Location of Chelsea Clinton’s Wedding Still a Secret (I’ll Bet Ecuador Knows)

By Doug Powers  •  June 21, 2010 01:21 PM

**Written by guest-blogger Doug Powers

The big day is approaching! Hillary’s imparting important marital wisdom to her daughter (“if he cheats and you’ll lose power by leaving, stay”) and Bill’s auditioning bridesmaids as we speak. But there’s one thing that not many people know — when or where the wedding will be:

The wedding of former First Daughter Chelsea Clinton to investment banker Marc Mezvinsky is this summer’s ultimate status invitation. There will be only 400 names on the guest list, a good size for a wedding by ordinary standards, but barely big enough to accommodate the people who slept in the Lincoln Bedroom during Bill Clinton’s presidency [most of them didn't want to come all the way from China anyway - DP]. So planning it has been a diplomatic problem of the highest order. “Donors are expecting to be invited,” says a major Clinton fund-raiser. Then there are the campaign, State Department, and Clinton Foundation staff, plus foreign dignitaries and both Clinton and Obama White House officials. These complexities, say bride-side sources, are one reason why Chelsea has instituted a strict no-strangers policy: She must personally know every invitee. (Of course, it’s also a way of giving her parents an out for donors who don’t make the cut.)

The secrecy has seemed more reminiscent of a giant military operation than a wedding. Early speculation was that it would be held on Martha’s Vineyard, but more recently sources have confirmed that the nuptials will be held on July 31 in a still-secret location within a three-hour drive of New York City. “The wedding planner will contact each guest directly a week in advance and let them know where it is,” says the fund-raiser, who speculated that the Hamptons are out because the L.I.E. can be a very long road. The smart money, then, is somewhere upstate, possibly in Westchester or Dutchess County—most likely on property owned by a Clinton supporter. “You really see who their closest friends are in this list,” says an insider. “It’s not a celebrity-driven wedding.”

I certainly do hope Chelsea Clinton’s wedding ends up somewhere off the Long Island Expressway — there’s something that would be apropos about invites sent out by Bill and Hillary having “L.I.E.” printed right on them.

Hillary said she was more likely to give up the nuclear launch codes than the date and location of Chelsea’s wedding, but since Obama’s probably already done that, Hil will have to find a more effective comparison.

And naturally, if you’re at a Clinton gathering, you won’t be able to swing a dead cattle future without hitting a crook:

If Ed Mezvinsky, the disgraced father of Chelsea Clinton’s newly-announced fiancé Marc Mezvinsky, attends his own son’s wedding, he might want to consider ducking out before the reception. Mezvinsky was convicted in 2002 of bilking his associates, friends and family members — even his own late mother-in-law — out of millions of dollars. Despite being released in April 2008 after serving five years in prison, Mezvinsky remains on federal probation and still owes almost $9.4 million in restitution to his victims.

Duck out before the reception? And miss a huge networking opportunity like that? Unlikely. They might as well skip Mezvinsky though when they pass the “help retire Hillary’s campaign debt” collection plate just before cutting the cake.

Do you think they’ll ask Bill to donate the “something blue” for the wedding?

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  1. #1
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:23 pm, TigerLady said:

    I’m going to try to muster up enough energy to care.

  2. #2
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:23 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    I’ll bet Ecuador knows

    Doug I love the humor…keep it up…MM great choice for your vacation host!!!!

  3. #3
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:26 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Catered by China I’m sure!

    Do they have to tell the Bridegroom where it is, or is that just a formality?

  4. #4
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:29 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    She must personally know every invitee.

    I hope not in the Biblical sense, I thought Bill was taking care of that?

  5. #5
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:31 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    Finding out when and where THE wedding is, is on my list of “Things I HAVE to Know Before I Die,” just under “Is the Loch Ness Monster really real?”

  6. #6
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:32 pm, letget said:

    It does appear chelsea is getting groomed for some sort of political life with the choice of hubby! She has had a mom and dad to give her advice how to get things done.
    I also want to say Doug, you are great choice for MM guest host!
    L

  7. #7
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:38 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Look for Bernie Madoff in the wedding pictures. He will be wearing the eyebrow, glasses, nose and mustache combo.

  8. #8
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm, Flyoverman said:

    If you want to take shots at Chelsea’s wedding, then you have no right to be indignant the next time Sarah Palin’s children are targets.

    Whether you like the Clintons or not (I detest them), this is a family matter.

