Pamela Anderson Banned in Montreal; PETA’s Photoshop Guy Worked Overtime For Nothing

By Doug Powers  •  July 15, 2010 02:18 PM

**Written by guest-blogger Doug Powers

Montreal has denied Pamela Anderson a permit to launch her latest animal rights campaign for PETA, which will rid the city of the following poster:

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I’m no expert, but judging from recent pictures of Anderson, I think that’s Photoshopped. That poster eclipses Good Housekeeping’s Michelle Obama ‘shop job.

In any case, Pam’s poster says that all animals have the same parts, but something’s missing. What body part that most other animals have is appropriately not listed on Anderson’s PETA poster?

You guessed it:

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I’ll be cooking steak & burgers on the grill in a while — feel free to do the same!

**Written by guest-blogger Doug Powers

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  1. #1
    On July 15th, 2010 at 2:55 pm, GJCorby said:

    Meat is murder, tasty tasty murder.
    I’ll have mine med. thank you.

  2. #2
    On July 15th, 2010 at 2:56 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Of course, those steaks and burgers don’t contain silicon implants.

  3. #3
    On July 15th, 2010 at 2:58 pm, chapoutier said:

    Wait…the home of Club Super Sexe and Club Super Contact somehow decided that this poster was out of bounds?

  4. #4
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:03 pm, letget said:

    Sorry, but I have not a clue who this gal is or if I should care. If the recent picture is correct, she is not just eating veggies!
    L

  5. #5
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:07 pm, purplepeep said:

    chapoutier said:

    Wait…the home of Club Super Sexe and Club Super Contact somehow decided that this poster was out of bounds?

    Well, we’re talkin’ Canucks, Chap. What has been called “a train in search of a country” or something to that effect, eh. Much ado aboot nothing.

  6. #6
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:11 pm, purplepeep said:

    letget said:

    Sorry, but I have not a clue who this gal is

    She’s an STD-ridden cast member of a 90s David Hasselhoff show.

    or if I should care.

    You shouldn’t.

  7. #7
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:16 pm, bjc said:

    *Ex-Canadian here; Mostly good, hard working people up there; Then there is Pamela Anderson and those pesky frogs.
    *I am a pescatarian by choice, and these PETA people are either idiots by choice, or it’s in their DNA.

  8. #8
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:18 pm, tre said:

    “There’s room for all of Gods creatures next to the mashed potatoes.”

    “I didn’t fight my way to the top of the food chain to eat carrots.”

    “‘Vegatarian’ is an old Indian word that means ‘bad hunter’.”

    “PETA: People for the Eating of Tasty Animals”

    I could never eat Pamela Anderson. She’s UNCLEAN!

  9. #9
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:19 pm, stillontheroad said:

    BBQ Country Ribs for me

  10. #10
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:24 pm, BOB said:

    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:03 pm, letget said:
    Sorry, but I have not a clue who this gal is or if I should care. If the recent picture is correct, she is not just eating veggies!

    She used to run a lot in slow motion on a show called “Baywatch”.

    Not bad….really. LOL

  11. #11
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:31 pm, spaceycakes said:

    I could never eat Pamela Anderson

    Must. not. make. ribald. comment.

  12. #12
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:32 pm, docflash said:

    Fish that were swimming this morning are pretty tasty.

  13. #13
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:35 pm, letget said:

    Thanks all for the information. I did not see any of the shows you mentioned. I must have a bit selective in my viewing of tv shows in the 90′s.
    L

  14. #14
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:47 pm, purplepeep said:

    spaceycakes said:
    Must. not. make. ribald. comment.

    Think “Hepatitis C” – that should help.

  15. #15
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:48 pm, chapoutier said:

    Thanks all for the information. I did not see any of the shows you mentioned. I must have a bit selective in my viewing of tv shows in the 90′s.

    That or else your wife is reading this over your shoulder.

  16. #16
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:50 pm, thutmose18 said:

    She forgot the silicone or saline part of the animal.

