The RNC is Steele-ing the Election — Update: RNC Denies Hiding Debt, Says Debt Paid
**Written by Doug Powers
The Republican National Committee is Steele-ing the election, and in the process they’re stealing it from Republicans.
The RNC bumbling continues as the November election draws nearer. The RNC supported Dede Scozzafava (who returned the favor by supporting a Democrat), which cost them who knows how much by angering plenty of would-be donors. Then there was the bondage club thing, word of private jets, and other spendthrift behavior.
Every time I start to become at least a little inclined to believe there’s a big difference between Republicans and Democrats in the area of fiscal reponsibility, something like this comes along:
The Republican National Committee failed to report more than $7 million in debt to the Federal Election Commission in recent months – a move that made its bottom line appear healthier than it is heading into the midterm elections and that also raises the prospect of a hefty fine.
In a memo to RNC budget committee members, RNC Treasurer Randy Pullen on Tuesday accused Chairman Michael S. Steele and his chief of staff, Michael Leavitt, of trying to conceal the information from him by ordering staff not to communicate with the treasurer – a charge RNC officials deny.
Mr. Pullen told the members that he had discovered $3.3 million in debt from April and $3.8 million from May, which he said had led him to file erroneous reports with the FEC. He amended the FEC filings Tuesday.
Campaign-finance analysts said that simply misreporting fundraising numbers to the FEC can lead to millions of dollars in fines and that criminal charges can be levied if the actions are suspected to be intentional.
Seven million dollars? Sounds like somebody made over 3,500 more trips to Voyeur West Hollywood.
My relationship with the RNC is a little like Al Pacino’s famous line in Godfather III, except in reverse: Just when I thought I was in, they push me back out.
There need to be changes at the top of the RNC chain, and fast. Hand out leather hoods, ball gags and whips as severence pay if need be, but clean house at the top and find somebody able to lead the RNC so the Republicans it supports don’t look stupid and hypocritical when they speak of “fiscal responsibility.”
In a year where the base is motivated and the RNC should be cash heavy heading into an election that will determine the future of the country, they’ve run up a debt and may have tried some bookkeeping sleight of hand to make things look not as bad as they are. Sounds like the kind of thing that has gotten America in deep trouble already, doesn’t it?
The RNC coffers should be overflowing more than the coin tray in the White House’s ice cream cone/cigarette/arugula vending machine, but they’re not. Explanations are in order.
A recent RNC internal report showed that the party’s major donors program was spending $1.09 for every $1 raised. What a great way to convince voters (and major donors for that matter) to give them the keys to DC so they can lead America out of its fiscal hole.
You know it’s bad for the RNC when even Robert Gibbs gets it right:
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs had some choice words today for Michael Steele after the RNC chairman said that being black gives him and President Obama less margin for error as public figures.
“That’s a fairly silly comment to make,” Gibbs told reporters. “I think Michael Steele’s problem isn’t the race card, it’s the credit card.”
Update: Equal time: I just an email from someone high-up in the RNC organization — here’s the crux of the letter:
We’ve got a reporter who does nothing but take shots at Steele in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t way.
We’re not hiding any debt. Anything reported as debt has been paid.
If I’m able to get more details of the RNC’s rebuttal I’ll be happy to pass them along.
(h/t Jammie Wearing Fool)
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The inability of Republicans to can Steele for various weaselly reasons is what got Karl Rove back into the picture. Now with W releasing his book just before the November elections, is it crazy to be asking whether the GOP is scheming to lose the elections (or at least greatly deflate the victories) and blame it on the Tea Party?
Expired milk is rancid and of no use to anyone… just like Steele.
The RNC can’t be effective until it gets it house in order. Enough of the sleaze and corruption from both parties. Enough of the “lesser of the evils”.
The GOP is a party that is bungling its own party business. How can we trust these guys to run the country?