    The bride and groom are not responsible for their parents’ conduct and past history. My vote is that this post be pulled.

    Sorry Doug, this one does not come up to standards.

  9. #9
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm, Hangfire said:

    Damned if I could marry poor Chelsea. She looks like a Windsor….

  10. #10
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:41 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    “Who gives this women in marriage?” My parole officer a I.

    sniffle, sniffle

  11. #11
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:41 pm, Hangfire said:

    I’m not saying the girl has an overbite, but Chelsea could eat pepperoni pizza through a venetian blind.

  12. #12
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:43 pm, Hangfire said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm, Flyoverman said:
    If you want to take shots at Chelsea’s wedding, then you have no right to be indignant the next time Sarah Palin’s children are targets.

    Ah, but Chelsea is OVER 18.

  13. #13
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:46 pm, T-Bone said:

    Like Father, Like Son (or Daughter).

  14. #14
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:47 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    If Ed Mezvinsky, the disgraced father of Chelsea Clinton’s newly-announced fiancé Marc Mezvinsky, attends his own son’s wedding, he might want to consider ducking out before the reception. Mezvinsky was convicted in 2002 of bilking his associates, friends and family members — even his own late mother-in-law — out of millions of dollars.

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

    How many trailer parks are within a 3-hour drive from NYC?

  15. #15
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:48 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Ah, but Chelsea is OVER 18.

    As is Bristol Palin.

    Last time I checked the Gulf of Mexico is dying, the Internet is under attack by the FTC and Fannie and Freddie are hemorraging money.

    We have an election to win. BATTLE FOCUS.

  16. #16
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:51 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Chelsea is also a public figure – having campaigned for her mother at Universities all over the country.

  17. #17
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:55 pm, glockomatic said:

    DILLIGAF

  18. #18
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:57 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Last time I checked the Gulf of Mexico is dying, the Internet is under attack by the FTC and Fannie and Freddie are hemorraging money.

    That reminds me, do I go golfing or yacht racing this week? Choices, choices….

  19. #19
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:57 pm, tarpon said:

    Why would anyone want to marry an evil banker?

  20. #20
    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:58 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:51 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Chelsea is also a public figure

    And her wedding has what to do with the political discourse in this country?

    If she was trying to have a very public wedding you be sniping at her for that. How could she go about this in a way that would PLEASE YOU? What’s next her choice of restaraunts?

    The intellectual hyprocrisy on this thread is nauseating right now.

  21. #21
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:00 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm, Flyoverman said:

    If you want to take shots at Chelsea’s wedding

    Flyoverman is right–we must not be the punks John Edwards, Late Nite Jerks and media types are. Miss Hillary and the Arkansas White Trash are fair game but we should limited to that. So I am limiting myself to #10 and rather wish I hadn’t posted it.

    I never did care for the glitterati and self important parading their children around as if they were prize puppies. Mocking the glitterati and self important-Megan and Her Importantness Cindy McCains excepted, should be enough.

  22. #22
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:03 pm, tre said:

    *YAAAAAAWN*

    Wazat Doug? Didja say sumpin’?

  23. #23
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:07 pm, Hangfire said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:58 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The intellectual hyprocrisy on this thread is nauseating right now.

    I have never pretended to be an intellectual. I’m just a retired bubblehead, forgive me.

  24. #24
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:08 pm, rambler said:

    Are his parents ready to have the Clintons as in-laws? Not only would I want the wedding site a secret, I’d keep the entire marriage a secret. Bill isn’t done embarrassing his relatives yet.

  25. #25
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:16 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    If she was trying to have a very public wedding you be sniping at her for that. How could she go about this in a way that would PLEASE YOU? What’s next her choice of restaraunts?

    Yes, if I knew where she was eating.

    I will mock the Clintons forever. And no she doesn’t have to please me, and no, I am not displeased, and no this isn’t important, but it’s amusing, particularly since her new father-in-law is a crook.

    Bristol was 17 during the election. Chelsea is nearing 30, and chose to publicly campaign for her mother.

    Note that while Chelsea’s wedding is the event, Doug’s targets are Hillary, Bill, and Ed.

  26. #26
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:24 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Wow. Don’t they tell guys ‘if you want to know what a woman will look like, look at the mother’? Yeesh.

  27. #27
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:25 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Oh, and Hangfire? We always said

    “she could eat corn on the cob through a picket fence, second row over”

  28. #28
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:38 pm, Hangfire said:

    Actually, when Chelsea smiles it brings back fond memories of my childhood.