  17. #17
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:51 pm, vinny said:

    Er, What’s Pamela’s attitude about sausage?

  18. #18
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:53 pm, John Deaux said:

    Tre,

    If God didn’t want us to eat them, why’d he make them out of meat?

  19. #19
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:54 pm, spaceycakes said:

    vinny; you would need a groot boerewors for that conversation.

  20. #20
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:56 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    “There’s room for all of Gods creatures next to the mashed potatoes.”

    I’m saving her a place next to my mashed potatoes, and I have plenty of gravy.

  21. #21
    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:57 pm, spaceycakes said:

    That’s not a comment on the size of the perfectly acceptable everyday sausage either. It’s an observation on the vastness of the cave.

  22. #22
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:02 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    This is odd though. She’s not naked or anything.

  23. #23
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:03 pm, Hangfire said:

    1. Lion eats kudu – Natural
    2. Croc eats fish – Natural
    3. Bear eats seal – Natural
    4. Wolf eats antelope – Natural
    5. Shark eats penguin – Natural
    6. Man eats Angus – UnNatural

    Aren’t we animals too, Pam?

  24. #24
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:06 pm, chapoutier said:

    6. Man eats Angus – UnNatural

    Ew. Maybe you do, but I am straiiii…oohhhh, you said “anGUS.”

    Yeah. I like that.

  25. #25
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:08 pm, DBNinKY said:

    I’m no vegetarian, and am hardly a PETA supporter, but after all the animal abuses I’ve seen, and the rescues I’ve participated in, I find it impossible to now stomach eating red meat.

  26. #26
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:10 pm, Hangfire said:

    What part of a cow is the Angus, anyway?

  27. #27
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:10 pm, DBNinKY said:

    I’m no expert, but judging from recent pictures of Anderson, I think that’s Photoshopped.

    That or she’s discovered a time-machine back to her pre-Baywatch body!

  28. #28
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:10 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    You know when you order skinless chicken breasts and they forget to remove the nipples? Yeah, like that.

  29. #29
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:14 pm, J S Ragman said:

    On July 15th, 2010 at 3:51 pm, vinny said:

    Er, What’s Pamela’s attitude about sausage?

    Well, we have photographic evidence of that.

    The average barnyard animal has the sense not to make a video.

  30. #30
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:16 pm, txvet2 said:

    She’s also notorious for a movie called “Barb Wire” where the bad guys were called “Congressionals” and wore Nazi uniforms. In case you couldn’t guess, it was made in the late ’90s.

  31. #31
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:17 pm, 24Klady said:

    Somewhere there is a village missing it’s idiot. Her mission statement just ends up looking stupid. Surely, this is not how she’s making a living these days? Good for our neighbors to the north.

  32. #32
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:26 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    All right Doug – that does it! I don’t mind if you mock Chelsea Clinton, or Mr. and Mrs Weiner, but I think we need to draw the line somewhere! It’s Filipinos like you working for the white man that give black women a bad name and you know who I mean! Just sit your black ass down and think for a moment what your mockery means to her mother! And you’ll never hear frrom me again and PS I’m not an engineer in Palm Springs or a student of the womanly arts at UC Santa Cruz.

  33. #33
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:35 pm, Send_Me said:

    *shrugs* I just don’t see the appeal of Ms. Anderson. Frankly, she’s got nothing on my wife.

  34. #34
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:37 pm, EWTHeckman said:

    I think in Pamela’s case, the “BRAIN” label (as in just like animals) is entirely appropriate.

    Remember, this is the gal that helped make Uggs popular despite her PETA leanings.

    (letget, this is one of the few things worth knowing about her.)

  35. #35
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:43 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Pamela Anderson is a first-class slut. Sorry, but that’s the truth, so why not say it? God help her.

  36. #36
    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:44 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    Maybe I am spending waaaaaaaay too much time here. When I clicked to see the recent non photo-shopped pic of her the first word that came to mind was “porkulus”. No doubt, I need a break as much as she needs slim-fast.

