Another ass-kicking: 5th Circuit rejects White House drilling ban appeal
Just in: The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has just denied the White House request for a stay on U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman’s order striking down the Obama blanket deepwater drilling ban.
Ass. Kicked. Again:
A U.S. appeals court on Thursday rejected the Obama administration’s request to put on hold a ruling that lifted a temporary moratorium on deepwater drilling in the wake of the BP Plc oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
The ruling is a setback for the White House which had sought to suspend deepwater drilling of new wells for six months while it investigated the cause of the April 20 explosion aboard the Transocean Ltd. rig and adopt new stricter safety regulations.
…The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, based in New Orleans, ruled about 90 minutes after hearing arguments over the administration’s request to put on hold a lower court ruling that lifted the six-month moratorium.
Interior Department Secretary and fraud doctor Ken Salazar is expected to finally “revise’ the moratorium, but it’s reportedly too late for some companies that are already moving rigs and workers overseas for projects.
Heckuva job, Team Obama. Heckuva job.
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Looks like the court has figured out who’s ass to kick.
I wonder, was Justice Kennedy’s announcement to hang on until at least 2013 the curt calling Obowma out?
Hmmm, they overstepped. Hubris? Oh, yes.
I hope everyone sees the pattern here.
We used to call this type of person a ‘flash in the pan’.
Eventually you will all feel sorry for Obama because of how hated he is.
Here’s his pattern since coming on to the political scene. Starts with a bang and head start (won senate seat due to implosion of R candidate). Then Alan Keyes changed his address to run against Obama in Illinois and almost beat him.
He then started out big in Iowa with the caucuses. He won there. Then Hillary won NH. He won SC. Then Hillary won several states until finally the much heralded Obama wins.
then McCain basically couldn’t have won a contest against himself but still gets nearly half of the votes.
Obama is a fader. Like a horse that runs out of the gate quickly until he fades. This is Obama. He’s fading fast. Everything he does will put him further behind.
Mark this down. . . you will feel sorry for how hated Obama is before the end of his term. It hasn’t even started yet and I already feel sorry for him. He’ll be a lovable loser. But a loser nonetheless.
notice they had the ban long enough to get the rigs to move. probably planned that all along
I won’t feel sorry for Obama.
I plan to be first in line at my polling place to “kick his ass” out of office, November 2012.
On July 8th, 2010 at 7:26 pm, ThackerAgency said:Mark this down. . . you will feel sorry for how hated Obama is before the end of his term
WRONG…
I will not feels sorry for Dear Leader. No way.
Will this appeal go all the way to SCOTUS?
Heckuva job, Team Obama. Heckuva job.
I know you must have been tempted to use another noun for “Team Obama.”
I applaud your restraint.
How long before Harvard and Columbia sue for defamation of character?
Oh, well. Maybe Obama can get a ban on major league baseball due to the danger it presents Americans:
Fan falls from second deck in Texas, Rangers-Indians game halted
Mallard Fillmore
Fell sorry for Obama??? No way…
Everything the man does goes against what I think is good in this country. I think the man is so self centered that he can’t see beyond his own golf score. He is out to destroy, not to build and in my mind that equates to an evil purpose if not to an evil person. No I won’t feel sorry, I will feel relieved when he is out of office. The sooner the better.
The young, inexperienced Barry Obama may come to realize (one day) that we are a nation of laws, not men.
None of the rigs that were shut down under the moratorium have re-opened so I don’t get the point of pursuing the moratorium. These were no producing wells but wells still being drilled. None of the producing wells were affected by the moratorium.
Also, the speed of the decision and the reported wording of the ruling suggest that the court will have no patience for endless appeals. Apparently, there was an admonishment contained that reminded the administration that executive decisions are subject to judicial review.
CNBC’s Larry Kudlow believes that the courts are preparing to close the door on this issue by the end of the month.
CRASH: 5th Circuit Upholds NOLA Court Ending Moratorium
As I predicted, the 5th Federal Circuit Court Of Appeals, one of the most respected in recent history, upheld the injunction granted by a Federal District Court, ending the Obamic Gulf drilling moratorium.
It only took the justices about an hour to return their decision, which I think reflects the general contempt for the pretext behind the moratorium. That contempt is well earned, as it springs from the obvious facts surrounding Sec. Ken Salazar’s mendacity in perverting the report of a panel of experts he consulted prior to issuing his ban on deep water drilling in the Gulf.
