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1. #1
   On July 7th, 2010 at 9:59 am, Michael A. Jackson said:

   I hope that highlighting these attacks on the rule of law finally get the public to throw these people out.

   America as a whole cannot be as stupid as the folks in California on these issues.

2. #2
   On July 7th, 2010 at 10:10 am, no2pcbs1 said:

   since the doj is mainly made up of activist garbage posing as lawyers, who will most certainly not side with Americans on the illegal alien issue, it is up to all law abiding citizens to fight back and show the doj cockroaches who really runs this country.

3. #3
   On July 7th, 2010 at 10:11 am, Flyoverman said:

   America as a whole cannot be as stupid as the folks in California on these issues.

   Indignant response form PasadenaPhil in 8, 7, 6, 5…..

   Sorry Phil, couldn’t resist. For the record lots of stupid people on this issue here in Flyover Country so….

4. #4
   On July 7th, 2010 at 10:13 am, Flyoverman said:

   There is nothing in DOJ that could not be corrected by a good fumigation. The Orkin man need to visit that place.

5. #5
   On July 7th, 2010 at 10:20 am, Dexter Alarius said:

   In 2006, Casa de Maryland threatened to protest at the schools of children whose parents belonged to the pro-immigration enforcement group, the Minutemen

   I call Foul. When these scumbags start harassing children because of the politics of their parents, they’ve crossed a line that shouldn’t be crossed.

6. #6
   On July 7th, 2010 at 10:22 am, WarTip said:

   It is doubtful at best that any politicians will actually stand up and decry this behavior by our centralized federal government despite what the constitution requires. What is truly sad is that their efforts have been so successful as to lead much of the population to come to think in such a manner … if it can be called thinking in any real sense of the word. One would “think” that with unemployment rates being so high, people would “think” it would be better to send illegal aliens home and give those jobs to Americans … but then again, one would have to be interested in actually working and not just sitting idly by sucking on the social welfare teat.

7. #7
   On July 7th, 2010 at 10:26 am, WarTip said:

   On July 7th, 2010 at 10:20 am, Dexter Alarius said: I call Foul. When these scumbags start harassing children because of the politics of their parents, they’ve crossed a line that shouldn’t be crossed.

   That would only be true if they were the children of Socialist/Communist activists. Remember that historically, the “useful idiots” of Mao and Marx (et al) were kept around until after the new system was firmly in place, they were no longer needed and only then were they lined up against the walls and executed.

   Of course, what does real world history have to do with any of this? This time its going to be different because they have that whole “hope and change” thing figured out now.

8. #8
   On July 7th, 2010 at 10:32 am, ThackerAgency said:

   I miss the days when the American government represented America. Is it too much to ask that American tax dollars be spent defending Americans?

   KSM to NY, close gitmo, indict US soldiers, sue Arizona, pawn off any responsibility for protecting America on BP. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

   Seriously, the people in DC use American money to punish America. Without DC, America would be a much better place.

9. #9
   On July 7th, 2010 at 10:34 am, right_on said:

   Ironic that Holder said that America was a nation of cowards, regarding race. Here is an entire administration of cowards. None of the people who should be on top of this issue, are.

   No Holder. No Nappy. No Obamao. No National Guard.

   “Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourselves!”

   Residents of the border states MUST be prepared to defend themselves, since this administration has neither the will, nor the courage to do it’s sworn duty.

10. #10
    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:34 am, Speakup said:

    Why sue?

    Its just business politics.

11. #11
    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:36 am, jamesgreenidge said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:20 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    I call Foul. When these scumbags start harassing children because of the politics of their parents, they’ve crossed a line that shouldn’t be crossed.

    Unfortunately most every Big Apple schoolchild from junior high up of conservative backgrounds know it’s best to keep mum about it and fake toeing the line else receive tons of grief from schoolmates AND teachers. Even NewYork-1 Cable-TV here treats conservative minded kids like lost souls off the reservation. It’s even gotten worst since the Green agenda got rolling; don’t expect your atomic energy science fair project to score any points here, as poor young lady discovered ago.

    James Greenidge
    Queens NY

12. #12
    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:39 am, maisy said:

    After yesterdays actions and the Panther case I think the O in Obama should be utilized in a new name for the Prez.
    The OUTLAW President.

13. #13
    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:39 am, ThackerAgency said:

    When, on the other hand,
    left-wing cities across the country pass illegal alien sanctuary policies that flagrantly defy national immigration laws and hamper cross-jurisdiction enforcement, the newfound federal preemption advocates are nowhere in sight.

    well said.

14. #14
    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:43 am, Ragspierre said:

    Great disinfecting there, Michelle!!