    My dad had a ’53 DeSoto.

  29. #29
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:44 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:38 pm, Hangfire said:
    Actually, when Chelsea smiles it brings back fond memories of my childhood.

    My dad had a ‘53 DeSoto.

    And when Hillary wears a skirt, it brings back fond memories of my childhood.
    I had a pet Stegosaurus.

  30. #30
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:46 pm, NestingHawk said:

    I’m pretty much with Flyoverman. This is picking on the family over personal issues that are none of our business, and below the level I expect of this blog. I wish Ms. Clinton the best in her marriage.

  31. #31
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:51 pm, Hangfire said:

    It is an American tradition to joke about the “Royal Family”, theirs and ours.

  32. #32
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:52 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:46 pm, NestingHawk said:
    I’m pretty much with Flyoverman.

    I’m afraid you two are giving the Clintons way too much respect. I have no truck with Chelsea, but her parents are two of the most despicable human beings known to man! It may not be very Christian of us, but they deserve all the ridicule we can muster. Now if you’ll excuse me, there’s some cool mud that needs wallowing in.

  33. #33
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:54 pm, Hangfire said:

    Doug started it! Nanner, Nanner, Nanner……

  34. #34
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:55 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    I have to agree with Flyoverman’s points. However, the MSM will be all over this—every outlet will be making this a huge spectacle. I’ve always felt that the shame associated with the Clintons was brought on by themselves. We, in flyover country, will always associate criminal malfeasance with both Clintons. It is what it is.

  35. #35
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:56 pm, Random63 said:

    This post is in poor taste. This is something I would have expected on Huffington, not Michelle’s site.

    Please leave the childish taunts for the liberal blogs.

    I wish the soon to be wed couple good luck and many happy years.

  36. #36
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:57 pm, Mister P said:

    How much will it cost the taxpayers?

  37. #37
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:58 pm, RedDog said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:43 pm, Hangfire said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:40 pm, Flyoverman said:
    If you want to take shots at Chelsea’s wedding, then you have no right to be indignant the next time Sarah Palin’s children are targets.

    Ah, but Chelsea is OVER 18.

    There ya go. She also seems to know how to play the game. Attach yourself to power. Get your hooks into some cash and then it’s all good. Mom and dad will do the rest.

    I dated an ATF agent who told me at the time of Bill’s first presidential campaign that she and about half of all Treasury agents tasked to security details were inclined to vote for Clinton for POTUS. After extensive contacts with the Clinton family, those still admitting to wanting to vote for Clinton fell to about one in ten. By all legitimate anecdotal accounts, this is a very coarse and vile family.

  38. #38
    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:59 pm, Truesoldier said:

    The wedding of former First Daughter Chelsea Clinton to investment banker Marc Mezvinsky

    But I thought investment bankers are evil….

  39. #39
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:00 pm, RedDog said:

    … but I hope she has a happy life and beautiful marriage.

  40. #40
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:00 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    The Clintons are committed to bringing about a society where no one has a right to privacy. And this wedding is a major social event in political circles so it is fair game. Not even close. The Clinton “family” is God’s gift to satirists. We have a duty to pile on.

    In an “intellectually honest” way of course. That goes without saying. Harrumph.

  41. #41
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:04 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:58 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The intellectual hyprocrisy on this thread is nauseating right now.

    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:07 pm, Hangfire said:
    I have never pretended to be an intellectual. I’m just a retired bubblehead, forgive me.

    Ditto, Hangfire! Some of these threads are not meant to be political, but to allow us to let off steam. I think the Clintons are fair game…ALL of them. If that is tacky, so be it. I have never claimed I wasn’t tacky!

  42. #42
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:21 pm, Hangfire said:

    If invited to the wedding, I would sport a yellow seersucker leisure suit, polyester, of course.

  43. #43
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:27 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:21 pm, Hangfire said:
    If invited to the wedding, I would sport a yellow seersucker leisure suit, polyester, of course.

    I’ll loan you my white belt and shoes.

  44. #44
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:29 pm, cheapseat said:

    But the Clinton’s need an investment banker in the family now that Hillbilly can’t turn 10k into 100k anymore. But the thought of Bill cheating on Hillbilly conjures images of interns stretched across Bill’s lap in the oval office, where Chelsea’s beau brings up thoughts of three sets of books in his office safe. Oh for the good old days.

  45. #45
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:30 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:00 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:04 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Linclon in his first inagural address appealed to “the better angels of our nature.”