I have a feeling this bho and team will go into full mode here. NO ONE dare buck what this bho wants to do to crater our Republic! Two courts have dared.
I just pray that my country and those who love our country will stand together to stop this maddness by this bho and team, IMO.
Goodness, the golf game will be way off this week-end!
L
http://hindenblog1.blogspot.com/2010/06/burn-was-today-dawning-of-day-of-court.html
I asked that question a couple of weeks ago.
It appears we have cause to hope.
No, and our feelings are utterly beside the point in any event. Obama doesn’t care what you feel or think about him. He is a whole different kind of beast than Carter and Clinton. He is much closer to Lenin. He and his minions intend to grab power, one way or another, and hold it to make this nation into the United State of Zimbabwe.
So what if he is defeated in 2012? Big deal. Do you think he is going to quietly retire to Illinois and write another volume of memoirs? Not exactly. He will simply announce he was defeated by racism (anti-racism is the new communism) and thus he remains the rightful ruler of America, his work uncompleted. He will then establish his army (Thomas Sowell is the only commentator who has discussed Obama’s longing for a private army), funded by islamic money for the most part. It will be an army of terror, think of it as an al-queda squared and cubed, and manned by islamites and leftists of all colors it will wreak havoc on this country.
People who think that Obama is going away are in for a surprise. Just as there is no moderate Islam, there is no moderate black nationalism, which he was steeped in for a generation. Well before the end of the decade, we will learn how deadly that combination can be. A lot of people are going to die. I have never known a leftist who did not long for a race war. They will get their wish. We are heading towards our own version of Oct, 1917.
[Note: All this assumes we have not already surrendered to a foreign power and instead of Leninist America we merely have Vichy-America. Arguably, the result will be pretty much the same: Obama, President for life and all that entails.]
A living example of the Peter Principle, but he reached his level of incompetence some time ago and there’s no upstairs left to which he can be kicked.
No, I won’t. I will exult in the schadenfreude.
He will never be lovable. The hightest he can ever rise is to execrable.
Make no mistake, people.
Obama IS incompetent in many respects, but not all…
not by any means.
I’ll be doing it sooner than that – I’ll be voting Democrat in the primaries Spring 2012, just for the satisfaction of voting against him.
Then I’ll early vote in the fall, just to be one of the first to help get rid of him.
Granted, all of this hinges on running a Republican that could actually win…
The moratorium is an ounce of prevention versus a pound of cure.
The moratorium affects about 30 platforms out of a total of how many actual producing wells? Of the deep water wells that are using the same technology as the horizon well, what are the chances of another accident? I don’t know, and who does? Why shouldn’t caution be the watchword?
Moreover, should there be another accident, do assets exist to deal with it?
I would have preferred a moratorium that allowed for the operation of the deep water wells after they have been deemed to be safe. Yep, check out, review, examine, study, certify, etc. the deep water wells . . . and, then allow them to continue to drill, knowing that each has passed muster.
Finally, why hasn’t the horizon rig been brought to the surface to be examined? That would go a long way to justify, or render the moratorium necessary, or unnecessary. And yes, that might also allow for the recovery of the eleven people who lost thier lives in the accident.
Ziggy, when you don’t know anything about what you are talking about…you might want to just STFU.
Now if we can get the judge in the AZ case to tell barry to stick it we’ll be a bit better off!!
ThackerAgency said:
Mark this down. . . you will feel sorry for how hated Obama is before the end of his term. It hasn’t even started yet and I already feel sorry for him. He’ll be a lovable loser. But a loser nonetheless.
Nah, Thacker, I expect even the flies that he seems to constantly attract will desert him long before then. Though he’ll still be a steaming pile (not a “lovable loser”).
“When you’ve lost the flies…”
zyzzz, that’s not the point.
the point is that this wouldn’t be a disaster if the clean-up were handled well by the feds BEFORE it got to shore. If we immediately started skimming with every available skimmer, there would be virtually ZERO impact to the environment.
but the main point is that what Obama did with the moratorium was and is against the law according to the judge.
Obama won’t ever be loved again. he’s a fader and he’s not going to come back again. if the stock market sinks again and states start to declare bankruptcy. . . the president will say ‘BUT I GAVE YOU HEALTH CARE!’
