Who’s in the Lead for the GOP Nomination?
**Written by Doug Powers
We’re still a year and a half from the Iowa Caucus, but the speculation is picking up steam.
From HotAir by way of Conservatives 4 Palin, here’s an Economist/YouGov poll from this past week that I found a little surprising:
A name is missing from the list of possibilities that’s bound to get some folks in a twist. And why not throw Chris Christie in the polling mix just for kicks?
If I’m going to even consider Newt Gingrich, his first challenge is going to be to erase the picture from my memory of him sitting next to Nancy Pelosi and helping her peddle the climate sham. Newt’s going to have to drop the mother of all amnesia bombs for me to forget that.
A recent Quinnipiac University poll found that any Republican would beat Obama in 2012. Once a specific name and face is applied to that “any” candidate, the numbers could change dramatically in either direction.
The Economist writes that at this point in the polling for the 2008 nomination, Barack Obama wasn’t even included on the list of choices, so of course there’s a good chance that the GOP nominee might be someone not currently even under consideration. Who might that be?
At this point, put me down for Palin. In the universe that exists parallel to ours but where anything can happen, put me down for Herman Cain. Come to think of it, a Palin/Cain ticket could single-handedly save JournoList:
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Doug, a Sarah/Herman for 2012 would be wonderful! I love both of them. Herman is one smart man and I do not think Sarah is as stupid as people think she is.
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I agree with you Doug. Newt is a no go unless he can show that he has beyond a shadow of a doubt does NOT believe in global warming!
Actions speak louder than words and sitting on the couch with Pelosi speaks volumes.
Palin would be much better as the head of the RNC. She is great at rattling the Dems cage.
Romney? Romneycare is a hard thing to overcome.
Newt? Gimme a break.
Huck? Gimme a break, part deux.
Daniels? Now we’ve reached the bong smokers.
Can’t we do better than these? Seriously.
Chris Christie is showing great promise, and not by just words but by deeds. More like him please.
QUICK someone get Phil his meds!!!
My attitude towards Palin is the same as Abraham Lincoln’s about U.S. Grant.
When Lincoln was told he needed to relieve Grant because of his alleged drinking and his casualties, Lincoln simply responded, “I need this man, he fights.”
We need people like Palin, Bachman, Brewer, Bohner, and Steve King. They fight.
Ooops sorry, coffee, Christie fights too. I am remiss.
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Sarah Palin is my choice also. She seems to be the only candidate with a real conservative track record. Her performance as Alaska’s governor showed that she will make good economic decisions and that she will take on the special interest groups to give the voters and taxpayers real protection.
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In her personal life she “walks the walk”–witness her decision to give Trig life instead of aborting him for her own convenience.
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My choice for Vice President–or for Secretary of State–is John Bolton. Whenever I hear the Sarah’Cuda or the Stach speak–they make so much more sense than our current Comrade Obama and his marxist regime do. Mitt Romney and Condi Rice are also good choices.
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I don’t think that President Obama will run in 2012–his actions will continue the destruction of our economy and he will self-destruct. However, the socialist / marxist party is grooming up the clueless and corrupt HILLARY CLINTON!! to take over and continue The One’s actions in setting up the new United Socialist States of Amerikka.
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Donate to Sarah Palin’s PAC and give her the “ammo” she needs to take out this evil regime. I don’t see any other candidate that will work for us–instead of cutting deals and getting rich at our expense.
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John Bibb
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The hardest thing for me to forget about Newt is endorsing Dede Scuzzyfava.
For Mitt Romney, it’s RomneyCare.
For Mike Huckabee, it’s letting illegals go to college on in-state tuition.
I love Sarah, but, I feel she needs more executive experience. I think she would be better replacing Mike Steele.
Why don’t we just focus on 2010 first. If we screw up this year, it won’t matter which RINO wins the nomination in 2012.
The GOP needs to not trot out the retreads for 2012. Newt, Romney and Huckabee. These people along with McCain just add to the lesser of the evils voting. All of these people had their chance to protect and defend the Constitution and they were wishy-washy. We are treated to random brilliant points of objection from the GOP, but it hasn’t been consistent enough.
Herman Cain is spot on. There is no happiness with big gov policies and programs. Happiness comes from contributing to society not by having the gov decide what that contribution is supposed to be.
This Country is STILL in the Hands of the PEOPLE!!!