    I do not recommend taking pleasure in things that come from the dark side of our nature. I won’t honor Progressives by becoming one of them.

    I also recommend we follow the words of Don Vito Corleone, “Its not personal; its business.”

  46. #46
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:41 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    I’m not good at this intellectual stuff. I get my inspiration from the greatest intellectual of all, Iowahawk. Big words when small words would suffice, haughty condescension, complicated sentence structure, obscure cultural references, Iowahawk has them all. And you never need a puke bucket.

    A better blog for those with finely-tuned but delicate intellectual constitutions than these crudely insensitive posts Doug is fond of.

  47. #47
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:45 pm, reshas1 said:

    Like nothing bad was ever said about the Bush’s daughter’s wedding by the left. Give me a break Flyover..

  48. #48
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:56 pm, Hangfire said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:30 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Linclon in his first inagural address appealed to “the better angels of our nature.”

    “I have little use for a man that can spell a word but one way.” A. Lincoln, 1862

  49. #49
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:57 pm, txvet2 said:

    They can’t cut the projected list considerably by eliminating all of the women that Bubba claims not to have had sexual relations with.

  50. #50
    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:57 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    I wish Chelsea and Marc the best.

    And I’ll freely admit that I’ve laughed at what Doug and some other commenters have written here. Most of the ridicule is not aimed at Chelsea and Marc, but rather at their parents.

    Hillary (Secretary of State) and Bill (Sestak job offer) are still very front-and-center in politics these days, and I think this post appropriately pokes fun at Hill & Bill, not Chelsea & Marc.

    And now, to jog your memory, here are some true Hillary quotes:

    “It’s time to put the common good, the national interest, ahead of individuals.”

    “It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few, and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity.”

    “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. ”

    “I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe.”

    “I hope we will come together as a nation and do whatever it takes to keep guns away from people who have no business with them.”

    “We have to build a political consensus, and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

    “We need to be as well prepared to defend ourselves against public health dangers, as we should be to defend ourselves against any foreign danger.”

    “I had a few ideas about health care, and I’ve learned a few lessons since then, but I haven’t given up the goal.”

    “Too many people have made too much money.”

    “I certainly think the free-market has failed.”

    “(We) can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

    “It’s time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in the entire economy, that they are being watched.”

    “The unfettered free market has been the most radically destructive force in American life in the last generation.”

    “The money has to go to the federal government because the federal government will spend that money better than the private sector will spend it.”

    “I will fight against the division politics of revenge and retribution.”

    “I am particularly horrified by the use of propaganda and the manipulation of the truth and the revision of history.”

    “Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?”

    The People’s Cube Quiz:

    Which Collectivist Said It?

    Quote Wars: Milton Friedman vs. Hillary Clinton

  51. #51
    On June 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm, purplepeep said:

    Flyoverman said:
    We have an election to win. BATTLE FOCUS.

    I think you can lighten up a bit, Flyman. Having a chuckle and winning elections are not mutually exclusive events.

  52. #52
    On June 21st, 2010 at 4:21 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 3:45 pm, reshas1 said:

    Like nothing bad was ever said about the Bush’s daughter’s wedding by the left. Give me a break Flyover..

    If you want to be at the level of the trolls who made those comments about the Bush children, the Palin Children, etc. etc. you are free to do so.

    I have plenty “high-value” targets for me to expend my ammunution on. Catty comments about this wedding will earn us no friends nor will it make any positive contribution that will help us in back one House of Congress.

    We seize a House of Congress we stop THE ONE cold. We seize one House of Congress we seize the committee chairs with their power to call hearings, issue supenoas and put people under oath.

    We fail to do that and Crime Inc. rolls on. In the words of my German ancestors, “Das is der Schwerpunkt.” Two years of a Democrat majority cramming crap down my throat is enough. I want it gone.

    I took my congratulatory letter from Bill Clinton outside and burned it. I hate the Clintons with a passion you will never understand. But the guy in the White House, his ilk, Nancy, Harry, et. all are the ones trying to destroy my way of life and freedom at the moment.

    How did focusing on ridiculing Bill and Hillary in 1996 work out for you?

