d leave would be lethal.

  7. #7
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:31 am, iamsaved said:

    If Holder would investigate the Obama and Chicago political machines he’d have enough to keep him busy for a long time. Forget world corruption, there’s plenty of it here.

  8. #8
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:36 am, letget said:

    I do not understand why this bho will not testify in this case? He is knee deep in this mess, so how the heck is getting out of this? My guess, he would be lying under oath. If this bho keep up his corruption in almost every thing he is doing, I just pray he will someday have to testify in something!
    L

  9. #9
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:36 am, happyscrapper said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:25 am, no2pcbs1 said:
    zero and his criminal enterprise administration are sewer dwellers. the stench coming from the wh must be unbearable. the corruption this joke of an administration brings to the wh is truly amazing. zero isn’t even good enough to be used as butt wipe as the toxic rash he’d leave would be lethal.

    Wow…tell us what you REALLY think! :wink: I like it!

    Unfortunately, the corruption will continue as long as Holder is AG. AND, if he leaves, another corruptocrat will take his place. That is all Obama knows…he has no friends or cronies who aren’t corrupt. That is the pool he is pulling his administration out of. It is not going to stop until Obama is toast. Hopefully in November, we can at least slow him down!

    There will come a day when Obama will be completely “outed” and the whole world will see everything about him, tied up in one neat package and irrefutable. Even then, some idiots will STILL deny his corruption. The veil over some eyes is too thick to penetrate and those are the lost.

  10. #10
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:41 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    The witnesses for the state have presented themselves to you gentlemen, to this court, in the cynical confidence that their testimony would not be doubted, confident that you gentlemen would go along with them on the assumption – the evil assumption – that all Negroes lie, that all Negroes are basically immoral beings, that all Negro men are not to be trusted around our women, an assumption one associates with minds of their caliber. Which, gentlemen, we know is in itself a lie as black as Tom Robinson’s skin, a lie I do not have to point out to you. You know the truth, the truth is this: some Negroes lie, some Negroes are immoral, some Negro men cannot be trusted around women, black or white. But this is a truth that applies to the human race and to no particular race of men.
    To Kill a Mockingbird
    Speech to the jury by Atticus Finch, Chapter 20.

  11. #11
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:45 am, swede said:

    TigerLady said:
    “I’m plugging in the pop corn popper. This is better than The Young and Restless.”

    Roger that! This is better than “The Godfather.” I’m getting pumped. The entertainment value of the Dear Leader crash and burn is outstanding, and we are no where near the climax.

    At least in the old days, Chicago/Mob/Machine slimeballs like Blago had some semblance of honor – like DeNiro’s classic… “You got pinched, but they got nuthin. Always remember, keep your mouth shut and never rat on your friends.”

    Blago would rat on his mother in a heartbeat, for a buck. Team Barry is toast.

  12. #12
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:51 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    It’s going to be a long, hot summer of Chicago corruption.

    Maycomb was an old town, but it was a tired old town when I first knew it. In rainy weather the streets turned to red slop; grass grew on sidewalks, the courthouse sagged in the square. Somehow, it was hotter then: a black dog suffered on a summer’s day; bony mules hitched to Hoover carts flicked flies in the sweltering shade of the live oaks on the square. Men’s stiff collars wilted by nine in the morning. Ladies bathed before noon, after their three-o’clock naps, and by nightfall were like soft teacakes with frostings of sweat and sweet talcum.
    To Kill a Mockingbird
    Scout (Jean Louise Finch) the narrator, Chapter 1.

  13. #13
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:54 am, happyscrapper said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:51 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Wow Cheddar…makes me want to read that book again, and I think I will. The descriptions are absolutely delicious!

  14. #14
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:56 am, txvet2 said:

    Chap must be sleeping in this morning. C’mon Chap, all together: “Reagan did it too! Reagan did it too!”

  15. #15
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:08 am, TigerLady said:

    Blago would rat on his mother in a heartbeat, for a buck. Team Barry is toast.

    He’ll sing like a canary. What about Mrs. Blago? What does she know and will she shop it to the highest bidder?

    Would it be too unbelievable if they find Blago with his veins opened in the bath? Oh the possibilities.

  16. #16
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:16 am, spaceycakes said:

    He’ll sing like a canary.

    A sailor’s canary.

  17. #17
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:20 am, spaceycakes said:

    OT: trying to get the last word in with questionable identities

  18. #18
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am, swede said:

    Would it be too unbelievable if they find Blago with his veins opened in the bath? Oh the possibilities.