Let’s start by making sure McCain loses on August 24. It will establish the grassroots Tea Party as the dominant force in local and national politics. We can then be much more adamant about who leads the BOTH parties.
“Let’s start by making sure McCain loses on August 24.”
That fixes Steele needing to resign how?
McCain is going to win the primary. Start taking your meds now Phil, or whatever you need to do, to get over it.
Steele needs to go. No doubt. Who going to take his place?
But wait, if the Republicans get their act together is that what you really want Phil?
And Phil if you think JD Heyworth is actually a good choice then you haven’t been paying attention.
The idea that we should vote for anyone who isn’t McCain is a bad way of thinking.
Wonder how many folks voted for Obama because he wasn’t Bush or McCain without bothering to figure out who Obama really was.
Just cause JD isn’t McCain does not mean JD is the better than McCain.
Put a strong women in charge. Lynn or Sarah are both mothers who know how to deal with children.
Chairman Michael S. Steele and his chief of staff, Michael Leavitt should both not only be fired but should be escorted from the building in handcuffs.
SARAH!
To paraphrase an Irish writer:
I wouldn’t give the RNC the steam off my piss.
Will someone please explain to jsm why a steaming pile would be an improvement over McCain? I must be hitting a nerve with you jsm. Your personal attacks are getting more and more shrill and incoherent. Why don’t you just come out and admit that you are a Democrat?
Hmm…I’m beginning to think that this is deliberate “bumbling” and the elitists that are in charge of the RNC probably have more in common with democrats that many of us can immagine. They mock and jeer the grass-root members of the GOP and consider them suckers and rubes, barely to be tolerated and given lip service to just to keep the dollars rolling in.
The RNC has become a near-useless embarrasement. Better to channel your dollars directly to the well-researched candidate of your choice.
Why don’t you? For that matter, why don’t you explain how California ended up with Fiorina?
txvet2: have you figured out yet that this is a conservative blog? You and your RINO friends must have this place confused for RINO Central (aka Townhall.com). Give them a try. They LOVE people like you.
Certainly money woes are an issue. Equally important is the advancing of a specific agenda of what will change should the Republicans take over the Congress (either Chamber).
Exactly what programs will be cut? Reduced? Eliminated? Will conference committee earmarks be eliminated? Yep, a small but necessary step that will demonstrate the seriousness of addressing uncontrolled spending.
Will the healthcare debacle and the prescription drug plan be eliminated? Both are expensive. What subsidies and mandates will be addressed?
Specifics will matter, not hollow promises dressed in wiggle room propped up by caveats.
To quote you,
And as usual, you avoid answering the question. (Accusing everyone else on the board but yourself of being a RINO isn’t an answer, dolt.)
The RNC will not be effective until the voters get its (the RNC’s) house in order. Vote out RINOS.
I just found another candidate to support.
I love Conservative women!!!
Can we rap about race? The reason that Mr. Steele will not be replaced or quit is race. Race is everything. It is kryptonite to Republicans. Even the strongest wilt before it. The democrats know this, Steele knows this, but unfortunately no one wants to say it. Why? Because it is “racist.” And so it goes. It’s what I call AIBS (A** Is Black Syndrome): Steele can only be replaced by another black person, otherwise the replacement will instantly be denounced as the new “Grand Kleagle” of the Republican Party, and no republican anywhere will risk that. So the fool’s job is safe, forever.
On a lighter note, Ann Coulter thinks Steele is doing a great job, and I would never argue with Ann.
When Steele took office didn’t he get rid of a lot of staff and brought in his own worshipers?
How do you talk bad about your opposition when your own place is a mess?
When it took 5 vote cycles to get Steele the top job . . . THAT should have been a sign.
GOP
Grand Old Party.
Errah cant they pay that off with their Discover card and next mont pay that off with Visa and then American Express . . . That should hold them till October when the bill comes due
Steele should’ve been given the heave-ho right after the Scozzafava blunder. The sooner this guy is gone, the sooner we can remake the party in our image.