  53. #53
    On June 21st, 2010 at 4:24 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm, purplepeep said:

    Easy purple. I have a vast array of Viking jokes and I know how to use them. ;)

  54. #54
    On June 21st, 2010 at 4:43 pm, purplepeep said:

    Flyoverman said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 4:16 pm, purplepeep said:

    Easy purple. I have a vast array of Viking jokes and I know how to use them. ;)

    I probably know most of them already, Flyman. Like the one where it starts snowing in Hell and one newly arrived poor condemned soul starts laughing. His Nibs asks “This is Hell, what are you laughing about?”. The poor soul replies “The Vikings finally won a Superbowl!!”

    At any rate, I think folks are just having some passing giggles, not really much of a political “focus”. So, I’m saying it’s not an either/or – false dichotomy situation(crack wise about Clintons or lose the elections)

    Personally, I’d like to see more Al Gore mistress jokes. e.g. “Al Gore invented adultery.” For humor that’s not me cuppa tea I take a pass and let others indulge as they may see fit. Different funnybone strokes for different folks, notta biggee, this too shall pass, yada, yada, yknow.

  55. #55
    On June 21st, 2010 at 5:07 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    I wonder if Elton John will sing?

    So the father of the bride has been impeached and the father of the groom is on probation? If you made this up nobody would believe you.

    But I guess you gotta get married in the Clinton family or their singular tradition of adultery would simply die out…

  56. #56
    On June 21st, 2010 at 5:17 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Clinton’s daughter getting married is right up there on the list of important events with weds trash pickup.

  57. #57
    On June 21st, 2010 at 5:58 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    How did focusing on ridiculing Bill and Hillary in 1996 work out for you?

    How did taking the high road in 2008 work out for you?

  58. #58
    On June 21st, 2010 at 6:24 pm, Doug Powers said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 2:54 pm, Hangfire said:

    Doug started it! Nanner, Nanner, Nanner……

    My bad!

    C-c-can’t we all just get along?

  59. #59
    On June 21st, 2010 at 6:33 pm, Doug Powers said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 1:23 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    Doug I love the humor…keep it up… MM great choice for your vacation host!!!!

    Thanks so much!

    You guys are the best.

  60. #60
    On June 21st, 2010 at 7:43 pm, Bob1234 said:

    The prospective groom is Jewish, and there has been some speculation about whether it will be a Jewish ceremony or not:

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35711515/ns/today-today_weddings/

  61. #61
    On June 21st, 2010 at 7:51 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Uhhh, please forgive me, but…….. I don’t give a rat’s damn about that spawn of traitors wedding…… whew…. that felt sooooo good..

  62. #62
    On June 21st, 2010 at 8:19 pm, Hangfire said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 7:43 pm, Bob1234 said:
    The prospective groom is Jewish, and there has been some speculation about whether it will be a Jewish ceremony or not:

    Oy vey!

    Was the cigar ceremony with Miss Lewinsky some Jewish rite? It won’t be performed at the wedding, I hope!

    Mazel Tov!!

  63. #63
    On June 21st, 2010 at 8:37 pm, cicerokid said:

    Slow newsday, Doug?

  64. #64
    On June 21st, 2010 at 8:39 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 7:51 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:
    Uhhh, please forgive me, but…….. I don’t give a rat’s damn about that spawn of traitors wedding…… whew…. that felt sooooo good..

    David…what have you been up to?? You disappeared for so long, I thought you had died. Are you still in Eagan? I missed you.

  65. #65
    On June 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm, vickisoup said:

    I am surprised to learn that Chelsea’s future father-in-law is a convicted con man who owes his victims over $9 million. I’m not sure I agree with Flyoverman that this holds no news value. I don’t see the purpose in ridiculing it, but think it’s fair discussion fodder.
    I think the wedding should be in the finest trailer park money can rent.
    Oops!
    Is that ridiculing?
    ;-)

  66. #66
    On June 21st, 2010 at 10:31 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I do recall Piper and Willow being minors, yet it’s still open season for the left to bash them.

    Sorry, but Chelsea is WAY OVER THE AGE of being “protected” at this point in her life.

    Whatever…the point is double standards still rule the day. Republican children? Open season no matter what their age. Democrat “children” at the age of 30…don’t you DARE!

  67. #67
    On June 21st, 2010 at 10:32 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Don’t worry vickisoup, Chelsea’s Mommy and Daddy did really well cashing out after their co-presidency.

    They have plenty of money for dear little Chelsea.

  68. #68
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 12:17 am, NestingHawk said:

    This is not about anybody’s age or party. I do not care how old Chelsea Clinton is and I do not care how old Bristol Palin is. They are off-limits as far as I’m concerned. They are not elected officials, and they did not choose to be children of elected officials. Also, these attacks would be below-the-belt/overly personal if they were elected officials.