    Wouldn’t be surprising if Blago wasn’t found at all – off somewhere with Jimmy Hoffa.

  19. #19
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am, ThackerAgency said:

    The thing that irks me the most about all this political corruption is the absolute GALL that the president shows EVERY TIME he chastises a profitable American company.

    Obama spends his time chastising others in an environment that Obama could NEVER succeed. . . The corporate world is full of winners and losers. Winners work very hard for whatever profit they might be so fortunate to get.

    The government doesn’t operate that way (neither do unions). Obama’s government operates in a ‘we always have money’ sort of way. Nobody in Wall Street could run a business like that. In the real world, efficiency and cherishing every single dollar of revenue is the main priority. You have to please your customers or you go out of business.

    We can vote politicians out, but they still get paid.

    What I don’t understand is why they have the authority to question and chastise American businesses for the practices that may have been questionable. . . but they don’t feel they need to answer questions for political situations that are borderline criminal at minimum.

    Obama is a crook. But he is enabled by the crooks that put him in place. Obama doesn’t think the government can run out of money. After all, there will always be ‘some rich guy’ to demonize who ‘owes’ the government for allowing him to make so much money by working hard.

    I am so sick of DC. They provide nothing of value, but they take whatever they want.

  20. #20
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:47 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    The ONLY way to rid the District of Corruption of that corrpution is to STOP voting for corruption. In both parties.

    In the last election we had a choice of TWO Soros owned candidates, both of whom offered: amnesty, bailouts, debt beyond our wildest imaginations.

  21. #21
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    Who will prosecute any of them?

    They have betrayed the citizenry and are refusing to uphold the laws. The only solution is voting them out.

  22. #22
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:53 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:08 am, TigerLady said:
    Would it be too unbelievable if they find Blago with his veins opened in the bath? Oh the possibilities.

    “What would you have him do, Domina?” Albinus asked, mockery in his tone, but not in his eyes. “Have a nice, hot bath and open his veins? Old Scaurus did that, last week, when he heard that the King was coming to Rome.”

    “He was eighty”, Rusticiana said, her eyes blazing. “And at that age the only veins a man can open are his own. But at least he did do that.”

    Albinus looked at Boethius. “Do you know, I begin to believe your wife wants me to go and kill the King.” He laughed. “As her husband, I trust she has given you first chance.”

    “A thousand years ago,” Rusticiana said, “at the time of Lucretia, we threw out our own King, and not even the maddest of the Caesars dared to assume that title again. Now we are to give it to an Ostrogoth.”

  23. #23
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:00 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The difference between now and Watergate is that during Watergate reporters looked for a “Deep Throat” so they could report the truth.

    Today, reporters look for the same “Deep Throat” to make sure they are identified and ratted out to the White House, so the truth of this Administration remains hidden and suppressed. In 2010 the “unindicted co-conspirators” include the MSM.

  24. #24
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:01 pm, Over30 said:

    Yeah, a buffer. The family had a lot of buffers.

    - quote from The Godfather, Willy Cicci at the senate committee hearing. The WH is now the Mafia on the Potomac.

  25. #25
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:02 pm, Ty85719 said:

    Being that the population of Chicago tends to condone and even promote the vile political machine that prospers within hat city, I am willing to wager than Blago will walk away without a scratch

  26. #26
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    For one I hope former Democrat Governor Rod Blagojevich beats the rap. A man that pretty would not do well in prison (or very well depending), he needs a chance to redeem his career and on the ourside he would be a constant reminder :evil:

    Oh yes, I do hope he beats the rap. Former Democrat Governor Rod “Deep Throat” Blagojevich would be of little use to us in prison. There are lots of former Illinois Governors in prison–like sand on the shore.

  27. #27
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm, Laree said:
  28. #28
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:19 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm, Laree said:

    Apparently Obowmao’s Daddy Pants have fallen on the ground!

  29. #29
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:21 pm, Azygos said:

    I’d like to know who coined the term Purple People Beaters? Doug was that you?

  30. #30
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:33 pm, Laree said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:19 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Too funny, Pants on the Ground, Pants on the Ground…if ever there was an example of an empty suit, the response to this gulf oil spill, should be used as a visual aid.

  31. #31
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:36 pm, goodforlaughs said:

    I’ve often wondered what did Vince Foster really know. Yeah, Blago, I’d watch my back if I were you. You got friends, you say? Hope you’ve got lots of money to buy their loyalty. I look forward to hearing you sing like a bird!

  32. #32
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:37 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Just wondering how deep and wide this cesspool goes?!?!