    Keep letting that sun shine in…!!!!

15. #15
    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:46 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    HI FLYOVERMAN–#4. I want to see the U.S.A. scrap all of our current Immigration Laws. But instead of open borders amnesty–let’s implement and enforce a version of Mexican Immigration Laws–modified for the U.S.A. Two years in jail for the first offense, and ten years for subsequent ones.
    ***
    As far as cleaning out the DOJ–Raid and the Orkin Man can’t even get to first base. I vote for bringing THE TERMINATOR out of retirement to “community organize” that cesspool.
    ***
    Support good conservative candidates financially and “teaparty” our country’s enemies. Vote out Comrade Obama (PBUH), His congressional enablers, and the fellow travelers (aka useful idiots) in the 2010 and 2012 elections.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

16. #16
    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:48 am, vickisoup said:

    “…depicting federal immigration agents as armed bullies making babies cry”

    The only time I ever saw this was Clinton’s INS thugs’ “seizure” of Elian Gonzalez.

17. #17
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:05 am, flmom said:

    You gotta love Obama’s fair-weather friends of the Constitution. When a state acts to do the job the feds won’t do, Obama’s legal eagles run to the Founding Fathers for protection. When, on the other hand,
    left-wing cities across the country pass illegal alien sanctuary policies that flagrantly defy national immigration laws and hamper cross-jurisdiction enforcement, the newfound federal preemption advocates are nowhere in sight.

    I don’t know about loving them, but I do see an alarming pattern of selective prosecution of the law with this administration.

18. #18
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:21 am, Ragspierre said:

    I don’t know about loving them, but I do see an alarming pattern of selective prosecution of the law with this administration.

    Which is another way of saying there is no rule of law.

    Caprice is inimical to law.

19. #19
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:21 am, jrgdds said:

    If only Arizona had hired the New Black Panthers to stand around on the border, threatening the incoming illegals with nightsticks this would never have gone to court.

    Now, the Obama Administration,as well as the ACLU with Mexico’s support have filed suits to stop SB 1070 from taking effect. Someone is striking the right cords in Arizona!

20. #20
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:25 am, Mostly Annoyed said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:46 am, rocketman said:
    ***
    HI FLYOVERMAN–#4. I want to see the U.S.A. scrap all of our current Immigration Laws. But instead of open borders amnesty–let’s implement and enforce a version of Mexican Immigration Laws–modified for the U.S.A. Two years in jail for the first offense, and ten years for subsequent ones.

    Only if Sheriff Joe runs the prisons, even then 2 years in a US prison is better than 10 dyas in a Mexican prison.

    Securing the border, stopping money transfers and jailing people hiring and protecting illegals, even if they are priests, is the only way to put a stop to the problem.

21. #21
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:28 am, Jeff2161 said:

    Arizona asks for help.

    Today, we received official notice of the federal government’s lawsuit against the state of Arizona.

    I am sure you will agree with me that the Administration’s lawsuit is an outrageous use of taxpayer money and a sure sign that the President is more interested in politics than securing our southern border.

    This lawsuit follows the President’s immigration speech in which he called for comprehensive immigration reform that – not surprisingly – includes a path to citizenship for those who entered our country illegally.

    Let me be clear, I will defend the rule of law all the way to the Supreme Court of this land if necessary. I will continue to demand that the Federal government live up to its responsibility to control our Southern border and to protect our homeland. And, I will oppose the President’s amnesty plan.

    But I need your immediate help today.

    In order to respond to President Obama’s lawsuit I have set up a legal defense fund to pay the legal fees that Arizona has been forced to incur as a result of all of these lawsuits.

    I urge all Americans who want a secure border to contribute to this fund immediately.

    This is not just an Arizona issue, this is an American issue. Are we or are we not going to enforce the rule of law in America? The burden alone should not be shouldered by Arizonans. Arizona needs you to answer the call today, right now.

    Make no mistake; Arizona’s immigration law affects the safety and well-being of every U.S. citizen. The federal government has failed to enforce the rule of law.

    As long as the Federal Government refuses to do its job, I will ensure that Arizona continues to live by a rule of law.

    Your immediate donation of $250, $125, $75 or whatever you can afford you can afford will go directly into fighting President Obama’s lawsuit. I do ask that you make this very important commitment today so we can immediately begin to defend against the President’s actions.

    Arizona is the front line of our nation’s illegal immigration crisis. The federal government is broken and our border is not secure. That is why Arizona had to act.

    I will not stop fighting to protect our country. I will defend us in federal court and we will continue to do the job President Obama refuses to do.