    Also, it’s good in and of itself to try to have civil and on-topic political discourse, but it does also make conservatives look bad when some conservatives take below-the-belt shots at the families. When a liberal is forming a basis for re-evaluating their opinion of conservatism, is this what you want that liberal to see?

  69. #69
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 1:17 am, purplepeep said:

    NestingHawk said:

    I do not care how old Chelsea Clinton is and I do not care how old Bristol Palin is.

    Bristol is 19 and Chelsea is 30, Hawk. Neither are helpless children.

    They are not elected officials, and they did not choose to be children of elected officials. Also, these attacks would be below-the-belt/overly personal if they were elected officials.

    Coupla problems there – I already noted the “poor helpless children” appellation is not quite correct. Second, I think if you read the post, it was poking fun at the very mockable parents. No “attacks” on helpless toddlers in my reading. Besides, in both Bristol’s and Chelsea’s case both choose to live high profile lives as adults. If they “vant to be left alone”, they can go the Amy Carter route – after a few jackass stunts as an high profile adult, she removed herself from the public eye. (Or follow the path of all the other children of former presidents who chose a non-public, low profile life)

    And it’s absurd to claim politicians shouldn’t be “fair fare” for the mere mortal peons to mock, joke about or even to be subjected to outright insult. This has been true from Aristophanes to Leno. Now, the politicians have thrown themselves into the public arena for their own gain. Cue Harry S for his advice about hot kitchens.

    When a liberal is forming a basis for re-evaluating their opinion of conservatism, is this what you want that liberal to see?

    I suspect the odds of that happening are about the same as Pat Buchanan deciding to embrace Marxism after reading some imaginary post at Kos saying “Y’know – George Bush is a really great person”.

  70. #70
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 2:45 am, NestingHawk said:

    Purplepeep,
    I’m not accusing Ms. Palin or Ms. Clinton of being poor helpless children, or politicians of being better than anyone else. I’m accusing them of being people. I think that, being people, we should treat them better than this, and the same goes for anybody else. When I said I didn’t care how old Ms. Palin or Ms. Clinton were, I meant that, so I don’t know why you brought up their exact ages, unless you misunderstood my use of the word “children,” which in context I meant as an indicator of relationship, not age.
    So, you believe no liberal ever converts to conservatism, ever, or what?

  71. #71
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 2:48 am, NestingHawk said:

    And I think that, given the ridicule here centers around Ms. Clinton’s wedding, claiming the attacks center around Ms. Clinton’s parents is playing semantics.

  72. #72
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 9:22 am, purplepeep said:

    NestingHawk said:

    Purplepeep,
    I’m not accusing Ms. Palin or Ms. Clinton of being poor helpless children, or politicians of being better than anyone else. I’m accusing them of being people.

    Yes – and again – very high profile, public people who choose to stay in the spotlight of the world stage. We’re not talkin’ JC Salinger.

    I’m not attacking your world view where not even politicians can be laughed at, Hawk. I’m just saying I think it’s not reasonable to expect anybody, anywhere in the world not to take comic views of their politicians. In fact, the best politicians and the best leaders already possess the self-effacing ability to laugh at themselves.

    And I think that, given the ridicule here centers around Ms. Clinton’s wedding, claiming the attacks center around Ms. Clinton’s parents is playing semantics.

    It’s a congregation of mockworthy people – like the Academy Awards. If they commit even more foolishness and jackassery, such as Ryan O’Neal hitting on his own daughter at Farrah Fawcett’s funeral, they deserve all the ridicule they get.

    A pic of Bill surrounded by bridesmaids all wearing blue dresses would make anyone snort, chuckle and/or spray their monitors with coffee. Even the mental image is funny.

    So, you believe no liberal ever converts to conservatism, ever, or what?

    LOL, you’re talkin’ with a former very-far-leftie – but the world mugged me with the realities of life.

    What I wrote was that your hypothesis of how liberals become conservatives is absurd. As absurd as the converse example I provided.

    Could there ever be a case where a liberal felt some kind of instant enlightenment from a throwaway comment on a throwaway topic from one of the plethora of blogs on a world wide web? Of course, it’s possible. Of course, it’s possible I’ll win tonight’s Powerball – but I wouldn’t govern my life by that possibility.

