Invasion: Gangs, gun battles at Tex-Mex border; Updated: No US ranch seizures, 51 bodies discovered in Monterrey

By Michelle Malkin  •  July 24, 2010 07:11 PM

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There’s a new outbreak of disorder at the southern border this weekend.

The AP reports on gun battles plaguing the region across from Laredo, Texas:

Late-night gunbattles with gangs who forced citizens from their cars and used the vehicles to block streets paralyzed a border city, sound of gunfire alarmed Texans on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande.

The Nuevo Laredo city government posted messages on Facebook warning citizens to stay indoors as the battles erupted at several intersections in the city across from Laredo, Texas.

Frightened people on the U.S. side of the border called emergency dispatchers after hearing the gunfire, Laredo police spokesman Joe Baeza said Thursday. But he said there was no spillover violence.

“We were getting reports from people who live on the river’s edge that they could hear gunfire and explosions from the Mexico side,” Baeza said.

“We didn’t have any incidents on the American side. It’s hard for people to understand who don’t live here,” he added. “They’re not Vikings, they’re not going to invade us, it doesn’t work that way.”

Nuevo Laredo city officials said they could not immediately confirm witness reports that several gunmen were killed.

Despite those denials, rumors are swirling of a Zetas-led invasion into Texas ranches. Digger’s Realm, a veteran immigration blogger, has the story:

The bloodbath continues along our southern border and now word is coming in that Los Zetas, the highly trained killers formerly with the Gulf Cartel, have crossed into the United States and taken over at least two ranches in the Laredo, Texas area. I am receiving word that the owners of the ranches have evacuated without being harmed. The source is law enforcement in the area.

(Update 2 story is now 100% confirmed by second source within the Laredo Police Department)

Founder of the San Diego Minutemen Jeff Schwilk tipped me off to this story and passes along the following information on the location. The ranches are said to be “near Mines Rd. and Minerales Annex Rd about 10 miles NW of I-35″.

Update 1 (Statement from Mr. Schwilk)

I can personally vouch that this info came in late last night from a reliable police source inside the Laredo PD. There is currently a standoff between the unknown size Zeta forces and U.S. Border Patrol and local law enforcement on two ranches on our side of the Rio Grande. The source tells us he considers this an “act of war” and that the military is needed on the border now!

More from Kimberly Dvorak at the San Diego Examiner.

***

Update: Elizabeth Kilbride has contradictory info from the Laredo PD regarding the rumored ranch seizures:

Individuals who have flooded the switchboards of the Laredo Police Department and the Webb Sheriff’s Department have been asking one question: is there a problem down along the border? They have received the same response just as I received when I asked the same question, “Yes, there is a problem down here and it’s serious,” said one law enforcement source. When asked if there is any truth to the rumors of a Texas Rancher having their property taken over by the Cartel on this side of the border their response was clear, “Hell no and I’d know, I’m a 9-11 operator.”

As you can see it’s all about how you ask the question in order to receive the correct answer when inquiring into such a seriously volatile situations. When you call any police department along the border and ask if there is a problem down their way, of course they will say there is for sure. They deal with border issues every day and yes, there is a serious problem down their way. Therefore, please be sure to ask the right questions before posting out to the masses about this issue. I for one am guilty today of doing the same as all of you, which is why I made the phone calls and asked the right questions to quell this situation once and for all.

Confederate Yankee also called Laredo PD: No ranch seizures.

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Meanwhile, in Monterrey today:

Investigators said Saturday they have found 51 corpses in two days of digging in a field near a trash dump outside the northern city of Monterrey, as excavations continued at one of the largest clandestine body dumping grounds in Mexico’s bloody drug war.

The attorney general of Nuevo Leon state, where Monterrey is located, said the victims included 48 men and 3 women. There so many bodies that authorities were using refrigerated trucks to hold them, Alejandro Garza y Garza told local television.

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  1. #1
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:19 pm, a crapweasel said:

    To me this seem like an act of desperation because the Zetas even though they are very militarized, they are dwindling in numbers since they are at war with the Gulf Cartel which they use to be in league with.

    Let’s see how the Obama administration and his media try to ignore this.

  2. #2
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:21 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    Pay no attention to the violence at the border. If violence at the border makes you scared, then you are a racist.

    If they fought the illegal aliens with the same gusto as they fight the Arizona law, we wouldn’t have an illegal immigration problem.