  37. #37
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:00 pm, TigerLady said:

    Pasadena Phil said:
    Of course, those steaks and burgers don’t contain silicon implants.

    ouch!

  38. #38
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:01 pm, 24Klady said:

    The recent photos clearly show why you need to limit grains and enjoy a little more protein. The Almighty gave us many wonderful food choices for a reason. You can live without carbs, but not fruit/vegetables/protein.

  39. #39
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:03 pm, Hangfire said:

    She should work for the CDC down in Atlanta. They would save a lot of money storing STD specimens. Supposedly she has everything from Hepatitis Charlie to Herpes Quadraplex.

    Normally, you would have to go to Bangkok to find a girl that gives permanent souvenirs.

  40. #40
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:07 pm, Misscheryl said:

    some things never change.

  41. #41
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:10 pm, Hangfire said:

    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:43 pm, happyscrapper said:
    Pamela Anderson is a first-class slut. Sorry, but that’s the truth, so why not say it? God help her.

    Damn, I’d hate to see a second- or third-class slut. That would be spooky!

  42. #42
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:20 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    PETA!

    P eople
    E ating
    T asty
    A nimals

  43. #43
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:22 pm, Marc said:

    Pamela Anderson has sure gone downhill since she played CJ on Baywatch. I would prefer Loni Anderson to Pamela Anderson. A diet high in red meat is bad for cholesteral and I don’t mind if my doctor or nurse tells me that. It’s OK if they want to be a scold. But Pamela Anderson has ingested things alot worse than red meat. She has no right to lecture me or anyone else about our dining habits.

  44. #44
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:24 pm, spaceycakes said:

    Good Housekeeping’s Michelle Obama ‘shop job.

    What? That’s after ‘shop?!

    Sorry to say, but it’s still horrific.

  45. #45
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:27 pm, WaterBoyz said:

    #29 said:

    The average barnyard animal has the sense not to make a video.

    Well … ‘cept fer da Chik-fill-a kows. :)

  46. #46
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:29 pm, WaterBoyz said:

    … and just how long does a rabbit live eatin’ nothin’ but veggies anyway ? ? ?

  47. #47
    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:35 pm, BOB said:

    On July 15th, 2010 at 5:29 pm, WaterBoyz said:
    … and just how long does a rabbit live eatin’ nothin’ but veggies anyway ? ? ?

    No one knows, rabbits are meat that seldom dies from old age.

  48. #48
    On July 15th, 2010 at 6:15 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    I would think that Anderson has too many cut marks from too many surgeries, as well as is stretch so tight that one could bounce a quarter off her forehead, to be that attractive any longer. Also, she’s getting older.

    Accept it, Pam. you’re body is now 51% plastic. All you need is a pull string in your back and some vacuous, er, well, you have the empty speech covered.

  49. #49
    On July 15th, 2010 at 6:15 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    Oops! I meant “your”, not “you’re”.

    My bad.

  50. #50
    On July 15th, 2010 at 6:22 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:43 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Pamela Anderson is a first-class slut. Sorry, but that’s the truth, so why not say it? God help her.

    Judging from those recent pictures, she isn’t even a third class slut anymore.

  51. #51
    On July 15th, 2010 at 6:26 pm, purplepeep said:

    chapoutier said:

    6. Man eats Angus – UnNatural

    Ew. Maybe you do, but I am straiiii…oohhhh, you said “anGUS.”

    One of my top fave news bloopers:
    Black and Gus

  52. #52
    On July 15th, 2010 at 6:35 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    P.E.T.A

    People Eating Tasty Animals

    If God didn’t want us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of meat?

  53. #53
    On July 15th, 2010 at 6:37 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    One of my top fave news bloopers:
    Black and Gus

    I remember that! What a bunch of maroons. Just more proof that “anchorperson” is just so much B.S.; they’re news readers.