No job, no house, no car, no credit, and the jokers in DC give you health insurance (actually they don’t give it to you, they give you a ‘discount’ from the IRS after their law raises rates).
No doubt they wish they could get it to the anti American 9th Circuit. And then their collective asses would be kicked by the SCOTUS yet again.
You can bet their lawsuit against AZ will be similarly prepared.
Hopefully, this will prompt them to do something really stupid.
They’ll be back quickly with a separate moratorium that will need to be fought off… they’re like Marxist Energizer bunnies with unlimited amounts of the public’s money to borrow and throw around.
Nice to know that the court system hasn’t totally rolled over for Hopenchange though… that’s an encouraging sign.
Since we don’t know when traffic accidents will happen, why shouldn’t caution be the watchword? Therefore, we need a ban on driving and on people crossing the street. After all, we lose tens of thousands of American lives each year in such accidents.
“lovable loser”? Like the lovable Karl and Josef? Hardly.
The strategy in the Gulf and AZ is to fight off locals by keeping in court. It doesn’t matter if the feds lose in the long run. It’s prevailing in the short run.
If they can keep challenging the 5th Circuit’s stay on the drilling moratorium, the uncertainty will keep the drillers from re-starting those wells. It is very expensive to turn them on and off and on and off. I believe that is why the 5th Circuit admonished the feds about appeals.
In AZ, all the feds want is to win a stay on the implementation of SB1070. The state would then be urgently pressing to try to expedite the lifting of such a ruling so as to not get bogged down in court.
If the feds fail to get the stay, wouldn’t that be the end of it? They can’t possible win in the end and by pressing on, they would be wasting money without accomplishing anything. Not being a lawyer, I am not qualified to evaluate the fed case but it looks to me like a contrived way to claim preemption while withholding real hard evidence on the basis of executive privilege (diplomatic issues and the importance of secrecy in national security matters).
I would think that AZ could argue that the government has not constitutional right to bankrupt/destroy/sacrifice a state for a higher purpose. Citizens not only have a right to defend themselves, it has been the first moral imperative since time immemorial.
The feds don’t have to win in the long run. They just have to get their way long enough. I hope the courts see it that way but I wouldn’t know how to enter that argument into the case.
I have admitted what I do not know. I have asked questions. Why do you have a problem with that?
Speaking for myself, I’m going to feel sorry for Barry once everyone hates him. I’ll get over it. I’m very resilient.
Remember those “first responders” Mr. Obama sent initially at the gulf spill….yes, do believe those were…..lawyers.
obama is a Demon, make no mistake. He certainly doesn’t care what we feel or think. He is totally different from ANY other major politician in American history. Truly the first post-American President.
His soul is so dark, so evil, so devoid of Christian decency… words fail. He is from the darkest depths of the radical swamps of the political left. His hatred for people like us, for what America stands for, is total and complete. He is on a personal crusade to destroy the last remnant of the nation that he has hated since childhood.
We have had a Demon cast upon us. Make no mistake about it. He is from hell.
Our opinions differ, and I accept that reality. I still maintain that a moratorium is a good idea until each individual well is cerified safe. When it is certified safe, then resume drilling.
Ummm, the clean-up is the responsibility of the drillers. The drillers filed documents asserting that they could handle spills, leaks and blow outs. Yes, the Feds are responsible for verifying those documents submitted by the drillers.
OK, but is it wise to continue to allow deep water drilling using the same technology as the horizon? Especially since the resources necessary to deal with another spill, leak or blowout are strecthed thin? Heck, non-existent.
Again, I am not saying there should be no deep water drilling. Take one platform at a time and verify that it is performing safely. Then put it back on line. Certifying the safety of one deep water drilling rig should not take six months.
LOL. A bit off subject, though I enjoyed the laugh.
Again, I appreciate the humor though it is off topic.
Nope.
Far more is known about traffic than deep water drilling. Apples and oranges.
Recall, I said the rig should be pulled up and examined. I also said, each rig should be certified for safety before returning on line and it should not take six months to do one rig. Do you have a problem with that?
It’s nice to know there are still some judges that do more than just work the penis pump under the robe.
Just the opposite. It’s a lot less safe to start/stop/start/stop a drilling operation than to continue it. It’s also a lot more expensive to have the rigs sitting around not doing anything. If the government persists in this moratorium in the face of this ruling, you can expect many if not most of those rigs to disappear. There’s plenty of work elsewhere in the world.