    Sincerely,

    Governor Jan Brewer

    https://az.gov/app/keepazsafe/donation_information.xhtml

22. #22
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:33 am, frostrt said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 9:59 am, Michael A. Jackson said:

    America as a whole cannot be as stupid as the folks in California on these issues.
    —————————————

    I will be eternally grateful that my parents moved out of California while I was but a wee babe, and I don’t remember anything about it. The folks drove thru Tijuana once; my Mom was, apparently, scared to death. If it was bad then . . .

23. #23
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:33 am, RTater said:

    Make no mistake; Arizona’s immigration law affects the safety and well-being of every U.S. citizen.

    Case in point – http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-theives-free-victim-arrested-txt,0,231586.story

    82-year-old Robert Wallace said in February that he looked out his window and saw two men hooking his flatbed trailer up to their pickup. He yelled at them to stop, but they sped away, stealing his trailer. He told police he fired two shots at the pickup.

    Minutes later, police say 32-year-old Damacio Torres dropped 28-year-old Alvaro Cardona off at a hospital emergency room with a gunshot wound to the face.

    The Jefferson County DA’s office said that neither Torres nor Cardona have been charged with anything at this point, even though Torres confessed to the crime. However, the homeowner, Wallace is facing twelve felony counts, including four counts of attempted first degree murder. If convicted, he could spend the rest of his life behind bars.

24. #24
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:35 am, SpeakEasy said:

    Is there any reason Arizona could not build a wall across their own borders? If enough Americans sent in donations to pay for the materials, could they not build a fence on their own land?

    The fed can try to say they have sole authority to set policy (not that they have the sense of duty to do so) but they can not regulate what Arizona builds on their own land, right?

25. #25
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:37 am, SpeakEasy said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 9:59 am, Michael A. Jackson said:
    America as a whole cannot be as stupid as the folks in California on these issues.

    Are you sure? Have you met our president?

26. #26
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:40 am, Jeff2161 said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:35 am, SpeakEasy said:

    Is there any reason Arizona could not build a wall across their own borders?

    We could deport them ourselves too… Just backup the prison van…

27. #27
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:43 am, frostrt said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:35 am, SpeakEasy said:

    The fed can try to say they have sole authority to set policy (not that they have the sense of duty to do so) but they can not regulate what Arizona builds on their own land, right?
    —————————————

    I would think so. I also have to laugh at the argument that immigration law/enforcement is the Feds’ responsibility alone. If you won’t TAKE responsibility for something, don’t complain when someone else does what you can’t/won’t do, claiming it’s your job and not theirs.

    Brewer/Palin 2012

28. #28
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:49 am, Jeff2161 said:

    Arizonans… ‘Just doing the job the feds won’t do’.

29. #29
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:59 am, Michael A. Jackson said:

    The only reason that Obama was elected is because of California voted for McCain in the Republican Primary. If they had voted for Romney, we would not be having these problems now. McCain was the designated loser chosen by the mainstream media with help from Florida’s Charlie Christ, and California’s Arnold Schwarzenegger. Huckabee did not help either as he split the vote ensuring a McAmnesty plurality.

30. #30
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:00 pm, GJCorby said:

    It never ceases to amaze me that everyother country enforces it’s immigration laws with near draconian efficiency, yet we are racist for even thinking about it.
    In the Republic of Korea (South Korea) raids on factories are a daily occurance, immigration police on the street constantly ask for one’s papers. If you don’t have them or they are expired then you go straight to the immigration detention facility in Suwon, no judge, no jury, do not collect $200. you are then fined $1000 per year you were in the country illegally and/or sentenced to one year inprison per year illegal, then you are unceremoniously deported back whence you came. The South Korean’s favorite target is anyone who looks like they are Philippine in origin (or as the left calls it Racial profiling).
    In Italy you are simply put you on the next boat out their favorite targets are people from Africa, and the Balklans (again Racial Profiling) again no judge, no jury.
    Let’s not even talk what happens in Mexico if you are illegal down there besides the legal ramifications at least 2 years in prison, you will be exposed to rape, beating and murder. I am not sure you can call it racial profiling do there as they are doing this mostly to people of their own race for lack of a better term it can be called Nationalist Profiling.
    So even with Arizona’s immigration law (which has yet to go into effect) America still has some of the most liberal immigration laws in the world.
    All I can say to those wanting to come here please use the front door, sign as you enter and the line forms to the right please take your place.

31. #31
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:01 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    I will be eternally grateful that my parents moved out of California while I was but a wee babe, and I don’t remember anything about it. The folks drove thru Tijuana once; my Mom was, apparently, scared to death. If it was bad then . . .

