Stop the special-interest, speech-squelching DISCLOSE Act; Collins, Graham oppose, Snowe is a no; McConnell blasts Dem attempt to “rig fall elections;” Update: DISCLOSE Act fails on 57-41 cloture vote

By Michelle Malkin  •  July 27, 2010 11:38 AM

The union-friendly, loophole-ridden, Orwellian-titled DISCLOSE Act comes up for a cloture vote in the Senate this afternoon. It appears doomed. But take nothing for granted.

It passed the House in June.

This is a relief: Squishy GOP Sen. Susan Collins announced she’s a no vote:

The legislation exempts some politically powerful, large membership groups like the NRA and the AARP, a move that Collins’ spokesman blasted, on behalf of the senator.

“Senator Collins also believes that it is ironic that a bill aimed at curtailing special interests in the election process provides so many carve outs and exemptions that favor some grassroots organizations over others. This too is simply unfair,” Kelly said.

Yesterday, Prince of Transparency-Underming Darkness Barack Obama had the chutzpah to complain about “shadow” groups holding sway over politics (video here).

Snort. Take your disclosure-evading complaints about Astroturfing to David Axelrod, Mr. President.

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Background on DISCLOSE Act’s First Amendment assault here.

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Update: The Hill’s Michael O’Brien reports via Twitter that squishy GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham will also oppose the bill.

Update: Snowe is a no, too. Lieberman is going to miss the vote, via Ed Morrissey.

Looks dead. For now.

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Update 2:51pm – McConnell on Senate floor now blasting DISCLOSE as “transparent attempt to rig fall elections.” Written “behind closed doors” with help from lobbyists. “Unions don’t need carve-outs, because they got exemptions.”

“Unions are the ultimate victors under this bill.”

Mocks carve-outs for AARP, NRA, and other large non-profits.

There’s no asterisk by 1st Amendment only protecting favored special-interest speech, McConnell continues.

Great closing line from McConnell invoking Founding Fathers and fundamental duty of lawmakers: “We’re here to protect the Constitution, not our own hides.”

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Update 3:55pm Eastern Cloture vote falls short, DISCLOSE Act fails 57-41.

Schumer won’t let go:

Sen. Charles Schumer, the sponsor of the stalled campaign finance bill, promised Tuesday that Democrats would hold round-after-round of votes on it until it passes.

Schumer (D-N.Y.) spoke to reporters following the weekly caucus luncheons, slamming Republicans for holding up the response to the Citizens United Supreme Court case, which allowed unlimited political spending by corporations and unions.

“And we will go back at this bill again and again and again until we pass it,” he said. “It’s that vital, not to Democrats, not to Republicans, but to the future of people’s faith in the functioning of this government.”

Actually, the failure of this bogus bill went a long way toward restoring faith in the functiong of this government.

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  1. #1
    On July 27th, 2010 at 11:49 am, tarpon said:

    So wouldn’t you say this would cut the head off any competitor to an incumbent? What’s wrong with that — LOL.

    Isn’t that how we got the congressional clunkers we got? Free speech hangs by a thread, and after Kagan, then what do we do.

  2. #2
    On July 27th, 2010 at 11:51 am, walterc said:

    When did Susan Collins become a Republican?

  3. #3
    On July 27th, 2010 at 11:51 am, letget said:

    I will believe that lindsey and the Maine gals vote no when the vote is done.
    L

  4. #4
    On July 27th, 2010 at 11:56 am, Ragspierre said:

    How’s McAnus voting….???

    I mean, this ELECTION year…!?!?!

  5. #5
    On July 27th, 2010 at 11:59 am, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Too many Squishies not enough Statesmen!

  6. #6
    On July 27th, 2010 at 12:10 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 11:56 am, Ragspierre said:
    How’s McAnus voting….???

    Rags, I am not McCain fan, but I do not believe he would EVER vote for this piece of dirt under any circumstances. The DISCLOSE Act is a really, really horrid piece of legislation.

    My lemming Congressman voted for this and I wrote probably the strongest condemnation of anyone to him that I have ever written.