  33. #33
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:43 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 12:37 pm, rightwingmom said:
    Just wondering how deep and wide this cesspool goes?!?!

    Bigger than this!

  34. #34
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 1:04 pm, rambler said:

    This slime slick may turn out to be bigger than the gulf oil spill.

  35. #35
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 1:13 pm, Teddy Kennedy said:

    Errah, makes you wonder what Holder, Sebelius and Napolitano have on Obama since they were able to get their deals struck. Hillary already had his Birth Certificate so she was already a shoe in. Blago would probably been Secretary of Defense.

  36. #36
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 1:21 pm, rightwingmom said:

    You’ve got to have something on these crooks in politics or you’ll end up like Vince Foster!

  37. #37
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 1:55 pm, dcbprime said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:56 am, txvet2 said:

    Chap must be sleeping in this morning. C’mon Chap, all together: “Reagan did it too! Reagan did it too!”

    He’s been on other threads here already.
    But maybe he’s worn out from beating the dead horse, and is on a union break.

  38. #38
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 1:57 pm, Major O said:

    Sad to say, but my guess is nothing will come of this. The media will make certain that Average Joe thinks of it as some isolated something-or-another that has no relevance to BHO.

  39. #39
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 2:25 pm, J S Ragman said:

    What about Mrs. Blago? What does she know and will she shop it to the highest bidder?

    Whatever it is, it will need a language warning.

  40. #40
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 2:31 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Whatever it is, it will need a language warning.

    You’re &$#%(*!#&^%$ right there will be a language warning!

  41. #41
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 2:42 pm, RedDog said:

    Oh come on everybody. Let’s all sing the Frog March Song!

  42. #42
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 2:43 pm, Connect the Dots said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:36 am, happyscrapper said:

    There will come a day when Obama will be completely “outed” and the whole world will see everything about him, tied up in one neat package and irrefutable.

    Speaking of ‘outing’ — looks like ‘Bam and Rahm got some ‘splainin’ to do

  43. #43
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 2:49 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Rumor has it the Obama administration is going to use Blago to plug the hole.

  44. #44
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 3:20 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Not far off topic:

    Nearly half of the members of the all-Democratic Congressional Black Caucus want to scale back the aggressive ethics procedures that Democrats trumpeted after gaining control of Congress.

    Hey, this ethics panel keeps finding out we’re crooked! We gotta put a stop to that!

  45. #45
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 3:36 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Progress at any cost—lie, cheat, steal as Eddie G used to say—

    Liberals think they can break all the rules in order to force their tainted, selfish, cruel views on the rest of us.

  46. #46
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 3:36 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    What about Mrs. Blago? What does she know and will she shop it to the highest bidder?
    Whatever it is, it will need a language warning.

    Bailiff: Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
    Patty B.: F*&% yeah, I swear! All the f*&%ing time!

  47. #47
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 3:48 pm, Savage24 said:

    All I will add to this is a quote from Thomas Jefferson “When injustice becomes law, then rebellion becomes duty”. It’s past time!

  48. #48
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 4:33 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Speaking of ‘outing’ — looks like ‘Bam and Rahm got some ’splainin’ to do…

    Hmmm. If I were Blago and knew anything, I’d be carrying a gun whether legal or not. I’d call it “Jimmy Foster.”

  49. #49
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 4:52 pm, goodforlaughs said:

    Unless that law has been repealed recently, it’s still illegal to own a gun in mayor daley’s city [cesspool]. That’s why, of course, it’s such a shining example of law and order. Hmmm, maybe Oakland’s mayor can get onboard with that same kind of gun control and make the citizens safe!

  50. #50
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 5:03 pm, ScottyDog said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:49 am, Virginia The only solution is voting them out.

    You would think we could vote them out but as of late, I believe it is futile. Even the elections are fixed.

    I am beginning to think the only hope is another revolution just like Thomas Jefferson told us would be necessary to drain the swamp.

  51. #51
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm, jbh45 said:

    Dang, I hope ISSA can wait a little longer or just long enough for me to get a few beers, chips, and pull up my rocker-recliner.

    This is gonna be fun to watch.

  52. #52
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 5:52 pm, swede said:

    You would think we could vote them out but as of late, I believe it is futile. Even the elections are fixed.

    So by this I’m guessing you are doing nothing to assist conservatives get elected, and you do not intend to vote because that would be futile. We’re looking very good to win at least 2 seats back in Georgia. How about your state? Help me out here…how will they be able to rig the elections? They will play with the census to try to reassign more electoral votes to Dem districts. From what I’ve read, if they could actually pull it off, they might swing a few percent that way. Not the margins they’ll need.