I want that on a bumper sticker.
NO NEWT IS GOOD NEWT! The GOP has to get its act together soon, meaning a) Steele needs to go b) Newt can’t have a ready forem c) All RINOs must exit stage left, no money, no forem d) Get behind the real Conservatives, in office and seeking office and that’s just a start if we’re to salvage our great Nation with the aid of the GOP
I agree about Mitt Romney – Massachusetts health care is a mess p on his say so. Obamacare used it as it’s base model. Nope, he’s not going to fly. All of the other contenders couldn’t poll better than the “Atlas Shrugged” No Preference lable. That’s a real rousing endorsement of non-impact. Nope, we need vocal plain-spoken people like Bobby Jindal or Chris Christie to run. They don’t seem afraid of anyone and don’t talk like our current flock of bumbling incumbents.
I guess we can surrender this thread to our resident RINOs.
Palin/Cain 2012, I would vote for that ticket.
It’s easy to choose because all one has to do is eliminate the totally unacceptable and what remains is what one votes for. I will never vote for Romney. I will never vote for Gingrich. I will never vote for Huckabee. I will never . . . and so it goes.
Look, there are no ideals here. For one thing, I’m not running. For another,I have strong disagreements with Palin on a number of issues. I suspect everyone on this site does. But we vote for the best the political process gives us. In 2008, it was McCain. [Forgive me, I have to go in the corner and weep for a few hours . . .
OK, I'm back.]
Assuming elections are held in 2012, by default Palin is by far the best choice. A Palin-Jindal ticket would be ideal, but it’s not going to happen. It might very well be Romney-Gingrich. So all I can do is support Sarah with the reservations noted and hope for the best. Good luck to the country, but as my favorite philosopher noted, no one should need as much luck as America does.
WOW WHAT A GREAT INSPIRATIONAL SPEAKER! Palin/Cain sounds great to me also. Two people with common sense for a change and two people who have grown up in the real world of America.
Hang tough Phil, hang tough.
I love both fiery Palin and intellectually rigorous Newt, but probably neither is electable. That leaves either Romney or Huckabee, although another governor from Arkansas is not an appealing concept.
Way, way too early to pick 2012 candidates. Remember in 2008 it was “supposed” to be Clinton v. Guiliani. The republican candidate is probably not even on the radar now.
The real concern must always be Whats best for America, NOT whats best for Republicans,nor a particular politician. The country needs citizens that care about our country and do what needs to be done, disregarding their own political careers. Yes, I like Sarah, Bobby, Chris, and several others, certainly preferable to the current criminals and clowns that we have in control now.
Gee, Sarah Palin/Condi Rice as the 2012 ticket. The mind reels as to what the Republican Party could offer. Condi would make chopped liver out of O’Joe.
Newt is tied for third with “no preference”. The GOP doesn’t really get it yet. It wants to leverage the Tea Party energy with out correcting the reason the tea party formed. They want a form of big gov too, only they want their version of big gov. RETURN TO THE PRINCIPLES OF THE CONSTITUTION. It is just that simple. No more wavering on repeal and replace. They either believe in the oath to the Constitution or they do not. Are they saying what they need to to preserve their jobs? If that is the case, then they are part of the problem and not part of the solution. We shouldn’t need to keep sending lousy legislation to the Supreme Court, when it never should have passed in the first place. I want their collective boots off the throats of the American public so we can clean up their mess before China owns us.
The only ‘poll’ that might matter this early is the one on Intrade. Current bids:
Romney 29.0
Palin 19.4
Thune 12.6
Gingrich 11.0
Pawlenty 10.4
Huckabee 5.8
Daniels 5.1
Jeb Bush 5.0
Ron Paul 3.5
Everyone else is lower.
If you think the bids are too high, you can hit the bid. If you think they are underestimating a prospect’s chances, you can hit the ask.
Once Intrade enters the fray, other polls are silly.
Flyoverman, I consider it an honor to be the lightnening rod to the RINOs who simply cannot make their case and so resort to attacking the messenger.
This thread is a waste of everyone’s time. Let’s not relive 2008. The best way to avoid a RINO LOTE 2012 is to take care of business this year. We need a NEW Republican party and the fastest way to accomplish that is to make sure McCain is not on the ticket in November.