  3. #3
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:22 pm, letget said:

    I would imagine holder and this bho will be right on this. This is getting way past the point of fun. I live in TX and the other mexican border states are dealing with this. Too bad there isn’t some one or some gobs of someones that can deal with this! It seems our wonderful gov. can not. When is enough, enough? My S TX home will not submit!
    L

  4. #4
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:43 pm, 24Klady said:

    If ‘Bambi’s, Holder’s and Napolitano’s reactions are as quick as the one on the Gulf oil leak we can expect a response around Halloween or so. Depends greatly on whether a vacation or badly needed unread bill needs a signature or get in the way of planned events (like attending ‘Bambi’s b-day celebration and cake cutting at $30K a pop).

    With two kidnapped soldiers (possibly one dead) south of Kabul, another 4 killed (rules of engagement?), bring our troops home and let the sand fleas fend for themselves. We are at war with Mexico.

    Oh, and we’ll need a whole bunch of tanks and mines brought home too.

  5. #5
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:43 pm, txvet2 said:

    They’re just invading the ranches that Americans won’t invade.

    Crapweasel may have a point. The Zetas may be getting desperate and trying to set up a sanctuary on this side of the border. Isn’t Los Angeles enough???

  6. #6
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:46 pm, Speakup said:

    Just two armed Apache helicopters and four armed OH scout choppers with ROE of fire when necessary and Arizonans could sleep at night.

    Drop the civil rights attorney’s from the DOJ on the border with Mexican uni’s, put’em in a round corral and tell to p*ss in the corner, they’ll know what to do when the scouts show up.

  7. #7
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:50 pm, BuckeyeSam said:

    Certainly, one thing driving the violence is the demand in our country for drugs and for victims of human trafficking.

    Drug use is not a victimless crime. The blood of those who die during the course of distribution is on the hands of American users. It should be a national ideal to rat out any drug user and any dealer. Drug use has no social utility; indeed, it’s indefensible.

    With regard to human trafficking, our country should make it a capital crime to traffic and to be a john. This is a crime against not only another human being’s body but the woman or child’s soul. I have no sympathy for anyone with a role in it. Oh, and to give it some teeth, anyone convicted would be given one appeal to an appeals court dedicated to this kind of case. The appeal would be required to be heard within six months after conviction, with the sentence imposed within a month after final judgment.

  8. #8
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:52 pm, 24Klady said:

    Speakup, but what about the ranches in Texas? I’d like to know what Perry the Gifted is doing about this? He’s got a multitude of armed law enforcement plus the Texas Rangers. I hope they’re not just leaving this to local law to deal with it?

  9. #9
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:54 pm, 24Klady said:

    txvet2
    The Zetas will make a claim for sanctuary and get it from Holder. “Special circumstances” and all that nonsense.

  10. #10
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:55 pm, TigerLady said:

    We are definitely at war with Mexico. But as long as Obowmao continues to spend his time golfing and vacationing, while the country is going to hell, nothing will be accomplished. The hand writing is on the wall. Close the d@$%^ border.

    Maybe Duh Won should schedule a golf game on the border and see how well he fares.

  11. #11
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:57 pm, graysonret said:

    “We didn’t have any incidents on the American side.

    But, I fear, we will soon. The violence is bound to spread across the border, and then citizens will have to protect themselves. The Feds are too busy working the Hispanic lobby for money and votes.

  12. #12
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:58 pm, 24Klady said:

    TigerLady
    There used to be a golf course in south TX where you could play holes on both sides of the border. It was quite a resort at one time. Haven’t thought of it in years.

  13. #13
    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:58 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Is this how we are going to return Texas to Mexico? One ranch at a time? Which one of those six flags should be flying right now?

    Now that we have our border fence here in CA, we don’t have to worry about this kinda thing. Easier to go to the tough-talking, do-nothing, open-borders states to the east of us.

  14. #14
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:01 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:54 pm, 24Klady said:

    Yeah, Obama and Holder wouldn’t have any problem with giving sanctuary to a bunch of terrorists. Now if they were a bunch of religious nuts on the other hand, it would be time for the Davidian Fire Dance.

  15. #15
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:02 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Sister Toldjah is reporting that it is not true. She has a source that says that it is an internet hoax.

  16. #16
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:04 pm, TXRose said:

    As lame as Perry is…consider what would happen with White (from Houston, a sanctuary city) would be in this instance. I think BO and all of his cronies including flotus should have to spend a night down there and then they could tell us to move along, nothing to see or hear here. I say land mines along our side of the river, to start with.

  17. #17
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:05 pm, Rorschach said:

    Confederate Yankee claims to have done the research and says the rumor is not true. But we HAVE been invaded, just not the way the rumor claims.

  18. #18
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:06 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:58 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Is this how we are going to return Texas to Mexico?

    What do you mean we, white eye? You don’t want advice from Texans about California politics. We don’t need advice about immigration from a third world state.