Oh I dunno, the RNC could seek a wise latina for a replacement.
Rep. Mike Coffman of Colorado could whip the GOP into shape. But don’t draft any of regular party hacks from Colorado, they can always be counted on to recyle losing campaign leaders and shoot their own feet.
Another reason I only give to candidates and not to the party.
There need to be changes at the top of the RNC chain, and fast. Hand out leather hoods, ball gags and whips as severence pay if need be, but clean house at the top and find somebody able to lead the RNC so the Republicans it supports don’t look stupid and hypocritical when they speak of “fiscal responsibility.”
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I agree, we are in serious need of “house-cleaning”. Especially the Repubs who embarassed themselves and the party by going to one of “those clubs” on the party’s dime and time.
I have a good feeling about November and 2012 – I believe that true conservatives will win the day (and the elections). And it’s getting closer every day.
Steele is not the problem-
the ‘blue blood’ cadre of the party is the problem—
C-CS
Wrong. He’s just not the only problem.
I could not agree with you more. She would be perfect.
Unfortunately the RNC hates her about as much as the DNC.
You’re right. She’s not a member in good standing of the ruling class.
“Why don’t you?”
I’d like to hear that explanation as well. Please Phil explain to me how JD Heyworth is a better conservative choice than McCain.
Remember now, I’m voting for JD in the primary but expect to vote for McCain in the election as McCain is going to win the primary. But please, sell us on how JD is a better or more conservative choice than McCain.
“You and your RINO friends”
Sad one note song you sing Phil. Quite sad.
We Wascally WINO’s….
zy….
Do you really think coming up with a list of programs/expenses needing to be cut is hard?
That is a piece of cake.
We can look at each of the last two major pieces of legislation to begin with, even the budget approval for the war effort, and take everything out that has nothing to do with the bill. You could cut major expenses just by eliminating the non-related add-ins.
Steele’s race makes him a spotted-owl. Can’t touch him. RNC members are convinced that canning Steele will ignite the MSM chanting of “R A C I S T.”
jsm and texvet2: okay girls, get a life. If you can’t parse my sentences and understand facts and logic when I answered your questions in my first comments, why even bother with you re-asking them? Are you two stupid or what?
Why don’t you ask Michelle who she would choose between McCain and Hayworth? Are you going to attack her too? Funny how people like you are unforgiving when other “Republican” states elect people like Lindsay Graham but when it your RINO, you put your idiocy on full public display.
It’s not me you idiots, it’s you. You can address my arguments so you personalize like the good little Alinskyites that you are.
Congrats, I believe you just upped your standing in the Periodic Table Of Swearing. You went from Heavy Metals to Pissed Up!
The linked article in the American Spectator pretty much nails it and answers all these issues about cleaning house.
There is more than a house cleaning that needs to happen. The truth of the matter is not new.
Matt 12:43-44
“When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first.”
We need a restructuring or re-framing of the government in a fundamental way other wise we’ll be right back where we started.
We need a conservative revolution.
Eff the RNC, what have they done for me lately?
“Why don’t you ask Michelle who she would choose between McCain and Hayworth?”
Not sure why we’d do that. You are the one bashing Republicans and McCain as oppose to JD. You don’t have an answer do you Phil? The only reason you have for support JD is he isn’t McCain.
You think like the folks who elected Obama.
As noted before, we don’t need your kind of thinking.
Steele needs to go. McCain needs to go. The list of Republicans in positions of authority that need to go is lengthy. Start anywhere you wish on the list, just start!
his usual collection of stupidity, personal attacks, and evasions. I understand, Phil, you’d rather talk about anything than why California would be better off with Boxer and Governor Moonbeam than with Fiorina and Whitman. And you’ve already proven that you have absolutely no idea why Hayworth would be better than McCain – you just hate McCain.
Because you’re the one ranting against McCain on this thread.