If it’s got to be a Sarah Herman combo, I want HERMAN in front. I sort of like Sarah’s moral convictions but her endorsement of McCain make me wary. I’d much rather have a guy in charge with no political attachments.
I’m not sure what the “Newt” is thinking. Even if he could somehow manage to get the Republican nomination he is more of a box of “damaged goods” than Day Quayle ever was accused of being. About the worst thing anyone could say about Quayle was he couldn’t spell potato and that destroyed any chance of him becoming President. Newt has not only managed to make the left and the “Lamestream” Media hate him, he has also managed to leave a bad taste in a number of conservatives mouths on more things than just fraternizing with SanFranNan.
One last thing and I’m off for the weekend.
Quoting Michelle, “John McCain IS what is wrong with the Republican Party.”
It’s very easy to fix that problem. When you see his name on the ballot, vote for the other guy. Stop thinking! Just do it!
Phil we only disagree on a level of degree. I think I am a bit more pragmatic, but your basic premise I cannot disgree with.
To me the poster child for the “RINO” that you despise is Trent Lott. He epitomizes what is wrong with the GOP.
the list above is loaded with GOP’ers, country club repubs, same old crap. Sara lost me with her support of McAmnesty. Anyone ever hear her say what she would do with the illegals already her? Yep, nothing but comments supporting McShame, Sara on illegal immigration is comprehensive immigration leading to chain migration… NO…NO…NO.
Where is Christie, Jindal, Bolton, Cain( unelectable for a few reasons, ooops should never say unelectable again, America is the country where an illegal born in a grass hut in another part of the world can become president, sorry to say), or how about Senator DeMint? It’s early let’s get rid of these old retreads before we let the RNC shoot us in the foot again.
Alaskan,
Herman would make chopped liver out of joe and/or this bho! Do we even know if Condi is a r?
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NO NEWT is GOOD NEWT! He is severly damaged goods.
Palin has too much personal drama.
Chris Christie is too liberal on social issues.
Put me down for Jim DeMint.
Although Obama is making all of these people look good.
I agree with all the critiques, and this is the time to try to get ourselves the best candidate possible, but remember the “I will NEVER vote for …” mindset is what got us President Barrack Hussein Obama, national health care, crippling taxes and regulation, and the government takeover of almost everything!
Are we sure we want to do that to ourselves again? Seriously?
I don’t want to “punish” the party by surrendering even more freedom, and I don’t know why conservatives would want to do that either.
As for Chris Christie, he has emphatically said he doesn’t want to be president. While he can change his mind, The Big Man didn’t even move into the governor’s mansion, preferring instead to drive over an hour from his home each day. Everything else aside, I don’t think he wants to move to Washington!
Thanks for the video, Doug. I posted it on my FB page.
I can definitely see November from my house!
John Bolton and anybody even fairly good gets my attention.
Johnny boy is a smart, in-tune man and he would be a good candidate. He and Palin might be OK, he and Cain would be good.
Political savvy and business acumen would be a pretty good choice and one that could (hopefully) also undo the damage(s) done by the current usurper.
I think this is correct. If I were a betting man, I would say Romney in 2012, a prospect that frankly horrifies me. Obama would breeze to victory over Romney, just like Clinton made short work of Dole.
I strongly disagree. It won’t be 1996. People will be paying attention.
Nope. I like Sarah Palin, I really do, but not for US President. None of the above, definitely not Newt! Ugh. All are re-treads, even though I initially liked Romney in 2008.
I want someone new: Jindal and Christie seem to be doing great work. I also like Paul Ryan very much and his ideas on moving forward and the economy. All of these three men are very, very smart and don’t use teleprompters!
We’ll have to see. I am not surprised at her early lead, but she is also a retread with too much history to deal with. I think she’d be great to replace Steele in the GOP or to have her own radio or TV spot.
Whoever he is, I hope he can unite the GOP and Indpendents and beat back the Dems in DC.
Flyoverman said:
Some other fighters worth supporting…
1)
The Chicago Machine tried to keep her off the ballot, but she has won that battle…
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/good_day/cedra-crenshaw-tea-party-ballot-controversy-aj-wilhelmi-20100723
2) Lt. Colonel Allen West
The Democrats’ War on West…
Blacklisting Lt Colonel Allen West And His Wife
*The GOP must get more forward thinking than they currently are; Going back to elitists such as Newt or Mitt is a big mistake, and would be no more than a carryover of Bush 2; That does nothing to provide the changes this country actually needs.