  19. #19
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:07 pm, 24Klady said:

    Phil, was Kimberly Dvorak of the San Diego Examiner quoting an internet hoax?
    Well, she’s in good company with another blogger we all know and love.

  20. #20
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:10 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:05 pm, Rorschach said:

    I have a feeling that there is some sanctuary city politics spinning this as a “non-event”. I’m inclined to side with the cop who said that this is an act of war. It seems to me that when a foreign force crosses our borders and seizes American property, that is an act of war.

    Where is Mexico’s military in all of this? Are they just eye witnesses like UN forces or Toronto’s anti-riot police?

  21. #21
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:12 pm, purplepeep said:

    Michelle – the link to the news story needs a bit of fixing.

  22. #22
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:16 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:06 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:58 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Is this how we are going to return Texas to Mexico?

    What do you mean we, white eye? You don’t want advice from Texans about California politics. We don’t need advice about immigration from a third world state.

    Then drop the knee-jerk anti-CA bonehead comments you backwoods yahoo. It’s a “people who live in glass houses…” thing. Capiche?

    I spend enough time in Texas each year (I have a sizable client base out there) to know that Texas is worse off than CA when it comes to illegal immigration. It’s just that CA is a much nicer place to live and we are not in denial like you Texans.

  23. #23
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:18 pm, purplepeep said:

    Rorschach said:

    Confederate Yankee claims to have done the research and says the rumor is not true.

    As Michelle notes the source is the Associated Press. Of course, the AP might not have embedded drug dealers as they do embedded terrorists, so we’ll have to see what shakes out on this.

  24. #24
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:27 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Whao…

    I think the wheels are falling offa Philly’s little red wagon…

  25. #25
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:28 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:16 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    It’s just that CA iswas a much nicer place to live

    Fixed it for you. We don’t have a state income tax, Barbara Boxer, or der Terminator. I’ll take Texas.

  26. #26
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:32 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Hey Texvet! Take a look at what is happening today in CA! Not only are we not being violently invaded, we are arresting crooked Mexican officials! There are stories of Feds raiding employers for hiring illegals all the time out here? You?

    There are going to be a lot of CA mayors and other politicians facing corruption charges in the future. Here in CA, we don’t ask them to run for president.

  27. #27
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:32 pm, zorro said:

    Pray for our families along the border.

  28. #28
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:34 pm, purplepeep said:

    From AP story at the Miami Herald, kind of sounds as if there may have been more than one instance or that something is ongoing:

    “On Wednesday, the border city of Nuevo Laredo was practically paralyzed by late-night gunbattles in which gangs forced citizens from their cars and used the vehicles to block streets. The sound of gunfire alarmed Texans on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande.

    The Nuevo Laredo city government posted messages on its Facebook page warning citizens to stay indoors as shooting erupted at several intersections in the city across from Laredo, Texas.

    Frightened people on the U.S. side of the border called emergency dispatchers after hearing the gunfire, Laredo police spokesman Joe Baeza said Thursday. But he said there was no spillover violence.

    “We were getting reports from people who live on the river’s edge that they could hear gunfire and explosions from the Mexico side,” Baeza said.

    “We didn’t have any incidents on the American side. It’s hard for people to understand who don’t live here,” he added. “They’re not Vikings, they’re not going to invade us; it doesn’t work that way.”

    Nuevo Laredo city officials said they could not immediately confirm witness reports that several gunmen were killed.”

    8 suspects killed in clash with Mexican soldiers

  29. #29
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:35 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:27 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Phil’s a trip. He spends paragraphs on the board putting down pretty much everyplace and everybody else, then gets all sensitive when you say anything even mildly critical about California. He still hasn’t answered my question about what he’s going to do about Fiorina and Whitman – and he probably never will. Speaking of RINOs….

  30. #30
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:40 pm, Ragspierre said:

    There was a Pasadena Phil over on Dan Reihl’s blog saying that Rush was all squishy on Sherrod.

    That. IS. Nutz.

  31. #31
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:40 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    txvet: let me set the record straight. I didn’t start this, you and your yahoo friends decided that Californians like me should just accept getting kicked around.

    It so happens that I like Texas. Just not the Texas that exists in your mind. There is a well-deserved saying that we are all familiar with that says “Texas has the biggest everything including the biggest a-holes”. That is the Texas you reflect. It’s not the Texas I know.

    So if you want to carry on with your lies and ignorant provincialis , go ahead. You are merely promoting the stereotype of the ugly Texan that Americans hate. Now grow up and behave yourself like a mature adult.

  32. #32
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:41 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:32 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    There are stories of Feds raiding employers for hiring illegals all the time out here?