  7. #7
    On July 27th, 2010 at 12:19 pm, twiggman said:

    Ragspierre….I love that…McAnus….I will use that in the future…..

  8. #8
    On July 27th, 2010 at 12:20 pm, rocketman said:

    ***
    Maybe this POS bill could be rammed through at 0030 hours on the Labor Day weekend. It worked for ObamaCare. It’s really hard to kill these vampire bills.
    ***
    John Bibb
    ***

  9. #9
    On July 27th, 2010 at 12:20 pm, RTater said:

    Rags, I am not McCain fan, but I do not believe he would EVER vote for this piece of dirt under any circumstances. The DISCLOSE Act is a really, really horrid piece of legislation.

    As opposed to the McCain-Feingold Act?

  10. #10
    On July 27th, 2010 at 12:51 pm, RogersUmp said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 12:20 pm, rocketman said:
    It’s really hard to kill these vampire bills.

    ‘Vampire Bills’ – perfect description!!

  11. #11
    On July 27th, 2010 at 12:57 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 11:51 am, letget said:
    I will believe that lindsey and the Maine gals vote no when the vote is done.

    I’m just wondering what exactly it is that they are holding out for from the administration.

  12. #12
    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:04 pm, singlemalt_18 said:

    If you don’t have the Collins and Graham vote, it must be bad.

    This too is simply unfair,” Kelly said.

    All in the interest of fairness no less… we continue to live in an alternative Orwellian universe.

  13. #13
    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:05 pm, Flyoverman said:

    As opposed to the McCain-Feingold Act?

    There is a differnce between stupidity and evil.

  14. #14
    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:08 pm, NC BLUE said:

    Graham is against it until Kagan gives him a hug and a kiss for his support.

  15. #15
    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:16 pm, letget said:

    I just read on HA that Lieberman won’t be there to vote, he will be at a funeral. It seems that if this holds, there are not enough votes to pass this. One can only hope!
    L

  16. #16
    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:31 pm, Hangfire said:

    I know that here in the People’s Republic of Hawaii, our two representatives will cancel each other’s vote.

    That’ sooooo much better than a few months ago, when it would have gone two FOR votes.

  17. #17
    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:32 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Barack Obama had the chutzpah to complain about “shadow” groups holding sway over politics

    He doesn’t mean the New Black Panthers and JouroListers, he means Tea Partiers, Church-goers, Veterans, the Elks….

  18. #18
    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:32 pm, Hangfire said:

    As for the Senate, both Senators in Hawaii are Democrat octogenarians Bolsheviks, and their vote will be FOR.

  19. #19
    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:33 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Oops, “JournoListers”….I hate this keboard…keyboard….

  20. #20
    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, Wethal said:

    Twitter feeds now saying Snowe is a NO.

    Brown said he was a NO back on 7/14/10 in a Boston Herald story.

  21. #21
    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:50 pm, babiesgrandma said:

    Barack Obama had the chutzpah to complain about “shadow” groups holding sway over politics

    Yeah, wouldn’t want George Soros messing up any legislation and votes, would we. . .

  22. #22
    On July 27th, 2010 at 2:01 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:36 pm, Wethal said:
    Brown said he was a NO back on 7/14/10 in a Boston Herald story.

    Wait, maybe they’ll amend it for him.

  23. #23
    On July 27th, 2010 at 2:15 pm, Hangfire said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:32 pm, AlohaGuy said:He doesn’t mean the New Black Panthers and JouroListers, he means Tea Partiers, Church-goers, Veterans, the Elks….

    Apparently any group not under the ACORN or NAACP or NBBP umbrella is a “shadow” group.

  24. #24
    On July 27th, 2010 at 2:16 pm, Hangfire said:

    OOPs, NBPP vice NBBP above.

  25. #25
    On July 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm, stillontheroad said:

    “Barack Obama had the chutzpah to complain about “shadow” groups holding sway over politics.”
    You would think that the Tax Paying, working people of America would receive a little more respect than being called a shadow group. Barry? Oh Barry? Can you take a permanent hiatus to Kenya,please, or better yet to Zimbabwe. You are taking a page right out of the Mugabe playbook there Zippy.