*In no particular order, I nominate the following:
**Allen West: As they say, once you go black, you never go back, and if we ever get a chance at a do-over, this black man IS proud of his country!
**Herman Cain: See Allen West!
**Michele Bachmann: A more thoughtful, mature, unwavering version of Sarah Palin!
**Chris Christie: Our American version of Churchill, The English Bulldog!
**Bobby Jindal: More common sense in one hair follicle than this entire administration of progressive socialists!
**Jim DeMint: He’s not interested, but he is currently fighting more mightily than anyone else in the GOP to save that party from itself!
**Nikki Haley: A conservative woman you can trust!(Sarah Palin, not so much)
***I will admit, Michele Bachmann is my favorite at present!
Oh, Herman Cain rocks! I had never heard of him but will look at him now.
What I don’t want to see is whoever the nominee is in 2012, I don’t want to see folks whining that their candidate did not get it and they are staying home on election day. That worked real well in 2008 when we got Dear Leader, didn’t it?
No candidate will be perfect, but any one of them mentioned today will be better than socialism and Chicago thuggery.
Bachmann/Palin in 2012!!!!
Who is ‘Herman Cain’?
love2rumba,
Check out the video Doug has at the top here. You might want to check out what and who Herman is. He is a very intelligent man. He would not make the shade of his skin an issue to divide our country either as this bho is doing.
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Of the top four on the list, one is a true conservative, one may be a true conservative, and two are suspiciously RINOistic. Tim Pawlenty…please! He may be a nice guy, but something about him sets off my “spidey senses.” I can’t put my finger on it…yet.
I know nothing about Daniels. Barbour, well, I don’t think he has national appeal, even though his name recognition is high. Pence, and Thune are, from what I have seen of them, strong conservatives, and may be dark horse candidates after the November elections.
Newt and the Huck need to show me they’ve had epiphanies regarding their past associations with elected Progressive demons. Of the two, Newt is more presidential, IMO.
The next election requires us all to vote not only with our hearts and minds, but we can’t afford to ignore those gut feelings so many have pushed aside in previous elections. Gut feelings, instincts are seldom wrong…at least for me.
We must educate our non-political friends about the neo-progressive socialist movement (formerly known as liberal Democrats), and show them evidence that what comes out of their mouths in promises is the opposite of what is intended and delivered.
I like a Christie/Jindal ticket (in either order). Both have been proving that they are more than meer words which is more than can be said on 90% of the politicians across the board.
Sheesh, nothing like stacking the deck in favor of Sarah, huh? Put her up against a bungh of has-been retreads. I’d like to see how she fares against Jim DeMint, Michele Bachmann, Marco Rubio, and Tom Coburn. You know, people who’ve actually have substance to them.
On July 24th, 2010 at 12:42 pm, letget said:
I know you are talking about Cain, but have you seen the video of West answering a question on this very point?
The woman asking the question was in tears over how Obama and Co. are dividing this country.
West gave an answer that was/is spot-on.
One people, one Nation, under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
I don’t have a horse yet, but I do know that if I did, he/she isn’t on that list.
Please don’t speak of Jindal running for President.
He is not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President and Commander in Chief.
He is a “native-born” citizen, but not a “natural born citizen”. Why not? Because he did not have two U.S. citizen parents at his birth, so at his birth he was also subject to the jurisdiction of another country.
Just like Obama.
ITookTheRedPill,
I saw that video on West. This man is really something and I just pray he get elected. I would vote for him in a heart beat if I could. We need 95 in the senate just like him!
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Can’t get behind Palin either. Same problems others have noted with Pawlenty. Creepy…..
This stuff is way too early to matter.
We’ll see all kinds of folks as possible candidates. Some no one is even thinking about at this juncture.
Newt? Really? Maybe cabinet member but no way President.
I’d bet we’ll see Jeb Bush in the mix before too long.
For me, it’s a “wait and see”. I really don’t like any potential candidate right now; however, things will change over time, and positions may change. Someone else may come along, too.
Palin could be a good “draw their fire” candidate though. Let the left shoot at her, as they will and are 100% committed to doing, and she takes the flak while other folks move forward and build momentum.