    There are stories about Feds raiding business in Utah, Texas, and about everyplace else. Are you taking credit for that too? If that fence were so effective, there wouldn’t be any illegals to hire, now would there, you idiot?
    LA is the butthole of the Western world. If you like it, fine. I’ll still take Texas.

  33. #33
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:41 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “They’re not Vikings, they’re not going to invade us, it doesn’t work that way.”

    No they’re Mexicans and they are invading, you poinyoin.

  34. #34
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:42 pm, Speakup said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:52 pm, 24Klady said:

    Shock and awe, our south of border friends are convinced of their entitlement.

  35. #35
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:43 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Now grow up and behave yourself like a mature adult.

    P. Phil

    Makes you wanna say…

    Hmmm…

  36. #36
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:45 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Rags, instead of spreading your BS, why don’t you go back to Reihl’s blog. If you actually hung around and engaged in conversation instead of staging hit-and-run link spamming, you might learn something.

    You know, I think I’ll go to other blogs and start posting BS about you. I’ll let you figure out where. Fair enough? Get my point? You can’t lie your way to virtue.

  37. #37
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:45 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:40 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    The fact that you occasionally visit Dallas doesn’t mean you know anything about Texas. And let’s set the record straight. You’ve been ranting and raving on this board about other states and their politicians for months, casting insults in all directions at anyone who dares to even mildly disagree with you, while apparently doing little to nothing about your own. Nobody else started anything.

  38. #38
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:47 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:41 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    “They’re not Vikings, they’re not going to invade us, it doesn’t work that way.”

    No they’re Mexicans and they are invading, you poinyoin.

    Guess they haven’t heard of the armed border crossings by Mexican military in Arizona.

  39. #39
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:50 pm, txvet2 said:

    Hell, Phil, let me really screw up your day. I’m a since forever Dodger fan.

  40. #40
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:50 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    America sure is a lonely place for you Texas provincials isn’t it? You hate Yankees, Californians, people from Chicago, Detroit, Seattle, and just about any place that isn’t Texas. Obnoxious.

  41. #41
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:52 pm, Ragspierre said:
  42. #42
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:53 pm, purplepeep said:

    Rogue Cheddar said:

    “They’re not Vikings, they’re not going to invade us, it doesn’t work that way.”

    No they’re Mexicans and they are invading, you poinyoin.

    Yup, the guy does sound mighty clueless, doesn’t he? “Awww, no….shucks they wouldn’t do home invasions….”

  43. #43
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:54 pm, granite said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:45 pm, txvet2 said:

    Wow, txvet2.
    Your interlocutor sure was quick and generous with the insults tonight…sort of like another blogger who posts frequently here at MM.com.

    Any odds that he might be a mole, a plant from the socialists’(dark) side?

  44. #44
    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:55 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Philly is no plant.

    He might have a screw loose…

    but he’s a mammal…

  45. #45
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:03 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Raggie: It’s about engaging in DISCUSSION. You talk, you listen, then (something completely foreign to “know-it-all”, oil industry expert, taxpayer-supported bankruptcy lawyers like you), you learn something. You should have stuck around instead of just posting your graffiti. Here is the money quote you left out:

    I hereby retract and apologize for any comments I may have made earlier suggesting that Rushbo missed the boat on this story. (Alert the media). I could have sworn I heard him criticize Breitbart about jumping the gun. I am glad to be wrong. Now it’s “The Big Four”: Breitbart, Dan, Powerline, and Rushbo.

    That’s plenty good enough for me.

    Posted by: Pasadena Phil | Saturday, July 24, 2010 at 04:43 PM

    Unlike you, I engage in discussions to learn things, not to tell everyone else that they are idiots who don’t know anything.

  46. #46
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:10 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Good for you, Philly.

    But, when you’re an ignorant boob…and proud of it…”learning something” is easier.

    You were dead wrong.

    Now you want a flower for being called on it?

    And, again, who’s the LIAR here, Philly?

    (This is where you “learn something” again, and apologize to me…see?)

  47. #47
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:14 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Now it’s “The Big Four”: Breitbart, Dan, Powerline, and Rushbo.

    Maybe plus the “little one”…since I’ve been on this since day one…

    Now it’s “The Big Four”: Breitbart, Dan, Powerline, and Rushbo.

    Now, see, that there is link-spamming…I don’t care who you are…

  48. #48
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:14 pm, Ragspierre said:
  49. #49
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:16 pm, 24Klady said:

    Phil
    I left CA for greener pastures – Texas. I had grown up in the Bay Area and due to a job change moved to SoCal. Lived in Palos Verdes, then Whittier. Loved both, until I found graffiti on my back fence at my condo in Whittier. Then, I noticed down an alley there were 20-30 illegals piling out of a garage every morning into vans. Sold the condo, relocated back to the City by the Bay. Then graffiti appeared there. I was way overdone and sold that place too. The poor choices all over CA in entitlements, social services, taxes, and a give up attitude is not the place I have 3 generations buried. CA is no longer inhabitable. Property taxes are a killer in TX – but, I’ll more than make up for it in lower home prices to start with. And, I feel safe.