    Drive through parts of Los Angeles or Orange County sometime. You’d think you were in Tijuana…and your mom would have that very same reaction. And it is much worse now…just ask any legal citizen of Maywood, CA.

32. #32
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:05 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    America still has some of the most liberal immigration laws in the world.

    By intentional design to eradicate our judeo-christian heritage. The key word is really progressive, not liberal.

33. #33
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:05 pm, frostrt said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:01 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Drive through parts of Los Angeles or Orange County sometime. You’d think you were in Tijuana…and your mom would have that very same reaction. And it is much worse now…just ask any legal citizen of Maywood, CA.
    —————————————

    For that matter, just ask any legal citizen – anywhere, of any ethnic background – about Arizona’s law, and they’ll say that they support it, especially 1st and 2nd generation legal Americans who resent others ignoring the law and expecting the same rights they had to earn.

34. #34
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:05 pm, flmom said:

    Which is another way of saying there is no rule of law.

    Taken to it’s logical conclusion, you’re right. Now if you are someone with the right political currency, then the law is whatever you twist it to be. See; Tim Geithner.

35. #35
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    I want to see if the judge can keep a straight face when the read the part about the commerce clause and impeding the trafficking of illegal immigrants.

36. #36
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:13 pm, MacEamonn said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 9:59 am, Michael A. Jackson said:

    I hope that highlighting these attacks on the rule of law finally get the public to throw these people out.

    America as a whole cannot be as stupid as the folks in California on these issues.

    Michael,

    There is ample evidence that the majority of the American people are that stupid. How else can you explain Odumbo and the Dimocrat majorities in both houses of Congress. We’ll see how many learned anything in November.

37. #37
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:14 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    This case could have the impact of trimming the way the feds have used the commerce clause and rebalancing state’s rights back toward the states. Obama could very well find this whole mess backfires on him and his leftist types big time.

    This is such a great time to be alive!

38. #38
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:17 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “There is ample evidence that the majority of the American people are that stupid.”

    I completely disagree. The polls show that the majority of Americans are indeed NOT that stupid. The majority of Americans know exactly what is going on with Obama and why his policies and political philosophy is very bad for personal prosperity and liberty.

    The very best hope we have is each other. Americans who do get it, are not stupid, and are becoming more and more motivated and participatory.

    I very much disagree that the majority of Americans are “that stupid”.

39. #39
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:19 pm, J S Ragman said:

    a notorious illegal alien advocacy group funded through a combination of taxpayer-subsidized grants and radical liberal philanthropy, including billionaire George Soros’s Open Society Institute

    I’m a little confused as to why George Soros is such an open borders kind of guy. If there weren’t any borders, he would have nowhere to go to escape prosecution.

40. #40
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:29 pm, frostrt said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:19 pm, J S Ragman said:

    I’m a little confused as to why George Soros is such an open borders kind of guy. If there weren’t any borders, he would have nowhere to go to escape prosecution.
    —————————————-

    Soros the Nazi Collaborator seems to be all for anything that could/probably will harm us as a country: open borders . . . blanket legalization of drugs . . . liberal democrats . . .

41. #41
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:30 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    If there weren’t any borders, he would have nowhere to go to escape prosecution.

    No worries for him. He’d be among the new world order ruling elite….there would be no prosecution for him.

42. #42
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:34 pm, Lindsay said:

    I hope the Arizona legislature is air-tight and makes these DOJ boobs look like buffoons.

43. #43
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:38 pm, Jeff2161 said:

    In seeking an injunction to block the law from going into effect

    July 29, Attorney General Eric Holder said he sympathized with Arizonans and others who are “frustrated with illegal immigration.”
    

    Read more…

    We don’t need your false sympathy…

44. #44
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:47 pm, T-Bone said:

    How does a guy like George Soros have so much money to throw around? Some of these causes are not money makers for him, altough some are. He puts millions into Media Matters, Acorn, political campaigns, 527′s, advocacy groups, etc. Isn’t he a foreigner?

    I didn’t see Obama during the State of the Union speech worrying about foreign corporation money coming from George Soros who must clearly be the largest political contributor of all time. He seems to have his money in everything. Where does it come from? Isn’t he Hungarian? Is Russia padding his wallet with pass through money.

    Hey DOJ, we need an investigation. Oh you are too busy suing good Americans who are trying to protect themsleves. Why worry about someone who is attacking American citizens them because it benefits you politically. Slime.

45. #45
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:49 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 9:59 am, Michael A. Jackson said:

    I hope that highlighting these attacks on the rule of law finally get the public to throw these people out.

    America as a whole cannot be as stupid as the folks in California on these issues.

    And when did Arizona’s border become part of California? Hello? anybody home?