  26. #26
    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:00 pm, Roland said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 1:05 pm, Flyoverman said:
    As opposed to the McCain-Feingold Act?
    There is a differnce between stupidity and evil.

    Stupidity in a voter may or may not be evil, but regularly recurring wilfill stupidity on the part of someone who has fought to gain power over us for many years is just plain evil.

    I am beyond astounded the Republican voters in Arizona still don’t get it.

  27. #27
    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:00 pm, DamnCat said:

    You can always count on RINOs to stand up against Constitutional abuses – provided those abuses might negatively impact their reelection.

  28. #28
    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:04 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    “transparent attempt to rig fall elections.”

    What else do they have? I’m not condoning this naked attempt to do what Democrats do best (trample all over the Constitution …what’s that?), but really, what else do they have?
    They are cornered and they know it.

  29. #29
    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:11 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Update 2:51pm –

    Update McConnell blasts Dem attempt to “rig fall elections”

    McConnell on Senate floor now blasting DISCLOSE as “transparent attempt to rig fall elections.” Written “behind closed doors” with help from lobbyists. “Unions don’t need carve-outs, because they got exemptions.”

    1) The resulting bill is a transparent attempt to rig fall elections, but the process used to write the bill, behind closed doors with help from lobbyists, is anything but transparent. It is a shining example of how massively Obama lied when he promised to keep lobbyists out and

    committed to making his administration the most open and transparent in history

    2) The “Stimulus” bill was also an attempt to rig fall elections.
    Taxpayer money will be funnelled to Democratic candidates via organizations that receive it from the government.

  30. #30
    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:20 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:00 pm, Roland said:

    Stupidity in a voter may or may not be evil, but regularly recurring wilfill stupidity on the part of someone who has fought to gain power over us for many years is just plain evil.

    I am beyond astounded the Republican voters in Arizona still don’t get it.

    How each politician gets re-elected is as varied as can be. Take for example my GOP Senator. He’s been in office well over 20 years. Is he the sharpest tool in the shed? Nope. Has he done stupid things? Yep. Reached across the aisle to my fury. NO DOUBT!

    However, like the old Adam and Eve joke (Adam do you love me?) while he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed, he’s been the sharpest tool available for me to pick.

    Who has run against McCain in past years? Hayworth has been a HUGE disappointment. Point is that voters may be stupid, but they can also be pragmatic. Just because we don’t like thier rep does not make them stupid.

    If you want the classic example look at our two choices for Governor this year in Iowa. Dumb and dumber.

  31. #31
    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:33 pm, martin.musculus said:

    Yes, Ladies & Gentleman: we have The Word from those GOP-Squishes that they are “no” votes…

    But, tell me, do: how any times has a GOP-squish, eg That Brown Mess from Mass: Sen. Scott Brown, Ol’-limp-pea-a “Yellow” Snowe, “Gimme Anutha Wallbanger” Collins, “Miz Minnie Pearl” Lindsey Gramnesty, and their clones swore they would vote down a Liberty-stealing piece of work and switched later?
    (NB: “Senator Snowe (R) says she’s a no on the Disclose Act calling the bill “premature”" is what the twit said. Note the use of the word “premature” which is simply meant to signal they haven’t offered enough for her vote yet…)

    These people are masters of “bait & switch”!

    A serious question:
    Why do you continue to believe them? Every Conserv seems to hang on these traitors professed votes, and I watch the tone of comments gets more cheerful when they lie say they are going to do right and defend the Constitution — with the inevitable drop-off when they vote opposite of their promise. After 100 or 150 times you’d think that a more “let us see if they follow through” mode of thought would present.