The major problem with Romney, is that he is the one who begat Romneycare which has unfortunate similarities to Obamacare…
By the way…thank you,Letget, for your comments on Herman Cain.
How about the smartest person in DC? That would be Paul Ryan.
I just watched the Herman Cain video and I think he would blow away anyone in that poll in the primaries. If it’s not him, it needs to be someone like him. Someone with a passion for the principles that are the foundation of this country. Not someone like McCain who wants to make nice with the other side.
First things first though. If we don’t have a significant power shift after this years elections, 2012 won’t matter. I don’t mean just a shift to the republicans. If conservatives don’t take over the house or at least win enough seats in the Senate to jam things up over there, the USA as we have known it is done for.
What I fear is going to happen is if the Republicans give us another McCain we just might have a Civil War on our hands. After all, “altering and abolishing” is really what the second amendment is all about.
He has already given an excellent answer for that. It is what the people of Massachusetts wanted. It wasn’t forced on the rest of the country.
In our system of government a politician is elected both to lead and to represent the wishes of their constituents, with the emphasis on the representing part. Romney did the best anyone could have done given the idiocy of the average Massachusetts voter.
Of course he doesn’t put it exactly that way.
I hope you’re right, but nobody ever lost at election underestimating the intelligence of the American people. In any event, I don’t believe Obama is unbeatable, but Romney is not the man to do it. And even if he were, he would simply be the next Hoover-Bush. In fact, he would complete the trifecta and finish the Republican Party.
One thing that I don’t think I’ve seen reported/repeated anywhere is that Palin was the top choice of readers at HotAir three months before McCain picked her. On May 29th, 2008, Palin received 46% of the votes, with the next closest VP candidate being Romney with 27%, then Jindal with 12%, “Other” with 10%, Huckabee with 3%, Ridge with 2%, and Crist with 1%.
HotAir readers picked Palin as the top VP choice long before McCain did.
If that’s his defense, then it’s pretty pitiful. It’s what the media in Massachusetts wanted. The people simply weren’t paying attention. (or, did they really enjoy being told that they had to, no matter what their preferences, pay for expensive insurance benefits mandated by state law instead of cheaper smaller packages?)
Besides, isn’t it the job of a leader to exercise his own judgment to some degree?
True.
BTW, one might think from my comments that I favor Romney at this point. I do not. Although of course I will vote for him in 2012 if the alternative is Obama or Clinton.
Do not count Huckabee out. After 4 four years of the “stealth muslim”, this country may be begging for a Christian leader. i’m sure a good percentage of the Jewish community who voted for B. Hussein may be.
Yes. The average Massachusetts voter is far more stupid and far more morally deranged than you imagine.
That was long before anyone knew much of anything about her, except that she had an 80% approval rating in Alaska. Who wouldn’t be enticed by that? Many of us have come to discover since then just how overrated she is.
On July 24th, 2010 at 1:13 pm, jsmiddleton4 said:
I like Palin a lot, and I think she is “the real deal”, but I also recognize the truth of what you’re saying.
The “Palin 2012″ campaign is even taking flak RIGHT NOW in the Asian media (“Is Palin Gunning for 2012?”). Every liberal smear used against Palin shows up in that video, including the false smear of “I can see Russia from my house” (as evidenced by the part where she goes outside and waves at the “neighbor” who has a Russian flag on their roof).
On July 24th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, Blackstone said:
Exactly how, in your opinion, is Palin “overrated”?
Please be specific in your response.
Yup. RI used to have a law on the books that it was lawful to shoot any MA resident who crossed the state line.
“Paul Ryan”
Just not dynamic enough to pull of President. Another guy I’d want on the Cabinet however.
Is that why their legislature had to go as far out of its way as possible to prevent then from voting on the proposed marriage amendment? Is that why the same legislature has been forced to approve a bill denying various state benefits to illegal aliens?
The far more likely explanation for RomneyCare is that Massachusetts voters are uninformed, not morally deranged. I would bet that if you asked them, point blank, if they believed that they should be able to choose what insurance benefits they want to pay for without the legislature telling them to, the vast majority would say yes. But so many of them are unaware that that’s even an issue. It’s the job of a leader to make them aware of these things. Romney failed. Or more likely, he was happy keeping them in that state of ignorance.
I like Palin’s fire and Gingrich’s brain.