    There is life outside CA.. Please don’t cop the attitude of so many from the Golden State of some mythical superiority.

  50. #50
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:17 pm, happy2behere said:

    Phil Rocks! I dont agree with him much of the time but he is one of the better bloggers here and his posts are worth reading. So be nicer, please?

  51. #51
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:18 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Raggie, most of the conservative media were wrong on this including most people here. On the surface, it wasn’t immediately clear what Rush’s point was and I wasn’t the only one who came to the conclusion I voiced. Glenn Beck is STILL wrong. I got the only three who got it right first and then recognized that Rush got it right too.

    It is easy for you and your Texas clicque of yahoos to pile on to a Californian but that is why RINOs prevail. You Texans just don’t understand obnoxiously provincial you are.

    Since I started commenting here, you yahoos have been attacking me for no other reason than I live in CA. In fact, you and I agree with just about everything but you have been attacking me personally from the very beginning. I can only conclude that you are an inflated blowhard who is determined to be the resident expert on everything. Whatever it is, it involves ego.

    Why don’t you let us Californians post without the provincial BS?

  52. #52
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:19 pm, TXRose said:

    …and you know what Phil? We even proud of our a$$holes here in TX!

  53. #53
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:21 pm, purplepeep said:

    Phil and Rags – ya wanna take it elsewhere, please?

  54. #54
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:22 pm, TXRose said:

    Ooops! Phil is going to start ragging on my typing!
    Should have said We’re even proud of our A$$holes here in TX!!

  55. #55
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:23 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Philly,

    I was born in the Queen Of Angles Hospital, which is in Hollywood.

    My parents both worked in the movies.

    I lived on Beverly Glen until I was eleven.

    My mom was a native Californian when that was rare.

    My grandpa worked the Long Beach oil fields until he retired, leaving one of his fingers on the ground from a pump-jack accident.

    I know what I know, and I’m always ready to put it to the test. I think Lonewolf…also an old oil field guy…tried to tell you I was the real deal.

    You just can’t stand being told you don’t know what you’re talking about, while insisting on talking about it.

  56. #56
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:25 pm, Ragspierre said:

    ‘K, Peeps…

    I’m done.

  57. #57
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:28 pm, bjc said:

    *Fellas, please stop with the lobbing of insults across state lines; It is so counter productive, and so off topic; And besides, every state has it’s share of rectal orafices, but the subject is that 3rd world rectal orafice to our south, Mexico.

  58. #58
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:30 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:16 pm, 24Klady said:

    You are completely missing my point. I am NOT from CA. I grew up in New England and have traveled the world. I have seen most of the US and still visit my clients regularly in various states. I don’t hold out CA to be a utopian state. Far from it.

    Palos Verdes is still a beautiful place to live so you must have had other reasons to leave. Whittier is another story.

    I almost moved to Texas at one time and have plenty of friends there but I can’t see myself living there. CA is ahead of the curve on illegal immigration. Texas and Arizona are only now waking up to how the global interests have usurped your government. We’ve known it here for a long time and have been effectively fighting back. You will never see a Republican California governor senator running for president fighting for amnesty like there are from Arizona and Texas.

    It’s like I said, I have nothing against Texas but I really, really resent provincialism. I thought Boston was provincial but Texas gives it a good run for the money.

  59. #59
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:30 pm, 24Klady said:

    TXRose
    Women from TX can clean your clock with fewer words than any other on the planet. Love ya sister!

  60. #60
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:31 pm, purplepeep said:

    Ragspierre said:

    ‘K, Peeps…

    I’m done.

    Appreciate it, thanks. We all slip into a good flame war sometime or another, but it’s a lot of effort that serves no real purpose.

    Besides, we have to blow it off somewhere down the line when we find ourselves ditto-ing someone with who we had earlier engaged.

  61. #61
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:32 pm, 24Klady said:

    Phil
    Got a steak on the ‘cue but I’ll be back….no wait, somebody in CA already said that. ;)

  62. #62
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:40 pm, Ragspierre said:

    CA is ahead of the curve on illegal immigration. Texas and Arizona are only now waking up to how the global interests have usurped your government.

    (choke…)

    (wheeze…)

    (cough…)

    (sigh…)

  63. #63
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:41 pm, TXRose said:

    Back At ya, 24Klady!