The moratorium affects every rig drilling more than 500 feet down. The last I knew, nobody else was drilling in over 5000 feet of water, which was why this well was a big story when they hit a good pool. The difference between 500 feet and 5000 feet is huge. Virtually none of the problems they’ve had sealing this well apply at 500 feet due to depth and sea pressure, and they’ve drilled hundreds, if not thousands, of wells at depths of 500 feet or more. With the thousands of wells drilled in the Gulf, there has only been one previous major leak – and that was 30 years ago off of Mexico.
Meanwhile, they’ve had hurricanes blow production platforms completely off of wells with no spillage. That’s what a containment system is for. In this instance, they were in the process of installing the containment system when the well blew and the rig exploded. My understanding from what I’ve read is that the BP company man made a couple of bad decisions trying to cut corners and costs because they were shutting down the well due to the instability that eventually caused it to blow up.
Good idea. Glad the feds thought of it about 50 years ago. The DH had been checked and given a clean bill of health only a few days before the blowout.
There probably isn’t anything left of those 11 men. There was an explosion and fire, not a shipwreck. They may try to float what’s left of the rig, but it’s down a mile and it’s in pieces and it’s big. Really, really, big. Think of an aircraft carrier big, but nowhere near as solid. If and when they try to float it, it’ll probably take years and right at the moment, your wishes notwithstanding, they’ve got bigger problems than a post mortem.
Nope, no ban, but fans won’t be allowed to stand and will be required to be buckled into their seats. and stadiums will have to have plexiglass walls just like hockey games.
lovable loser??? not hardly. But I’d love to see him kicked out of office nonetheless.
Sez who? But even if that were the case it obviously hasn’t stopped accidents nor does it guarantee they won’t happen.
Nope, it’s called illustrating absurdity with absurdity. Life is unpredictable, things that people plan for don’t happen and things that people don’t expect will happen.
Yeah, I think we should get right on that right about the same time we certify that all drivers won’t have an accident and everyone’s shoes are inspected to be sure they can cross the street safely.
Until then we need a ban on driving and walking. I assume you’re against thousands of people being killed, so join me in the call for a ban and together we’ll demand a risk-free life!
You forgot requiring spectators to wear helmets.
Some inmates in mental wards used to be kept in straight jackets. They were pretty safe, but I imagine it was a pretty dull life. What Zyg doesn’t seem to be able to grasp is that the oil business, like mining, is inherently dangerous, and hundreds are injured or killed every year, both on- and off-shore. That’s why the pay is so high.
No, chump, mark this down…you feel sorry for Obama? And you expect me to join you someday? Don’t hold your breath because I won’t be sorry and Obama won’t be lovable until the 12th of Never.
There may be people who will, but I can guarantee I won’t be one of them.
I detest the man. He sickens me.
A starring role for him in a reality TV re-make of Midnight Express would not make me feel sorry for him.
Thacker Agency, I believe you’ve misjudged most people, especially American loving, conservative Americans. You have them confused with liberal feel good fools. Barack Hussien Obama is a traitor to America, period.
I myself detest this piece of scum as I do any other enemy of my country, the United States of America. I will never forget nor will I forgive what he has done to this country and he wants to do to this country.
I will never submit to any person or form of government that does not believe in or govern by the Constitution of the United States as it’s guiding document.
Obama is inept and he may indeed fade. From now until the Republicans are sworn into the majority in the house next January,he will go pedal to the metal with his agenda. Until then, he will be at his most dangerous. I’ll never feel sorry for that traitor.
Wonder who’s ass was really kicked?
Considering that the “original” thread on this topic can’t be found with it’s more than 100 comments …
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/06/23/ken-salazar-gets-an-ass-kicking-over-to-you-capitol-hill/
You mean that one…?!?!?
Salazar’s ass was kicked. And quite appropriately, too. Unless you like cabinet heads who lie, cheat, and steal.
thanks for the link ^^
Not a chance. Truth is that is how I felt about Carter, but he was a very different type of Democrat. He didn’t set out to “fundamentally transform” this country and was just plain hapless. Obama is taking a wrecking ball to the US and is oblivious to the damage he is causing. If we ever get him and his progressives down again I say we keep our boot on their throats and continue the a** kicking until every politician in the country runs from the label and policies of the lib/progressives.
beenthere & ThunderHawkk–
dudes after my own heart.