    Or an even more productive viewpoint:
    “You guys had A LOT of opportunities to keep you Oath, but your fruits show that The Keeping was a rare thing. we no longer require your services, and we are going to work with all we have to replace you. When we do, we will institute a tax: everyone who made or interpreted laws that obvious crushed our economy will be assessed the cost of those laws, and their retirement and living garnisheed until every farthing is repaid and the American People are made whole. This includes interference with or the encouragement to bypass laws involved with illegal entry into this country. In addition, you will PERSONALLY house and provide for 10% of those who took said encouragement seriously and committed the illegal entry until such time as they can be repatriated.
    NOW GO HOME AND STAY OUT OF PUBLIC BUSINESS.”

    Sorry, back to my question:

    Is it that you can’t bring yourselves to believe these are men whose only thought is their own aggrandizement and accretion of power, or wishful thinking b/c the cumulative results of these clowns works are too horrific to contemplate, or a naive belief in the essential good of mankind?

    I no longer believe anything these people claim, even until 6 days after they “show the body” — I’d still have to touch it myself.

    What have I done, besides moaning about the current state of Our Country?
    I have liquidated all my life savings and everything else to (through family, friends, and other various diverse ways) spread those monies to people who love our Constitution and have the fruits of that love to prove it.

    But I will tell you: there is a reason that the Progressives have filled the Sec. positions in almost all the States with their thugs: “…it isn’t who the people vote for that matters, it is who counts the ballots.”

    I am old… and tired. More than nine decades to see THIS! I have become ashamed of these people! Ashamed!

    We have failed of our legacy. We are passing nothing but ashes to our posterity.

  32. #32
    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:34 pm, Roland said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:20 pm, Flyoverman said:

    My point was that McCain is not stupid. McCain-Feingold really is the way he thinks. It accurately represents his values.

    The only reason for a conservative to ever consider voting for McCain is when the last man standing against him is a Democrat.

    Voting for McCain now is like jumping out of a jet without a parachute because you think it might crash.

  33. #33
    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:35 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    The reason McCain keeps getting re-elected is because “you can fool some of the people all of the time“.

    Arizona is being over-run by illegals and the crime associated thanks to McCain, Kyl, Napolitano, Bush, and other Assistant Democrats. Yet it’s always the right thing to vote for them.

    See McCain on the ballot? Vote for the other guy! Stop thinking! Just do it!

  34. #34
    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:37 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 12:10 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I’m afraid you couldn’t be more wrong. This bill is intended to restore McCain-Feingold.

  35. #35
    On July 27th, 2010 at 3:38 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Curly: “Hey Moe! I was just thinking…”

    Moe: “Well don’t! Every time you think, you weaken the nation!”

  36. #36
    On July 27th, 2010 at 4:25 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I’m afraid you couldn’t be more wrong. This bill is intended to restore McCain-Feingold.

    If McCain-Feingold was a firecracker, this thing is a 500 pound bomb.

    I stand by my remarks, based on the contents of the bill.

  37. #37
    On July 27th, 2010 at 4:27 pm, American Elephant said:

    Yes, Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe are wrong on many issues, and side with Democrats far too often, but they have been on the right side against much of the corrupt Democrat agenda, and YES we need to thank them for it! Loudly and repeatedly!. Who knows, they may discover that they like being praised by conservatives and start agreeing with us more often….after all, you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar as they say!

  38. #38
    On July 27th, 2010 at 4:30 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 4:27 pm, American Elephant said:

    If you’re intellectually honest what you wrote is exactly what you should do.

  39. #39
    On July 27th, 2010 at 4:36 pm, martin.musculus said:

    Hey! Found this a few days ago. How many of these things apply to our country?

    1. It often turned out that their leaders rose to power by murdering their former friends and associates.

    2. The leaders made flattering promises to any who would join in the subversive conspiracy which was designed to use criminal tactics in acquiring wealth and then seizing control of the government.

    3. They did not come out in the open and allow the people to know of their intentions or tactics, but operated as an illegal, underground apparatus.

    4. They had their own secret code of discipline and their own secret police to bring in dissenters or defectors for punishment. The penalty for revealing their secrets was death.