46. #46
    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:57 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 12:17 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:
    I very much disagree that the majority of Americans are “that stupid”.

    How about “easily led astray?” Oh, they are starting to wake up now but when Obama was just a senator they ignored most of his socialist talk for the soundbites. It is often hard to admit you were conned but admitting you have a problem is the first step. Being informed takes some real effort and the majority of Americans are complacent.

47. #47
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:09 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    So why are they not also going after Rhode Island who has been doing exactly what the AZ law will do since 2006!!

    http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/07/07/feds-sue-arizona-but-what-about-rhode-island/

48. #48
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:09 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    How about “easily led astray?”

    Nope. Again the current situation in America speaks against such a conclusion.

    The majority has clearly not been lead astray.

49. #49
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:12 pm, John Deaux said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:48 am, vickisoup said:

    “…depicting federal immigration agents as armed bullies making babies cry”

    The only time I ever saw this was Clinton’s INS thugs’ “seizure” of Elian Gonzalez.

    That’s because Cubans and Cuban-Americans have seen first hand what the left path leads to and are largely conservative.

50. #50
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:14 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “Arizonans… ‘Just doing the job the feds won’t do’”

    Nope. That is as unequally untrue as a characterization of SB1070 as is the left’s as it being hateful racial profiling.

    “Is there any reason Arizona could not build a wall across their own borders?”

    Even if we did that would not solve the problem. The main open borders/routes is on federal land or Native American land.

    The native american leadership is of course, why am I not surprised, talking out of both sides of its mouth at once. They want money to help them combat the impact on native american land from traffickers of people and drugs but don’t want to secure the borders.

    You can read such for yourself at the Native American congress meetings where they all come together to complain that tax payers aren’t giving them enough money.

51. #51
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:14 pm, Hangfire said:

    No Melanin, No Justice!

    The DOJ only cares about people of color. All their lawyers are Communist Idealogues.

52. #52
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:15 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Rhode Island

    Because RI has no border with Mexico? Because the radical latin population does not think RI belongs to them and Mexico as they do with the Southwest?

53. #53
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:18 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On the illegal alien front, police are now searching the Springfield, MA, area for an illegal Guatemalan who brutally raped a four year old girl.

    http://www.wggb.com/Global/story.asp?S=12762148&nav=menu1460_2

    My guess is that he is hiding among supporters in liberal Amherst MA.

54. #54
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:21 pm, JamieD said:

    It seems the progressives or anyone who fights against our society (i.e. Soros, Obama, ACLU, Leaders of the Democrat Party, etc.), have a single goal: Destroy what Christians have created, regardless of the cost.

    In all the mind boggling events of this administration, it has become clear that this is not an attack on America directly, but rather an indirect attack on anything “good”. The criminals are in charge and are motivated by vicious hatred for the “goody two shoes” type individuals of our society and everything they have created, a.k.a. America.

55. #55
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:32 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Because RI has no border with Mexico? Because the radical latin population does not think RI belongs to them and Mexico as they do with the Southwest?

    Probably. The latinos would probably have to fight with the radical muslims over control of RI anyway.

56. #56
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:33 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    It seems the progressives or anyone who fights against our society (i.e. Soros, Obama, ACLU, Leaders of the Democrat Party, etc.), have a single goal: Destroy what Christians have created, regardless of the cost.

    No seems about it. That is their goal.

57. #57
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:37 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    jsmiddleton4 said: Nope. Again the current situation in America speaks against such a conclusion.

    I guess we are seeing different conclusions; I see a populace who elected a snake-oil salesman as their leader. Just because they are finally seeing the light does not excuse them from ignoring all the signs when he was only a candidate. There are none so blind as those who will not see. The gullible are often outraged eventually.

    Building a wall in Arizona will send the same message SB1070 did, “we will do what the federal government will not.” Reportedly, right after SB1070 was passed many illegal invaders deported themselves- not enough, but some. The more consistent the message, the more resonance. I prefer action to rhetoric and Gov. Brewer seems to agree.

    BTW, I don’t think you and I differ much either fundamentally. And I live in Arizona as well.

58. #58
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:38 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “That is as unequally untrue”

    Sorry.

    That is as equally untrue…..

    Double negatives get me every time.

59. #59
    On July 7th, 2010 at 1:42 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “I guess we are seeing different conclusions”

    What conclusion is that? That its okay to misrepresent SB1070?

    Arizona’s law does not take over doing immigration because the Fed’s have failed, does not write immigration law, does not do anything new in terms of immigration laws.

    Read the law and keep it straight. The left is going to use all the misrepresentation they can to gain some edge. We on the right can at least keep it straight and in doing so disarm that m.o. of the left.