  54. #54
    On July 15th, 2010 at 6:44 pm, purplepeep said:

    TooMuchTime said:
    I remember that! What a bunch of maroons. Just more proof that “anchorperson” is just so much B.S.; they’re news readers.

    His co-anchor had some fun with it, though, lol.

  55. #55
    On July 15th, 2010 at 7:01 pm, cubbiegal said:

    I’m not a fan of PETA-but I’m a vegetarian because I think meat is cruel.
    I’ve discovered that I am far from the only conservative-usually they’re other women-that feels that way.
    I’m not radical about it-I cook steaks and chicken for my husband.
    Live and let live.

  56. #56
    On July 15th, 2010 at 7:11 pm, purplepeep said:

    cubbiegal said:

    I’m a vegetarian because I think meat is cruel.

    Yeah, that sometimes happens if you don’t tenderize the meat first, cubbiegal. ;)

  57. #57
    On July 15th, 2010 at 7:15 pm, cubbiegal said:

    cubbiegal said:

    I’m a vegetarian because I think meat is cruel.

    Yeah, that sometimes happens if you don’t tenderize the meat first, cubbiegal. ;)

    *Snort!*

  58. #58
    On July 15th, 2010 at 7:22 pm, right_on said:

    I think meat is cruel.

    Yeah…when God created animal protein, it must have been a wasted idea. So, if you don’t eat ‘em, then why have them around? They eat up the landscape, and foul the air with all that methane gas that flows from both ends. Plus, they’re smelly….

    If meat is so cruel, then why do Vegans eat faux burgers, soy dogs, etc. Why not make a entirely different category of edibles? Perhaps, Soylent Green? :)

    Each to their own (I still don’t understand the mental process behind being a vegetarian…don’t plants have feelings too?)

  59. #59
    On July 15th, 2010 at 7:34 pm, cubbiegal said:

    I’m actually not a ‘true’ vegetarian because last year it made me very sick.To shut-up my doctor I also eat fish on occasion.
    Like I said-live and let live.
    I’m a conservative. While I won’t eat meat I also won’t get in the face of someone who will.

  60. #60
    On July 15th, 2010 at 7:37 pm, purplepeep said:

    cubbiegal said:
    *Snort!*

    Sometimes I just can’t help it,cubbie! :)

    You’re a good sport to cook critters for your family.

  61. #61
    On July 15th, 2010 at 7:38 pm, Hangfire said:

    On July 15th, 2010 at 7:11 pm, purplepeep said:
    Yeah, that sometimes happens if you don’t tenderize the meat first, cubbiegal.

    Wow, now that IS cruel.

    Never, ever tenderize the meat first.

    Kill it first, then tenderize. Sheeee….

  62. #62
    On July 15th, 2010 at 8:24 pm, letget said:

    chap#15,
    I AM the wife!!! And I do not care if hubby looks. We have had the chat on what will happen if he thinks he ‘needs another’.
    L

  63. #63
    On July 15th, 2010 at 8:47 pm, mikeg said:

    I do like breast……

    of chicken!!! you guys have a dirty mind

  64. #64
    On July 15th, 2010 at 8:51 pm, tre said:

    On July 15th, 2010 at 7:34 pm, cubbiegal said:
    I’m actually not a ‘true’ vegetarian because last year it made me very sick.To shut-up my doctor I also eat fish on occasion.
    Like I said-live and let live.
    I’m a conservative. While I won’t eat meat I also won’t get in the face of someone who will.

    If a Conservative is a vegetarian, he eats vegatables. If a liberal is, he wants everyone else to be, too.

    If you’re ever in the Oklahoma City area, come by. I’ll throw a veggie burger on the grill with your hubby’s and my cheeseburgers. Do you prefer mayo, ketchup, or mustard?

  65. #65
    On July 15th, 2010 at 9:44 pm, chapoutier said:

    chap#15,
    I AM the wife!!! And I do not care if hubby looks. We have had the chat on what will happen if he thinks he ‘needs another’.
    L

    Ooops. Sorry.