Speaking of that Asian anamated video portayal of Sarah Palin, the following comment at HotAir has me laughing so hard I hurt…
You left out the ‘stupid’ part.
Perhaps you were not following the issue there back then? Those idiots were determined to get nanny healthcare.
And don’t get your hopes too high with regard to what appears to be a glimmering of sanity on any particular issue. MA has been an Idiot’s Paradise for a very long time.
I think Romney influenced Scott Brown’s vote in favor of the “Financial Reform” bill.
Her endorsements of McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Carly Fiorina are disturbing trends to the effect that she’s not the conservative that she makes herself out to be. What was particularly troubling for me is that she had not a word to say about our problems with illegal aliens, until John “3:16″ McCain all of the sudden decided to become all pro-enforcement in a naked attempt to take votes from Hayworth. Then she got the green light.
And though it was 2 years ago, the answers she gave in the Katie Couric interview showed that she was way, wayyy out of her league. Now maybe she’s completely reformed herself in such a short period of time, but I’ve seen scant evidence of it.
jsm, I thought Paul Ryan was very dynamic explaining to the nitwits in Congress how Obamacare would not be good for the country. He has a plan. So I respectfully don’t agree.
It is going to be interesting. I am praying for a dark horse surprise who will unite us all. I don’t think I will like the same old rerun of who is not good enough, etc. That said, I do not want Huckabee, Palin, Romney or any of the rest who already tried.No Newt, no way.
We have a united goal: to retake Congress and the Presidency. That is what matters.
Yup, again. MA has lost touch with all its colonial history in favor of the more intellectually fashionable progressive ideas. They favor things which appear to work on paper, but fail in reality. The state prides itself with the stat that it has more degree holders per square inch than any other state. Too bad they haven’t figured out how to have a prosperous economy. These are the same voters who gave us a steady string of Ted Kennedy’s dumb ideas. And how that big dig these days?
The legislature certainly was. But it’s interesting that there were no ballot questions to that effect. If the people really were “determined”, as you say, there would have been something on the ballot. But the powers that be did not want the people getting involved.
The people elected that legislature, and they continue to elect the same kind of slime.
I am very familiar with this ‘it’s not the voters, it’s the legislature’ excuse. I live in California.
The people whine and complain about the state’s government, and then they continue to elect the most leftwing of Democrats.
Idiots, on average. Deranged idiots.
There is not one on that list that I would support. Romney and Palin are Maveric supporters. Huckster is a major phony global warming believer. And Newt?
He has had his chance and stands with Pelosi on global warming.
We need someone that will slash the federal government by 98.9 percent.
Chris Christy, Paul Ryan are names that should be on a poll but none of the names on this one have a chance of doing what is needed.
And Mitt Romney. Let’s not lose focus here.
But the fact that they do whine and complain belies your argument that the politicians were giving the people what they wanted. I never said they were being rational.
Palin and Gingrich have both come out strongly against the muslims putting their victory mosque at Ground Zero.
That wipes away a lot of sin. Obama and his minions think we are the insensitive (racist/bigoted/intolerant/etc) ones for opposing the mosque.
Democrats are just plain evil.
Chris Christie/Marco Rubio
Sarah Palin for Head of GOP, rabble rouser and chief fundraiser.
Why do they keep recycling the same tired old names from last election? We need brand new blood. None of the names cited are of interest to me. We need to get out of our rut.
Newt would make a good Presidential advisor, but not President.
My very first choice would be Glenn Beck, but I know that is impossible. He is the one person I would trust with my life and I would pretty much cut off both of my legs if he asked me to.
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HI BEENTHERE–#14. …Assuming elections are held in 2012…
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Even during the Civil War Abraham Lincoln held elections. And he had a lot of traitorous democrats (aka copperheads) that wanted to halt the war and let the Confederacy have their own slavery country. Lincoln respected our Constitution–even if it meant getting booted out of office.
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If Comrade Obama (PBUH) and his marxist ilk cancel the 2012 elections it will be American Civil War II. The United States Citizens will never accept a Castro Cuba type of government. Too many of us who served (and serve) in our Military took the oath to DEFEND AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE U.S.A AGAINST ALL ENEMIES–BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. And we still believe in this promise–crossing this “line in the sand” would be lunacy.
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John Bibb
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We will have full elections in 2010 and 2012.