60. #60
    On July 7th, 2010 at 2:05 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    jsmiddleton4 said:

    Slow your roll Captain. We were obviously speaking past each other as I made no claim contrary to your statement:
    

    Arizona’s law does not take over doing immigration because the Fed’s have failed, does not write immigration law, does not do anything new in terms of immigration laws.

    I was responding to:
    

    How about “easily led astray?”
    Nope. Again the current situation in America speaks against such a conclusion.
    The majority has clearly not been lead astray.

    I was speaking of electing an idiot (or socialist, same thing) to the office of president.

    And I still say building a wall on Arizona land would send a clear message.

61. #61
    On July 7th, 2010 at 2:11 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The DOJ lawsuit is DOA. Smoke and mirros to placate the radicals.

    Obama now 38% approval among Independents.

    I this before the election. Obama is not Cinton. Clinton is a politician who will morph himself to get and remain in office. In that respect he’s pragmatic. Obama is a theorist and a radical Marxist idealog, with racist tendencies. He is on an ideological mission to implement Marxism and punish capitalists. People, like Bill O’Reilly, do not underatand this. They cannot understand why Obama does not compromise, does not discuss, and refuses to change course on anything.

    Obama came to rule and control; not govern.

62. #62
    On July 7th, 2010 at 2:20 pm, Southpaw said:

    America as a whole cannot be as stupid as the folks in California on these issues.

    My city council in California passed a resolution supporting SB1070.
    How about the rest of you folks?

63. #63
    On July 7th, 2010 at 2:28 pm, T-Bone said:

    My take.

    GW Bush was relected after taking SEVERE abuse from Democrats and the media in this country. They attacked him for political gain during war time. The American people did not like that and relected him to win the war.

    After relection, he lost Congress to the Dems. They saw their attack Bush policies as being moderately effective and turned up the dial. This is effect made GW a lame duck almost immediately.

    The Dem controlled Congress under Nancy and Harry began attacking Bush wthout mercy. Their henchmen in the media offered help to that cause at every turn. The more effective it was, the more they did it, up to almost derangement status.

    Enter Obama. He had been groomed as the next leader since the 2004 Democratic Convention. Here they had a racial candidate that spoke well and had charisma. So much so, that he eclipsed Hillary. With Bush in the dumps, the media and Democrats piling on, a weak republican candidate, and a well spoken racial candidate they had the perfect storm.

    In addition, Rahm Emanual went around the country finding “moderate” Dems. They knew they would say they were moderateas but were not. Clinton taught them this. Say whatever you need to say to be elected (join the KKK if you need to).

    They also had Acorn which was a key player. Acorn, with taxpayer funding, made an effort to register every black person in the country. They took them to the polls. Blacks came out in force with most every one voting for the black man. Yes, I believe it was a racist vote by black people. Issues be damned, he’s black like me.

    They rode the disatisfaction with the war, the constant pounding on Bush, the registration of inner city blacks, and the mass mobilization of same to the polls to gain the victory. There was probably some hanky panky going on in the open primaries that gave us the McCain candidate which was very weak.

    So all of this against a weak candidate created the mess we are in. Some stupidity, some racism, some media lies and distortions, along with a half black candidate that spoke well and was well versed in Alynsky style Chicago politics. He was helped by the media that hid his radical connections so many people did not know or did not believe them. All IMHO.

    Has the truth come out yet? Since he is still in the 40% approval rating, I would say not. When he gets to less than 30% then I thnk people see the real Obama and his destructive policies and outright lies.

    Please excuse my ranting. Its cathartic.

64. #64
    On July 7th, 2010 at 2:54 pm, swede said:

    Flyoverman said:
    The DOJ lawsuit is DOA. Smoke and mirros to placate the radicals.

    Obama now 38% approval among Independents.

    Flyman is wise. I caught this at Gallup today as well. I think we often forget here that the Indies are the majority and are in large measure politically illiterate – or at best appathetic. They can be swayed right or left by any candidate with some charisma and a message that resounds with their schema – i.e. keep my taxes down and income stream viable. They bought into the bogus hopeychangey Sham Wow, and buyers remorse is huge. Barry needs to shore up his foundering base first before going after the Indies. He knows they will lose the AZ suit, but it doesn’t even matter – it’s all perception.

    Clinton is a politician who will morph himself to get and remain in office. In that respect he’s pragmatic. Obama is a theorist and a radical Marxist idealog, with racist tendencies.

    Clinton was nothing if not predictable in that he bent which ever direction the daily Gallup winds were blowing. Dropped his liberal agenda to get his polls higher. Barry will fall on his dogmatic sword rather than bend to the pragmatic realities. A good thing in the long run, no?