  66. #66
    On July 15th, 2010 at 9:45 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    In any case, Pam’s poster says that all animals have the same parts, but something’s missing. What body part that most other animals have is appropriately not listed on Anderson’s PETA poster?

    You guessed it: Brain!

    Huh, I was going to say the gootch!

  67. #67
    On July 15th, 2010 at 11:43 pm, Hangfire said:

    On July 15th, 2010 at 8:51 pm, tre said: Do you prefer mayo, ketchup, or mustard?

    Mayo on cheeseburger? In OKC? What the heck has happened?

  68. #68
    On July 16th, 2010 at 12:28 am, Brett Buck said:

    Can be tasty, but be sure and cook it thoroughly, there may be parasites.

  69. #69
    On July 16th, 2010 at 12:51 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    If we weren’t supposed to eat meat then why does it taste so good?

  70. #70
    On July 16th, 2010 at 1:36 am, cubbiegal said:

    Danceswithdachshunds:
    I love your handle.
    I grew up with Socrates Haydn Von Dachs(Socksie), Moshe Dayan Ben Dachs(Moshe), Fango Shear Dachs(Fang),and Rabbie MacDachs the Red of Wallace(Rab).
    All but Rab(pronounced Rob) were black/ tans. As you can tell by the names, my parents were Zionist members of Clan Wallace who liked philosophy, classical music, and the poetry of Robert Burns. Yes-I’m confused.
    LoL

  71. #71
    On July 16th, 2010 at 4:01 am, AlohaGuy said:

    my parents were Zionist members of Clan Wallace who liked philosophy, classical music, and the poetry of Robert Burns.

    Let me guess, kosher haggis?

  72. #72
    On July 16th, 2010 at 4:13 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Zionist members of Clan Wallace who liked … the poetry of Robert Burns

    My favorite – “Ae Bonnie Lass Bat-Ami”…

  73. #73
    On July 16th, 2010 at 7:59 am, cubbiegal said:

    Alohaguy
    *snort!*
    I like ‘Ode to a Mouse’ because mice are cuuuute.
    While both my parents were/are Jewish my mother had an English/Scots Jew-by- conversion grandmother-so my parents
    became the Chicago reps for Clan Wallace USA during the 1980s and early 1990′s.
    My father had blond hair and gray eyes and looked d*mn good in his kilt dare I say. LoL

  74. #74
    On July 16th, 2010 at 9:17 am, heldmyw said:

    That poster looks more like an endorsement of cannibalism than a protest of animal use…

  75. #75
    On July 16th, 2010 at 9:46 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    cubbiegal said: … because mice are cuuuute.

    Then I advise you to not look at this photo.

  76. #76
    On July 16th, 2010 at 9:54 am, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    tre said:…I’ll throw a veggie burger on the grill with your hubby’s and my cheeseburgers. Do you prefer mayo, ketchup, or mustard?

    I’d prefer bacon on my veggie burgers thank you.

  77. #77
    On July 16th, 2010 at 9:59 am, spaceycakes said:

    Oh my gosh, cubbiegal–I fear we may be related!

    Another Scots-Jewess? I tell my husband I’m so tight with money that I squeak when I walk.

  78. #78
    On July 16th, 2010 at 10:36 am, cheapseat said:

    Phil#28 too funny.

  79. #79
    On July 16th, 2010 at 10:42 am, SpeakEasy said:

    I guess we now have revisionist biology since my generation was taught man became more advanced (evolved) mentally after adding protien (meat) to his diet. I guess the theory of evolution only works when you are saving a shad to stop industry (and kill jobs) or trying to diminish religious beliefs (replace God with The State).

  80. #80
    On July 16th, 2010 at 11:09 am, mojo said:

    As one guy said, “How smart do you have to be to sneak up on a leaf?”

