Bill Press Keeps Ground Zero Mosque Debate in Proper Perspective
**Written by Doug Powers
Bill Press: “Sometimes you have to stand up and say, this is wrong — the wrong place… It’s a slap to the American people… There are some places where cheap political tricks should not be allowed.”
Oh wait, that’s not Bill Press talking about the Ground Zero mosque — the above is what Press said about Glenn Beck’s rally at the Lincoln Memorial. Here’s what Press said about the Ground Zero mosque:
“Let me tell you something, first of all, we’re not talking ground zero, we’re talking two blocks from ground zero, there are apartment buildings there, there’s a catholic church there, a pizza parlor there. there are hotels there. There might even be a porn shop there. This is not a sacred site, this is all about religion and the opponents, there’s only one reason to oppose this mosque, and that is to paint Islam as an evil religion and to paint all Muslims and equate them with a 19 terrorist who’s flew into that building. it is wrong. it is un-American and the people against it ought to be ashamed of playing a cheap political trick.”
Condemning an entire group of people for the actions of a few is wrong. Got that?
Okay, with that bit of wisdom in mind, let’s go back to a Tea Party/Glenn Beck rally at the Lincoln Memorial. Press went a step further:
“In a slap at both President Lincoln and Dr. King, not to mention the American people, the National Park Service has given Glenn Beck permission to hold a Tea Party rally on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on August 28 – 47 years to the day after Martin Luther King gave his magnificent ‘I Have A Dream’ speech”… If you ask me, that’s like granting al Qaeda permission to hold a rally on September 11 – at Ground Zero.”
Tea Partiers are like Al Qaeda even though the only thing the Tea Party has in common with 9/11 is that it’s trying to prevent another one. In this case, Press is not condemning an entire group of people for the actions of a few, but rather demonizing an entire group of people for the actions of none of them.
The Tea Party is comparable to the Islamic terrorists who murdered thousands on 9/11, but it’s un-American to criticize a mosque near Ground Zero because to do so is to blame an entire group for the actions of a few? This is hilariously misguided and insane even for Bill Press.
Press has also adopted an angle that’s being parroted by others in the media: We shouldn’t be having a moral freakout over a mosque when there are strip clubs, an adult/lingerie store and an off-track betting parlor also nearby.
That would be a logical rebuttal to Ground Zero mosque critics, provided the Twin Towers had been taken down by six pole dancers, three pairs of edible underwear and a bookie.
**Written by Doug Powers
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What if the underwear is hummis flavored?
Wow, there’s a surprise. /sarc off.
You’d think that someone could come up with a thought of their own and run with it. Press is a typical libtard. Idiot.
Just to inform bill. The Glenn Beck rally is not a TP rally! The Glenn rally will not have any political person speaking! Sarah will be there, but as a mom that had a son in the military. As for Dr. King, his niece will be speaking at the rally. FYI bill you are an idiot, period.
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The Libtards and their foaming at the mouth lap dog press are in a total panic and in melt down mode. Associating the Tea party with al Qaeda is just the latest maifestation of Progressive Democrat insanity.
These days, democrats are double bagging.
A “religion” should not be judged by the actions of a “few” of its adherents. A “religion” should first be judged by the actions of it’s “prophet” and his supposed example of a perfect life.
Based on this judgment I cannot believe in the myth of a moderate muslim.
Doug, is this a direct quote of how this person speaks?
Evidently Press is not at imminent risk of becoming unemployed, unlike Harry Reid.
Yes…Harry.Reid…:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100817/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_ground_zero_mosque_reid
The muslims can build a mosque when I don’t have to be strip-searched at an airport anymore.
Bill who…???
Direct question to you Bill Press, are there or are there not 2 Mosques in that general area right now and if so, why a third? And why there?
If you have a moment, read some of the comment popsted at the site of the news story I linked to above.
Scary, arrogant fools.
And.they.can.vote – that’s scary…squared.
Not gonna happen. Remember, they are organized as an interconnected collective, the decisions of which are made by a hive mind, linked to subspace domain. Once the talking points go out – they all run with it.
They are BORG. Resistance is futile for weak minded liberal/progressives.
I saw some guy on one of the far-left news cable channels ruminating on how no one can say that the mosque can be allowed from a legal/Constitutional point of view but argue that, morally, it is the wrong thing to do. You either support the mosque being built where they plan to build it, or you don’t. Get it? Got it? Good!