    I am beginning to think the only hope is another revolution just like Thomas Jefferson told us would be necessary to drain the swamp.

    So how many folks do you suppose will be willing to actually take up arms against the government? My guess; maybe a couple hundred, a thousand? Who’s your commander? Where are you going to strike or are you just going to hold out? I hear there’s some property for sale near Waco. And when the ATF and National Guard Guys who have wives and kids are sent out you’re going to gun them down?

    Knock yourself out Rambo. Hope nobody gets hurt. This talk is nuts. Keyboard warriors.

  53. #53
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 5:59 pm, ScottyDog said:

    Swede

    I am getting really sick and tired of your childish attacks on my posts just because you think Barry Soetoro is an American Citizen.

    BTW in our last round, my posts on Barry Soetoro and my responses to you were deleted so it looked like I had nothing to say about your idiotic posts.

    Ever hear of Gerry Maundering and redistricting of voting districts?

    You are so naive that it is astounding.

  54. #54
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm, swede said:

    I am getting really sick and tired of your childish attacks on my posts just because you think Barry Soetoro is an American Citizen.

    I am so sorry. Please enlighten me how the new revolution will take place – and how gerrymandering could change the election results more than a point or two without it grossly contradicting the popular vote. I am too childish to understand how it could happen.

    Yes, I am stupid enough to believe Barry was born in Hawaii. Please educate me. Other than heresay, inuendo, circumstantial evidence and a whole bunch of logical falicies, I have seen nothing to make me believe otherwise. Please help me out, but I am NOT interested in Dr Pollard or Polarik or whoever he is. He is NOT an image analysis expert. And Dr Taitz, while a real dentist/attorney, is just creepy. Here you go, here’s your smoking gun!.

    BTW in our last round, my posts on Barry Soetoro and my responses to you were deleted so it looked like I had nothing to say about your idiotic posts.

    And why do you think that might happen?

    I know it is ignorant and naieve to ask rational questions and expect rational answers, but humor me.

  55. #55
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 8:19 pm, ScottyDog said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm, swede said:
    And why do you think that might happen?

    I have no idea because I did not use any name calling or foul language. Did you complain to the management? It is a first for me since I have been a member here at MM.

    You try and smear anyone that disagrees with you on the citizenship issue by trying to Impugn them as a conspiracy monger of some kind.

    You call yourself a conservative but use the same leftist tactics by besmirching people that you disagree with on the issues.

    Example-I made a comment about Thomas Jefferson and now you are trying to label me a conspiracy nut for paraphrasing one of our founding fathers and insinuating that I am a right wing militia member of some kind.

    Even though it is a violation of terms of use you get away with making comments like this;

    ” Knock yourself out Rambo. Hope nobody gets hurt. This talk is nuts”.

    The there is this:

    “So how many folks do you suppose will be willing to actually take up arms against the government? My guess; maybe a couple hundred, a thousand? Who’s your commander? Where are you going to strike or are you just going to hold out? I hear there’s some property for sale near Waco. And when the ATF and National Guard Guys who have wives and kids are sent out you’re going to gun them down”?

    I am retired from LE and know first hand how political corruption has affected the honesty of our elections so I know of what I speak.I witnessed it during several elections doing my job.

    I have more respect for MM than to continue this idiotic argument you want to have with me because I dared to challenge you on the citizenship question.

    How about this, I will not comment on your posts and you refrain from attacking mine?

  56. #56
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 9:40 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Here you go, here’s your smoking gun!.

    What’s that thing?

  57. #57
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:02 pm, swede said:

    You try and smear anyone that disagrees with you on the citizenship issue by trying to Impugn them as a conspiracy monger of some kind.

    No, I don’t complain to management but if you have been here for some time you know that Michelle Malkin believes Obama was born in Hawaii

    Berg and his supporters further assert that the “Certification of Live Birth” produced by Obama was altered or forged. They claim that the contemporaneous birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper of Obama’s birth is insufficient evidence that he was born there. (Did a fortune-teller place it in the paper knowing he would run for president?). And they accuse anyone who disagrees with them of being part and parcel of the grand plan to install Emperor Obama and usurp the rule of law.

    I believe Trig was born to Sarah Palin. I believe Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on U.S. soil. I believe fire can melt steel and that bin Laden’s jihadi crew – not Bush and Cheney – perpetrated mass murder on 9/11. What kind of kooky conspiracist does that make me?