Excellent video of West…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkGQmCZjJ0k
The first half of that video starts slow, with the questioner and the first politician’s answer. But when you get to West, it’s spot-on. He understands the motivation of those who want to kill us.
On July 24th, 2010 at 2:14 pm, NeoFan said:
Link, please.
I think it is great that I finally found something I agree on with many of the people here.
I would LOVE for Palin to be the GOP nominee.
Thinking back to ’78-’79 I recall many Democrats said the same of Ronald Reagan, Chap. Be careful of what you wish for – especially with the 2nd Coming Of Jimmy Carter now in the WH.
The way many in the country have responded negatively to the left and the leftist media going after Palin you just might not see the result you expect there Chap.
Could have the effect of the majority of the country seeing the left into a small group of very narrow minded spiteful hateful folks.
The Palin bashing is quite over the top.
Could backfire on those on the left thinking she’d be a boost for the left.
“I agree on with many of the people here.”
Just a small point of clarification though. “Many” of us indicated we did not want to see Palin at the Presidential candidate. Most of us think while she’s a great person and glad to have her on our side, would rather not see her run for President.
I’m off Bachman due to the little stunt last week of sponsoring the Tea Party Caucus. Whatever support they had with Independents and Dems is gone. And, I knew many.
I really do admire Palin, but so many absolutely detest the ground she walks on. Romney, no. Newt, no. Huck, hell no. Paul Ryan, VP perhaps. Demint, I’d love him to run but he’s got way too much common sense for the average voter. I’m very impressed with both Cain and Col. West. It’s almost certain to be a male/female combination to thwart Hillary and her obsession to hold the office.
The GOP is still trying to put a new face on old ideas. They are stuck in the Reps vs the Dems. For too long both houses have gone to DC to look busy; pass anything just to look like something is being done. Sometimes the correct answer is to do nothing. Leave things alone. Resist the temptation to do something, especially if that thing is wrong. I don’t know how anyone can do the right thing without reading what that thing is and get it right. DC has a disgusting group of individuals, all pointing the finger at one another in an effort to assign blame. They are collectively responsible for what has happened and they need to accept this fact. Many need to resign because they screwed up big time. Instead they look down their noses at all the little people who would dare to hold them accountable for the mistakes that they in fact made. No one forced this group to make these mistakes. Their own selfish, arrogant pride allowed them to spend more time honing deceptive skills than expanding honesty, integrity and serving the voters. Until they face up to this, DC will not change. We will have to take each election seriously because it may take a decade or more to eradicate all the progressives and their freedom crushing ideas.
“Flyoverman, I consider it an honor to be the lightnening rod to the RINOs who simply cannot make their case and so resort to attacking the messenger.”
Now there’s a load of crap. Phil is a victim now but wears the badge with honor? Oh geez….
Speaking of not making their case I’ll go look Phil to see if you ever listed the reasons for voting for JD Heyworth to see how you did in making yours.
We could argue about the definition of “many”, but that would be pointless. I will amend to “several” if that will sate you.
I would enjoy seeing a poll of MM commenters, though, on the issue of who they would prefer.
Nope Phil, don’t see you making any case what-so-ever for your view. Sorta hypocritical hey?
I predict even Mickey Mouse could defeat Obama in 2012.
Indeed and to cite 1980 again, what the Dems have to be worried about is a challenge to a weak and wounded Obama, ala Ted Kennedy v. Carter. Looking around the lefty sites, the natives are getting restless and such rumblings & grumblings are becoming more common.
And that’s even excluding the possibility, if the Republicans take the House, of hearings and investigations of the myriad Obama-related scandals. With some digging and subpoena power things could get interesting.
I predict that this type of thinking will be entirely advantageous to us liberals in 2012.
I will amend to “several”….
“Few” seems to fit. Really, look at the post. Maybe one or two that endorses her. Most of us take issue with some of her stands, who she supports, etc., and prefer to at least attempt to get someone who is more consistently conservative. A criticism that as a theme also can be directed at Romney, Huckabee, etc.
At the end of the day will we have a candidate that is the conservative’s conservative? Probably not. Will have to act like an adult and realize we are talking politics and will have to support someone who isn’t our ideal.
But at this stage of the game? Seems to me this is the time to start talking up folks who have shown to be consistently conservative.
Like Jim DeMint, Tom Coburn, Michele Bachman, etc.