That’s like saying that I either agree with the Westboro Baptist Church’s message as well as their Constitutional right to protest, or I am against them and want them to be legally shut down. I abhor them. But the First Amendment is the First Amendment. We can’t stop them from doing what they are doing, but that does not mean we have to right to counter-protest or try to persuade them that what they are doing is morally wrong whatever the law says about it.
Bill Press sez: “…there are apartment buildings there, there’s a catholic church there, a pizza parlor there. there are hotels there. There might even be a porn shop there.”
Hey, Bill,
We weren’t attacked by apartment buildings…..or a catholic church….or a pizza parlor….or by a hotel.
And we weren’t attacked by a porn shop, either.
What really ticks me is the fact the he (and others) KNOW that no one is saying: “Don’t build a mosque, period!”
We’re saying: “Don’t build it at that location!”
Ah, from The Court Jester.
Excellent!!
Tea Partiers are like Al Qaeda even though the only thing the Tea Party has in common with 9/11 is that it’s trying to prevent another one. In this case, Press is not condemning an entire group of people for the actions of a few, but rather demonizing an entire group of people for the actions of none of them.
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Andrew Breitbart still has not had to pay out the reward he offered for actual proof that members of Congress had racist and anti-gay epithets shouted at them or were spat upon by Tea Partiers on the day they went in to vote on Obamacare, has he?
I’m not holding my breath.
Poor Pelosi was able to work herself up to tears over what she “feared” Tea Partiers MIGHT do, but not for the actual violence and threats perpetrated on her own side of the aisle.
Once our nation, as a whole, realizes that islam is at war with us and the rest of modern, Western civilization; and acts accordingly, as in fighting a war;
then, “Don’t build a mosque, period!” will not only be said, it will be shouted.
Before we even get to the question of why they want to build there, can we please get someone to examine whether they actually followed the rules to be allowed to build there? As I understand it, they lied to the authorities and don’t own the whole property, and don’t have the money to build without violating property laws about foreign money. Can those issues be clarified so we know if they actually have a right to even consider the project in the first place?
Or is this whole project just a “mischief making” against the “unbelievers”, and a deliberate provocation – on the eve of the Anniversary of the attacks?
That’s why they call him “Bill Press one for English”!
Hmmm. “the pellet with the poison is in the mug with the mosque.”
Good one!!
The fact that many keep dancing around is that a “Moderate Muslim” is a “Bad Muslim”, because in order to be a “Moderate Muslim” you must ignore most of the Quran and the fact that the “Prophet” was a misogynistic child abuser who probably had been in the sun too long on more than one occasion.
If this mosque is so harmless and unifying, why plan the grand opening on 9/11/11?
How stupid does one have to be to not see this for what it is?
Since the Vietnam War and perhaps before that the Left, the Progressives, have always viewed us as their principle enemy. They have hated us nmore than the VC, the NVA, the Sandanistas, Castro, Saddam Hussein, China, the Soviet Union, etc.
The enemy of their enemy is their friend. They don’t give a rat’s single point of contact that we happen to be Americans. We are the enemy and anything that hurts us, weakens us, or even kills us, they support.
Power means that much to them. It’s that stark and that simple.
One can hardly expect consistent reasoning from a progressive leftist.
First of all…no, it is not a Tea Party rally. Glenn has told everyone to leave their signs home. This is about restoring honor and patriotism to our Country. I guess that explains why this fool and the other left-wing morons still don’t get it. Honor and patriotism are concepts they don’t grasp and never will.
I expect that there will be millions there on 8/28. With that be reported? Not likely. I hope Glenn has helicopters up there to document the massive turnout. And that the internet will be plastered with pictures. That seems to be the only way to get the word out.
The mosque…a nice way to divert the American conversation away from all of Obama’s vacations, and the disaster of our economy. There are hundreds of mosques in NY. This one will never be built. Count on it. There will be so many obstacles and roadblocks put in the way. Seriously, this is an attempt at diversion. Obama did not make his statements without a reason. He is not that dumb.
Not in my neck of the woods…transparency is the new game…same as the old game.
Ahhhh, let me see!!! Was it the CATHOLICS that ran airplanes into the TWIN TOWERS??? How about ITALIANS??? Maybe the people who PEDDLE PORN??? I think it was none of these… I believe they were all members of “THE RELIGION OF PEACE”… Now will come the retort,”NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS”… Agree… However, so far, all TERRORISTS have been MUSLIM!!!