  64. #64
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:49 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:28 pm, bjc said:

    Amen.

  65. #65
    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:53 pm, TXRose said:

    Watched a report on our local CBS Station somewhere around a month ago about a bus that runs fairly regularly from OK and Dallas carrying “captured” illegals back to Mexico. Do think they were hoping that it would cause a firestorm but so far nothing much has been said except, “YES!”

  66. #66
    On July 24th, 2010 at 10:03 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 9:28 pm, bjc said:

    Apparently you don’t read this board much. Most of the insults are lobbed out of California, not at it. Phil thinks it’s a personal insult anytime anybody challenges one of his inane rants.

  67. #67
    On July 24th, 2010 at 10:05 pm, KVal57 said:

    Who among the 535 Senators and Congress folks has the balls to draft articles of impeachment against the interloper in the White House? They can start with
    failure to defend the country against invasion.

    I’m sure with a little imagination (of which they all appear to have an unlimited supply), more than a few charges can be thought up.

  68. #68
    On July 24th, 2010 at 10:12 pm, right_on said:

    Um, uh-h, the borders are as secure as they’ve ever been.”

    - Janet Napolitano July 2010
    Secretary of Homeland Security in the administration of President Barack Obama

  69. #69
    On July 24th, 2010 at 10:28 pm, John Deaux said:

    I think it’s pretty clear that somebody needs to apologize to Mexico for our arrogance.

  70. #70
    On July 24th, 2010 at 10:36 pm, TXRose said:

    Don’t worry John Deaux…BO will be more than happy to apologize. He hasn’t bowed to or apologized to anyone in over a week.

  71. #71
    On July 24th, 2010 at 10:43 pm, swede said:

    Pasadena Phil said:

    I guess it escapes my challenged RINO intellect how CA, which has the 7th largest economy on the planet and the highest corporate tax rate (second only to NYC) is running 20 BILLION in the red, and looking for fed bailout money.

    And the last time I looked, Texas has roughly 8 times more border with Mexico – and most of it rural. Is CA really doing such a spiffy job with the border, or are the drug runners just moving to more abundant and easier terrain? The gunfights today may answer that question.

    BTW – You accusing someone of talking down to others here is more that a bit hypocritical. Just sayin.

    John Deaux said:
    I think it’s pretty clear that somebody needs to apologize to Mexico for our arrogance.

    I thought Barry and Nanny already did. Barry just forgot to bow this time.

  72. #72
    On July 24th, 2010 at 10:50 pm, TXRose said:

    When I was a kid in Star County TX the Mexicans came and went across the border like I cross the street to visit a neighbor. I know that hasn’t changed because I have heard from friends that still live in the Valley that it is still the practice. This means that “bad guys” can do the same thing. I would bet that there is more to this report than is being admitted to but it will be buried by BO and the MSM. Can’t let on that things aren’t wonderful in Obamatopia.

  73. #73
    On July 24th, 2010 at 10:51 pm, Ragspierre said:

    swede:

    Sent a couple of emails to you.

    Did you get them?

  74. #74
    On July 24th, 2010 at 11:03 pm, Lindsay said:

    Well, I hope someone tells Dear Leader about the war before his next vacation, golf game, or soiree. Joe “Plugs” Biden should be given a clue before he stops his heavy lifting for the year.

    News black out???Why? If Michelle is reporting this I believe it is true.

    May God help our nation.

  75. #75
    On July 24th, 2010 at 11:15 pm, bjc said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 10:03 pm, txvet2 said:

    *Every day, most posts, avid reader.
    *Phil puts the P in passion, although sometimes misdirected.
    *Gotta go read the new FairTax book; It’s a page turner!

  76. #76
    On July 24th, 2010 at 11:50 pm, BurnedOutHippie said:

    I was in Juarez today. Other than a few sprinkles and high humidity, it was very pleasant. Didn’t see any shootings. Had a few Dos Equus at the race and sports book.

  77. #77
    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:01 am, prendad said:

    Yeah boy, everything is just as spiffy as it can be on the ole border, eh Obama? We have a frigging war going on and don’t believe for a minute that some imaginary line is going to keep us safe. Bullets do not seem to care about borders. Have fun at your birthday partay Mr. Prez and just keep on telling yourself:
    “The border is A-OK”
    “The border is A-OK”
    “The border is A-OK”
    “And, don’t you think I look just
    maaaaavvalous? And, oh Rahmmy, tell the General to leave the air conditioning on in Air Force One and have my after-dinner peeled grapes ready before I retire for the long grueling flight back to D.C. Oh being the president is so, so exausting”

  78. #78
    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:20 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Michelle I think you are mistaken. What looks like bloody gang violence, shootings and piles of dead bodies amounts to nothing more than poll watching. Otherwise Holder would be all over this.

