Who’s in the Lead for the GOP Nomination?
**Written by Doug Powers
We’re still a year and a half from the Iowa Caucus, but the speculation is picking up steam.
From HotAir by way of Conservatives 4 Palin, here’s an Economist/YouGov poll from this past week that I found a little surprising:
A name is missing from the list of possibilities that’s bound to get some folks in a twist. And why not throw Chris Christie in the polling mix just for kicks?
If I’m going to even consider Newt Gingrich, his first challenge is going to be to erase the picture from my memory of him sitting next to Nancy Pelosi and helping her peddle the climate sham. Newt’s going to have to drop the mother of all amnesia bombs for me to forget that.
A recent Quinnipiac University poll found that any Republican would beat Obama in 2012. Once a specific name and face is applied to that “any” candidate, the numbers could change dramatically in either direction.
The Economist writes that at this point in the polling for the 2008 nomination, Barack Obama wasn’t even included on the list of choices, so of course there’s a good chance that the GOP nominee might be someone not currently even under consideration. Who might that be?
At this point, put me down for Palin. In the universe that exists parallel to ours but where anything can happen, put me down for Herman Cain. Come to think of it, a Palin/Cain ticket could single-handedly save JournoList:
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True, Trollman, but the Mickey Mouse vote always comes from the Acorn-Democrat bloc. Maybe a Micky Dem primary challenge to Obama?
“I predict that this type of thinking”
Fortunately some of the leadership in the Republican Party understand work needs to be done and we can not rely on that kind of thinking.
chapoutier said:
The best way to determine if something is true is if liberals deny it.
All that is needed to win in 2012. Print out signs and bumper stickers that read (fill in the blank):
How’s that “hope & change”
workin’ out for ya?
_____________ 2012
The big question for 2012 is how divisive is Obama willing to be to attempt to stay in power.
Not how easy he will be to beat.
But how much damage to the country will he leave in his wake.
There is going to be a lot of work to do both as the run up to and in repairing the damage after 2012′s election.
Nothing is going to be “easy”……
*I’ll go you one better; I predict Hillary will defeat P-BO in the runup to the 2012 general election; P-BO is now fully exposed, and not being able to put that genie back in the bottle, there will be a split in the Democrat Party leading up to 2012.
Yup, an updated version of Reagan’s “Are you better off now than you were four years ago?”
As soon as the Democrats think their only chance of keeping the Whitehouse is to run someone other than Obama he’ll be toast. Hilary instead of Obama is not a big stretch of the imagination.
Out of that list I would vote Palin as well. Gingrich lost me with his Pelosi love affair as well.
Given the folks who have participated in this thread up to this point I’m surprised no mention of the Tea Party has been interjected.
We’ll know if that’s coming if she resigns her Sec Of State gig. Probably won’t happen, but I think she would be a tougher candidate then Obama.
You just mentioned it.
Ain’t I cute purple…..
*They’ll be persuaded to that end right after 11/2/2010, that is unless the GOP capitulates and makes the mistake of working with this administration; Now that wouldn’t be a stretch.
js #110, ummm, I did. Bachman and her bid to take over the Tea Party movement and shift it to the Repubs by sponsoring her TP Caucus thingy. It’s turned off a lot if (I) and (D) supporters from what I hear.
The thing with Obama tanking and the DNC looking for their own hope and change is they can’t go to a white guy. No way, no how. But a white woman such as Hilary? That they could do and get away with it.
I wonder how long it will take before people start framing polling questions from how well does X do vs. Obama to “X vs. Obama” and “X vs. Hilary”.
I mentioned tea party energy #21.
24K…
Yes, read your post. Was thinking more in terms of who the Tea Party would endorse for President and which candidate they are looking for.
The Tea Party Caucus thing is goofed. Not thought through at all.
But everyone thought you were just referring to a caffeine rush, rambler.
*Well, now that you mentioned it, entrenched political elites such as Newt, Mitt, and now even Sarah, will not lead us out of the wilderness; It will take forward thinking types like Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, and Sharron Angle to acually speak the painful truth, so when the real pain hits the fan, people will know who to turn to; That is at least my hope anyways.
Still would like to see who the Tea Party dudes/dudettes would like to see run for President.
caffine rush…… I like it.
Love Palin, but she is political poison. If she runs, Obama gets a second term.
We need a dark horse.
The problem is systemic. Unless the primary system is changed the dems are going to pick a weak DIABLO candidate for us as they did with McShame. I did not even bother to vote in the primary as by the time my state had its primary McShame was the only candidate left. My pick for President at this point is Governor Brewer even though she is endorsed by Sarah Palin, who I believe is just another RINO/DIABLO for her backing of McShame.
js#121
You’re right. Have not seen the tea parties across the country actually endorse any candidate, much less an ideal candidate that would attract the dollars and support a national figure would generate. With the millions needed to even run in the primaries, it’s a tough haul.
We will need to win by at least 5 percentage points to offset the massive voter fraud that the Dems will conduct with the assistance of the DOJ.
You can put that one in the bank.