I think you got me on that one Hawkeye. Tough one to refute.
Hat tip!
Exactly! There is a colossal cover-up going on here. From the date of the “grand opening” to the background of the imam, to the trip he is taking on the taxpayer’s dime. What treason is the MSM committing now? More covering for the enemy. May they all rot.
http://hindenblog1.blogspot.com/2010/08/humanity-remembering-fdrs-historic.html
As I note in that piece, we had no trouble understanding a martial cult of death based on religion in WWII. We beat it, too.
Funny so many “brights” today can’t seem to get what the average American conceived quite clearly back then.
Hmmm…. Wonder how that happened…???
He does have a point. It is a long way away; 1320 feet, 440 yards, 220 paces. It is roughly the distance away that John Daley hits his driver with a cigarette in his mouth and a beer squeezed between his knees.
To celebrate the new mosque New Yorkers should have a pig roast at the site.
Bill Press is an easy guy to figure out. Just think of the common-sense position on any issue and he will always take the other side.
The vessel with the pestle holds the brew that is true…
or is that the flagon with the dragon?
‘Giacomo!…King of jesters and Jester to Kings!’
Re Bill Press
Melvin Udall: Where do they teach you to talk like this? In some Panama City “Sailor wanna hump-hump” bar, or is it getaway day and your last shot at his whiskey? Sell crazy someplace else, we’re all stocked up here.
“The Chalice with the Palace has the brew that is true!”
Yes, also the same distance that an aircraft landing gear and the remains of Americans torn apart can travel.
Receptionist: How do you write
womenBill Press so well?Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.
I agree wholeheartedly.
This isn’t about freedom of religion or a legal issue; it is about common sense and respect for your fellow man. For example, I have the right to use the word, “N-word” when speaking about those not of the Caucasian persuasion; but I don’t as it offends those folks. The Ground Zero Mosque is offensive to many; maybe it’s time for Progressives and Muslims to be a bit more compassionate and tolerant of others.
t-shirt slogan attempt:
GROUND ZERO MOSQUE: IT’S THEIR RIGHT, BUT IT AIN’T RIGHT!
hahahahahahahahhahahaha…(wipes teary eyes)….hahahahahahhahaha!
Good one Cogs.
Has he been around since the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
My husband and I usually agree on things, but he said it would be wrong to throw pig blood on any mosque construction going up near ground zero. I think it would be totally appropriate. Just giving some of that disrespect right back at them. We have that right under the first amendment…isn’t that correct, Obama??
Face it: while all Muslims may not be terrorists, virtually all terrorists since 1979 are Muslim. The only reason to build a mega-mosque towering over the site of the 9/11 terrorist attack by Islamo-fascists is as an historic triumphal monument over US!
bill press is a deranged leftist lunatic.
bmac727–yes, since ‘Black September’ actually. And that’s from 1972.
TOLERANCE TEST
Let’s build the mosque at Ground Zero. At the same time, let’s build a giant Jewish Synagogue next to the most sensitive Muslim site in Dearborn, MI.
Dedicate both on the same day. Then see how long it takes for either one to get vanadalized, torched or blown up.
I wouldn’t live in Dearborn, much less attend Temple there, if you paid me.
Constitutionally, they’re free to Mosque to their hearts’ content, assuming that none of the money going into the facility is tainted by jihadists.
However, you have to wonder why a group with the name “Council on American-Islamic Relations” (CAIR) would go along with something that is clearly upsetting to the American people.
The answer is that CAIR don’t care. In typical Islamic fashion, the organization is not supposed to help Muslims get along with America, but to force America to bend to the will of certain Muslims via pressure on the media and politicians.
Check out their website: “CAIR believes that Muslims worldwide must offer themselves as personal examples of the Islamic values of compassion, tolerance and moderation.” The statement is laughable and about as believable as a campaign promise or a late night ad telling you you can lose 200 pounds in 3 days.
I agree spacey, move to America’s Holy Place; Green Bay, WI; wear hunter green and gold, experience the frozen tundra.
We all know what’s going on here. Muslims always build mosques where they perceive they were triumphant over their enemies. As a Teapartier, I am offended by Bill Press’ insane ranting.
I’d rather be in Naples, FL.
You know how Wal-Mart has a Subway, or McDonalds’s along with other side businesses inside their stores? All they need to do is add a mosque and no zoning board will ever refuse them. Brilliant!