  79. #79
    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:22 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Is CA really doing such a spiffy job with the border,

    San Diego put up an actual real fence. Thanks to Duncan Hunter. You would all be proud were he your Congressman.

  80. #80
    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:24 am, txvet2 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 10:50 pm, TXRose said:

    When I was a kid in Star County TX the Mexicans came and went across the border like I cross the street to visit a neighbor

    There was a time when people didn’t mind, because they came in to work and then went home. By the same token, we could cross the border into Mexico jut as freely. Now they come in, get on public assistance and then demand we give them even more – while they also demand that we be re-annexed to Mexico – while Americans going to Mexico are in fear for their lives. It isn’t any coincidence that the amount that Texas spends on or because of illegals is about the amount we’re in the hole this year.

  81. #81
    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:24 am, swede said:

    Ragspierre said:
    Sent a couple of emails to you.

    Did you get them?

    Yup. Just been super busy and rude and didn’t respond yet. Sent a reply tonight. Thanks for the invite. Sounds great!

  82. #82
    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:27 am, txvet2 said:

    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:22 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Duncan Hunter’s great. Wish he was running for the Senate, but unfortunately he’s not. On the other hand, Lamar Smith is hardly a RINO.

  83. #83
    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:43 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Just FWW…
    From Wikipedia:
    “Like most major cities, San Diego had a declining crime rate from 1990 to 2000. Crime slightly increased in the early 2000s. In 2004, San Diego had the sixth lowest crime rate of any U.S. city with over half a million residents. From 2002 to 2006, the crime rate overall dropped 0.8%, though not evenly by category. While violent crime decreased 12.4% during this period, property crime increased 1.1%. Total property crimes were lower than the national average in 2004.”

    Lots of reasons for this, but being on the border doesn’t have to mean crime-ridden.

  84. #84
    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:45 am, Ragspierre said:

    At the risk of damaging Chaps’ visual cortex…

    You will love this.

    The Grinding Hypocrisy Of The Daily Beast

    It’s about a piece in the Beast titled Arizona’s White Supremacist Problem…guess the story-line!!!!

  85. #85
    On July 25th, 2010 at 1:10 am, txvet2 said:
  86. #86
    On July 25th, 2010 at 1:16 am, txvet2 said:

    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:45 am, Ragspierre said:

    Your link to the Beast doesn’t seem to be working.

  87. #87
    On July 25th, 2010 at 1:28 am, Ragspierre said:

    You’ll find the Beast link in the story.

  88. #88
    On July 25th, 2010 at 1:29 am, DesertLover said:

    The world needs a couple of major enemas … please apply frequently in Mexico and Wash DC …

    November 2, 2010 … a day of reckoning for America

  89. #89
    On July 25th, 2010 at 2:54 am, purplepeep said:

    No US ranch seizures, 51 bodies discovered in Monterrey

    Although ranches controlled by Los Zetas in TX isn’t all that wild of a story at all. From a news report in the Houston Chronicle just last year, we read -

    “The FBI is advising law enforcement officers across the country that a Texas cell of Los Zetas — an increasingly powerful arm of the Mexican Gulf Cartel drug trafficking syndicate — has acquired a secluded ranch where it trains its members to “neutralize” competitors in the United States.”

    FBI: Texas drug cell trains on own ranch – May 19th, 2009

  90. #90
    On July 25th, 2010 at 8:14 am, tiredofit08 said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:42 pm, Speakup said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 7:52 pm, 24Klady said:

    Shock and awe, our south of border friends are convinced of their entitlement.

    Friends? NOT…illegal alien invading scumbags/scumhags!!!

  91. #91
    On July 25th, 2010 at 8:48 am, Flyoverman said:

    I turned the classic comedy the “Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming” yesterday at the scene where the Russian submarine commander has threatened to destroy the town and all the American towns folk are pointing every concivable firearm at the sub. Hilarious.

    I also remember Admiral Yamamoto’s assertion that invading America would be foolish, because, “there would be an American with a gun behind every blade of grass.”

    In the end when government refuses to protect us we become the well-reglated militia. We are the people behind every blade of grass and we do help our neighbor defend their homes.

    If the Zetas want to cross the border, fine. We have our own highly trained veterans armed with M4′s. They may not be in uniform, but they are just as deadly and a lot more of them.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    The right of self defense is never denied.

  92. #92
    On July 25th, 2010 at 9:40 am, Ragspierre said:

    Whole sections of Arizona are essentially “war zones” where American citizens are not advised to enter. Anybody want to argue that that territory is NOT occupied by Mexicans?