On July 24th, 2010 at 4:39 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:
The Tea Parties are about principles, not individual candidates.
A candidate doesn’t receive an “endorsement” from “the Tea Party”. Instead, a candidate endorses the Tea Party movement.
I disagree. They are not “speaking for” the Tea Party movement, but rather “listening to” it…
…unlike the rest of Congress, who have wilfully ignored hundreds of thousands of Tea Party Patriots.
Here you go RED PILL
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/11/19/huckabee
Do a search and you can find many more.
Did you not pay attention to the last campaign?
NeoFan,
A quote from the link you provided (emphasis mine):
He’s NOT “a major phony global warming believer” as you falsely claim.
And he’s spot-on when it comes to energy independence, which includes using our own oil vs. importing it from Communist and Jihad-supporting countries…
When was the last time you heard “a major phony global warming believer” say that we need to drill in ANWR?
Whomever we conservatives and independents choose, we have to make sure that it’s OUR choice, not the choice of our contemptible news media, who will do their best to push the worst possible Republican candidate. Remember McCain? Remember the virtual media blackout on Fred Thompson?
This poll is a good example. There are a host of actual conservatives who they could have included, but chose not to.
On July 24th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, ChicagoRobb said:
I agree. Those Jews who traditionally vote Democratic may finally have had their eyes opened to how anti-Semetic the Democrat[ic Socialist] Party really is.
And while some conservatives both here and at HotAir don’t like Huckabee, I think you would have a hard time finding something with which you disagree in his Presidential campaign stand on the issues.
Keep in mind, too, that Huckabee has been building trust among those who have historically voted Democrat but are ready for “CHANGE”.
Huckabee has had guests on his show that practically no other Republican could have. Michelle Obama for one. Viewers have seem Huckabee as someone who can truly unite this country.
Given a choice between Huckabee and Obama in November 2012, I have a hard time believing that any conservative would stay home or vote for Obama. And many Democrats and Independents who voted for Obama in 2008 would vote for Huckabee in 2012.
I don’t think the same could be said about Obama voters chosing to vote for Palin. I really like Palin, but she is the lightning rod for far-left hatred right now. People who listen to far-left MSM have been brainwashed against Palin.
On July 24th, 2010 at 7:34 pm, ent said:
I was initially a Fred Thompson fan. Sadly, though, Fred Thompson turned out to be the stalking horse of his “good friend John McCain”.
Thompson entered the race late and left early. He was never in it to win it. He was in it to help McCain win it. If you look back at McCain’s run in 2000, you’ll find that McCain’s loss to the evangelical George W. Bush in the South Carolina primary was a turning point in the race. McCain delivered his “Agents of Intolerance” speech shortly thereafter, and he never forgot that SC primary loss.
Thompson’s whole role was to split the evangelical Christian vote in SC so that McCain, not Huckabee, would win the SC primary.
Mission accomplished, Fred Thompson quit the race three days later.
I’m not the only one who came to realize that Fred Thompson was John McCain’s stalking horse…
ABG: anybody but gingrich
Quick way to solve the other side picking our candidate. NO OPEN PRIMARIES. The national party should mandate to the state parties that only registered Repubs vote in Republican primaries. Problem solved.
ChicagoRobb,
Unfortunately, some Democrats could still switch their afiliation before the primary, if they cared more about voting in the Republican primary than the Democratic primary.
That could also work the other way. In those places where a single Republican candidate had the overwhelming majority of support, Republicans could vote in the Dem primaries and screw them up. As a matter of fact, I don’t know why they don’t, except that Republicans/conservatives don’t generally think that way. You have to have a devious, underhanded (i.e. liberal) mindset to think of things like that.
txvet2,
It happened in Florida in 2008. Democrats said that they would not seat delegates from Florida at the convention, because Florida had moved their primary up in the schedule. Since the Democratic primary wasn’t going to count anyway, many Democrats voted in the Republican primary.
Exit polls in the Florida primary showed that fully 20% of the people voting in the Republican primary identified themselves as either Democrat or Independent.
take a look at Lieutenant Colonel Allen B West (US Army, Retired). He would be a great president. Knows what he is talking about.
I know many got turned off when Palin endorsed McCain, but that has been the only political fault I’ve seen her commit so far in my eyes. She probably did it as a small token of thanks for bringing her onto the political stage. But, as far as I know, she has only made one token appearance and hasn’t endorsed him any further. Did it hurt her politically? Did it diminish her a bit in my eyes? Yes to both questions, but it doesn’t change my support for her considering all the RINO’s out there that want to run for President.
I cannot, in good faith support any other serious Republican or Democrat candidate except for Palin or Ron Paul. I think they both have a good grasp on our country’s culture, history, and what problems we are facing right now. As long as Palin surrounds herself with good people, unlike being surrounded by McCain’s and Romney’s people during the last election, she will be fine.
She is going to have to screw up far worse than she has done before she loses my support. If that happens, then I will sit the election out and wait for the total meltdown of our country because I will NEVER support a Democrat or RINO ever again with my money or vote.