One correction: That proposed mosque IS AT GROUND ZERO. That building was hit by the fuselage of one of the airplanes that hit the trade center.
Not necessary, their supporters par-tayed in the streets on the very day the buildings fell.
Either islam promotes violence or middle easterners are violent people and use islam as an excuse for the violence. I have watched decades worth of rock throwing Palestinians followed by the various and sundry hijackings. After 9/11 there were an endless stream of muslim pundits saying that we were attacked because of our “policies” which were never spelled out or we just didn’t take the time to understand muslims. I don’t need to understand nutjobs. When have muslims in the middle east tried to understand anybody else? NEVER!!! Because they believe that they are better than anyone else and that their religion trumps all other religions. We are to bow to them. Hell will freeze over before I ever believe in a religion which treats everyone so poorly. Islam is in conflict with prosperity. We have been more than fair in dealing with them. We are not doormats to a religion run by thugs.
Bill Press sez: “…there are apartment buildings there, there’s a catholic church there, a pizza parlor there. there are hotels there. There might even be a porn shop there.” Hey Bill, most of those busineses were there before 911. And none of them had anything to do with a religion that wamts to kill Americans.
but really, who is this guy and why did anyone give him a microphone?
How about discussing the fact that the people behind this mosque, the Cordoba Initiative, effective blame us for the 9/11 attacks?
No, it’s not Islam or even “Radical Islam” that’s to blame…
no, the 9/11 attack was not the result of “religious conflicts”…
instead, this conflict is the result of “wealth inequality”…
I.e., the Cordoba Initiative says that we are to blame because we are Capitalists! If, instead, we were socialists who “spread the wealth around” (presumably to build mosques around the world), then, according to the Cordoba Initiative, these attacks would not have happened.
The World Trade Centers were arguably the most globally recognized symbols of U.S. capitalism. I believe that is the very reason they were chosen as the target of the 1993 and 2001 attacks.
And I believe that if any U.S. citizen had foreknowledge and/or participation in planning the attacks, the most likely suspect would be someone who:
1) Previously bombed the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol building
2) Has had a lifelong desire to destroy capitalism
3) Gave his children Islamic names,
4) Has pictures of Malcolm X on his office door.
Who am I talking about?
A “family friend” of Barack Hussein Obama.
And how about this other activity of the Cordoba Initiative:
The Organization of Islamic Conference has 57 states.
Remember how Obama spoke of:
I heard on the radio yesterday that there are about 800,000 Muslims in New York.
Since we assume that the vast majority of those Muslims are honest, moderate, tolerant people who came to New York to become Americans, I am looking forward to hearing these good people publicly explain to the Imam and other members of the Islamic community why building a Mosque at Ground Zero would be disrespectful.
It is almost unbelievable how blind the left is to their hypocrisy!! They preach religious tolerance toward mooslums, the religion that promotes terrorism. But religious tolerance toward Christians? Forget about it! They are trying to FORCE us to accept things totally against our religious beliefs, like gay marriage and abortion. No tolerance there to our beliefs. But to moose slums? Yeah, tolerance. This is so ridiculous it would be laughable if not so tragic.
ITookTheRedPill#66,
Thanks, that was good information. First I had seen this.
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The America-hating socialists are sissies…dhimmis.
If Christians and Jews would blow them up, cut their throats, behead them, rape their women, etc, for critcizing/insulting Christians and Jews…;
well, the sissy socialists would have a much tougher time trying to decide which side to grab their ankles for, and which side to join in piling on against the victims.
So, be fair and understanding, Happy.
As a religious building I’m guessing that it will be tax exempt? Sweet.
Bill Press is an ageing jackass and since I’ve never paid a minute’s attention to him, I frankly don’t care what he’s saying.
I keep wondering what it would take for the American people to grow a spine and a pair, if appropriate? What it would take for people to tear themselves away from reality TV and actually pay attention to the world outside that box? I thought we’d experienced that day on 9/11/01. I was so wrong.
One part of the issue that everyone is missing is the fate of St. Nicholas Church which was wiped out when the World Trade Center fell on it. The port Authority of New York has been standing in the way of the church being replaced. They, the port authority, has tried to get the church moved away from ground zero. Now, it’s they can re-build but it can’t be taller than the memorial. How can all the leftards be so for building one and not the other? Oh thats right, silly Christian, wrong prophet
Sorry, I lost my head there for a minute. Pun intended.