65. #65
    On July 7th, 2010 at 3:36 pm, Flyoverman said:

    swede,

    Others have commented on this site in the past that Obama is an empty suit who takes his orders from the person/people who are really pulling the strings.

    Do you think that this may also be a reason for his inflexability?

66. #66
    On July 7th, 2010 at 3:47 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Do you think that this may also be a reason for his inflexability?

    Yes, and combine this with TEH WONs narcisism and its a double whammy.

67. #67
    On July 7th, 2010 at 3:47 pm, tonyr951 said:

    Q. If Adam Gadhan said Al-Qaeda had a nuke and was bringing it across the Mexican border, would Obama still use the “border is too big to secure” excuse?

68. #68
    On July 7th, 2010 at 4:13 pm, Ragspierre said:

    This DoJ lawsuit is just the opening salvo, and may be the weakest.

    Plan on seeing a civil rights suit, with “horribles” ginned up by the Deemocrats in Phoenix and Tuscan.

69. #69
    On July 7th, 2010 at 4:19 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    I watched Casa de Maryland president Gustavo Torres (who met with President Obama last week) complain that motor
    vehicle administration officials have “absolutely no right to ask for people’s Social Security number or immigration status to get a driver’s license.” I stood among Casa de Maryland grievance-mongers
    who shouted “No license, no justice! No justice, no peace!”

    Someone should tell Gustavo to be careful what he wishes for. That “No Peace” thing he threatens us with could backfire very easily. He and his “friends” might just anger Americans a little too much.

70. #70
    On July 7th, 2010 at 4:33 pm, swede said:

    Flyoverman said:
    Obama is an empty suit who takes his orders from the person/people who are really pulling the strings.

    Do you think that this may also be a reason for his inflexability?

    A good question. If you’re referring to Soros and the MoveOn folks, I’m not sure how much influence they actually wield. Someone else may have more insight there, but I’ll guarantee the Chicago Machine have their hooks into him big time. You can’t come out of that cesspool. Ever. If you use them, they own you. The Blago Flying Circus is just beginning and should be a great show.

71. #71
    On July 7th, 2010 at 4:52 pm, Ragspierre said:

    I’ll guarantee the Chicago Machine have their hooks into him big time. You can’t come out of that cesspool. Ever. If you use them, they own you. The Blago Flying Circus is just beginning and should be a great show.

    Hell, Shellie Obama is double-scary… I think she’s WAY meaner than THE ONE…!!!

    Remember what her daddy said…

72. #72
    On July 7th, 2010 at 5:32 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 2:20 pm, Southpaw said:

    America as a whole cannot be as stupid as the folks in California on these issues.

    My city council in California passed a resolution supporting SB1070.
    How about the rest of you folks?

    Thank you!

    And in Pasadena, we are about to elect a conservative Republican who was recruited by the Tea Party (TEAPAC)!

    For the blockheads who post here who blame their state’s problems on California is no different than blaming black people for all of their problems.

    California is NOT the enemy. The globalist forces that control both parties and are taking us down state by state are the enemy.

    BTW, the oil Gulf oil spill? Stupid eskimos!!!

73. #73
    On July 7th, 2010 at 7:47 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    “California is NOT the enemy.”

    Pretty sure several of the folks that are showing up in AZ to cause trouble are based in California.

    Yes?

74. #74
    On July 7th, 2010 at 7:52 pm, Hangfire said:

    On July 7th, 2010 at 5:32 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    California is NOT the enemy. The globalist forces that control both parties and are taking us down state by state are the enemy.

    True, of course. However many of the ills besetting other states have their seeds in California.

    After the tumultuous ’60s, California is the test bed of New World Order.

    Banning offshore drilling, shutting down producing wells, driving military bases out, generating its own EPA (since the Federal EPA wasn’t tough enough), entitlements, Rodney King riots, militant homosexuals, high taxes, high gasoline prices, militant environmentalism, etc. make California the example other states point to when providing an example of what doesn’t work. In my not-so-distant youth, California had the most dynamic economy in the nation. California is the first domino.

75. #75
    On July 7th, 2010 at 10:37 pm, Savage24 said:

    It’s a good thing that bank robbers don’t present a larger bloc of voters. If they did the Feds would quit enforcing that law too.

76. #76
    On July 7th, 2010 at 11:02 pm, Azygos said:

    Are they going to sue California also? They have the same law already in effect.

    834b

    Since when is it ok to attack citizens of a sovereign state? As for building a wall the majority of the border is federal property or as others have pointed out Indian land. And the reservations here almost always vote for the party that will give them the most federal dollars.