    5. They demanded all their “rights” under the Constitution until they came into power, then they destroyed the liberties of the people and claimed “rights” exclusively for themselves.

    6. As soon as they came into power they discharged those who occupied key positions and appointed their own hard-core members to all positions of trust.

    7. All who tried to defend the Constitution and preserve traditional order and justice were prosecuted as though they were the offenders.

    8. However, the leaders ignored or deliberately covered up the crimes of their own members.

    9. They created a privileged, bureaucratic class of criminal aristocrats to govern the people.

    10. They radically altered the provisions of the law so they could claim to be operating “legally.”

    11. They employed propaganda to obscure the weaknesses of their own administration and used the voice of prominent people to spread their propaganda line.

    12. They waged continuous ideological warfare to break down the moral and political independence of the people. As part of this campaign they killed the religious leaders.

    13. Then they turned the whole society toward moral debauchery similar to their own profligate lives.

    14. They tried to replace revealed religion by encouraging the people to practice primitive, heathen rites with emphasis on the collection of gold and silver to contribute to their idolatrous priestcraft.

    15. They would not tolerate any kind of resistance or public discussion of the issues. They called their own kind of criminal dictatorship the only “good” government and demanded that every citizen support them or be exterminated.

    16. In attacking the legitimate government and seeking to overthrow it, they claimed they were waging war to recover “their” rights and restore “their” government which had been wrongfully taken away from them.

    17. They used Communist-type peace propaganda, claiming they did not want war, they merely wanted their opposition to accept the inevitable and surrender “peacefully.”

    18. They promised that if the opposition would surrender, its people would not be placed in slavery but would become partners and brethren in the great new order. They neglected to mention that under their police state all their partners and brethren were subject to the most rigorous death-penalty oaths, and were therefore under a system of criminal slavery.

    I’ve bold-ed the ones I can find evidence for.

  40. #40
    On July 27th, 2010 at 4:39 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Sen. Charles Schumer, the sponsor of the stalled campaign finance bill, promised Tuesday that Democrats would hold round-after-round of votes on it until it passes.

    Which should cement in your mind why we call him Chucky.

    Why win an election when you can rig it, right Chuck? Better hurry the countdown clock is ticking.

  41. #41
    On July 27th, 2010 at 4:51 pm, Hangfire said:

    I can breathe now, but this vote was waaaaaayy too close to be believed.

    What are these bastards smoking?

  42. #42
    On July 27th, 2010 at 5:19 pm, William Amos said:

    Disclose 2: the Bribe Wars.

    How many billions in tax dollars in earmarks will this cost us taxpayers to get this passed the next time ?

  43. #43
    On July 27th, 2010 at 5:22 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Great closing line from McConnell invoking Founding Fathers and fundamental duty of lawmakers: “We’re here to protect the Constitution, not our own hides.”

    That’s great, but how about supporting and defending Section 3 of the 20th Amendment and performing your Constitutional duty to qualify the President and Vice-President?

    Have any of them asked to see the initial long-form birth certificates for Obama and Biden?

    Why NOT?!?

  44. #44
    On July 27th, 2010 at 5:46 pm, RedDog said:

    Actually, the failure of this bogus bill went a long way toward restoring faith in the functiong of this government.

    Actually what will go a long way toward restoring faith in the functiong of this government is to publish a list of the 3 top criminal investigations that will be initiated by Republicans in 2011.

    Several members of Congress need to prepare for Federal prison. So many targets of opportunity, so little time.

  45. #45
    On July 27th, 2010 at 5:54 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 4:25 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I’m afraid you couldn’t be more wrong. This bill is intended to restore McCain-Feingold.

    If McCain-Feingold was a firecracker, this thing is a 500 pound bomb.

    I stand by my remarks, based on the contents of the bill.

    Stand anywhere that pleases you, but your assumption that McCain wouldn’t support anything under the name of “campaign finance reform” in other than an election year is, I’m afraid, naive.

  46. #46
    On July 27th, 2010 at 5:56 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 5:46 pm, RedDog said:

    If you’re expecting a vengeful Republican congress to take charge in January and actually go after any of these corrupticians, you’re in for a sad surprise.