“It is roughly the distance away that John Daley hits his driver with a cigarette in his mouth and a beer squeezed between his knee.”
Why is Daily hitting his driver? Does he have a problem with smoking and drinking? Or was the driver driving while he was smoking and drinking?
slightly ot…
not sure if a name has been selected yet for the proposed gay bar next to the mosque…
may i suggest…
Blowhammed’s Big and Fatwa
… with a very special “Piss Be Upon You” Golden Shower V.I.P. room of course!
… I nominate “Pantaloon Pooves”
In 1997, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf established the American Sufi Muslim Association (ASMA). Today, the ASMA is known by a different name… the American Society for Muslim Advancement.
Would that be the plural of poof?
flmom said:
LOl nope its a Brit term
I don’t know if anyone has suggested this name for the gay bar next to the GZM, but how about…
I figured that. I’m an ex-Brit, but obviously my english skills are lacking, because the plural of poof in my day was poofs. You learn something every day.
Or as they like to call it in Congress, lunch break.
flmom said:
I apologize as — that was a fast one – I heard of the Poof, Poofs, Poofter and the Pooves. Not sure if that spelling was correct though.
I have no idea who Bill Press is, but I, like many Americans are sick of the stupid people. Once upon a time, patriotic Americans disagreed over policy, but now, in order to carry the jock straps of their politcal leaders, some people will defend anything. Killing Americans – oh, it’s our fault. Policing the border – hey, it’s only a few million jobs gone, and several thousand people murdered. Disagree with me and you are a Ni%%3r(yeah, they use the word in private) hating nazi, jew-loving redneck rube. Intelligent argument? They are incapable. Morals – gee didn’t they die in the sixties? Corrupt – hey, I haven’t been caught and my fellow criminals won’t condemn me anyway. Pay my mortgage – that’s for the little people, I’m in Congress..
Anyway, today’s rant. Vote the bastards out.
A name has been picked : “Dialog”
Perfect. Obama can have his next birthday party there.
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Name the new Mosque the 911 SHARIA VICTORY MOSQUE. Fifteen stories should be a good height for a small backpack nuke to get the maximum damage range. And it will allow more fallout than a ground burst would.
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Going up and coming down in flames soon–a Big Apple near you.
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John Bibb
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Really! Remember that hot bimbo wearing nothing but a thong who drove that 747 into Tower Two?
Passivity and ambivalence won’t cut it.Until moderate muslims start leading the way in opposing the militant hegemony of their co-religionists, I will continue to regard Islam as a dangerous threat to world civilization.
Press is not condemning an entire group of people for the actions of a few, but rather demonizing an entire group of people for the actions of none of them.
Well this is the lefty way. Its called propaganda.
What would that be, a garage where they build Mother of Satan bombs?
Flmom: No skills lacking!
Up here in New England, the plural of poof – today – is poofs!
Press is a useful idiot for jihad.
Remember it is the duty of every muslim to wage jihad until everyone is a muslim and there is a worldwide caliphate. You can not be a Muslim and not wage jihad. This is not some ravings of Osama Bin Laden. It is written in the Koran.
This Imam is just doing his part in the jihad. You don’t have to carry an AK-47 to wage jihad. You can do it by sending money, suing infidels, intimidating infidels, passing laws, forcing sharia law onto communities, attacking infidels in every way possible, sowing dissent and confusion among the enemy, and creating morale for the front line jihadis by building victory mosques.
He is being fooled by these people.
There are no moderate Mulims. Islam requires the destruction of all other religions. That is not moderation.
I am here to kill you unless you convert but I will be moderate about it. Uh.. thanks?
Tell that to these Muslims, fool.
From the above link. Tolerance and pluralism? They are not reading their Koran or they are lying to us. I suspect the latter.
They will tolerate other religions if you pay them a jizya infidel tax. You will not have the same rights in society. That loss of rights also includes a Muslims right to take your house, your business, or your life if it furthers the spread of Islam. Thats tolerance only if you are not paying attention. It also explains why there are few non Muslims living in Muslim countries.
Who is Bill Press?
The NY Port Authority has obviously already been dhimmified. What else could explain them blocking the rebuild of a church destroyed on 9-11-2001?
According to Amazon.com, Chapter 6 is now called “A New Vision for Muslims and the West”.
And from a 2006 version of the Cordoba Initiative web site:
Take what I quoted in comment #100,
put the two pieces together,
and you get…