    She doesn’t post on the topic and is not interested in discussing it unless something new and significant comes to light. Some of the evidence you presented as “irrefutable proof” turned out to be false. I could see that even without the real expert analysis linked. Could be why your comments were deleted, but I don’t know. I’d rather discuss things than have opposing ideas rejected.

    It is not smearing you to request some verifyable evidence of your claim. That is all I ask. You may notice I am the only skeptic here that will even discuss it. That is because I would like to see anything take Barry down. I don’t believe the birth issue will. Prove me wrong. Please. Wishing something to be true doesn’t make it true. If you can’t convince me, good luck with Congress or SCOTUS, who are the ones who would ultimately have to make the decision .

    I made a comment about Thomas Jefferson and now you are trying to label me a conspiracy nut

    When Jefferson called for revolution he was refering to an armed insurrection – a long bloody fight for freedom – which is why I asked you to enlighten me as to what you meant.

    I may have over reacted because this is the kind of thing that the left loonies latch on to to show how dangerous conservatives are. I have had discussions on this site and others where some actually advocate armed insurrection. That is what I think is nuts. I appologize if that was not your meaning. You do realize that advocating insurrection steps over the free speech boundary and becomes sedition, right? Just sayin. Do what you like. I comment from my heart and head, and can always be wrong – SO SHOW ME if I am.

  58. #58
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:06 pm, swede said:

    What’s that thing?

    Kenyan Birth Certificate for Barak Hussein Obama. Got Birthers all excited, but it’s a rather crude fake.

  59. #59
    On June 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 pm, ScottyDog said:

    On June 2nd, 2010 at 10:06 pm, swede said:

    I knew you would not be able to help yourself because you always have to have the last word and think you are some how the spokes person for the MM forum.

    Kenyan Birth Certificate for Barak Hussein Obama. Got Birthers all excited, but it’s a rather crude fake.

    Now you are making things up I never claimed that image in my posts.

    You know you really are a snake. You talk out of both sides of your mouth while doing it too.Here is an example of your duplicity:

    I comment from my heart and head, and can always be wrong – SO SHOW ME if I am.

    I offered to let this go but you just cannot help yourself as the self appointed messiah on the Barry Soetoro phony and fraudulent BC.
    You remind me of the criminal attorneys that used to try and twist the facts when arguing their cases in court.

    Sorry, that dog does not hunt with me.
    Swede, you are in denial.

  60. #60
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 12:58 am, swede said:

    Scotty – I do not want the last word, I’d rather you have it and provide some credible evidence of your claim. Still waiting.

    As for Michelle, she speaks for herself. I happen to agree with her position. Did you bother to read her post from 12-5-08? Truthers to the left of me, truthers to the right Read it. A sample.

    Alas, Trutherism thrives on both the left and right. Which brings us to the spate of lawsuits challenging President-elect Barack Obama’s U.S. citizenship. On Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court considers one of those suits filed by New Jersey citizen Leo Donofrio, who maintains that Obama is not a “natural born citizen” because his father held British citizenship.

    There may be a seed of a legitimate constitutional issue to explore here (how is the citizenship requirement enforced for presidential candidates, anyway?) And at least Donofrio concedes that Obama was born in Hawaii. But a dangerously large segment of the birth certificate hunters have lurched into rabid Truther territory.

    Geez Scotty, sounds like she’s calling you a “rabid Truther”. Isn’t that pretty bad? I guess she’s a schill for Obama, naieve, ignorant, smearing you… She has not posted a single thread on the topic since.

    I linked the phony Kenyan BC to illustrate that this is the ONLY kind of evidence I have ever seen that Obama was born anywhere other than Hawaii. I.e. Bogus. I will ask you again (sigh) SHOW ME SOMETHING. ANYTHING that proves Obama was not born in Hawaii. Please.

    You remind me of the criminal attorneys that used to try and twist the facts when arguing their cases in court.

    Great point! Thank you. PLEASE straighten out my twisted arguement with some solid facts. Please provide credible evidence That the COLB is forged – That the newspaper announcements were “planted” – That Dr Fukino and Dr Onaka are lying and there is no original – That FactCheck’s documentation is false – That Obama was born anywhere other than Hawaii. Any one of the above will do. Just one?

    Here’s a really interesting conversation on the topic with pretty much all the “evidence” Tell me what’s wrong or missing.

    You have degenerated into Ad Hominem arguement Scotty – Attacking the person rather than answering the question or dealing with the topic. Call me anything you like. Doesn’t matter to me. But it sure would be nice if you presented something substantive to back up your arguement. Anything at all?