Some of you RINO plants will say I should “hold my nose” and vote for a RINO if that is all the choice I have, but that’s like choosing which poison I want, the fast acting or the slow one. I would choose neither.
So not only do you get Barack Obama (the fast-acting poison), you stick the rest of us with him too!
How is that a good thing?
Watched Herman Cain. Couldn’t believe all those racists in the audience. And these were those awful southern bigots! Like me. Herman Cain for POTUS
You fail to understand you are not being given the choice to not choose. If you do not choose, the choice will be made for you.
You fail to understand with a slow acting poison there is a chance you’ll have the time to reach the antidote to the poison.
You fail to understand someone who is less vile is more likely to come around with a compromise to your way of thinking.
And you fail to understand the Left would love for you to wait for the Russia 1917 style meltdown. They win all the chips.
Social disintegration is never the conservative’s friend.
Your thinking is remarkably similar to that of the leftists. It is most certainly not conservative.
I won’t choose a RINO. We have done that for many years now and what did that do for us? Nothing! Just a slow slide to Socialism. At least with Obama taking us hyperspeed to socialism, people are finally waking up and fighting. Voting for RINOs don’t work. They just add to the problem.
Vote for men and women whose actions prove they adhere to the Constitution during the primaries and weed out the RINOs. If a RINO makes it into the general election, don’t vote for him. Vote third party or stay home. Close the pocketbook and don’t donate to them. It will take time, but that is the only way you will take down the RINOs.
As for being “certainly not conservative”, bull! Son I’ve been voting and living conservative since Reagan’s second term when I was finally old enough to vote. You don’t know me nor should you be judging me with your titles or lack of them.
The current RINO Republican and Democrat parties are a cancer on our Republic. You can’t stop the cancer by choosing which cancer you want to die from. Irradiate both parties even if that means we lose a few elections. That’s the cure.
Here’s an idea. What would it take to get the State legislatures to force a “None of the above” choice on the ticket for each office? If “None of the Above” wins, then both parties have to submit two new candidates and allow the electorate to vote on them within 30 days.
I get in trouble for mentioning stuff like this here…but that’s OK. Will Obama have to be vetted again, (actually for the first time), if he runs in 2012. That could be a factor is his decision to run…or not.
Bob,
Neil Abercrombie is the Representative from Hawaii who:
Neil Abercrombie is now running for Governor of Hawaii. If he wins, you can count on a Birth Certificate being manufactured for Obama and produced once Abercrombie is in power.
We know that Tim Adams, who was senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu during the 2008 presidential campaign, said that there is no long form Hawaiian birth certificate for Obama.
If Obama were born at Kapi’olani Medical Center, then there would be a long form Hawaiian birth certificate for Obama.
The contrapositive is that if there is no long form Hawaiian birth certificate for Obama, then the “Obama birth narrative” is fraudulent.
We need a member of Congress to ask for the long form Hawaiian birth certificate for Obama NOW, before Neil Abercrombie gains the opportunity to manufacture one.
Yep RedPill, it’s a crying shame most people are willing to let their nation go down the tubes without loudly demanding action on the only issue that could save America.
I don’t get it, but, for the most part at least, on this site I try not to mention it, (OK I failed this time).
Seems most here are satisfied with Obama, at least enough not to mention the unmentionable.
I’m thinkin’ Obama may not even run for a 2nd term…
Nah, he’d miss all the expensive food, travel, date nights, parties, celebrities, golfing, Air Force One, Marie One, etc.
Marine One…
First on the agenda, don’t let the Dem’s pick our candidate…..
It would be fitting if it were Charles Djou.
AlohaGuy,
While that’s an intriguing idea, because Charles Djou won the seat vacated when Neil Abercrombie left to run for Governor, I’m not sure that Charles would be the best person to request it.
Charles will have an uphill battle to win a 1-on-1 contest for that seat in November, in a highly Democratic district, and I don’t think he needs to tick off any Democrats.
I would prefer for it to be from a Representative who was actually present during the Electoral College vote certification, then voted in favor of H.Res. 593, and has now heard from Tim Adams that there is not any record of a Hawaiian birth for Obama. These Representatives took it on faith (i.e., trusting the biased and untrustworthy “FactCheck.org”, rather than inspecting any document themselves). These Representatives have a Constitutional obligation to qualify the President and Vice-President. If they ask to see the long form birth certificate, and Hawaii can’t provide it, then the Obama birth narrative is fraudulent.
Why aren’t we allowed to mention the birth certificate problem here? I’ve noticed that too? Have we allowed the left to make this subject forbidden?
I still wonder why some here call Sarah Palin ‘poison’ ???
Is plain speaking and standing up against many odds wrong?
Michelle O would start wearing the scary, dissatisfied face she had before her “…for the first time in my adult life…” speech, if Barry O does not scramble to provide her the benes she’s grown accustomed to!
No matter. We, the people, have to think of the greater good. Out with the Obamas, on with better and happier times with a Republican in the WH!
I pray she doesn’t run…
Because I fear that (to paraphrase Tojo was it?)
A Palin nomination will awaken (or re-awaken from their pot slumbers) the sleeping idiot that is liberal America…