  47. #47
    On July 27th, 2010 at 6:11 pm, Truesoldier said:

    Sen. Charles Schumer, the sponsor of the stalled campaign finance bill, promised Tuesday that Democrats would hold round-after-round of votes on it until it passes.

    Gee, seems like Chucky needs a timeout till he stops throwing his temper tantrum.

  48. #48
    On July 27th, 2010 at 6:32 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    If you’re expecting a vengeful Republican congress to take charge in January and actually go after any of these corrupticians, you’re in for a sad surprise.

    Well, I’d be absoluletly surprised if the GOP DID go after them. I’m sure some Republicans will be eager to do so, but sadly, they’ll be taken behind closed doors and lectured sternly about how DC “really works” and otherwise given lip service or ignored.

    ALL the elitists in party leadership must be kicked out and replaced before the GOP will go after anything or anyone.

  49. #49
    On July 27th, 2010 at 6:32 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Stand anywhere that pleases you, but your assumption that McCain wouldn’t support anything under the name of “campaign finance reform” in other than an election year is, I’m afraid, naive.

    Read the bill. Why do you think three people to the left of McCain had ZERO trouble killing this?

    If you are GOP and support his bill you are confirmed to be suicidal. It’s one thing to whack yourself with a board; it’s another to pour gasoline on yourself and strike a match.

  50. #50
    On July 27th, 2010 at 6:46 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 6:32 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Read the bill.

    You should be talking to Congress. They don’t read the bills, which is why McCain would have no trouble supporting it under “campaign finance reform”.

    If you are GOP and support his bill you are confirmed to be suicidal.

    I assume you meant “this” bill. Of course they won’t, and he won’t, during an election year. Just as with “immigration reform”, they won’t touch it until they’re safely re-elected.

  51. #51
    On July 27th, 2010 at 7:19 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    Chuck U Schumer makes it real easy: if he’s for something, I’m against it. If he’s against something, I’m for it. I don’t have to go any further than that and I’ll be right 100% of the time.

  52. #52
    On July 27th, 2010 at 7:24 pm, Bruce said:

    Schumer is acting the way all NY politicians do. They – especially the Dems – will hold their breath, stamp their little feet, and yell “Obstruction!” Then they will turn right around and submit the exact same bill again, and again, and again, until the other corruptocrats throw their hands in the air and say “Okay – you win – now shut up!”

    It’s going on right now in the NY leg with majority leader Schneiderman (running for Att Gen) has submitted a bill to prohibit ALL semi-auto handguns unless they use the micro-stamping technology. Problem is, NONE of the currently available semis use it, because it doesn’t work! And he knows it, thus creating a backdoor (typically sneaky Dem trick) to complete ban on semi-auto handguns.

  53. #53
    On July 27th, 2010 at 7:26 pm, Bruce said:

    As an aside, I was so outraged by the NRA wheeling and dealing on DISCLOSE so as not to lose their entitlement at the expense of my 1st Amendment rights I resigned from the organization and sent my membership card back in pieces. They don’t do a damned thing except for hunters anyway.

  54. #54
    On July 27th, 2010 at 8:19 pm, txvet2 said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 7:26 pm, Bruce said:

    I’ve never been that big in the NRA anyway. Way, way back, when I was a kid, they used to sponsor gun safety classes, which was a really worthwhile activity. But as far as their politics are concerned, my father was a lifelong member and he was a yellow dog Democrat.

  55. #55
    On July 27th, 2010 at 10:38 pm, Dimsdale said:

    Sen. Charles Schumer, the sponsor of the stalled campaign finance bill, promised Tuesday that Democrats would hold round-after-round of votes on it until it passes.

    And yet, they have no time to pass a budget.

  56. #56
    On July 27th, 2010 at 10:49 pm, Flyoverman said:

    And yet, they have no time to pass a budget.

    That will come up on November 4th.