Right back atcha, Phil.
I have not contributed to the RNC since before the 2008 election. Once Steele was in I started getting some of the most asinine donation letters. You’ve all gotten them I’m sure. Then, the chuztpah(sp?) of past-due notices to tell me my membership had lapsed. Ahhh, excuse me, but being a favored member of the party has never interested me. I vote conservative. I send money direct to any candidate I deem worthy of supporting. Steele has got to go, if not, turn the lights off after you’ve bankrupted the organization. The National Committee is done until further notice.
One thing worth noting is that we are not seeing similar discussions within the Democrat Party. Their elites are firmly in control. That will prove to be their undoing, if we can toss ours out first.
ziggy: How about EVERY one that is not called for in the Constitution?
Start (and it is JUST a start!) cutting the Departments of Education (a REAL success story, sarc) Energy, and Health & Human Services. A meager 10% across the board cut in all three would save in the neighborhood of a measly $100 Billion (yes, that is a “B”) in the 2011 budget.
Add another 50% cut in the Departments of Agriculture as well as Housing and Urban Development (there is another REAL success story! sarc) at 50% each and the savings start to add up — total with the earlier ones would give savings of another $80 Billion.
As Sen Everett Dirksen allegedly said,
THE Republican party needs an enema
Right out of the Democrat Party playbook…am I the only one who sees this?
Michael Steele may not be the man we need to head the RNC, but, he is up for re-election after the November congressional elections. Why in the world would anyone with an iota of common sense want to oust him before November? Do they not see the propaganda ammunition that would provide to the Democrat Party misinformation ad squads? It’s insane!
Is is not forseeable?
“The Republican Party, is not only the party of ‘no’, but by this action, the ousting of Michael Steele as chairman, shows clearly that they are not inclusive, and that they only want ‘certain types’ in their leadership. We all know that Steele was booted ONLY for racial reasons!”……
and the “unsophisticated” masses will believe them.
We need to reassess those in the RNC committee way before we need to address Steele. The problem in the RNC is it’s upper eschalon membership, NOT Michael Steele. Need I remind you how they treated Sarah Palin at a fundraiser in Texas last year? Y-e-a-h…
By the way, Phil, lifetime ACU ratings for: Lamar Smith (my US rep) – 91.97; Cornyn – 92.0; Hutchison 89.38. They could be higher, but hardly RINO territory.
For the one-hundredth time, it is so easy to run up your ACU score. You keep proposing conservative bills that have no chance of passing. They when the Gangs of McCain force a few members to back landmark liberal legislation, most still vote against it but a few take a ding on their score. The game is to rotate the dings.
It’s the same as arguing that worms should be allowed to vote because their DNA sequence is 99% identical to human DNA. It sounds good but under the microscope, it makes no sense. Start making sense.
J.C. Watts would make a great head of the RNC.
BTW, that x% of time your RINOs are voting against conservatives, it’s for amnesty, TARP, cap and trade, and so on. That’s only four out of how many hundred? So is it percentages of how you vote or how often your side wins?
It is very interesting that once the GOP became the minority party again, ACU scores skyrocketed. Maybe it’s because the Gangs of McCain can lay low again. That is exactly why returning McCain in November with the Republican sweep would defeat any benefit of that win. The Gangs of McCain ride back in to make sure conservatives are tackled at the goal line.
That’s a 30 – 45 second exercise. When that’s done then can we fire Steele for mismangagement of funds among umpteen other things.
I do not give a rat’s single point of contact about what the Democrats say. We need to do the right things, stay focused and on message.
When they scream “racist.” we need to tell them once, “your opinion is noted and it is wrong.” Then we return to bashing them on real issues.
The best defense is a relentless, overwhelming offense. It is the political equivalent of gaining and maintaining fire superiority.
I used their lifetime ratings instead of their prior year ratings just for the reason you cited – so that a few votes in the minority wouldn’t overinfluence the numbers.