    As for Sb1070 many of the departments have implemented it two years ago as a test run. So far no challenges as to profiling or racism have surfaced.

77. #77
    On July 8th, 2010 at 9:40 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    The bigger issue with the Native Americans is not their desire for handouts, or justice by sticking it to the white man, its they don’t recognize any borders but their own. Putting up a fence through what they consider “their” ancestors land, their “nation”, the whole matter will be a heads on full frontal assault. It will be portrayed in unimaginable negative ways.

    The sad thing is its only on THIS side of the border that the Native Americans are recognized as a nation, a people, etc. While the Tohono O’odham Nation on this side of the border are some of the poorest Native Americans as compared to other Native Americans in the US. The Tohono O’odham Nation folks that live on the Mexican side of the border, they are even poorer still. Totally unrecognized as a people group. Why they don’t gather themselves up and move on the US side is mind boggling.

    There is way more to the border issues than is being reported.

    I’m excited to see how the light that attacking SB1070 is going to create shines…….

78. #78
    On July 8th, 2010 at 9:43 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Gotta wonder too about this assault on US borders that is being driven by the SW belongs to Mexico issue would impact Tohono O’odham Nation. Mexico does not recognize them, would not, the folks driving the attempt to take back the SW US and make it Mexico would not extend Tohono O’odham Nation the rights they have with their land being within the US.

    Why would Tohono O’odham Nation not support enforcement and secure borders?

    I don’t get it.

79. #79
    On July 8th, 2010 at 10:17 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    I totally missed this….

    “And in Pasadena, we are about to elect a conservative Republican who was recruited by the Tea Party (TEAPAC)!”

    Phil is bragging about the election of a REPUBLICAN! Man, who would have guessed such a thing would happen.

80. #80
    On July 8th, 2010 at 10:18 am, Mach1Duck said:

    Prehaps Arizona should sue the Federal Government. Arizona and the rest of the states are bearing the cost of illegal immigration which is a Freeral responsibility which they obviously are not doing. Then following that suite, Arizona needs to sue the country of Mexico for the cleanup cost of the border area, and cost for incaration, hospitals, education and law-enforcement for Mexican citizens crossing the border illegally.

81. #81
    On July 8th, 2010 at 11:20 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    This just keeps getting better and better.

    “Justice Department attorney Tony West is a member of the so-called “Gitmo 9″ — a group of lawyers who have represented terror suspects.”

82. #82
    On July 8th, 2010 at 12:02 pm, Southpaw said:

    And in Pasadena, we are about to elect a conservative Republican who was recruited by the Tea Party (TEAPAC)!

    Star Parker looks like a good candidate too. She’s running agaist Laura Richarson in the 37th over in Compton. Richardson is the lady who just had that ethics investigation about her foreclosed house in Sacramento. Imagine a Republican black woman beating a corrupt Democrat in the heart of Los Angeles.

    She needs support:
    http://www.starparkerforcongress.com/

    Also, Nick Popaditch (a Marine) in the 51st down on the border:
    http://www.onceamarine.com/

83. #83
    On July 8th, 2010 at 12:46 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Feds attacking another state.

    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-louisiana-governor-bobby-jindal-plan/story?id=11111136

84. #84
    On July 8th, 2010 at 2:28 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Star Parker looks like a good candidate too. She’s running agaist Laura Richarson in the 37th over in Compton. Richardson is the lady who just had that ethics investigation about her foreclosed house in Sacramento. Imagine a Republican black woman beating a corrupt Democrat in the heart of Los Angeles.

    You’ll be so glad to know Laura Richardson was cleared in the ethics investigation. Good luck to Starr on her enormously difficult task. Too many braindead voters in that wierdly jerrymandered district like a corrupt Democrat representing them.

85. #85
    On July 8th, 2010 at 3:21 pm, tarpon said:

    If Obowma was your answer, have you considered how stupid your question must have been?

86. #86
    On July 8th, 2010 at 11:26 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38155762/ns/us_news-life/

    Isn’t this just the opposite reasoning as compared to the bases of the feds case against AZ?

87. #87
    On July 9th, 2010 at 4:19 pm, redbug70 said:

    Anyone who associates liberalism with pacifism and gentility is way behind the times. In this era of Jon Stewart and Bill Mahrer anything goes. Now you can actually threaten violence, use racist terms & vulgarities and still be a good liberal! It is okay to say the most vile things possible about those who view the world differently than you! You can save the planet, end racism and promote abortion on demand simply by attacking those you don’t like. And remember – it isn’t wrong if it is being done by a liberal!