    You have your worldview on humor – and I gotta say it does seems like a dire, gloomy one. Other folks have their own takes. It would be wrong for them to expect you to get a chuckle from their take on what is funny. Just as you can’t realistically expect them to ascribe to the notion you can’t joke about people.

  73. #73
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 10:23 am, spaceycakes said:

    Fine.

    I say we drag Amy Carter out again.

  74. #74
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 1:32 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    Here’s my take: Chelsea Clinton, by herself, in NOT newsworthy. This is news solely because of who her parents are. Because BOTH Hillary and Bill, who hold or have held prominent positions in and outside of government,well, that makes them the butt of many a joke and/or salicious remark. Same goes for their daughter. She will always be seen as THEIR daughter, not as Chelsea Clinton, her own person. Unfair? Yes, but that is the instant communication world we live in. Some people will always be jealous of Chelsea, just because she has lived a life of privilege and relative ease. So, making her their target of ridicule makes them feel vindicated. All I can say is, I’ve got my own relatives to deal with – heh.

  75. #75
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 2:08 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    She will always be seen as THEIR daughter, not as Chelsea Clinton, her own person. Unfair? Yes, but that is the instant communication world we live in. Some people will always be jealous of Chelsea, just because she has lived a life of privilege and relative ease. So, making her their target of ridicule makes them feel vindicated.

    Well, she went on the campaign trail for mom, thereby becoming a public figure. The fact that she refused to talk to reporters – including a 10-year-old – doesn’t make her off limits, she choose the public arena.

    If I recall correctly, Hubby-to-be works for Goldman Sachs – recipients of billions of your tax dollars. Which in a way might be one reason he can afford the $4 million condo in Manhattan. The apartment that’s too big to fail. Nothing to see here, move along…we all want to help out the rich with our tax money…

    And someone suggested that mocking these people is the same as mocking teenagers and special needs children.

    Really?

  76. #76
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 2:12 pm, Dave Turson said:

    On June 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm, vickisoup said:
    I am surprised to learn that Chelsea’s future father-in-law is a convicted con man who owes his victims over $9 million. I’m not sure I agree with Flyoverman that this holds no news value. I don’t see the purpose in ridiculing it, but think it’s fair discussion fodder.
    I think the wedding should be in the finest trailer park money can rent.
    Oops!
    Is that ridiculing?

    I like the way you think. And we shouldn’t leave out Chelsea’s future mother-in-law, Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinksy, who fell on her sword for Bubba.

    Feel the ghost of Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinksy:
    She was a fresh force in politics, a former TV journalist who won election to Congress in 1992 from a district outside Philadelphia that Republicans had held since 1916. Promising to oppose new tax hikes and fight to hold down federal spending, Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky came to Congress on the back of President Clinton’s coattails.
    Then she became the margin of victory for Clinton’s 1993 budget, which actually eliminated the deficit for the first time in decades by raising federal taxes on the middle class. She knew she was committing political suicide but felt it was the right thing to do. As she cast her vote, Republicans salivated at the opportunity to defeat her — filling the chamber with shouts of, “Goodbye Marjorie.” She was defeated in the next election. …

  77. #77
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 2:31 pm, NestingHawk said:

    On June 22nd, 2010 at 9:22 am, purplepeep said:
    NestingHawk said:

    Purplepeep,
    I’m not accusing Ms. Palin or Ms. Clinton of being poor helpless children, or politicians of being better than anyone else. I’m accusing them of being people.
    Yes – and again – very high profile, public people who choose to stay in the spotlight of the world stage. We’re not talkin’ JC Salinger.

    I’m not attacking your world view where not even politicians can be laughed at, Hawk. I’m just saying I think it’s not reasonable to expect anybody, anywhere in the world not to take comic views of their politicians. In fact, the best politicians and the best leaders already possess the self-effacing ability to laugh at themselves.

    That’s not actually my world view, and I don’t actually know where you picked up the idea that it was. Chelesea Clinton is not actually a politician, first of all. You say she has chosen to remain in the public view, but honestly, I follow the news okay and I have not seen her in any particular public format, and I think comments of the type I’ve seen here about her marriage and her marriage reception are wildly inappropriate regardless. I routinely crack jokes about Obama at home regarding his politics and his manner of handling his job. I attempted to crack a joke targeted at Rahm Emmanuel on another thread involving political manuevering. (Funny? Maybe not, but the effort was there.) This is mainly, in my view, about the particular humor in question being below the belt.

    And I think that, given the ridicule here centers around Ms. Clinton’s wedding, claiming the attacks center around Ms. Clinton’s parents is playing semantics.