Thanks.
I would agree with using that logic when it comes to our southern border and illegal aliens…here’s yet another reason why:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1266725
Did Justice Kennedy signal there would be nobama at the SC?
Why are the Courts doing this if not.
I doubt Obowma likes this anymore than he does strong women speaking out against hi. The old moose in his shorts problem.
Sure seems a tad like some child trying to get there way doesn’t it.
To quote John Wayne —”that’ll be the day”.
1) Near zero
2) Most anyone with 1/2 of a brain including Obama
3) Caution is the watchword on a daily basis for the same reason you don’t drive 65 miles an hour, drunk through a school zone every day of the week, even if you knew the police would not arrest you.
DUH!!!
“Ya, got that right, Baby Sister.”
Here at the J S Ragman Institute for Mine and Oil Well Safety, we have already done a study, and we have concluded that the best new safety regulation is to drill onshore instead of in water a mile deep.
That will be $10 million, please. Thank you.
And a bargain at that.
If ziggy would read, and follow the links back through my posts, his questions/comments would be a LOT more intelligent.
I suspect Thack realizes that by now and sits corrected.
I must say, I do admire Mr. Obama’s tenacity. While it’s unfortunately directed at subverting the rule of law for his own tyrannical means, you have to give him credit for sticking with it.
Ummm, the deep water drilling projects have been suspended (stopped) and there have been no problems.
BP has alotted $100 million to deal with the shut down rigs. Oh, and thank you for not disputing the 30-odd rigs that have suspended drilling and acknowledging that the thousands of other wells are still producing.
Yep, there are plenty of other places where those rigs could go and that is why I support certifying each well ASAP so as it can resume drilling. Six months to asses the safety of the wells is reasonable. Keeping a safety cetified well shut down for six months is ridiculous.
More clearly – the moratorium should be a window that allows for the the certification of the safety of each individual well. The moratorium is acceptable as long as it allows the resumption of drilling once the well has been certified safe. Do you agree, or disagree?
Again, thank you for not challenging the 30-odd wells the moratorium affects, or that the moratorium does not affect existing producing wells.
Virtually none of the problems they’ve had sealing this well apply at 500 feet due to depth and sea pressure, and they’ve drilled hundreds, if not thousands, of wells at depths of 500 feet or more. With the thousands of wells drilled in the Gulf, there has only been one previous major leak – and that was 30 years ago off of Mexico.
OK.
And, the containment systems that are being installed on the 30-odd new wells that the moratorium affects present no problems because those drillers are not making the same bad decisions that BP has made? I’d like to know before those 30-odd wells are completed.
Again, let’s know what is going on before another accident happens.
Yep, not only should the drilling be scrutinized, but the methods used by the Government to certify the wells be scrutinized, too.
More than one thing can be done at a time. The leak should be stopped. The clean-up should be done. Reviewing current drilling safety should happen. Addressing the the needs of those impacted by the accident should continue. Et cetera.
There is nothing mutually exclusive to all these efforts. They all must be addressed.
Do you really want the cliche? We must walk and chew gum at the same time.
Recovering the rig has the potential to speed the resumptiom of those rigs affected by the moratorium. Knowing exactly what went wrong will help in determining what to look for in those other rigs in order to certify their safety.
Lastly, I am hopeful that you are not dismissing the possibility of recovering the remains of those lost.
Sez history. How many years of traffic history and study has there been versus the number of years of deep water drillng history and study? Yep, there are few guarantees with regard to traffic accidents.
Yet, consider the many safety improvements over the course of studying traffic safety to minimize accidents. To mention a few ABS brakes, adding reflectors to the painted lines on the roads, speed bumps on local roads, etc. OK, now consider the changes to deep water drilling safety in the past several years. Good grief we are still using 30-year old technology to deal with spills.
Yep, life is what happens to you while you’re making plans. And yes, it is absurd to compare traffic safety with deep water drilling safety.
OK, more absurdity.
Even more absurdity.
I do not support a ban on deep water drilling. I support deep water drilling safely.
I support the industries that enable prosperity throughout the world.
What? Should I not have said that?
Freezing to death in the dark is an inconvenient option.