  81. #81
    On July 16th, 2010 at 11:15 am, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    Is she pointing to every place that she has used for sex? Enquiring mindless want to know

  82. #82
    On July 16th, 2010 at 12:13 pm, ACHefty said:

    I find it impossible to now stomach eating red meat.

    You have to cook it first!

    Mmmm. Steak. Burgers. Cheese. And my favorite vegetable: Bacon!

  83. #83
    On July 16th, 2010 at 12:35 pm, cubbiegal said:

    Oh my gosh, cubbiegal–I fear we may be related!

    Another Scots-Jewess? I tell my husband I’m so tight with money that I squeak when I walk.

    roses are red
    Violets are blue
    There’s no bigger cheapskate
    than a Scottish Jew.

  84. #84
    On July 16th, 2010 at 12:38 pm, IndyRich said:

    In any case, Pam’s poster says that all animals have the same parts, but something’s missing. What body part that most other animals have is appropriately not listed on Anderson’s PETA poster?

    Hepatitis C???

    just sayin’….

  85. #85
    On July 16th, 2010 at 12:51 pm, Bob69 said:

    Hey….I shot a herd of spinach today.

  86. #86
    On July 16th, 2010 at 12:56 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    Meat fits in perfectly with the other four major food groups – salt, sugar, fat & alcohol

  87. #87
    On July 16th, 2010 at 1:15 pm, spaceycakes said:

    cubbiegal–

    my husband and I invented copper wire:

    we found the same penny!

  88. #88
    On July 16th, 2010 at 3:30 pm, FirstSkirt said:

    I’m no vegetarian, but I really don’t want to eat those cows who make those ads for Chick ‘Fil’let (sp?)….heh. (eat more chickin.)

  89. #89
    On July 16th, 2010 at 4:27 pm, spaceycakes said:

    FirstSkirt–for reals. Why do they use Holsteins for the ad?

    City folk‘.–Curly/City Slickers

  90. #90
    On July 16th, 2010 at 6:41 pm, purplepeep said:

    cubbiegal said:

    Oh my gosh, cubbiegal–I fear we may be related!

    Another Scots-Jewess? I tell my husband I’m so tight with money that I squeak when I walk.

    roses are red
    Violets are blue
    There’s no bigger cheapskate
    than a Scottish Jew.

    You know, after a good many years pass by you ladies could do your part for Old Jews Telling Jokes

    Right now you’re just youthful and witty! :)

  91. #91
    On July 16th, 2010 at 7:28 pm, spaceycakes said:

    purplepeep–OJTJ is bookmarked for me–I visit it regularly!

  92. #92
    On July 19th, 2010 at 12:24 pm, frostrt said:

    PETA has done this before – take some babe and write down where her different “parts” are. Getting bubble-headed bimbos to pose nude or almost-nude for them is one of their stocks-in-trade.

    Pass the Wendy’s Baconater, please. (For you, Pam, I’ll eat a cow AND a pig.)

  93. #93
    On July 19th, 2010 at 12:34 pm, frostrt said:

    And you’re right, it would have taken some serious photoshopping to make her look like that in a bikini, judging from the un-doctored pictures you posted.

    But, we must not dispel the myth that vegetarians cannot be out of shape, now can we?

  94. #94
    On July 19th, 2010 at 12:53 pm, frostrt said:

    On July 15th, 2010 at 4:03 pm, Hangfire said:
    1. Lion eats kudu – Natural
    2. Croc eats fish – Natural
    3. Bear eats seal – Natural
    4. Wolf eats antelope – Natural
    5. Shark eats penguin – Natural
    6. Man eats Angus – UnNatural

    Aren’t we animals too, Pam?

    —————————————-

    This is what I’m saying – they don’t try to talk predatory animals into “changing their lifestyles” and sparing the lives of the animals they prey on. And why? Because animals cannot be “reasoned with” the way we can – they cannot be talked into or out of anything based on moral arguments like “don’t kill the animals”. And why is that? Because they ARE different than us, whether PETA likes it or not.

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