  57. #57
    On July 27th, 2010 at 11:22 pm, rightisright said:

    Several members of Congress need to prepare for Federal prison. So many targets of opportunity, so little time.

    we can still dream can we not?

    The reason I say dream is: “Well, I’d be absolutely surprised if the GOP DID go after them. I’m sure some Republicans will be eager to do so, but sadly, they’ll be taken behind closed doors and lectured sternly about how DC “really works” and otherwise given lip service or ignored. ” That’s reality of it, that’s real change we can hope for.

  58. #58
    On July 28th, 2010 at 1:31 am, Dasher said:

    DISCLOSE = Democracy is Strengthened by Casting Light on Spending in Elections Act

    Measure Title: A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to prohibit foreign influence in Federal elections, to prohibit government contractors from making expenditures with respect to such elections, and to establish additional disclosure requirements with respect to spending in such elections, and for other purposes.

    Of course none of the restrictions on businesses in this piece of cr@p legislation applies to unions.

    Why can’t government contractors have free speech?

    Schumer is the most distasteful Senator in Congress. I literally wretch at seeing his mug let alone his voice.

  59. #59
    On July 28th, 2010 at 1:39 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Libtards will do anything to hold onto power. Has anyone seen this?

    Mass. Legislature approves plan to bypass Electoral College

    Sneaky, underhanded, unbelievable. No, actually, I do believe it.

    The liberal motto: By Any Means Necessary.

  60. #60
    On July 28th, 2010 at 2:58 am, plymouthacclaim said:

    On July 27th, 2010 at 7:26 pm, Bruce said:

    I don’t hunt and I’m a proud NRA member. I’m curious, which NRA magazine did you choose to receive with your membership?

    I don’t get it. Then NRA is a 2nd Amendment org, not a 1st Amendment org. If you want a vigorous defense of the 1st, then give to a group that focuses exclusively on that. The NRA is a single issue organization. Any other issue in which they get involved is only to the extent to which that issue impacts gun rights or the NRA itself. Go donate to the Center for Responsive Politics or another group for First Amendment fights.

    At first, I opposed the NRA’s “carveout” thinking that they should have fought harder for everyone. However, the more I thought about it, I realized that while their resources are great, they are not infinite. I sincerely hope you will read my post documenting my position and how and why it changed.

    Whatever you do, leaving the NRA over this issue is not a good idea.

    The NRA is the largest and most effective organization defending our second amendment. Leaving because of one or even many disagreements is not a good idea (unless you no longer agree with the right to keep and bear arms). I don’t agree 100% with anyone, even my wife, who I love beyond words. If you believe in our right to keep and bear arms, join the NRA. If you want to join other “purer” groups as well, then do that too. I believe that we need all of our organizations. They help each other (even if they don’t admit it) though they could do a better job at cooperative effort.

  61. #61
    On July 28th, 2010 at 9:30 am, Roland said:

    Any other issue in which they get involved is only to the extent to which that issue impacts gun rights or the NRA itself.

    Sorry, but that shows a fundamental misunderstanding of our natural rights. The right to bear arms can not and will not be able to stand alone.

    So the NRA gets their exception carved out today. What do you think will happen to that exception tomorrow??

    Like with McCain, this is beyond stupid, and it shows the NRA leadership does not actually understand or appreciate the Constitution.

  62. #62
    On July 28th, 2010 at 12:07 pm, jrgdds said:

    Graham, Collins, Brown, and Snowe vote NO and DISCLOSE gets defeated. 57-41.

    High five for the RINOS!

  63. #63
    On July 28th, 2010 at 1:46 pm, plymouthacclaim said:

    On July 28th, 2010 at 9:30 am, Roland said:
    Sorry, but that shows a fundamental misunderstanding of our natural rights. The right to bear arms can not and will not be able to stand alone.

    It does not stand alone. There are plenty of organizations that defend the first amendment. Some organizationslike the ACLJ are generalists, focusing on many areas. Others, like the NRA focus on one area. They are specialists.
    You don’t go to a podiatrist to get your teeth cleaned.

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