I’d take JD over Mc Lame who gave the election to Obama any day.
On July 21st, 2010 at 1:53 pm, Flyoverman said:
When they scream “racist.” we need to tell them once, “your opinion is noted and it is wrong.” Then we return to bashing them on real issues.
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I like that comeback/strategy for pretty much EVERYTHING Dems say.
We heard what you said. You are wrong. Moving on now.
A+++++ Their whole strategy is to distract us and divide the country, because discussing the issues is toxic for them.
Now, Phil, that you’ve calmed down somewhat, try once again to explain why it’s worse to elect Fiorina who will get an ACU rating of maybe in the 80′s, than to keep Boxer, whose ACU lifetime rating is 2.96.
Just one simple reason: amnesty. McCain has already admitted that first he will secure the border and then he will push through “comprehensive reform” which is not necessary since we have all the laws we need already. What we don’t have is enforcement. No new bill is going to change that.
Hayworth, regardless of his McCain purported ‘faults” is a champion of securing the border and NOT following up with “Comprehensive” anything. He is for attrition through enforcement. S1070 and the exodus of over 100,000 illegals already is proof that just the threat of enforcement works.
Mr. McCain has recently visited Cochise County, twice in 3 months–but not for the last 12 years, to talk to the little people. I have been to all the meetings and can tell you first hand that if Rob Krentz had not been murdered mcCain would not have bothered to show up.
His “10 Point Plan” is really the “18 Point Plan” developed by the Border Patrol, Ranchers through the Az Cattle Growers Assoc. and our Sheriff Larry Dever. McCain being the egotist that he is, has not ONCE given credit to those who worked on this plan for 18 months prior to the murder of Krentz. Anyone who will use the murder of an American citizen to promote his political career is SCUM in my book. If you think that is the kind of ‘Character that matters” then you need to do more homework.
McCain is a Progressive which is no different than Obama. He wouldn’t allow any slams against Obama during the Pres. race like Rev Wright, but he makes false accusations about JD Hayworth being a “lobbyist”–he lobbied for ONE person–and for an infomerical that McCain himself recevied a campaign donation of $9,400 from the owner of the company… but he gave that back just before he came out with the nasty attack ad. Character??? How about business as usual for McShame.
So while JD may be a slick politician he knows he is on thin ice with his contituents and will listen to the “little people” (quote John McCain). McCain will “vote his conscious” and doesn’t give a damn about what the people of Arizona want.
There is no good reason to vote for John McCain for anything except retirement.
Very good summary and I couldn’t agree with you more – but the question is, what will you do when McCain wins the primary, as he probably will?
“McCain is a Progressive which is no different than Obama.”
Sorry while McCain may not be the conservative you wish him to be that does not make him the same as Obama.
Again flawed thinking on display there….
The question is not is McCain the conservative we wish him to be. The question is why is JD a better candidate.
Blasting McCain does not then make JD a good choice.
Again that kind of thinking is flawed and gets us Obama in the White House.
We have to be FOR something. Not just against something.
What is the “for” argument for JD?
Allow me to jump into the RINO vs. Steaming Pile discussion.
Here’s one reason why a vote for McCain, Fiorina, or any other RINO is BETTER than the steaming pile:
Majority vs. Minority.
It’s the House and Senate Majorities that have the committee chairmanships, set the agendas and schedule the votes.
Vote for the best Conservatives in the Primaries.
Support whoever wins in the General!
~imho
“There is no good reason to vote for John McCain for anything except retirement.”
Sorry but that is wrong. If McCain is the candidate in Nov not voting for him means voting for a democrat. Either by intention or by omission.
I’m not voting for a Democrat in any way.
Same point I tried to make with Phil the other day. Didn’t seem to penetrate.
Me either for another VERY VERY good reason. We have troops in the field fighting a war.
Broken record, but I have seen the Democrats fight wars before. A vote for a Democrat now is like voting for Neville Chamberlin AFTER Poland was invaded. They will cut and run at the first opportunity.