  61. #61
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 8:31 am, John Deaux said:

    Birthers,

    It’s too late now. Let’s try putting in place a system that requires all candidates to be certified as eligiblle by the Supreme Court prior to the election.

  62. #62
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    WASHINGTON (AP) – Stung by a series of inquiries, nearly half the members of the Congressional Black Caucus want to scale back the aggressive ethics procedures that Democrats trumpeted after gaining control of Congress.

    Now why would that be? I would think THE MOST ETHICAL CONGRESS EVER would welcome aggressive ethics procedures. Perhaps I am mistaken.

    And besides that SHOW US THE DAMN BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

  63. #63
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 9:03 am, sbw999 said:

    I’m not sure if its the times we live in with its 24 hour news cycle, but I do not remember a time where it seemed that the Congress was almost 100% filled with self-interested slobs who were devoid of ethics; caring only about lining their pockets during public service, and after. Corruption seems now to be the norm.

  64. #64
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On June 3rd, 2010 at 9:03 am, sbw999 said:
    Corruption seems now to be the norm.

    I blame The Boosh!

  65. #65
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On June 3rd, 2010 at 8:31 am, John Deaux said:
    Birthers,

    It’s too late now.

    It’s never too late, Constitutional Crisis be damned! If a fraud has been perpetrated, frog-march the bastards to the hoosegow! The Nation will survive, truth will out!

  66. #66
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 9:49 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Andrew Romanoff finally confirms that the White House offered him not one, not two, but three different job proposals to drop his bid against Obama-favored Democratic Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet.

    And the heat intensifies in the Sestak scandal.

    I wrote a comment in another thread about the interesting relationships between Specter, Clinton, Sestak, and Obama.

    I have more to add to that here…

    Has anyone asked whether Hillary Clinton was offered the Secreatary of State job in return for conceding the Democratic Presidential primary?!?

    I fully believe that she was prepared to launch a floor fight at the Democratic National Convention, and only backed off when:
    1) Obama offered he the SoS job, and
    2) She realized that she did not have the numbers to win a floor fight.

    Remember, that because no one knew for sure how the superdelegates were going to vote, the outcome was not certain until Hillary conceded. And remember, too, that a Clinton-supporting superdelegate, the Arkansas Democratic chairman, was shot and killed shortly before the convention. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. To me, it feels like mob wars between two crime families – the Clinton crime family and the Obama crime family.

  67. #67
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:01 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On June 3rd, 2010 at 8:31 am, John Deaux said:

    Birthers,

    It’s too late now. Let’s try putting in place a system that requires all candidates to be certified as eligiblle by the Supreme Court prior to the election.

    Have you read section 3 of the 20th Amendment?

    3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

    There is already “a system that requires all candidates to be certified as eligible”. The problem is that members of Congress failed to support and defend the Constitution. Not a single one of them has followed Ronald Reagan’s practice of “Trust, but verify”. Not a single one of them asked for Hawaii to send them Obama’s original birth certificate. Not a single one of them ever investigated which countries Obama has been a subject or citizen of, and when he held that subjecthood/citizenship. Not a single one of them questioned whether having had foreign subjecthood/citizenship disqualifies someone from being considered a “natural born citizen” of the United States, and therefore disqualified from holding the office of President.

  68. #68
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:15 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    To hell with the BC, I’d settle for a DQ just based on his first year agenda alone!

  69. #69
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:18 am, John Deaux said:

    redpill,

    There is not presently in place a system that requires a candidate to be certified as eligible by the Supreme Court before his name can appear on the ballot.

    What we have now is that one needs to object in order for qualifications to be tested after the fact. The situation we’re in now could be avoided by verifying before any votes are cast. The present system is obviously not functional because this wouldn’t still be an issue, would it?

    I remember reading something about a bill in AZ requiring such proof before a candidate could appear on the ballot. I don’t know what if anything became of it, but it would only cover future ballots.

  70. #70
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:19 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Rogue,
    I.E., if members of Congress honored their oath of office?

    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter:
    So help me God.

  71. #71
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:20 am, Flyoverman said:

    I think Sestak is learning the hard way on of Murphy’s Axioms.

    “If you open a can or worms and then decide you want to put them back, you’re going to need a bigger can.”

    Obama’s team is handling this as poorly as the oil spill. Sucks to be them at the moment.

  72. #72
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:22 am, ITookTheRedPill said:
  73. #73
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    The trial will be page A-19 of the big papers.