    It’s a congregation of mockworthy people – like the Academy Awards. If they commit even more foolishness and jackassery, such as Ryan O’Neal hitting on his own daughter at Farrah Fawcett’s funeral, they deserve all the ridicule they get.

    Is that how you would feel about it if it were your, or a close family member’s, wedding reception under discussion?

    A pic of Bill surrounded by bridesmaids all wearing blue dresses would make anyone snort, chuckle and/or spray their monitors with coffee. Even the mental image is funny.

    I know a lot of people see it that way.

    So, you believe no liberal ever converts to conservatism, ever, or what?

    LOL, you’re talkin’ with a former very-far-leftie – but the world mugged me with the realities of life.

    What I wrote was that your hypothesis of how liberals become conservatives is absurd. As absurd as the converse example I provided.

    Could there ever be a case where a liberal felt some kind of instant enlightenment from a throwaway comment on a throwaway topic from one of the plethora of blogs on a world wide web? Of course, it’s possible. Of course, it’s possible I’ll win tonight’s Powerball – but I wouldn’t govern my life by that possibility.

    I admit I pretty much was already a conservative by adulthood. However, it seems to me like a lot of liberals are discouraged from thinking seriously about conservatism by a laundry list of stereotypes they are bombarded with that aren’t true. So I don’t think it’s really helpful for conservatives to, in some locations, seem to be doing their level best to live up to those stereotypes. If they were coming at it fairly, would they see that liberals have their own places where they do the same things? I believe so. But after the media bombardment, would you expect them to be thinking like that? I know your experience may be hugely different-I’m just talking about my perceptions of liberals I meet. And more as a pre-reconsideration possibility, not as something in the midst of the re-evaluation.
    Of course, I feel that there are more important reasons not to do it, but I thought it was a point worth making.

    You have your worldview on humor – and I gotta say it does seems like a dire, gloomy one. Other folks have their own takes. It would be wrong for them to expect you to get a chuckle from their take on what is funny. Just as you can’t realistically expect them to ascribe to the notion you can’t joke about people.

    I have no idea where you are picking up your ideas on my worldview on humor. Sincerely, I don’t. I take in a lot of comedy in my entertainment diet, and have a tendency to laugh at things that were meant to be serious, so really, you don’t have to worry about me being gloomy. This isn’t about all humor, or even about all humor directed at real people-it’s about who are acceptable targets and what constitutes below the belt. It’s about civility in political discourse and regarding other people as human beings. I think attacks on marriage ceremonies of virtually anybody and children of public figures of any age are below the belt and lack civility. I also do not see an argument that either Ms. Palin or Ms. Clinton have led a life in the same publicity league as their parents upon adulthood.

  78. #78
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 2:48 pm, purplepeep said:

    AlohaGuy said:

    Well, she went on the campaign trail for mom, thereby becoming a public figure. The fact that she refused to talk to reporters – including a 10-year-old – doesn’t make her off limits, she choose the public arena.

    Yup, AlohaGuy – you court celebrity, you pay for it.

    Nothing to see here, move along…we all want to help out the rich with our tax money…

    Hear, hear! I agree, AG. Haven’t “children” like Paris Hilton suffered enough without the unwashed hoi polloi telling jokes about her? :)

    And someone suggested that mocking these people is the same as mocking teenagers and special needs children.

    Really?

    Yeah, that is an odd comparison. While I don’t mock special needs children, I have no problem with making fun of teenagers. You can’t laugh about people under what age exactly – 18, 21 or the new “still a helpless child” age of 25 (under Obama)? Oy.

    I could write a 12 volume novel comprised of all the ribbing I endured before I was even 16 (and that’s just the grief my siblings gave me, lol). It’s part of real life – it’s a good teacher in learning to laugh at yourself and not to take yourself over- seriously.

    Maybe I need to embrace and claim my “inner victimhood”? :)

  79. #79
    On June 22nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky also wanted to be Senator Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky:

    Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky narrowly won election to Congress in 1992, but she lost her re-election bid primarily because she cast the deciding vote for President Clinton’s tax bill, which was unpopular with her constituents.

    “She earned an honored place in history, with a vote she shouldn’t have had to cast,” Bill Clinton wrote in “My Life,” his 2004 memoir.

    Margolies-Mezvinsky attempted a political comeback in 2000 by running for Senate, but had to drop out due to her husband’s financial and legal troubles.

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