If Barack Obama is relected the worse thing you could be on January 20, 2013, is a service member.
If you want to abandon the troops, if you want to see Americans die and get maimed for nothing, let a Democrat win.
# 44-cutting the Departments of Education (a REAL success story, sarc) Energy, and Health & Human Services.
I agree totally-would go several steps further and ELIMINATE those bureaucratic infested departments- and
go back to the limited percepts given to the federal arm of the governmental structure via the original Constitution
– not the ‘living breathing one’ we bought into years ago!!
C-CS
Hmmm! May be. This could explain a lot. It worked for Howard “I have a scream” Dean. She’s out of office and usually only those in office run for a higher office.
On the other hand, Ronald Reagan was out of office in 1976 when the RINOs ran the incumbent Gerald Ford against Jimmuh. In 1980, Reagan had been out of office for a while but squashed Carter.
Maybe Sarah is planning on a Reagan-esque “comback.” I’d be happy with that.
NO Plan, NO values, No money from me.
I refuse to send the RNC another cent as long as Steele is there. Bumbling, pompous arrogant fools.
Instead, I am continuing to contribute to local politicians that reflect my conservative values.. inside and outside my state.
The Washington crowd needs a thrashing.
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I am a past contributor, and I’ve gotten several calls from the RNC in the past week or so. When I see RNC on my caller-id, I simply ignore the call. Steele is a disaster, and I refuse to assist, even indirectly, the likes of McCain and Lindsey Graham, to name only a few.
On July 21st, 2010 at 1:00 pm, Hangfire said:
Steele’s race makes him a spotted-owl. Can’t touch him. RNC members are convinced that canning Steele will ignite the MSM chanting of “R A C I S T.”
Which is why I no longer consider myself a Republican. Take a stand, state your convictions clearly, be consistent. If the GOP does not come up with a clear message, like the contract with America, it will fail repeatedly. The GOP needs to be about principles and not the party.
I made my argument in one word: Amnesty!
McCain will vote for it and eventually that will bring in over 100 million immigrants into the US (Hertitage Fdtn numbers not mine) JD Hayworth will NOT. If there is only one issue to stand against where McCain is concerned it is amnesty. Illegals are the base cause of the dumbing down of our schools, bankrupting and closing of our hospitals, filing our jails, bringing down wages,…you get the picture.
JD Hayworth since 2005-07 when he came to the border during the Minuteman Project, has consistently voted against any and all increases in job visas in favor of American citizens, was extremely vocal against illegal aliens and wrote a book detailing his objections and the costs to taxpayers in “Whatever It Takes”.
I listened to him on the radio and he “gets it”. The Constitution is being destroyed by Congress and both sides of the aisle. He listened to those who called in daily and got back “in touch” with Arizonans.
During his campaign he has visited every corner of this state many times. I have participated in s few telephone town halls and he has never pulled any punches with his answers, even to the extent of admiting where he blew it and how easy it is to get corrupted in DC.
Deakin was my first choice but I have come to believe that he is a long shot and the polls have not improved in months. (Still waiting for results from the debates). At this point, Deakin will be the spoiler in the primary like Perot was. It is time to get rid of the old guard out of Congress because they are totally disconnected with the public (my previous post details my objections to McCain).
If We, the People, do not make a radical statement and get rid of the those who have spent too damn long in DC we have no one to blame but ourselves for the downward spiral into socialism and generational theft.
If you like business as usual and his continually voting against the Constitution and Amercian Citizens then vote for McCain and not for returning to Conservative roots.
Hayworth also signed the Contract with America—McCain did not.
*The GOP has more problems than just dealing with Michael Steele Wool; In case you didn’t know, Sarah Palin has endorsed Grahamnesty for 2012, and her PAC has donated money to his campaign; With that move alone, her cred is in the septic tank, along with Romney, Newt, Karl, W, Huckabee, and all the other RINO elites; We need to continue to get behind Tea Party candidates, like those being supported by Jim DeMint, and run away from these career politicians.