    But the cartels can buy ranches…and small governments…they don’t have to run the risk of just taking them.

  93. #93
    On July 25th, 2010 at 9:51 am, rocketman said:

    ***
    I went to my ex Mexican (now U.S. Citizen) wife’s family reunion in Anthony, Tx. a few weeks ago. They used to hold it in Juarez or in Namiquipa, Chihuahua. But it is too dangerous to assemble in a large group there now.
    ***
    Many members of the Mexican branch of the family talked about the economic and physical damage done to them by the drug wars and by the failure of the Mexican police and military to take control of the violence. And they all feel that the government is on the payroll of the drug lords. Some family members have had loved ones killed by the murderers. All have changed their ways of life–few go outside after dark. Many small businesses are closed due to gang robberies.
    ***
    The El Paso, Tx. city courthouse was hit by a few stray bullets from a Juarez shootout a few weeks ago–it is about 8 blocks from the border bridges. Fortunately no one was hit–a window was broken.
    ***
    Most .30 caliber bullets have a maximum range of 3 miles and will kill you at these ranges. A lot of downtown El Paso is “in range” now.
    ***
    The old Paso Del Norte (now Camino Real) Hotel still has a lot of bullet holes in the upper Southwest facing walls from the 1912 Pancho Villa revolution. We may see innocent bystanders killed here soon.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  94. #94
    On July 25th, 2010 at 10:09 am, jsmiddleton4 said:

    Maybe the Justice Department should file a law suit against the Border Patrol for violating parts of the Commerce Clause? After all they are impeding the flow of illegal narcotics into the rest of the country.

  95. #95
    On July 25th, 2010 at 10:28 am, Ragspierre said:

    I understand your sarcasm, js, but I read something the other day that was dead serious…

    the DoI is fining the Border Patrol for environmental damage…for performing its duties. Talk about redistribution!

    I wonder if Mexico has ever been asked to pay for damage to our border region environment?

  96. #96
    On July 25th, 2010 at 11:03 am, Christian Soldier said:

    ““We didn’t have any incidents on the American side. It’s hard for people to understand who don’t live here,” he added. “They’re not Vikings, they’re not going to invade us,..”

    Maybe we need a few VIKINGS — looks like our own Federal government is doing nothing but appease the terrorists from Mexico…

    From an off-spring of Vikings …
    C-CS

  97. #97
    On July 25th, 2010 at 11:11 am, Ty85719 said:

    2009

    Juarez, Mexico: 2,800 murders

    El Paso, Texas: 28 murders

  98. #98
    On July 25th, 2010 at 11:30 am, cicerokid said:

    On July 24th, 2010 at 8:50 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    America sure is a lonely place for you Texas provincials isn’t it? You hate Yankees, Californians, people from Chicago,

    I resemble that remark…

    Back OT, I have asked my Mexican aunt why she never returned to Nuevo Laredo to visit her birthplace. She just stared at me and blinked like nancy pelosi!

  99. #99
    On July 25th, 2010 at 12:03 pm, Lindsay said:

    The Arizona Law on illegals is going into effect July 29th, correct?

    National Guard (1200) to border on August 1st, with Mexico interfering with how they should be used.

    If Los Zetas is declaring war on the USA due to the above measures to protect our border, they picked the wrong state to begin as Texans will stop it pretty quickly and defend their land.

    I still think this was more than rumor. Diplomacy rules.

    I’d like to hear from the ranchers, as I no longer believe the MSM. Perhaps this was a drill and the border patrol/law enforcement/federal agents/Texas Rangers did not want the MSM to know and attempted a news blackout (yes, individuals called and were told nothing was happening…um, they could have been instructed to tell the public that for a reason, to avoid vigilantes and more chaos). Or, perhaps this was a short-lived push back by our side due to incursions, and the diplomats sitting behind their desks– cowering to Calderon–did not want to make news. Heaven forbid the American people (sheeple) know what is really going on to add fuel against potential amnesty by our Dear Leader and Congress. Either way, something did happen, as our border is porous and there are daily invasions by illegals. If you look at the map, the mass grave found in Monterey is on the same main road (drug run) to Nuevo Laredo, and Los Zetas is to blame. Just my two cents, but I think the news leaked and was quickly squashed.

  100. #100
    On July 25th, 2010 at 1:40 pm, TXRose said:

    Just read on Canada Free Press that FBI Informant(s) do say that Los Zetas have acquired a ranch in S TX where they train their people. Did not say that there was a takeover of the ranch…just that it had been acquired and left the impression that it happened a while ago.
    They supposedly are training people to help knock out their competition.
    An FBI operation could take years so I don’t expect any action against the gang anytime soon.

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