    It’ll take a GOP win of at least one chamber of Congress so they can call hearings and subpoena witnesses. Even then the hearings will be ignored by the drive by media, but getting Sestak, or Blags, or Rahm, or the people in the Walpin firing case asserting 5th Amendment priviledge (or risk perjury indictments if the GOP gains the White House and the Department of Justice) might be enough to force even the Lamestream Media to pay attention.

  74. #74
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:46 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    The Obama birth certificate…
    it’s not just about whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii…
    it’s about whether or not all the details of the “Obama birth narrative” are true.

    We shouldn’t be asked to “just trust” the document produced at and by the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago. The State of Hawaii has never said that that COLB is authentic, and the State of Hawaii has never said anything more about the actual details of Obama’s birth than what was said first by the U.S. House of Representatives when they voted in favor of
    H. RES. 593.

    Fukino went months on end without saying “Obama was born in Hawaii”, and then mere hours after the U.S. House said so, Fukino released a news release saying “Obama was born in Hawaii”.

    Coincidence? Perhaps, but I don’t think so.

    Why didn’t Fukino say “Obama was born in Hawaii” in her October 31, 2008 news release?

    Why has Fukino never claimed that the “COLB” document produced at and by the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago is authentic?

    Why did the reports of Obama’s birth hospital change from the Queens’ Medical Center to Kapi’olani Medical Center?

    Again, as President Ronald Reagan said:

    Trust, but verify.

  75. #75
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 11:06 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    Hey, I’m looking for a job. If I threaten to run against some Dem incumbent in a primary, do you think I could score a decent offer? I’m not greedy. I’d take an Assistant Deputy Under Secretary of Somethingorother position.

  76. #76
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 am, Flyoverman said:

    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:46 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    The good news, RedPill, is that Obama will ultimately provide multiple an opportunity. The Feds tried for years to nail Capone on murder or racketeering charges. In the end income tax evasion got him toppled.

    If his birth certificate does not trip him up, something else is going to. He’s the little Dutch Boy with more holes spewing water than he has thumbs.

  77. #77
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 11:32 am, ITookTheRedPill said:
  78. #78
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 11:34 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On June 3rd, 2010 at 11:27 am, Flyoverman said:

    If his birth certificate does not trip him up, something else is going to. He’s the little Dutch Boy with more holes spewing water than he has thumbs.

    “Did you plug the holes yet, Daddy?”

    “I’m running out of fingers and toes!!!”

  79. #79
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 11:41 am, swede said:

    John Deaux said:
    Birthers,

    It’s too late now. Let’s try putting in place a system that requires all candidates to be certified as eligiblle by the Supreme Court prior to the election.

    Agree. I appologize for carrying this OT. Last comment.

    Challenging the constitutional definition of “natural born citizen” is your best and only shot at ineligibility, and that is a very long shot at best. Perhaps that battle would also do as John Deaux suggests and clearly define exactly what standards to follow to verify eligibility. Good luck. Meanwhile I’ll focus on assisting and supporting conservative candidates. Elections still matter and work.

  80. #80
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 11:47 am, jrgdds said:

    Yorba Linda, Calif. ‘Stands With Arizona’

    There are still a precious few sane people in Mexifornia.

  81. #81
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 11:53 am, swede said:

    CBO now says BarryCare will cost way more than estimated, Sestak-gate, leaky oil pipe-gate, Blago/Team Barry/Chicago Machine-gate and now Romanoff-gate. Grab the chair, get some popcorn. It’s showtime!

    I have to think Dear Leader will implode long before anyone could get him declared ineligible.

  82. #82
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Go on down Blago …

    And bring your buddy Barack with you.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  83. #83
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 12:54 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Obowmao couldn’t do anymore damage even if he was the chief engineer of Skynet!

  84. #84
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 1:16 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    And remember, too, that a Clinton-supporting superdelegate, the Arkansas Democratic chairman, was shot and killed shortly before the convention. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. To me, it feels like mob wars between two crime families – the Clinton crime family and the Obama crime family.

    [my emphasis]

    Yes, coincidence kills when you know the Clintons.

  85. #85
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 1:47 pm, letget said:

    I can hardly wait to see and hear what blogo is going to say in this trial. I hope there are things that come out that will take out the ‘nose in the air’ in almost every picture of this bho. IMO, this bho and team are slug slime.
    L

  86. #86
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 3:39 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Very interesting observations from a citizen researcher who goes by “ladysforest”…

    It has been advanced that both papers printed identical lists as the general rule. As I mentioned before, this was pointed out to add more “weight” to the (ahem) proof these newspaper birth announcements lend to obama’s birth story…

    So I pulled a sample size of ten days from each paper. I began the splendidly tedious process of comparing the incidence of the same birth announcements being listed in both papers. Mainly with an eye towards how often they matched in exact order.