And do I need to add that she also endorsed inexperienced ditz Carly Fiorina here in CA? We Tea Partiers were rallying around experienced solid conservative Republican Chuck DeVore who had the endorsement and financial backing of Jim Demint’s Senate Republican Conservative Committee?
All three Republicans were running neck-and-neck when Palin endorsed Fiorina arguing that DeVore couldn’t win (?!?!?!?!?!?!) and that Republicans couldn’t risk having uber-liberal Tom Campbell win. Now we have a Republican version of Barbara Boxer running against the Democrat Barbara Boxer.
Palin is a fraud. She is the transition RINO candidate for the GOP establishment which is getting up in years and are determined to hold on to their control of the party.
There is no point arguing with jsm. You might as well be trying to explain the theory of relativity to your dog. He is metaphysically incapable of grasping the possibility that his beloved GOP is really the Democratic Party in disguise. His entire belief system is held together by a flimsy cotter pin belief that anyone with an “R” after his name gets his vote.
“Republicans. We’re the other Democrats.”
Yeah guys … just go vote Republican …
Because the Democrats are worse …
Or are they?
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
No, but in this case he’s better hands down.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
So beloved is your R …
You don’t get it, do you?
By voting for McCain you ARE voting for a Democrat. That’s our whole point!
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Before we toss Mr. Steele under the bus; let’s see if this guy is clean.
By Choice (in post #70) made a damn good argument for Hayworth.
McCain = Arlen Specter. A slimebag that will do and say anything to get reelected. If the sheep in Arizona can’t see through his sudden shift to the right they’re not paying attention and deserve the
amnestyleadership they get.Why???
“Why???”
I’ve answered that question many times.
“You don’t get it, do you?”
What is it I don’t “get”?
That I can’t hold my breath until I turn blue if I don’t get my way?
The mind set that if I don’t have a candidate that is the pure conservative I want means I can stay home and not vote AND have a good outcome is goofed.
Pat yourself on the back all you want about be high and might and all principled like and all the while letting Democrats maintain a majority.
This childish and selfish mindset has demonstrated putting MY feeling good about myself is damaging to the rest of us.
Post #70 is bashing McCain. It is not laying out why JD is a good candidate.
“beloved GOP is really the Democratic Party in disguise.”
Jim Demint, Jeff Sessions, Bobby Jindal, John Kyl, etc…….
are Democrats in disguise?
And Phil, that local Republican woman that you are so excited about is a Democrat?
Dick Chenney will be glad to know as his heart continues to falter that before he finally dies that the truth will come out and we’ll all know he is actually a Democrat.
Looked at your site rightwing…
And what is it I’m looking at that list the reasons we should be “for” JD?
And you are certainly bias. You and your site are what they are. Yes?
“There is no point arguing with jsm.”
So its MY fault Phil that you won’t answer a simple question?
You’ve answered it at least once… Can’t say it makes much sense though.
McCain deserves every bit of it and then some.
McCain Feingold
McCain Lieberman
McCain Kennedy
Remember?
Bull.
By Choice did a very good job of defining the differences between the two on immigration. That alone would be enough for me to vote for JD.
“By Choice did a very good job of
defining the differences between the two on immigration. That alone would be enough for me to vote for JD.”
Problem is of course JD has no more a pattern or history of sticking to his election campaign rhetoric than McCain. Do I trust McCain’s current enlightenment? Nope. There is also no reason to trust JD’s.
So again while you can, and it is certainly easy to do, bash McCain. Doing so does not prove JD is a better candidate.
Rhetoric is one thing and a congressional voting record another. When it comes to border security and illegal immigration JD’s record is better than McCain’s.
Fair enough, but if you don’t trust either why JD over McCain in the primary?