    The only time this occurred in that particular way within the ten days that I researched, was on the dates that had obama’s birth announcements.

    And I even took the extra steps of comparing editions to a three day range (edition before, same date, edition after) of the sister publication. So, I tried to cover all the bases in a fair comparison.

    Well, OK. The ONE and ONLY time that the two papers published the birth list, beginning at the first announcement, in order, was in the editions that obama’s birth announcement appeared.

    This was indeed the only time that these announcements were printed this way, as the closest the papers came to doing this again never had all the same names listed in the exact same order.

  87. #87
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 4:10 pm, Chief RZ said:

    Corruption is their middle name, and they wear it with pride. These people have zero morality; no concept of right and wrong; good and bad–evil.

  88. #88
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 4:30 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Robert “The Human Joke” Gibbs defended Obama’s job offer to Romanoff.

    “The president, as the leader of the party, has an interest in ensuring supporters don’t run against each other in contested primaries,” Gibbs said.

    You see…. Obama feels it’s within his domain to control who runs in various elections. He and his band of thugs don’t even see this as a problem. They see it more as their right to dictate.

    Law???? What’s that?????

    This piece of human flotsam needs to be tossed out of the White House. He’s an illegitimate embarrassment to America.

  89. #89
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 6:21 pm, Truesoldier said:

    “The president, as the leader of the party, has an interest in ensuring supporters don’t run against each other in contested primaries,” Gibbs said.

    That would be fine if the administration had not offered a job (i.e. bribe) to get out of the race.

  90. #90
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 7:52 pm, happy2behere said:

    WHERE’S TEDDY KENNEDY? He should promise not run for anything ever again, so he can get offered a job in government. We could have a lot of fun with ‘dead folks in government’ jokes.

  91. #91
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:05 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    This looks like it is starting to unravel. A lot of people are implicated in this and I don’t know how it will play out but Hillary must be furious at Bill yet again for getting dragged into this insanity.

    This may well be the thing that ties up Obama between now and 2012. With more and more job offers popping up it is going to be difficult to shove it aside.

    If conservatives do well in 2010 and appear to be headed to even bigger wins in 2012 I can see this turning in to a Watergate-like scandal with Obama resigning and Biden stepping in, issuing a pardon and Hillary running in 2012 after she divorces schlemiel-in-chief Bill.

    The cover up is worse than the crime and this could tie up Obama and his agenda for the next three years if we are lucky.

  92. #92
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:12 pm, happyscrapper said:

    If Hillary runs in 2012, she’d better get a new hairdresser and stop looking like a talking robot. That woman puts me to sleep just by looking at her!

  93. #93
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:17 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Hillary will be a tough sell nationally but I suspect she will take a little time off for some “enhancements” prior to 2012. I don’t know who among the Dim-o-crats could challenge her.

    I expect she makes some deal with Obama to pay off her campaign debts and then skewers Obama anyway. She will have one of those “moments of conscience” and resign over some feigned indignation when she discovers what Obama has done…

    The drama should be interesting though not edifying or uplifting.

  94. #94
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 pm, swede said:

    If Hillary runs in 2012, she’d better get a new hairdresser and stop looking like a talking robot.

    DATELINE WASHINGTON: 21 January 2013

    Presiden Clinton wore a stunning aqua blue pants suit with blazing pastel orange accessories and a red Lincolnesque top hat to the inauguration. Unfortunately, on her way to the capitol she came under intense sniper fire from Boznian rebels. Without hesitation the “H Bomb” as she is afffectionately known, pulled out two Glock 9MM pistols and dispatched the snipers – arriving at the ceremony with time to spare. culminating her moving speech with:

    “My husband is NOT the President, I AM. If you want me to answer I will, but I’m not going to be channeling Billy. In fact my husband is no longer my husband. I am woman! Hear me rooooaaaar! cacklecacklecacklecackle

    *Wild cheers from adoring masses

  95. #95
    On June 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    WarEagle82,

    Don’t you think Obama offered Hillary Clinton the Secreatary of State job in return for conceding the Democratic Presidential primary?!?

    I fully believe that she was prepared to launch a floor fight at the Democratic National Convention, and only backed off when:
    1) Obama offered her the SoS job, and
    2) She realized that she did not have the numbers to win a floor fight.

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